Physicists say potential matter exists in a probabilistic wave field and only becomes actualized matter when it interacts with an outside stimulus (or observer). Sounds exactly how a sophisticated cosmic virtual reality might operate. This means we exist outside the VR in some other form, possibly non-physical, and we enter into our “avatars” at birth to learn how to excel at this game of existence, perhaps to become better "souls." And the programmer must be something larger, still.
I compute therefore I am. We assume then: that the observer must in some way interact with that which is being observed only when it pops into existence and not at other times when it does not exist except in some sort of amorphous cloud of energy or something that cannot be interacted with with any known quantum force. It does not count when I observed that nothing was there before something was there , but only in the trivial case where I cannot reverse the arrow of time. That trivial case being realized at the macro scale and not at the scale where things actually exist or not. So the programmer must be something much smaller, still.
@@ronaldlogan3525 In a virtual reality there is no matter/energy. It's all just a simulation of matter/energy, which enters our conscious awareness via a data stream of information. In this regard, as it related to the observer effect in quantum mechanics, Einstein questioned, “does that mean the Moon is not there when I am not looking at it?” No. It means the moon is not there even when you are looking at it. LOL. Like everything else (seemingly) material in a VR, the moon doesn't actually exist. It's just data/information. The one and only thing that does exist within a VR is our conscious experience of it.
Because what has already happened, history, and what is happenning right now, is the optimal computation/result of a very simple program (according to this guy). If we consider another computation/result different from this one (that is, one where there is no particular "member" for example) then we are dealing with a computation that is not optimal, or in other words, slower and longer.
genius has spoken again - his research group is winning all those artificial intelligence competitions with their neural networks - they also proved the central theorems of mathematically optimal artificial general intelligence - and perhaps he can even explain the entire universe as the result of an optimal computation of all mathematically possible multiverses, like in this talk - please accept my almost religious awe :-)
Juergen is brilliant and an exceptional speaker. He is a mover and shaker in the field. No wonder he generates some hatred/envy within the scientific community,
Xetable, are you referring to the D-Wave "quantum computer"? Quantum expert Vazirani said: "Their claimed speedup over classical algorithms appears to be based on a misunderstanding of [my paper on adiabatic quantum computing]. That speed up unfortunately does not hold in the setting at hand, and therefore D-Wave's "quantum computer" even if it turns out to be a true quantum computer, and even if it can be scaled to thousands of qubits, would likely not be more powerful than a cell phone."
String theory, digital theory, it's important to know. But, the more important question is, why? What is the point of good, evil, the experience of being alive, etc...? Life forms are conscious for what reason? Is your awareness a by-product of the Universe being itself or is it vice-versa? How can you take a mathematical process and account for love? If you can, then why has love been 'programmed' or 'made possible' for us to experience?
Understanding duality in nature... I would hope... Bettering ones self through knowledge not the other way around. I think if you look hard enough you'll find most are trying to find definitions merely to sway their conscience when it comes to a Master Slave relationship...
When you think about how life (in the abstract) has existed, likely for all eternity...an unfathomable duration on time (and im sure at some point time itself ceases to be relevant) its difficult not to believe that some ultra advanced form of intelligence isn't cloaking our universe. Perhaps it even created our universe as Schmidhuber suggests. You have to wonder whether or not this leads us back to god.
Huh? Xetable, I searched for Schmidhuber & Bell's inequality; he wrote in Nature 439, 392, 2006: "Neither Heisenberg's uncertainty principle nor Bell's inequality exclude the possibility, however small, that the Universe, including all observers inhabiting it, is in principle computable by a completely deterministic computer program, as first suggested by computer pioneer Konrad Zuse in 1967." See also realism assumptions etc behind Bell's inequality: Valdenebro 2002 Eur. J. Phys. 23 569.
someone said, The German is the only one who can express/give love by intelligence ! well yes, I can hear it, sometimes feel it when I'm driving my Volkswagen Auto and putting a trance music by a German or another///
Quantum Computers are going to be here soon/ already are for specific computations. But he is trying to say that they might not necessarily be very useful, as they might need too much classical computation to run to be fast enough/useful
haha he did the same jokes in some other talk. I also dont like his way of talking. But i must say: I love his Ideas. He is one of the persons which seem to know deep stuff about reality. He is also very successfull with his artificial neural nets. Lets see if he is right about quantum computer. I always thought they are real but i certainly give his opinion some weight. Time will tell
Juergen left out the observers effect in this theory. He refers to "free will." But a machine or artificial intelligence can never have a living Soul. Free Will or "Soul"; however does have random aspects.
It could be that there is no code, but that code is still a good way to understand what is going on. Whether there is actually any code may be irrelevant, I suppose.
This guy has no clue about quantum mechanics. He asserts that quantum computers are dead, and that there has been no practical progress, even though they just reached commercialization in 2011. He obviously doesn't know what Bell's Theorem states, since he just hand-waves it by mischaracterizing Bell's own preference for hidden-variable theories, which contradict his own beliefs expressed here. He is a computer scientist, speaking of things he knows not of. He should be embarrassed.
Drastically underrated talk. He explained the universe!
This comment plays a significant role in our universe, otherwise it would not be computed.
😂🤣😌
Physicists say potential matter exists in a probabilistic wave field and only becomes actualized matter when it interacts with an outside stimulus (or observer). Sounds exactly how a sophisticated cosmic virtual reality might operate. This means we exist outside the VR in some other form, possibly non-physical, and we enter into our “avatars” at birth to learn how to excel at this game of existence, perhaps to become better "souls." And the programmer must be something larger, still.
Wow... I actually got that. Now, what needs to be addressed, is the difference between "bigger" and "better", and who decides.
I compute therefore I am. We assume then: that the observer must in some way interact with that which is being observed only when it pops into existence and not at other times when it does not exist except in some sort of amorphous cloud of energy or something that cannot be interacted with with any known quantum force. It does not count when I observed that nothing was there before something was there , but only in the trivial case where I cannot reverse the arrow of time. That trivial case being realized at the macro scale and not at the scale where things actually exist or not. So the programmer must be something much smaller, still.
@@ronaldlogan3525 In a virtual reality there is no matter/energy. It's all just a simulation of matter/energy, which enters our conscious awareness via a data stream of information. In this regard, as it related to the observer effect in quantum mechanics, Einstein questioned, “does that mean the Moon is not there when I am not looking at it?” No. It means the moon is not there even when you are looking at it. LOL. Like everything else (seemingly) material in a VR, the moon doesn't actually exist. It's just data/information. The one and only thing that does exist within a VR is our conscious experience of it.
This vid is even more relevant today
Question. Why would a simulation WITHOUT a certain "member" would run slower and longer than with it? [13:20]
Because what has already happened, history, and what is happenning right now, is the optimal computation/result of a very simple program (according to this guy). If we consider another computation/result different from this one (that is, one where there is no particular "member" for example) then we are dealing with a computation that is not optimal, or in other words, slower and longer.
genius has spoken again - his research group is winning all those artificial intelligence competitions with their neural networks - they also proved the central theorems of mathematically optimal artificial general intelligence - and perhaps he can even explain the entire universe as the result of an optimal computation of all mathematically possible multiverses, like in this talk - please accept my almost religious awe :-)
Juergen is brilliant and an exceptional speaker. He is a mover and shaker in the field. No wonder he generates some hatred/envy within the scientific community,
Xetable, are you referring to the D-Wave "quantum computer"? Quantum expert Vazirani said: "Their claimed speedup over classical algorithms appears to be based on a misunderstanding of [my paper on adiabatic quantum computing]. That speed up unfortunately does not hold in the setting at hand, and therefore D-Wave's "quantum computer" even if it turns out to be a true quantum computer, and even if it can be scaled to thousands of qubits, would likely not be more powerful than a cell phone."
String theory, digital theory, it's important to know. But, the more important question is, why? What is the point of good, evil, the experience of being alive, etc...? Life forms are conscious for what reason? Is your awareness a by-product of the Universe being itself or is it vice-versa? How can you take a mathematical process and account for love? If you can, then why has love been 'programmed' or 'made possible' for us to experience?
Understanding duality in nature... I would hope... Bettering ones self through knowledge not the other way around. I think if you look hard enough you'll find most are trying to find definitions merely to sway their conscience when it comes to a Master Slave relationship...
When you think about how life (in the abstract) has existed, likely for all eternity...an unfathomable duration on time (and im sure at some point time itself ceases to be relevant) its difficult not to believe that some ultra advanced form of intelligence isn't cloaking our universe. Perhaps it even created our universe as Schmidhuber suggests. You have to wonder whether or not this leads us back to god.
Huh? Xetable, I searched for Schmidhuber & Bell's inequality; he wrote in Nature 439, 392, 2006: "Neither Heisenberg's uncertainty principle nor Bell's inequality exclude the possibility, however small, that the Universe, including all observers inhabiting it, is in principle computable by a completely deterministic computer program, as first suggested by computer pioneer Konrad Zuse in 1967." See also realism assumptions etc behind Bell's inequality: Valdenebro 2002 Eur. J. Phys. 23 569.
You're confusing Jürgen with his postdoc, Marcus Hutter. He is associated with AIXI, but neither he, nor his lab, is its originator.
He didn't show anything though
+Jean-Luc Dushimiye Aint that the truth.
OK, but who coded the original universe, then ?
someone said, The German is the only one who can express/give love by intelligence ! well yes, I can hear it, sometimes feel it when I'm driving my Volkswagen Auto and putting a trance music by a German or another///
Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 is just the beginning
he talks a lot about salt of cryptography.
5:12 I had the very same insight.
Related: "Stephen Wolfram: Computing a theory of everything" watch?v=60P7717-XOQ
Is he claiming he has the code written on his paper? I mean ....doubtful
didnt they build the first working quantum computer last year or so?? Carrying out a few simple computations?
Yes.. and they're building a DWave Quantum computer with 4096 Qbits now I think. Quantum Computers are now where regular computers were in the 60s.
Republic3D
So Jürgi was wrong? ;)
Quantum Computers are going to be here soon/ already are for specific computations. But he is trying to say that they might not necessarily be very useful, as they might need too much classical computation to run to be fast enough/useful
what is that code that he said is written in that small paper
i want to know NOW
and i mean NOW
NOW
NOW
NOW
arxiv.org/pdf/cs/0206022v1.pdf
haha he did the same jokes in some other talk. I also dont like his way of talking. But i must say: I love his Ideas. He is one of the persons which seem to know deep stuff about reality. He is also very successfull with his artificial neural nets. Lets see if he is right about quantum computer. I always thought they are real but i certainly give his opinion some weight. Time will tell
The same reason a 3 Ghz processor is faster than a 2.9 Ghz.
Simulation inside a simulation inside another simulation.
Incredible talk... but at 11:06 did you say you were creating "artificial Asians" if so theyre going to take over the artificial/natural/real world.
Transcript please. Life's far too short. I could miss my 15 minutes.
it was on the contrary ordained that you put aside time for this talk.
"artificial agents"
You should read the books of ZILLMER and BEHE - they know the truth
Juergen left out the observers effect in this theory. He refers to "free will."
But a machine or artificial intelligence can never have a living Soul. Free Will or "Soul"; however does have random aspects.
That was me, sorry shit got out of hand.
This guy is nuts
Does he have to tell the same jokes at every TED talk he gives?
Peter Morgan Yes.................
Peter Morgan Yes.
Peter Morganrgan There is no escape to it
Peter Morgan lol
+Peter Morgan It's just how he was programmed.
no deep theory...there is no code, because a code is always something limiting. Its more a field of ALL possibilities, no code, no computing...
A code is not limiting.
It could be that there is no code, but that code is still a good way to understand what is going on. Whether there is actually any code may be irrelevant, I suppose.
Does Jürgen always make the same lame jokes at every talk?
To be fair, it was quite funny the first time.
kun fayakun..
Anythiing but God...........
Sounds like another view of Creationism.
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Mit anderen Worten: eine erfolgreiche Rede.
Dude could be smart as hell far as i know but this talk had the same substance as my speeches after 15 beers. Sorry mate
Life is more than just "substance". Did you enjoy those beers? If you spot me one for everyone you drink, I'll be glad to "listen" to your speeches.
This is just another creation myth.
Sure, but his myth seems to leave a lot less to be explained, i.e., has a lot fewer moving parts.
Joke stealer
This guy has no clue about quantum mechanics. He asserts that quantum computers are dead, and that there has been no practical progress, even though they just reached commercialization in 2011. He obviously doesn't know what Bell's Theorem states, since he just hand-waves it by mischaracterizing Bell's own preference for hidden-variable theories, which contradict his own beliefs expressed here. He is a computer scientist, speaking of things he knows not of. He should be embarrassed.
Quantum computers are still in the same situation right now.