Shining Force 2: The Musical timestamps. 00:21:20 Overture: We are the Shining Force 1:09:51 Shanking Old Ladies in the Woods 2:57:00 The Grinding Song (Pete's A Bird) 4:36:17 I Am So Evil - Zeon's Song 5:48:56 Arby's Vs Zeon, The Final Trainwreck 6:09:08 Finale: We Are the Shining Force - Reprise
One of my all time favorite games. Parents bought me this game for Christmas back in the nineties, fell in love with it. Love what you guys do! Greats foundation you are supporting!
This is an amazing game. So much fun and genuinely difficult. The story is so interesting too! Things like the Kraken fight, being shrunk and fighting the chess army, and oddler betraying you are all so interesting and fun! What a gem!!!!
Finding streams like this of the shining force games makes me so happy ❤️ growing up playing these games so much, and happy to see there’s a community of others like myself who have continued to enjoy the game over the years!
That bit at 2:32:11 almost broke me as a kid. I could not figure out what to do with the tree for so long. From memory I think you also have to approach it from below before you can activate it? Whatever the issue was, I only hired the game and I desperately wanted to finish it, and I was going nuts because I couldn't proceed. I still remember the joy felt when I randomly figured it out.
god i got stuck too for ages, managed to figure out the Pressing A to SEARCH instead of C which is 'USE/talk'part but i legit reset the game and started over coz of it , i was so satisfied when it worked coz i knew it did, but this was kinda pre internet so i couldn't find out.
Never played this one but I noticed that they talked about the wolfman character in this game as the complete opposite of Zylo. When Zylo joins in SF1 he's one of the strongest on your roster, and his terrain bonus works really well with the upcoming battles.
I was searching for my next RPG game to play - had some good contenders but nothing that really hooked me. Saw this and now I know - Shining Force II, for sure.
Love what you guys do, and SF2 is one of my all time favorite games! I unfortunately found out that this con was happening a week after it ended. I am from SLC and would have loved to come out to support you guys!
That bridge fight with the worms is pretty similar to the laser eye fight from shining force 1. Not in the sense of the laser eye (the prism flowers are the real laser eye fight) but in the sense of where the battle is located in the world map and how you fight in that battle. I like the little similarities between the games
Rather than equipping and un-equipping the power ring all the time, is it worth grinding Peter up a few more levels in the Fairy Woods before promotion? I would love to know the time differences for an extra two levels versus the equipment management.
5:22:00-5:22:08 There's another difference between the red baron and the other barons. The red baron can autorevive after battle, just like Peter, because Lemon is apparently some kind of vampire (some npc mentions that). You can see it between 5:42:04-5:42:56 when Lemon gets killed in battle, isn't revived after egressing but is fine when the party reenters the battle. And they actually mention it it in 5:47:10 so now I'm confused. If you know that, isn't it obvious why they gave him a different class?
My theory.....is that they needed Lemon to auto-revive (almost PHNX like, even), so that ... just in case you had Lemon in the party at the last battle against Zeon (or whenever), and you CHOSE to not revive LEMON at the Church....then....who would make the heroic sacrifice to take Zeon/King Galam away...? I mean...maybe it would have been cooler if Bowie "pulled a Max" (who actually some fans have theorized him to be perhaps a Great Uncle or some slightly distant relative to Bowie....I think the Shining Force Wikia / Moogie says this...). ? Having beaten SF:LGI when I was 7, and beaten SF II when I was 9, that would have left even a greater impression on me than the first one did..idk? What do you guys think? It would surely be cool....in any case.... :D
This game whooped my ass after a kid. Took me a long time to figure out where to go after killing the Kraken. Then another long time to get past Odd-Eye.
kiwi is amazing in the long run. sure he's weak in his first form the turtle but as soon as you promote him he becomes a tank that can go though enemies i got kiwi up to level 15 promoted and he solod the final boss
Not really. Early on, he has insane defence, but low HP. His defence remains high, but other characters eventually catch up whereas Kiwi's HP remains abysmally low.
LoD speedruns do exist, but they are painfully long, ~12 hours for a likely marathon estimate (WR is 10h53m). I believe it has been offered and seriously considered, but finding room to fit such a long speedrun when it isn't immensely popular (i.e. an FF or DQ game) is difficult, but there is always a chance it will be in someday
Makes sense lol. I once got everyone to lvl 30 then promoted them by grinding in that forest. Everyone becomes a beast by doing that I'd say. But for speed runs this was cool
Any version of the game allows this. It's a sort of 'New Game Plus' feature, when you have a file that is marked as completed on the game, hold start when naming Bowie, and the options for the others appear.
Again, great video guys....I have heard of NAMI before and did not know that ...idk...you support NAMI with your videos? Or how do that work? Really interested and wonder if I can help out or do something similar/different on my own....I am a BIG RPG / SEGA fan. Shining Force: Legacy of the Great Intention was actually my first RPG I remember playing...and LIKING! Feel free to contact me (I am also on FB/Twitter/Email)
I just have 2 questions...1st how do you know which item does what, I never have been able to find where to read it, 2nd how did you rename all the characters???
RAZORlukic As far as renaming all the characters, can't it be done by inserting the "secret code" while the Sega logo is scrolling across the screen? I know Shining Force Central and other sites tell how to do this......I know I've done it, but only on an actual SEGA cartridge, not a ROM....
You could literally place Bowie in front of Sarah on battle 2 and heal him taking one hit, heal, rinse and repeat to level 40. Wait for elven village for her promotion item. Super OP broken Sarah.
Rules are rules. It may seem dickish but it does maintain some order to it. And also they usually DO have "end of event" prizes where the donation from start to end of event does stack. But they can't do that for all of them cause that'd be a unrealistic amount of time the Volunteers would have to sink in just to try and keep track of them all. This isn't gdq where they only take $5 or more. RPGLB is great because if you literally only have $1 to donate they will still take it happily for the great cause they support
Favorite games from Sega, SNES, Gameboy, N64, PS1: Sega - Shining Force II, Contra Hard Corps Super Nintendo - Final Fantasy 3, Killer Instinct, Rock 'N Roll Racing, The Legend of Zelda, Super Mario World, Mega Man... 5? Chrono Trigger, wow there's a lot on snes, Secret of Evermore, Demons Crest Gameboy Color - Poke'mon Red, Final Fantasy Adventure Nintendo 64 - Zelda 64, 007, Super Smash Brothers, Battle Tanks Playstation 1 - Final Fantasy 7, Parasite Eve, Vagrant Story, Ehrgeiz Let me know if I missed any legendary games!
Interesting that you love FF Adventure on the GameBoy, I actually ran that at this event as well, a little later in the week. Have a look, I hope you like it :)
Woah man...maybe he was thinking Mega Man 7? idk...lol. And he was probably ... generalizing about the actual title for the SNES for the Zelda game (basically Zelda 3/Link to the Past)....
Hey Jason: This would be my incomplete SEGA Genesis list: SEGA--Shining Force I & II; Phantasy Star IV, Sonic 2, 3, & Knuckles, Streets of Rage 2 & 3, Super Street Fighter II, X-Men 1 & 2 (Clone Wars), Shinobi III, General Chaos, Light Crusader, Warrior of Rome II (fantastic underrated game, once you figure out the controls), & .... COMIX ZONE! ...there are others, but this is all i could remember at the time (some of which are probably on the Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection..)
Run Start: 11:58
Shining Force 2: The Musical timestamps.
00:21:20 Overture: We are the Shining Force
1:09:51 Shanking Old Ladies in the Woods
2:57:00 The Grinding Song (Pete's A Bird)
4:36:17 I Am So Evil - Zeon's Song
5:48:56 Arby's Vs Zeon, The Final Trainwreck
6:09:08 Finale: We Are the Shining Force - Reprise
That was dorkily creative. They should be off Broadway writing songs/dance number routines.
I don't even
Bwahaha! I expected that to suck, but... it was genuinely amusing.
I want you to know that 7 years later, I still sing some of these songs when I play the game or rewatch the stream. Classic.
One of my all time favorite games. Parents bought me this game for Christmas back in the nineties, fell in love with it. Love what you guys do! Greats foundation you are supporting!
This is an amazing game. So much fun and genuinely difficult. The story is so interesting too! Things like the Kraken fight, being shrunk and fighting the chess army, and oddler betraying you are all so interesting and fun! What a gem!!!!
Finding streams like this of the shining force games makes me so happy ❤️ growing up playing these games so much, and happy to see there’s a community of others like myself who have continued to enjoy the game over the years!
That bit at 2:32:11 almost broke me as a kid. I could not figure out what to do with the tree for so long. From memory I think you also have to approach it from below before you can activate it? Whatever the issue was, I only hired the game and I desperately wanted to finish it, and I was going nuts because I couldn't proceed. I still remember the joy felt when I randomly figured it out.
god i got stuck too for ages, managed to figure out the Pressing A to SEARCH instead of C which is 'USE/talk'part but i legit reset the game and started over coz of it , i was so satisfied when it worked coz i knew it did, but this was kinda pre internet so i couldn't find out.
and don't forget to talk the major 3 times for the boat ;)
Y'all rocking the bandanas 😂❣️
The musical numbers! YES!
Never played this one but I noticed that they talked about the wolfman character in this game as the complete opposite of Zylo. When Zylo joins in SF1 he's one of the strongest on your roster, and his terrain bonus works really well with the upcoming battles.
Coke-a-bow.....I cannot unhear this.
I was searching for my next RPG game to play - had some good contenders but nothing that really hooked me. Saw this and now I know - Shining Force II, for sure.
It is definitely worth it! You won't regret it!
Good choice
Play the hacks after, very challenging and refreshing :)
Did it live up to your expectation?
@@DFunct905 Sure did. This game is fantastic. Highly recommend!
Love what you guys do, and SF2 is one of my all time favorite games! I unfortunately found out that this con was happening a week after it ended. I am from SLC and would have loved to come out to support you guys!
That bridge fight with the worms is pretty similar to the laser eye fight from shining force 1. Not in the sense of the laser eye (the prism flowers are the real laser eye fight) but in the sense of where the battle is located in the world map and how you fight in that battle. I like the little similarities between the games
Awesome job team loved the run good work everyone
This game means so much to me
Shining friends seems to be my long lost fam. I need to look in to shining community.
KokoroNoSama Me 2. I want to be doing some SF videos in the future....hopefully soon..."if it is in the cards"... ;)
www.twitch.tv/team/theshiningfriends
Twenty years later and it bothers me that the Minister never had a portrait
Rather than equipping and un-equipping the power ring all the time, is it worth grinding Peter up a few more levels in the Fairy Woods before promotion? I would love to know the time differences for an extra two levels versus the equipment management.
5:22:00-5:22:08 There's another difference between the red baron and the other barons. The red baron can autorevive after battle, just like Peter, because Lemon is apparently some kind of vampire (some npc mentions that). You can see it between 5:42:04-5:42:56 when Lemon gets killed in battle, isn't revived after egressing but is fine when the party reenters the battle. And they actually mention it it in 5:47:10 so now I'm confused. If you know that, isn't it obvious why they gave him a different class?
My theory.....is that they needed Lemon to auto-revive (almost PHNX like, even), so that ... just in case you had Lemon in the party at the last battle against Zeon (or whenever), and you CHOSE to not revive LEMON at the Church....then....who would make the heroic sacrifice to take Zeon/King Galam away...? I mean...maybe it would have been cooler if Bowie "pulled a Max" (who actually some fans have theorized him to be perhaps a Great Uncle or some slightly distant relative to Bowie....I think the Shining Force Wikia / Moogie says this...). ? Having beaten SF:LGI when I was 7, and beaten SF II when I was 9, that would have left even a greater impression on me than the first one did..idk? What do you guys think? It would surely be cool....in any case.... :D
I love the Locke Lamora Reference.
12:03 start time
Still waiting for the full musical.
Slowly working on it ;_;
Just realizing this now the plot is paying homage to LOTR's with the Jewel of Evil.
Why is ''Shanking Old Lady's in the Woods" not a highlight? More speedruns should have musical numbers.
This game whooped my ass after a kid. Took me a long time to figure out where to go after killing the Kraken. Then another long time to get past Odd-Eye.
Bookmark: 5:13:47
ARBY's passed the Quick Chicken to Waifu.
Waifu is exhausted...
This game gives me such a fucking nostalgia boner.
Slade is the best char in the game.
Gotta like for the singing. Nice!
Is Kiwi worth it in the long run? The usual game trope is that the harder they are to level/power up the more worth it they are late game.
kiwi is amazing in the long run. sure he's weak in his first form the turtle but as soon as you promote him he becomes a tank that can go though enemies i got kiwi up to level 15 promoted and he solod the final boss
Not really. Early on, he has insane defence, but low HP. His defence remains high, but other characters eventually catch up whereas Kiwi's HP remains abysmally low.
keffypoo i remember getting my kiwi to a health of 70 at lvl 15
That's absurdly lucky. Kiwi rarely gets past 45.
keffypoo yeah every level i was lucky getting 3's and 4's
how do you do the movement glitch?
I wonder if they'll ever have a Legend of Dragoon speed run on here... Or if one even exists for that matter
LoD speedruns do exist, but they are painfully long, ~12 hours for a likely marathon estimate (WR is 10h53m). I believe it has been offered and seriously considered, but finding room to fit such a long speedrun when it isn't immensely popular (i.e. an FF or DQ game) is difficult, but there is always a chance it will be in someday
are we entirely sure that's not Gordon Ramsey
More speedruns need to be musicals.
Release the whole musical number on an album
Makes sense lol. I once got everyone to lvl 30 then promoted them by grinding in that forest. Everyone becomes a beast by doing that I'd say. But for speed runs this was cool
Which version allows you to name every character?
Any version of the game allows this. It's a sort of 'New Game Plus' feature, when you have a file that is marked as completed on the game, hold start when naming Bowie, and the options for the others appear.
Again, great video guys....I have heard of NAMI before and did not know that ...idk...you support NAMI with your videos? Or how do that work? Really interested and wonder if I can help out or do something similar/different on my own....I am a BIG RPG / SEGA fan. Shining Force: Legacy of the Great Intention was actually my first RPG I remember playing...and LIKING! Feel free to contact me (I am also on FB/Twitter/Email)
Also...a great resource 4 SF II fans is: sf2.shiningforcecentral.com/characters/
I just have 2 questions...1st how do you know which item does what, I never have been able to find where to read it, 2nd how did you rename all the characters???
RAZORlukic As far as renaming all the characters, can't it be done by inserting the "secret code" while the Sega logo is scrolling across the screen? I know Shining Force Central and other sites tell how to do this......I know I've done it, but only on an actual SEGA cartridge, not a ROM....
thx.. I found out what items do on the internet... sadly I don't think it shows in the game
why is bowie saying entire sentences? didn't he just yawn or sighs?
He has....a few lines....maybe not as memorable as HERO Max's, but...I digress....
was spike vegeta the host?
You mean the greatest person ever??? Lol and yes that was Spike
Jaha has crabs
Was this tool assisted?
The animation looks fast
21:30-22:00 Neeeeerrrds!
2:55:12 uhhhh, What!?
Shining Force 2... oh you mean the best game in all of creation. I dont speedrun but wonded if there's a strat for soloing Sarah.
You could literally place Bowie in front of Sarah on battle 2 and heal him taking one hit, heal, rinse and repeat to level 40. Wait for elven village for her promotion item. Super OP broken Sarah.
EPIC run. Galam was a bastard!
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Shining Force 2 is one of my favorite games
Same
6:10:23 I remember being furious when seeing all of Crab’s so-called friends being weirdly racist at him. Let him kiss the princess!
2:49:50 - Wow, really? Can't let him in the drawing because he didn't donate enough in a single chunk? That's dickish.
Rules are rules. It may seem dickish but it does maintain some order to it. And also they usually DO have "end of event" prizes where the donation from start to end of event does stack. But they can't do that for all of them cause that'd be a unrealistic amount of time the Volunteers would have to sink in just to try and keep track of them all. This isn't gdq where they only take $5 or more. RPGLB is great because if you literally only have $1 to donate they will still take it happily for the great cause they support
The difficulty should be Ouch.
We are all pros in this game.
Ouch is a bugged difficulty. It doesn't work as intended so is only as hard as Hard mode. Super is actually the hardest difficulty in the game.
At 2:23:20 Sarah walks out of the movement range. So this is a TAS.
Its not a TAS. Its a movement glitch. Bowie explains this around 41 minutes into the run.
Simmionla Tas would not be able to do that, Tas can put in inputs every frame and manipulate luck no cheating
Favorite games from Sega, SNES, Gameboy, N64, PS1:
Sega - Shining Force II, Contra Hard Corps
Super Nintendo - Final Fantasy 3, Killer Instinct, Rock 'N Roll Racing, The Legend of Zelda, Super Mario World, Mega Man... 5? Chrono Trigger, wow there's a lot on snes, Secret of Evermore, Demons Crest
Gameboy Color - Poke'mon Red, Final Fantasy Adventure
Nintendo 64 - Zelda 64, 007, Super Smash Brothers, Battle Tanks
Playstation 1 - Final Fantasy 7, Parasite Eve, Vagrant Story, Ehrgeiz
Let me know if I missed any legendary games!
Interesting that you love FF Adventure on the GameBoy, I actually ran that at this event as well, a little later in the week. Have a look, I hope you like it :)
Bowie Alexander
Woah man...maybe he was thinking Mega Man 7? idk...lol. And he was probably ... generalizing about the actual title for the SNES for the Zelda game (basically Zelda 3/Link to the Past)....
Hey Jason: This would be my incomplete SEGA Genesis list:
SEGA--Shining Force I & II; Phantasy Star IV, Sonic 2, 3, & Knuckles, Streets of Rage 2 & 3, Super Street Fighter II, X-Men 1 & 2 (Clone Wars), Shinobi III, General Chaos, Light Crusader, Warrior of Rome II (fantastic underrated game, once you figure out the controls), & .... COMIX ZONE! ...there are others, but this is all i could remember at the time (some of which are probably on the Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection..)
You forgot to add Final Fantasy Tactics.
Арбуз 😂😂😂😂😂
Why does every nerd say Bowie wrong
glad i never got given this pos as a kid even back then it would be a franchise killer
I don’t understand why people do speedruns? They’re really stressful and anxiety inducing
huh. funny how all sf2 is just cos of some bint wanting
I totally agree that Sheel is best girl.
Please never sing again
Learn to pronounce astral keeps saying "austrail" jesus christ dont try to make it sound different
????? why so si-ri-us, man.... I think I should post Black Eyed Peas' "Where is the Love" or something....