With an updated Rubbertoe Replica's V2 out on the market, it's time to see how it stacks up vs the winner of the previous Sonic Showdown, the Celestial Toystore.
I purchased a CT in October off the CT site. It arrived three weeks ago (I got sonic 362). Now, I can’t speak for the quality of the original ones compared to the newer ones, but in all honesty I think my sonic came out great. When polished it looks sleek, and everything seems in order. The flick is phenomenal and there’s no funky pieces or anything of the sort. I’m glad I got it. I understand some have complained about a decrease in quality, so for all I know I just got lucky. Furthermore, when emailing CT about anything, I always made sure I was very cordial and understanding. He replied fast with short responses but seemed friendly nonetheless. The only complaint I have, and this is a small one, is that the red emitter included as a bonus wasn’t filed/sanded/shaved down fully, so when screwed on and extended, two of the claws sometimes get caught on the bottom resin. Sorry for the long comment, I just wanted to provide a bit of info to anyone curious and was thinking of getting a CT. Again, it’s possible I just got lucky.
just a small correction - the pommel and collar ARE actually screen accurate, but to the later version of the sonic that has been used by 12th Doctor. Nick actually revamped and upgraded his initial design for series 8-9 - mostly to make it stronger and less finicky. You can see the 1st gen and 2gen prop pictures side by side on his website where he talks about the history of the prop. So to sum it up, the v2 is kinda the best of both words - the stronger design from later seasons plus the button from the gen 1. I personally prefer the look of the collar from the gen1 but Nick probably had his reason to update the design for the prop to be more sturdier.
Hey! Sorry I somehow missed the notification for this comment when it posted, or I’d have responded sooner. Before doing this review, I spoke to Nick and he told me that this version was based on the original four filming props, so that’s the metric I used for this breakdown. But taking the later revisions into account actually makes this even more confusing… because apparently this has a hinged pommel, as used by 11, but with the dimensions of the hinge-less pommel of the 12? I think the scores would remain unchanged, honestly. But thanks so much for the extra context and please don’t hesitate to let me know if I make any factual errors in the future!
The interesting thing with the CT at least with mine, sometimes the latency wasn't instant. I am now expecting my V2 Rubbertoe so this has me very excited. My 11 costumes are painstakingly screen accurate. So I can't wait for mine to show up. Fantastic video mate subbed!
There’s a weird thing with the CT where the micro switch can be finicky if you have the pommel too tight. Try loosening it EVER so slightly and see if that helps it. If you still have it, that os. I noticed you used the past tense so perhaps you’ve sold it off. It took me until I was making this video to discover that tip, so apologies if I’m too late!
@@PropsmithReplicas oh it's no worries unfortunately I did have to sell it due to desperate times. But I'm am really excited to get a V2 Rubber toe. I may consider getting another CT 🙂
Somehow I feel like you've come a long way. I'm so glad your conclusion has come to this. Nicks come a long way. Either way kudos to you and thank you for doing this video. Cheers mate ❤️
No, I couldn’t get my hands on an MFX and now there are SO MANY varieties of the 9/10 available that the video would be 2 hours long and probably obsolete the moment it came out.
recently started getting into the whole replica/cosplay scene and was wondering if you knew how often rubbertoe does runs of their 11th sonic? I know CT is done making new ones and is just selling leftover stock now (which i've heard has severely dropped in quality), so I was trying to see how often rubbertoe does runs of past props.
Rubbertoe JUST put another batch on sale a couple months back, but to my knowledge all units have been purchased and he said on his Instagram that this will be the final run, of the model he’s replicating at least. I actually happened to be one of the people who managed to purchase the replica in time. So unfortunately, you might be out of luck when it comes to Rubbertoe. There are some 11th Doctor Universal Remotes being sold online which are said to be surprisingly SUPER good replicas even if it wasn’t intended to be one, though be weary that they’re fairly expensive, and sadly don’t flick open. If you’re left with absolutely NO choice, and wouldn’t dare resorting to the ugly Character Options toy unless you’re on a strict budget, Celestial Toystore sonic screwdrivers still make the cut even if they aren’t as illustrious as they once were. I purchased and received one earlier this year, and while it definitely had some issues I was still happy with it. It was still fun to “sonic” things and flick it open. But with that said, PLEASE handle it with care. Mine recently broke during transit on an airplane ride since I didn’t secure it properly enough I guess, and further more when I tried inspecting the issue. So be sure to handle it with ample care. Unless Rubbertoe decides to do another run of his screwdrivers, CT is likely the only option if you want something legit. You might have to sacrifice a marginal amount of quality but keep your expectations tempered and you should be content with the final product.
@@PropsmithReplicas Another great match up of these 2 lovely replicas! After getting a battery for the sonic and adjusting the tightness a bit I'm 1,000% satisfied with the sonic, couldn't be happier
I ordered a CT sonic one week ago. I’ve heard differing opinions on the recent productions, with some saying they’ve lessened in quality and others saying they’re just as good. Regardless, I’m excited to see how it holds up when it ships (which could take awhile given the the shipping from China to eastern US)
@@nextofkin2321 hi, I got it back in the middle/beginning of February. So far it’s good. It looks amazing when polished, and the flick on the sonic I got is pretty good. Sometimes it gets a little tight and finicky but I think the Cape Cod polish I use lubricates it to flick better. The only complaint I have is that the red emitter that came with it isn’t fully sanded down on the bottom, so it screws on a little wonky but it still works I suppose.
Hi I was wondering if there was any chance I could buy your CT Sonic, or if you don't want to sell it, could you point me in the direction of someone I can buy one off, because I really can't buy one anywhere. Certainly not for less than £200. I live in the UK if that helps.
@@PropsmithReplicas oh that's odd in the care letter that came with my 2nd edition 11th rubbertoe it said to use the E11A battery, that's also what mine came with a GP high voltage E11A battery. I switched it out for the Energizer one as its every so slightly smaller so dosnt have to much of a tight fit.
@@a_watch_enthusiast2149 Interesting... my letter also says "11A/MN11" but it came with 3 LR754s. Since he gets his sound chips from CO, they may have moved to a different chip design for the 13... so if Nick needed to get a new batch in, they might not have had the ones he was using previously. That's just a guess, but I'll certainly ask him about it.
I think CT still wins the price battle, as in the original video and I really just wanted to focus on what the major shortcomings were of the original Rubbertoe to see how the new one stacks up.
It seems CT's stopped making replicas a while back. I don't know him, but I wish him the best. Wish I was astute enough to get the Master's signet ring when he made them, as it's the last bit of the Master's outfit I don't have (aside from the overcoat with red lining, which Louise Page put together herself). I do very much want to get Rubbertoe's Laser Screwdriver though. Given how good his 11th Sonics became, I'm sure that the LS too will be excellent.
CT has retired from the sonic game, yes. He has turned over operations to someone else in order to offload the remaining stock, but the quality is reported to have dropped off dramatically. I haven’t spoken to him in a few years at this point.
@@mfsmarineop693 Couple things: 1) I highly doubt it will be shipping soon. Last reports I heard, people were waiting close to a year to receive their sonics. 2) I can't speak directly to the quality of the newer ones as I have not seen one myself, I only know what I've heard (and I have seen at least one person who recently got one say that theirs was great). 3) It's not like there's another option right now. If you can't find an early CT or a late Rubbertoe on the secondary market, then ordering one of the new and potentially not-perfect CT's is your only option, currently. 4) Many people that got the early Rubbertoes that were chock-full of issues still really loved them, so even if your CT has issues, it'll still probably be pretty great. 5) Lastly, if your CT ends up being on the really bad end (coming apart, non-working electronics, seizing flick, etc), there are people who will fix and/or upgrade it for you for a nominal fee. Check Facebook and Reddit for recommendations. You'll be fine.
@@PropsmithReplicas I had a grand time ordering from the CT site. Waited six months with no developments, spoke to CT through a friend of mine, but one time I tried to get a message through, it was at a bad time for him and CT canceled my order (with a refund thankfully) at least then he contacted me directly and apologized for the inconvenience. While I'm glad CT himself refunded me, I'm in no rush to try it again.
I wonder how difficult (if possible at all) it would be to essentially take the accurate bits from both Sonics to create the ultimate replica. i.e. the top of the Rubbertoe, the angled collar of the CT, the Rubbertoe leather and white handles, and the CT pommel. Probably not worth potentially damaging two rare items.
The only parts you’d be able to swap between the two would really be the black leather section and the white handle. The pommel, in particular, is made completely differently on the two. The CT is male, with the body of the sonic as the female, and it’s opposite on the Rubbertoe. For me, I’d be happiest with the Rubbertoe for most of the sonic, replacing only the pommel with the CT.
I bought a 10th doctor screwdriver from CT... the end kind of broke with the slider... he had me ship it to him and list it as a 25 dollar toy flashlight. I sent it off... it vanished during shipping... he told me it happens sometimes and not to worry about it, never made it to destination, he stopped responding to me, and I'm pretty sure i paid close to 300 for it. So... I ended up with nothing.
That’s tragic. I’m so sorry you’ve had to deal with that. The issue with his being based in China to avoid copyright claims also means he’s pretty untouchable from this perspective. The only advice I can offer is, if you paid with a credit card, try to do a chargeback. Unfortunately, if you paid with debit, that’s probably not possible. And, in the future, don’t listen to people who tell you to ship things with a low declared value. What they’re doing is asking you to risk the loss of your item so that they can avoid paying much of an import fee. And I can tell you for certain: CT is fucking LOADED. He can afford the import duty in order to fix his own faulty product.
I purchased a CT in October off the CT site. It arrived three weeks ago (I got sonic 362). Now, I can’t speak for the quality of the original ones compared to the newer ones, but in all honesty I think my sonic came out great. When polished it looks sleek, and everything seems in order. The flick is phenomenal and there’s no funky pieces or anything of the sort. I’m glad I got it. I understand some have complained about a decrease in quality, so for all I know I just got lucky. Furthermore, when emailing CT about anything, I always made sure I was very cordial and understanding. He replied fast with short responses but seemed friendly nonetheless.
The only complaint I have, and this is a small one, is that the red emitter included as a bonus wasn’t filed/sanded/shaved down fully, so when screwed on and extended, two of the claws sometimes get caught on the bottom resin.
Sorry for the long comment, I just wanted to provide a bit of info to anyone curious and was thinking of getting a CT. Again, it’s possible I just got lucky.
What is his email? Thinking of buying a ct aswell, glad yours was made well and sturdy
just a small correction - the pommel and collar ARE actually screen accurate, but to the later version of the sonic that has been used by 12th Doctor. Nick actually revamped and upgraded his initial design for series 8-9 - mostly to make it stronger and less finicky. You can see the 1st gen and 2gen prop pictures side by side on his website where he talks about the history of the prop. So to sum it up, the v2 is kinda the best of both words - the stronger design from later seasons plus the button from the gen 1. I personally prefer the look of the collar from the gen1 but Nick probably had his reason to update the design for the prop to be more sturdier.
Hey! Sorry I somehow missed the notification for this comment when it posted, or I’d have responded sooner. Before doing this review, I spoke to Nick and he told me that this version was based on the original four filming props, so that’s the metric I used for this breakdown. But taking the later revisions into account actually makes this even more confusing… because apparently this has a hinged pommel, as used by 11, but with the dimensions of the hinge-less pommel of the 12? I think the scores would remain unchanged, honestly. But thanks so much for the extra context and please don’t hesitate to let me know if I make any factual errors in the future!
The interesting thing with the CT at least with mine, sometimes the latency wasn't instant. I am now expecting my V2 Rubbertoe so this has me very excited. My 11 costumes are painstakingly screen accurate. So I can't wait for mine to show up. Fantastic video mate subbed!
There’s a weird thing with the CT where the micro switch can be finicky if you have the pommel too tight. Try loosening it EVER so slightly and see if that helps it. If you still have it, that os. I noticed you used the past tense so perhaps you’ve sold it off. It took me until I was making this video to discover that tip, so apologies if I’m too late!
@@PropsmithReplicas oh it's no worries unfortunately I did have to sell it due to desperate times. But I'm am really excited to get a V2 Rubber toe. I may consider getting another CT 🙂
Somehow I feel like you've come a long way. I'm so glad your conclusion has come to this. Nicks come a long way. Either way kudos to you and thank you for doing this video. Cheers mate ❤️
Did you ever get around to the 10th Doctor's sonic in the end? I saw that you were originally planning to.
No, I couldn’t get my hands on an MFX and now there are SO MANY varieties of the 9/10 available that the video would be 2 hours long and probably obsolete the moment it came out.
Love these videos! ...would you consider doing a review of the Rubbertoe classic sonics?
recently started getting into the whole replica/cosplay scene and was wondering if you knew how often rubbertoe does runs of their 11th sonic? I know CT is done making new ones and is just selling leftover stock now (which i've heard has severely dropped in quality), so I was trying to see how often rubbertoe does runs of past props.
Rubbertoe JUST put another batch on sale a couple months back, but to my knowledge all units have been purchased and he said on his Instagram that this will be the final run, of the model he’s replicating at least. I actually happened to be one of the people who managed to purchase the replica in time. So unfortunately, you might be out of luck when it comes to Rubbertoe. There are some 11th Doctor Universal Remotes being sold online which are said to be surprisingly SUPER good replicas even if it wasn’t intended to be one, though be weary that they’re fairly expensive, and sadly don’t flick open.
If you’re left with absolutely NO choice, and wouldn’t dare resorting to the ugly Character Options toy unless you’re on a strict budget, Celestial Toystore sonic screwdrivers still make the cut even if they aren’t as illustrious as they once were. I purchased and received one earlier this year, and while it definitely had some issues I was still happy with it. It was still fun to “sonic” things and flick it open. But with that said, PLEASE handle it with care. Mine recently broke during transit on an airplane ride since I didn’t secure it properly enough I guess, and further more when I tried inspecting the issue. So be sure to handle it with ample care.
Unless Rubbertoe decides to do another run of his screwdrivers, CT is likely the only option if you want something legit. You might have to sacrifice a marginal amount of quality but keep your expectations tempered and you should be content with the final product.
Ah, fancy seeing you here! (One of the old group.) Nice comparison.
Yooo just received my CT 11th, soooo psyched to watch this right after
Lemme know what you think! (of the sonic AND the video)
@@PropsmithReplicas Another great match up of these 2 lovely replicas! After getting a battery for the sonic and adjusting the tightness a bit I'm 1,000% satisfied with the sonic, couldn't be happier
How long did it take to arrive after ordering? I just bought one yesterday
@@tomwilson1487 I will say it took a few months, it was concerning at times waiting for updates, you'll have to get in touch first most likely
@@lordreiman8352 I’ve emailed them a few times in the past months regarding payment but no replies what so ever. How did you get in contact with them?
I ordered a CT sonic one week ago. I’ve heard differing opinions on the recent productions, with some saying they’ve lessened in quality and others saying they’re just as good. Regardless, I’m excited to see how it holds up when it ships (which could take awhile given the the shipping from China to eastern US)
Could you tell me how good it's quality is?
You got it yet?
@@nextofkin2321 hi, I got it back in the middle/beginning of February. So far it’s good. It looks amazing when polished, and the flick on the sonic I got is pretty good. Sometimes it gets a little tight and finicky but I think the Cape Cod polish I use lubricates it to flick better. The only complaint I have is that the red emitter that came with it isn’t fully sanded down on the bottom, so it screws on a little wonky but it still works I suppose.
Hi I was wondering if there was any chance I could buy your CT Sonic, or if you don't want to sell it, could you point me in the direction of someone I can buy one off, because I really can't buy one anywhere. Certainly not for less than £200. I live in the UK if that helps.
You use button cell batteries in your rubbertoe, how comes?
I use 1 Energizer E11A battery.
That's... what it uses. I didn't make it! (The batteries came with it, also).
@@PropsmithReplicas oh that's odd in the care letter that came with my 2nd edition 11th rubbertoe it said to use the E11A battery, that's also what mine came with a GP high voltage E11A battery. I switched it out for the Energizer one as its every so slightly smaller so dosnt have to much of a tight fit.
@@a_watch_enthusiast2149 Interesting... my letter also says "11A/MN11" but it came with 3 LR754s. Since he gets his sound chips from CO, they may have moved to a different chip design for the 13... so if Nick needed to get a new batch in, they might not have had the ones he was using previously. That's just a guess, but I'll certainly ask him about it.
hearing both sonics being flipped out at the same time is heavenly
It doesn’t suck!
Im hoping to order a 11th ct sonic this week just worried about it having postige to pay
what edition number do you have
I don't know if it's just me, but the video is just black between 4:25-4:40
No it’s not just you, I have the exact same problem
I have no idea how this happened, I’m afraid. Sorry about that.
Why not factor in price?
I think CT still wins the price battle, as in the original video and I really just wanted to focus on what the major shortcomings were of the original Rubbertoe to see how the new one stacks up.
on one of your previous videos you insulted people for wanting to de-construct their sonics, but you do it yourself?
I have no recollection of that. Can you point me to the comment you refer to?
Do you know if rubbertoe will be making more runs of this sonic
He told me he MIGHT do one more run of 50 Sonics. If it happens, I couldn't begin to guess as to when.
Happening now! I just ordered today.
@@jmun9987 Yes me too! So excited!
@@KiwiBunnii Awesome! I've been rewatching this video multiple times lol
@@PropsmithReplicas update, I now own a CT and a rubbertoe is on the way lol😅
It seems CT's stopped making replicas a while back. I don't know him, but I wish him the best. Wish I was astute enough to get the Master's signet ring when he made them, as it's the last bit of the Master's outfit I don't have (aside from the overcoat with red lining, which Louise Page put together herself).
I do very much want to get Rubbertoe's Laser Screwdriver though. Given how good his 11th Sonics became, I'm sure that the LS too will be excellent.
CT has retired from the sonic game, yes. He has turned over operations to someone else in order to offload the remaining stock, but the quality is reported to have dropped off dramatically. I haven’t spoken to him in a few years at this point.
I ordered my CT screwdriver 3 weeks ago. It will be shipping soon so I have to ask… did I make a mistake?
@@mfsmarineop693 Couple things:
1) I highly doubt it will be shipping soon. Last reports I heard, people were waiting close to a year to receive their sonics.
2) I can't speak directly to the quality of the newer ones as I have not seen one myself, I only know what I've heard (and I have seen at least one person who recently got one say that theirs was great).
3) It's not like there's another option right now. If you can't find an early CT or a late Rubbertoe on the secondary market, then ordering one of the new and potentially not-perfect CT's is your only option, currently.
4) Many people that got the early Rubbertoes that were chock-full of issues still really loved them, so even if your CT has issues, it'll still probably be pretty great.
5) Lastly, if your CT ends up being on the really bad end (coming apart, non-working electronics, seizing flick, etc), there are people who will fix and/or upgrade it for you for a nominal fee. Check Facebook and Reddit for recommendations. You'll be fine.
@@PropsmithReplicas I doubt I will have problems with it, I just want to be sure I am cautious moving forward. Thank you for the recommendations.
@@PropsmithReplicas I had a grand time ordering from the CT site. Waited six months with no developments, spoke to CT through a friend of mine, but one time I tried to get a message through, it was at a bad time for him and CT canceled my order (with a refund thankfully) at least then he contacted me directly and apologized for the inconvenience. While I'm glad CT himself refunded me, I'm in no rush to try it again.
I wonder how difficult (if possible at all) it would be to essentially take the accurate bits from both Sonics to create the ultimate replica.
i.e. the top of the Rubbertoe, the angled collar of the CT, the Rubbertoe leather and white handles, and the CT pommel.
Probably not worth potentially damaging two rare items.
The only parts you’d be able to swap between the two would really be the black leather section and the white handle. The pommel, in particular, is made completely differently on the two. The CT is male, with the body of the sonic as the female, and it’s opposite on the Rubbertoe. For me, I’d be happiest with the Rubbertoe for most of the sonic, replacing only the pommel with the CT.
I bought a 10th doctor screwdriver from CT... the end kind of broke with the slider... he had me ship it to him and list it as a 25 dollar toy flashlight. I sent it off... it vanished during shipping... he told me it happens sometimes and not to worry about it, never made it to destination, he stopped responding to me, and I'm pretty sure i paid close to 300 for it. So... I ended up with nothing.
That’s tragic. I’m so sorry you’ve had to deal with that. The issue with his being based in China to avoid copyright claims also means he’s pretty untouchable from this perspective. The only advice I can offer is, if you paid with a credit card, try to do a chargeback. Unfortunately, if you paid with debit, that’s probably not possible. And, in the future, don’t listen to people who tell you to ship things with a low declared value. What they’re doing is asking you to risk the loss of your item so that they can avoid paying much of an import fee. And I can tell you for certain: CT is fucking LOADED. He can afford the import duty in order to fix his own faulty product.
@@PropsmithReplicas it was a long time ago
@@KYPT0KNIGHT Shame.
Get that review out ASAP 😂
Nice:)