Freddie Foreman - The Krays: How I First Met The Krays
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- Freddie Foreman - "I didn't particularly want to meet them at all..."
Freddie was doing shop "jobs" with Tommy Wisbey, Billy Hart & Buster Edwards stealing white goods from various places and Charlie Kray ended up being his biggest buyer.
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Early Life
Born at 22 Sheepcote Lane, Battersea in March 1932 to Herbert Albert Foreman, an Irishman. 22 Sheepcote Lane was a terraced two-up and two-down house, sharing a bedroom with four of his brothers, situated nearby The Flag pub. Foreman was involved in violence from a young age. He was known for his involvement with audacious criminal plans, one of which was the murder of Frank 'The Mad Axeman' Mitchell - a British criminal previously befriended by Ronnie Kray when they served a sentence together at Wandsworth prison.
Criminal activity
Foreman was involved in the Shoreditch Security Express robbery of 1983, which at the time was the largest cash robbery in the UK. For his part in it, he received nine years in prison. At the time of the Kray's arrest, he was thirty-six, and licensee of The Prince Of Wales, Lant Street in Southwark
Foreman also confessed to the murders of Frank "Mad Axeman" Mitchell, and of Tommy "Ginger" Marks in the 1960s in revenge for the shooting of his brother (shot in the legs). He had been acquitted of the murders at an Old Bailey trial in the 1960s where he was listed as living at Red Post Hill, Dulwich, London. He additionally claimed to have intimidated witnesses to the killing of George Cornell in the Blind Beggar Pub in Whitechapel by Ronnie Kray and to having been a hitman for the Kray twins.
Arrest and conviction
He was tried on two separate occasions for murder, and found not guilty, and has convictions for handling the proceeds of an armed robbery and separately for disposing of a body, that of Jack "the Hat" McVitie. Foreman also admitted to the murders of Frank "Mad Axeman" Mitchell, and of Tommy "Ginger" Marks during the 1960s in his autobiography, Respect, in revenge for the shooting of his brother who had been shot in the legs. He had been acquitted of these murders at an Old Bailey trial in the 1960s. Foreman moved to Spain after he left prison.
Later life
He is the father of actor Jamie Foreman, Gregory Foreman and Danielle Foreman. In 2018, a biopic documentary "Fred" was released. Foreman’s team approached Salon after seeing its work on underworld documentary “The Guv’nor,” and subsequent movie “My Name is Lenny.” Rather than glamorizing Foreman’s life of crime, “Fred” is a somber and intimate look at the notorious villain towards the end of his life. “Fred” was written, and is directed by, Salon’s Paul Van Carter.
In 2019 Gangster No 1 - The Freddie Foreman Story was released, a documentary casting Foreman as The Godfather" of Britain's criminal underworld.
Fred is a proper chap, always as good as his word, humble and not flash. A proper hard bastard in his day and a clever man.
Chatted to Freddie a couple of times, interesting man. Love the old school tales and I'm particularly fascinated with the 60's in general. Let's hope when they finally write a script and do a movie about Fred, it's a decent cast and well produced.
Let's hope Hollywood don't get hold of it 🤣🤣🤣
Me also love hearing about the 60s seems so exciting and real not like today boring & All false 🙃
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Salute to you Freddie Foreman and your a Legend doing the best to stay under the radar, very few left with the great train robbers, Buster great film and story. Keep bringing the content of Brown Bread Fred. Get your life on the Big Screen. All the best for the future with the family around you. 🙏💯
Fascinating stuff, Fred's an original London legend and the more stories we hear from him the better, as one day he will be gone and the man himself won't be able to tell his story.
Good to see Freds still got his marbles, still sharp as a tack! He's about the only one from that era that is still alive
ain't Eddie still alive or did he kick it?
@@northernstarr yeah he’s still alive I think
Amazing to have two of the most notorious criminal masterminds sitting down for a chat! I’m impressed Freddy wasn’t intimidated..he’s obviously stared death in the face a number of times and can’t be phased!
Meant to be a very savvy dude, I heard he managed to get Charlie Wilson & Ronnie Biggs out of the Country when they escaped from Prison, New Papers & A way out of the Country, idk if he helped with the Escapes, wouldn't be surprised if he helped Bruce Reynolds & Buster Edwards get out of the Country too if it is really true?
@@68majortom it’s possible. Buster Edwards was part of Foreman’s original firm in the mid 50’s. As foreman was originally from South London he knew the train robbers. He was good friends with Bruce Reynolds. When Bruce got stabbed in the back at a bathhouse in the 50’s by Frank Mitchell (Max Axeman)..Freddie swore revenge! Probably why the Krays knew he would be up for taking him out years later when they wanted Mitchell gone!
@@its_rick_james_bich2575 yeah Tommy Wisbey was part off the Crew if I remember rightly ?
This is brown bread Fred. I doubt he scares easy
Quite a character, I can’t help feeling he is telling like it actually was.
Ronnie and Reg would now be 88 years old and Charlie 95 if still alive today.
Dave doing interviews now hahaha
Damn Fred stil going u legend ❤️❤️ last of the old school gentlemen
I like listening to Freddy talk about London back in the day. It sounds like a glorious time full of honest criminals all doing a little to get a few quid. When crime was just a job. No drugs and gang wars. Everyone wore a suit and tie. Respected each other and had straighteners if they had a issue with one another. London today is a dangerous place. Kids with guns and knives killing eachother over corners.
Hmm what happened need I ask
@@Joeblogs111 what do you think happened ?
No drugs or gang wars? ...Totally deluded
"Honest" criminals? You conveniently ignore the violence dished out in the 60s. Perhaps because you weren't there.
@@dperson9212 i just meant there was a code which doesn't exist today.
Brown bread Fred is gangster no1. Never mind the krays. This is the man.
LEGEND
I love Brown Bread Fred. Legit Gangster but a decent character,old school morals.
He uses the word "Fucking" so well lol
Gangster or not,the man's a gent..
Top man
Is Dave courtney doing this interview
Yes
I think Freddie found the krays too flash. Freddie was an in the background behind the scenes criminal. Remaining invisible with a psychotic paranoid schizophrenic in ronnie was always gonna end in disaster for everyone and eventually it did. I've never seen one interview where Fred is complimentary about them. As far as he concerned they landed him in more crap and killed a lot of people over nothing.
My Dad was "around" London at that time doing door work and a bit of debt collecting with Brian Reader as a side earner to his building work. He tells me the Krays were mostly known because Ron was a complete nutter and they'd use unnecessary violence. Fred's view of them was pretty much the general view,there were successful gangsters around,if you want to call them that, but you'll never read books or hear about them because they were intelligent and stayed under the radar with legit businesses as their public face. Don't forget the book that John Pearson wrote about the Krays was basically commissioned by Ron Kray to create an image that it was best for Pearson he went along with, a later one tells a different story.
When Ronnie Kray said jump Freddie Forman did as he was told.
@@dave8204 stop talking bollocks. The krays were appearing in the newspapers and on TV long before Pearson got involved. There's a book about the Krays that came out before Profession of Violence.
@@wrexhamreport7691 I suppose you would know being from Wrexham
@@wrexhamreport7691 where the hell did you get that idea. No he didn't lol
Just wonderding if Billy Hart was related to Dickie?
He sounds so likeable and genteel. Just can't imagine him being ruthless and violent.
Only when he needed to be
Brown Fred.... Top..
It crazy how people think these people are legends These men done nothing but stealing and killing never done a honest day work In their lives
Their always lovable when they are older. 😉🤫
shut up dave "myth was bigger than it was" you and freddie no disrespect were both joey's for them when they needed you
OK we get it, your channel is gangster tales 😂 quit ruining the interview with silly interruptions with the name of the channel