Raven on Undertaker vs Roman Reigns | Wrestlemania 33
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- EXCLUSIVE: We asked Raven how he would book Undertaker and Roman Reigns at Wrestlemania 33. Obviously we now know the Undertaker lost to Reigns and essentially ended his career but it is interesting to explore other possibilities and outcomes. Raven is a man who had a short against the Undertaker back in 2000 and could have had an incredible feud with him had they crossed paths in ECW or WCW. So did WWE make the right decision by having Roman Reigns finish the Undertaker's career? Raven sat down exclusively with Title Match Wrestling over Wrestlemania 33 weekend in Orlando. This is just one clip of the full interview we conducted. Check back often to see the other parts.
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Ravan is a better booker than vince
Raven has an IQ of 140+.. Guess says it all.
He was working with Vince in 94 in the wwf.
That's like when Goldberg had that winning streak going and Kevin Nash ( one of the writers and matchmakers at WCW at the time ) decided it was a good idea that he'd be the one to end the streak. I agree with Raven...The Undertaker should have retired with an undefeated record at Wrestlemania.
Ozzie Edwards So The Undertaker's streak ended...I say big fucking deal because hindsight tells us it didn't effect his drawing power one iota. Kevin Nash was not a writer or a matchmaker when he ended Goldberg's undefeated streak. Vince Russo was the first writer in the history of the business; writers didn't exist in WCW at the time. Nash was merely an "idea man" on the booking committee which is something he had been doing unofficially for years prior. Both Nash & actual matchmaker at the time Kevin Sullivan are both on record saying WCW president Eric Bischoff made the decision to beat Goldberg. If that doesn't suffice Bischoff himself is on record claiming full responsibility for deciding Goldberg's streak should end. If Goldberg continued to squash everybody on the roster his run was over. Should the undefeated streak have lasted a little longer? Maybe, maybe not. Should Nash have been the one the end it? WCW was a political sharktank. If Nash didn't beat Goldberg, someone else would have. More than likely, Hogan. I disagree, Goldberg was hurt losing to Nash, especially in such a screwy way. If anything he regained the fans he'd lost. For those who claim Goldberg was damaged, I suggest you revisit footage in the months that followed because his crowd reactions indicate otherwise. Contrary to popular belief the facts i.e. numbers prove business trended upwards after Goldberg got beat. EVERYTHING I've just said, I've PROVED with substantiated evidence in videos I've made on my RUclips channels e.g. see my "Kevin Nash DID NOT book himself to end Goldberg's streak" video. “No one on the roster had more believability than Nash to defeat Goldberg, so I wouldn’t change that. This wasn’t a tough decision. We had run out of rope creatively. We couldn’t sustain Goldberg as a babyface champion who could never get beat. I wouldn’t change the controversial finish.” - Eric Bischoff (Sports Illustrated - 12/7/16)
Ozzie Edwards cena has always sucked tho so I'm glad for Roman people who hate him are salty Daniel Bryan fans
nWoWolfpacTV2016 Like I really needed a drawn out explanation. Sometimes I feel you just comment for the sake of arguing.
nWoWolfpacTV2016 It dissapeared because all you do is rant about a bunch of nonsense. Until you decide to GROW THE FUCK UP your comments will continue to disappear. Don't flatter yourself.
+Ozzie Edwards, Nope, not undefeated, but just retire with 1 loss. The tradition when you retire is to lose your final match as a passing of the torch. He should've retired after his 1st Wrestlemania loss to Lesnar then, in theory.
"Allowed something to be bigger the wrestling" I love that comment, Raven really gets the theatre of the business.
For 7 million dollars I'm sure Undertaker didn't have a problem putting over Roman Reigns.
if taker didn't want to lose they wont let him lose
@@imtheabsolute1161 Was $7 million seriously Taker’s pay for Wrestlemania 33?? Shit, just give me a quarter of that and I’ll come in and put over the whole roster 😂
I agree --- Streak should've never ended. I will always standby that Undertaker should've rode off into the sunset after WM28. A great showing in the HIAC with two of his greatest rivalries, and an even 20-0. That's a milestone. Sorry for all the Punk lovers out there, but 21-0 meant nothing.
They should have had Sting face Taker at Wrestlemania and make it the last match for both of them. It would have been cool if Sting was the first person to beat the streak but we all know Vince would never do that
ZachAttack84 cena has always sucked tho so I'm glad for Roman people who hate him are salty Daniel Bryan fans
ZachAttack84 would have been a cool match but Vince would have never went for that. sting being wcw strong for so many years. and that waiting to go to the WWE. Vince took that personally. Vince would not put over any WCW guys
ZachAttack84 If not Sting then it should've been Cena with the streak still intact
@HappyPants1988 wouldnt make sense since cena is taking a long break plus he is part time . imo when they ended the streak 2 years ago that would have been the time to make roman the guy to do it. but than again wwe had to run with brock since he was money for ufc before his drug failure. i feel like retiring 20 whatever and 2 kind of takes the shock away. i feel like 21-1 would have been the best send off had it been roman at that time
No one should have ever beat the Streak
I definitely agree with Raven, it could've went down a much different way but people love fucking up a good thing. Pro wrestling isn't a sport because of predictability, writers abd character's but it still deserves streaks, records and once in a lifetime legends like any other sport.
WWE = We Waste Everything
Raven's right on the money with this one. 'Taker's been THE foundation of the WWE roster for damn near thirty years. John Cena: 16 WWE title reigns. HHH: 14 title reigns. Randy Orton: 13. Even EDGE held the WWE or World Heavyweight Championship 11 times.Undertaker? SEVEN.The Streak was The Phenom's legacy. Having him drop The Streak to a part-timer who came back to WWE with so little in-ring talent he made fans stop complainong about Cena's "Five Moves of Doom" was simply idiotic. Now they've had him lose to Reigns at WM, and what have they done with it? Turned right around and had Reigns job to Strowman.WWE Creative are some of the biggest morons on the planet.
Definitely. They don't have a damn clue
Mans right
He knows his stuff
RAVEN IS SMART GUY !!!
Love ravens and his insight on the business he was very underrated
Thankyoutaker
We all wanted him undefeated we all wanted him to face sting I guess we should just be happy when we were all little kids he would scare us on his walkout alone and as grown ups we were able to see him ride off into the sunset fairly healthy and with no clouded reputation taker is the man we all tip our hats to you sir!
I couldn't AGREE MORE with Scott Levy here....!!! This is something that Mark will most likely come to regret down the line for sure. Damn shame they had him end it this way and to a guy like Roman Reigns of all wrestlers.
In a perfect world, Kane should've beat and retired the undertaker. Then they could've used him once a year as the new unstoppable. But as we all know, they destroyed kanes character during his run as the tag team champions and the hugging bullshit. Ruined. Such a travesty.
they fucked up Kane when he started speaking.
I agree with him totally
I agree with Raven and liken it to this. WWE ended up with an ocean with Undertaker's streak. They then drained it to make a Lake of Lesnar. Then they squeezed out what they could into a kid sized swimming pool for Roman Reigns and couldn't even fill that. They would've gotten more out promoting the strea, even after he retired, and reliving it on the Network than they have giving the rub to Lesnar, who didn't need it as a legit UFC champ and Reigns who just doesn't have "it".
If he'd never lost to Brock and only did to Roman I'd be happier about. 24-1 would have been acceptable to me at the very least but 23-2? Nah
I agree 100 percent
Raven come kick ass in WWE
It's nice he views The Undertaker in that light. Very nice to see
I always thought it would be kind of cool for Undertaker to break out the long purple glove's and purple boot cover's 1 last time.
I did too, but I knew he wouldn't do it.
i agree
The undertaker is and always will be the greatest attraction in professional wrestling. Streak or no streak, he is the greatest of all time, so it doesn't matter if he has 2 losses at wrestlemania.
pure genuis no question.
Here I thought Colin Delaney would be the one to beat the undertaker at wrestlemania.
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just goes to show Takers willingness to give, right or wrong..
They never should have had it end. The only thing in American wrestling that was worth a damn given away, and will never happen again.
Undertaker got screwed
Yeah
Is one of Raven's eyes bigger than the other due to a past injury or botch?
what about raven?
I don't mind Taker losing at WM at all. Father time catches up to everyone. Lets be honest, no matter how great Jordan was, he was not beating Lebron once Lebron showed up. Its just the cycle of sports
Jaret Wood But LeBron never faced jordan, mj retired long after lebron set foot in the nba, so I don't know how one can say mj couldn't beat LeBron.
Charles Crump no it was he would never tap m8
Ok this isn't about reigns beating Undertaker...it's about the streak itself...which was Brock Lesnar. And I agree it should have never been beaten, it would have meant more. But Taker is done, retired. The whole leaving all his gear and entrance clothes in the ring and sinking into the stage was his final goodbye.
He's retired as an in-ring performer but I don't think we've seen the last of the character. If guys like Austin, Rocky, and Michaels can make special appearances in attempt to spike ratings, Undertaker sure as hell can, too.
His last match and only loss should have been to Brae Wyatt, as the new face of fear passing the torch. Match with Roman rains out of nowhere did nothing and was super disappointing
Catmandu42 Bray Wyatt is trash and Taker would never put that bum over
What about me what about raven! Why is this wash away criticizing every wrestler in the industry
It's simply that WWE is the McDonald's of wrestling and they beat out wimpys and Wendy's and burger king and all the competition long ago. The biggest mistake AEW can make now, is pandering too much to the fans by becoming Subway.
I think UnderTaker should come out as his new character called Trisha and claim that he was actually Trisha during all of his Mania matches except for Lesnar and Reigns. That way the streak stays intact and we can see someone else end Trisha's streak.
Maldini88 Trisha...what the hell
Maldini88 wtf man u smoking again
why not?? they've already refuted known documented facts with the kurt angle "my black son" fiasco.....
Always though you're supposed to go out putting new\young talent over. Makes me wanna see Brock vs Roman now. All the build up for the two top guys who beat Taker now face off at the next Mania. Sounds like a Mania headliner to me.
Sounds boring as shit to me. But if you're a fan of modern WWE, then you'll probably like it.
rockbass cena has always sucked tho so I'm glad for Roman people who hate him are salty Daniel Bryan fans
The Undertaker streak was becoming boring as shit. The apathy during Brock vs. Taker at WM 30 was very apparent & in my opinion It was because fans had been conditioned to believe the outcome of Taker matches at WM were a forgone conclusion. If Brock vs. Reigns I is anything like Brock vs. Reigns 2 it will be fucking awesome.
we suffered through Lesnar vs reigns once and the only saving grace was Seth Rollins cashing in mitb that night. I'd hate to see Lesnar vs reigns at WM again.
King Possum Quite frankly, I think you're a moron for dissing the match. Seth Rollins ruined it because he turned something that suspended your disbelief was real into fake bullshit pro wrestling. Brock Lesnar vs. Roman Reigns at WM 31 was everything I've been searching for since Scott Steiner vs. Bill Goldberg - the amateur wrestler vs. pro footballer. Two alpha male badasses, two legitimate HEAVYWEIGHTS, two legitimate athletes, two prize fighters...colliding in a believable, super stiff, slobberknocker with a BIG fight feel & making me suspend my disbelief in the process. Reigns selling was beautifully sympathetic, his hard hitting hope spots were exquisitely violent & the colour (blood) added to the drama of the match. It was an awe-inspiring, Battle of the Titans, spectacle between two badass characters with captivating presence. Undoubtedly The Beast Incarnate vs. The Big Dog was my 2015's match of the year. I can't wait for Lesnar vs. Reigns II & the cosmetically pleasing poster that will go along with it.
He doesn't mention Roman once... Click bait much
Deathtone So what other Wrestlemania 33 match involving the Undertaker would he be referring to? Come on man.
Deathtone boy you a bonafied moron
Perry Saturn should of retired taker