BLUE THUNDER!!! Logging with a $320 ms460 clone with Mitch Zenobi. Reviewing the Holzfforma G466

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  • @justacceptdefeat
    @justacceptdefeat Год назад +53

    Sawyer from Montana here, that Mitch Zenobi guy is a badass. I don't think I've seen someone fell so precisely with such little effort ever in my life. Fun video, thanks

  • @dhooter
    @dhooter Год назад +197

    10 years ago the clones were 99 bucks free shipping. Bought two and they still run. I even keep them outside in the elements. They always start and run lol

    • @GotrekGurninsson
      @GotrekGurninsson Год назад +6

      I have an 8yo echo top handle knock off. Still trucking to this day I use it every year. Honestly think it would outlast a real echo

    • @gl9500
      @gl9500 Год назад +30

      10 years ago, I spent a $1,000 on a stihl. Today use ones go for $1000.

    • @Jamesvh122
      @Jamesvh122 10 месяцев назад +12

      I'm sure this guy could get 99 for his saw too. Also inflation is a bitch.

    • @b85douglas
      @b85douglas 8 месяцев назад +3

      ​@gl9500 who saved money for same result

    • @AverageHouseHusband
      @AverageHouseHusband 8 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@gl9500 For me the question is does a 10 year old saw have the functional value of 3 new clone saws and realistically nope...

  • @petermccuskey1832
    @petermccuskey1832 2 года назад +119

    My youngest son has got this and ported, polished, tuned exhaust using it for one of his milling saws. Its a beast and still kicking after 2 yrs.

    • @fanosoX
      @fanosoX 2 года назад +2

      Does he run it rich?

    • @jimnaz5267
      @jimnaz5267 2 года назад

      EVERY DOLLAR YOU SPEND ON A CHINESE PRODUCT, BUYS ANOTHER CHINESE BULLET TO KILL AMERICANS WAKE UP.

    • @hardcoreplayafromthehimala4888
      @hardcoreplayafromthehimala4888 2 года назад +8

      @@fanosoX you don't have to run it rich to be safe, just muffler mod and 33:1 low flash point synthetic oil.

  • @jimc3891
    @jimc3891 2 года назад +35

    I am enjoying watching a new generation of Arborists using the latest technology, tools, gear, and knowledge. Taking tree work to a new level. Sure helps having the internet for getting what you are doing to all of us out there. Am 72, became a licensed Arborist in Ct. back in 1981. Mostly Consult these days, and Tree Warden in my town. In the Ct Statutes outlining the duties of a Tree Warden, the one I am really fond of is “responsible for roadside beauty.” Can’t beat that for part of your job description.

  • @_Cleck_
    @_Cleck_ Год назад +24

    If anyone gets one of these, tuning these was interesting. We put a tach on mine and it was about 8k on the high end. That's how much they had it tuned down. I think we ended up going 11.5-12k to stay safe. Huge difference.

    • @gabrielcheneyholub3330
      @gabrielcheneyholub3330 Год назад +1

      Why are higher revs better? are they safer? cut better?

    • @_Cleck_
      @_Cleck_ Год назад +5

      @@gabrielcheneyholub3330 it's like running a car in its powerband. It just performs better in this range. It's more efficient, it's more responsive, it cuts smoothly, etc. Every saw has its own powerband/Rev limit you don't want to go over, or like a car, you'll be building a new motor.

    • @TheDennys21
      @TheDennys21 6 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@gabrielcheneyholub3330 more revs=cuts faster, it ain't rocket science.

    • @rowdybroomstick6394
      @rowdybroomstick6394 7 дней назад

      They'll do 13,500 safely

  • @johntwemlow6089
    @johntwemlow6089 2 года назад +91

    I live in New Zealand, and thoroughly enjoying this new "Guilty of Treeson" RUclips Channel. You have a relaxing, engaging way of communicating your message. It also looks like you have a real "community" of saw men in your part of the world. Great to watch and hear.

    • @jimnaz5267
      @jimnaz5267 2 года назад

      EVERY DOLLAR YOU SPEND ON A CHINESE PRODUCT, BUYS ANOTHER CHINESE BULLET TO KILL AMERICANS WAKE UP.

    • @theodoresylvester
      @theodoresylvester Год назад +1

      😊 9:27

  • @johndunbar2393
    @johndunbar2393 2 года назад +345

    I'm really digging the direction of this new channel and how it's playing out. It really showcases the personalities in the tree work industry. It keeps it "fresh", that's an old 80's term for all you youngsters out there. Thanks for sharing Jake and thanks for the long videos. Nothing worse than getting into a video and then poof, it's over. Take care fella!

  • @Fast85FoxGT
    @Fast85FoxGT 2 года назад +82

    I run a old MS460 that has a big bore 54mm kit on it and it does pretty well. Its a hand-me-down saw that was owned by my father who rebuilt it. It was given to him by an old Korean war vet who actually was the one who taught my dad how to fall and cut trees (when he moved to my state before I was born our house had a wood fireplace and he would buy cords of wood prior to him meeting the family friend.) The family friend passed away at age 88. He was slinging around a old 088 until he was 80 or so. I will always treasure this saw.

  • @drewd2046
    @drewd2046 2 года назад +37

    I have the 660 version, for what it is I really like it. Cut a decent amount of wood with it. The cheesy little gas can for mine though was a mix jug. Filled the small side to the line for the ratio you want and the bog side with gas then shake the can and it auto mixes. Cheesy but cool lol

    • @red606
      @red606 Год назад +9

      Any issues with it yet or still awesome?
      I'm interested in these.

  • @timjohnson780
    @timjohnson780 Год назад +52

    That saw held up rather well to be compared to a big ported stihl. My buddy bought a holzforma saw had is 3 years now still runs good. I'm a stilh tech were a licensed Stihl dealer I'm always working on them. Love the content. We're going to buy a couple holzforma saws and throw em into rental see how they hold up.

    • @blakenoble4014
      @blakenoble4014 Год назад +17

      Rental items are usually treated rough, that'll be a good way to test the saws.

    • @JMGeranimo
      @JMGeranimo 11 месяцев назад +6

      Would love to hear how they are. Any news?

    • @stevenbrown5210
      @stevenbrown5210 9 месяцев назад +5

      How'd it go?!?

    • @diggerdave.6587
      @diggerdave.6587 8 месяцев назад +1

      It'd be fun to get one ported and see how it holds up after that.

  • @ivanmosqueda7947
    @ivanmosqueda7947 2 года назад +15

    By far the coolest guy you have worked with since stepping away from east side. Keep up the cool vids man 🤙

    • @falfield
      @falfield 2 года назад

      Is this a style show? Is that all it is for you? Hmmmn.

  • @lawrenceferriter7010
    @lawrenceferriter7010 2 года назад +24

    This is gold!! The 90cc ported saw is sick. I thought Ricky Carmichael was riding by

  • @cylancedugoud7305
    @cylancedugoud7305 2 года назад +25

    Keep in mind, Gents. Apples to Apples. To look at efficiency and speed, you'd need to have the same bar, same chain, and ... same RPM ... for each saw, to have a direct comparison. 90 cc can pull more teeth through a piece of wood, but 75 cc could do it faster, if the RPM's were higher. Sorry, I'm a science guy. Thanks for the video, though. Nice to meet ya, Mitch!

    • @bairfamilyfarm1336
      @bairfamilyfarm1336 2 года назад +3

      Low end torque is a bigger factor than rpm. A slower saw with more low end torque will cut faster than a fast saw with little low end torque. Once that sharp chain bogs down the saw it doesn’t take much for a high torque motor to recover as where a fast motor with little torque will require backing off and cutting slower.

    • @tcmits3699
      @tcmits3699 Год назад

      Two interesting points, wonder if a chain saw had a 2 speed trans or gear reduction providing more torque at a lower chain speed, what would be the results? Just food for thought

    • @Whyohwhygarage
      @Whyohwhygarage Год назад

      I’m in Shelton and from Michigan. I’ve been cutting wood my entire life and learned a few tricks!

  • @gametime2473
    @gametime2473 Год назад +11

    That big Stihl was insanely powerful. It went through a huge trunk like butter.

  • @MuhaloTube
    @MuhaloTube 2 года назад +18

    "I pounded my wedge a little too far. Stupid chinese saw" XD Seemed to handle that 32 inch bar pretty well actually.

  • @localcrew
    @localcrew 2 года назад +17

    I bought a Holzfforma G372 about four years ago and it’s now my “Go to” saw. I’m a Stihl guy but I had a Husky bar & chain and for about 190 bucks and free shipping I took a chance. Break them in and get the carb adjusted right and they’re great saws. If need be, there’s always my Stihl 461 to fall back on.
    Great video. Just subscribed!

    • @96cr
      @96cr Год назад

      I think the big thing is you can work on these saws before the factory started building them crappy

  • @colvinwellborn
    @colvinwellborn 2 года назад +28

    The main thing that you get from the Farmertec/Holzfforma products is inconsistency, which is likely because they skimp on quality assurance as a way to drop the price point. So some people say they're great and some people say they're junk because that's what their individual unit was like. But because they're completely compatible clones, you can swap OEM or other aftermarket parts on to them, and some choice replacements with OEM can make all the difference. In particular, the aftermarket carbs are really hit-or-miss, so replacing it with an OEM can make a world of difference and the saw will still be a great deal.

    • @jessemauer5455
      @jessemauer5455 2 года назад

      Which is exactly why NO ONE should send this company, or any other thieving intellectually deprived China company a dime. Stihl products are designed by some of the best engineers and designers in the world for the industry. These nasty chinese just re-label the product and use junk materials to build it. Intellectual theft and to buy this saw is to truly not care.

    • @terryrothgeb1684
      @terryrothgeb1684 2 года назад +2

      Dude, this! I was just thinking this.. It sounds identical to a 460. I bet slapping on a new carb, coil and plug, tune it, put on heftier AV mounts and replace parts as they brake, this thing would literally just be a blue 460 basically..

    • @browngreen933
      @browngreen933 2 года назад

      I'm using 2 aftermarket chainsaw carbs right now. Both work great. But the next one???

    • @Dropsix
      @Dropsix 2 года назад +2

      @@terryrothgeb1684 Only thing is, all said and done could you have bought a name brand saw used for a similar price? I like the idea of this saw as a toy though!

    • @terryrothgeb1684
      @terryrothgeb1684 2 года назад

      @@Dropsix i guess that's the gamble, ive heard a mixed bag of reviews. Its tempting to try lmfao

  • @sfkeygrip
    @sfkeygrip 2 года назад +22

    I feel like this is the saw you keep in your truck box of your pick up if you live in a rural area but go into town a lot. Or on your tractor/atv. Its good enough and big enough to do some unexpected work or clear a fallen tree off the road but cheap enough where if stolen or damaged you don't lose too much sleep over it.

    • @markeverson5849
      @markeverson5849 Год назад

      It would be a great saw for cutting the arms and legs off of a thief people have to stop putting up with burglary and thievery and whoop the hell out of them sick and tired of a corrupt court system that makes money off the criminal and the victim gets nothing back how about you stop condoning corruption

    • @mtbasshead
      @mtbasshead Год назад +2

      Its the exact saw that you can buy from a pawn shop for 350 thats 20 years old but might have 1000 cords on it. Remember theyre comparing a NEW stihl to one designed in the 90s. If thats all you want a 150$ Poland is plenty.

    • @kiradelong9698
      @kiradelong9698 Год назад

      @@mtbassheadyou show me any pawn shop of listing for 70+cc saw with big bar that sell for under $350

    • @kiradelong9698
      @kiradelong9698 Год назад

      @@mtbassheadyou show me any pawn shop of listing for 70+cc saw with big bar that sell for under $350

  • @bencote2219
    @bencote2219 2 года назад +5

    Your boy Paul Bunyan rocking the Stihl logo on his helmet like he’s in the NFL
    No wonder he hates on blue thunder

  • @AviewFromUnder
    @AviewFromUnder Год назад +4

    Reading forces of standing wood is one thing but reading forces in laying wood is often far more complex! We can fuss and fuss over how to fell the tree then move into bucking with no regard or fear of the outcome. All said I enjoy your videos and you do quality work!

  • @gocoastgaurd721
    @gocoastgaurd721 2 года назад +9

    The ported 660 is just such a hot saw 😂😂😂. Just when i was like, man that thing’s doing good, then outcomes the 660. Terrible comparison but great to see the difference 😂. Love the vid

  • @stevensfirewood8658
    @stevensfirewood8658 2 года назад +6

    I have a g444 (ms440 clone). I’ve probably cut 50+ cords of hardwoods and dropped some trees with it. I’ve had to replace the handle since it bent and the worm gear just broke (replaced with a Amazon no name). It almost keeps up with my ms462 with a 25” bar. And I don’t have to worry about a $1100+ saw bouncing around when I’m on my tractor.

    • @noclass2gun342
      @noclass2gun342 2 года назад +1

      I have the same saw. Rockin a 32" tsumara bar and stihl rs33 full house chain. I love it

  • @stihlnz
    @stihlnz 2 года назад +18

    I've had 3 460's ...they are great light saw's, for limbing and running around with a 24" bar compared to the 660/880 ... with a barker box and square ground chain it's my favourite saw.

  • @EcSsAwS
    @EcSsAwS 2 года назад +14

    I've had a blue 372xp clone with a 52mm big bore kit for over 2 years now and well over 60gallon of fuel. No real issues. Pull cord broke (that happens on OEM too)
    Now I have 4 clone 372s and a real 372 as well
    People tend to hate these saws. But if you actually spend time with them. They ain't so bad
    I've had great success

    • @zachgordon9531
      @zachgordon9531 2 года назад +3

      I have never used one, I know we don't make a saw in America dam shame. I just wish we didn't import from China so much, this is why I won't get one.

    • @onthelake9554
      @onthelake9554 2 года назад +1

      @@zachgordon9531 Smaller stihls are made in the USA . Have been for years.

    • @zachgordon9531
      @zachgordon9531 2 года назад +1

      @@onthelake9554 I did not know that, thanks for the information 👍

    • @falfield
      @falfield 2 года назад +1

      @@zachgordon9531 I'm so glad to hear you say this - especially as all the others blurting "Yeah, I've got a blue one too...." demonstrate NO awareness at all of the issue.
      It's as if they haven't thought far enough ahead to see that the money they are paying goes straight to pay for Chinese hypersonic missile development and for more bribing of African countries to support China, and for more economic and military confidence for Xi. Yet all they can see is a cheap saw.

    • @BeatstormX
      @BeatstormX 2 года назад

      Just buy originals

  • @ryansalera
    @ryansalera 2 года назад +7

    Had my eye on one these for a few months now, cool to see more content on RUclips about these saws.

    • @jackslate9152
      @jackslate9152 2 года назад

      Identical to the name brand and literally can use their parts. Only bits I've heard to check if having issues been the coils and carb. Mainly coils by a ton. Oe coil replacement and tune it

  • @hdhhc5555
    @hdhhc5555 2 года назад +11

    Love the videos!!! I bought a g660 over a month ago. It's working great so far . Knock on wood! Lol I really like it actually. I am a stihl guy but can't afford that big saw from stihl.

  • @macksmith7529
    @macksmith7529 2 года назад +5

    I have a G660 3rd generation that has about 6 tanks of gas through it. From the store it ran rich and I left it there for two tanks and leaned it some. It’s running strong on 24 to 30 inch rounds so far.

  • @thechef33
    @thechef33 2 года назад +57

    Even though it wasn’t stock I was honestly surprised how well that saw held up, especially after attaching the 32” bar. A good chain on a shitty saw goes a long way.

    • @aaronm.3581
      @aaronm.3581 2 года назад +16

      It's not a shitty saw though.

    • @eriksforestryvision8751
      @eriksforestryvision8751 2 года назад +1

      @@aaronm.3581 They're a little shity... Design is mainly what makes them worth a damn;)

    • @jimnaz5267
      @jimnaz5267 2 года назад

      EVERY DOLLAR YOU SPEND ON A CHINESE PRODUCT, BUYS ANOTHER CHINESE BULLET TO KILL AMERICANS WAKE UP.

    • @pallmall5495
      @pallmall5495 2 года назад +4

      @@eriksforestryvision8751 I agree.Nobody would buy a Poulan Wild Thing clone made by a fairly new company in China.Numbers like 660 and 372 xp are the selling point.Along with price of course.

    • @jimmylarge1148
      @jimmylarge1148 Год назад +7

      @@eriksforestryvision8751 seems to me it starts, cuts trees down and then turns off just like the Stihl would.

  • @wodenswheelgun3278
    @wodenswheelgun3278 2 года назад +7

    This comment is not relevant to the saw, but I wanted to say last year my m390 blew up and I replaced it with a m462-cm and immediately put WCS dogs and barkbox on it. After cutting with for a season I'm a customer for life. Gordy makes excellent products that actually perform as intended and described.

    • @GuiltyofTreeson
      @GuiltyofTreeson  2 года назад +5

      Yeah he is a man of integrity for sure I love his products, he’s a friend of mine

    • @Bixby-and-Buckshot
      @Bixby-and-Buckshot 2 года назад

      @@GuiltyofTreeson I just wish he’d make stuff for Husky’s!

  • @Whoppels
    @Whoppels 2 года назад +5

    I picked up a g660 about 2 years ago for home use. I've not had a single issue with it. Always starts, runs well, hasn't failed me at all. My buddy got one and had some fuel leaks he needed to fix right away.

  • @CloudfeatherRusticWorks
    @CloudfeatherRusticWorks Год назад +16

    From what I've seen with these and the NeoTec, they seem like they'd be good for people who need bigger saws occasionally, but can't justify the $1000-1500 price point of a Stihl. Plus, I think they'd be a good option for a saw that you can upgrade with better parts here and there over time...

    • @jonnyg9330
      @jonnyg9330 Год назад +1

      Yeah but the thing is you’ll have the Stihl forever….I have my dads 066 and 660 magnum both still run well and I barely cut wood

    • @diavalus
      @diavalus Год назад +1

      @@jonnyg9330 I have a 036 from my father in law, small chainsaw but he used it to cut trees in the forest and get it ready to warm up the house. Nowadays, I use it for the same stuff. You pay once, but you use it for a long time. The chinese one I used to have didn’t last more than 5 years.

    • @MrMotor11
      @MrMotor11 Год назад

      This point is exactly why i just purchased a China 660. Hit with a tornado about 14 treee down in my yard i can cut up myself rather than pay someone else (especially since insurance wont pay for it). So after that the saw may sit for years. No point in going all-in for a Stihl for incidental usage

  • @JohnWilliams-junglejohnny
    @JohnWilliams-junglejohnny 2 года назад +1

    Got me a 660 blue boy , also have 4 of the real ones . Blue boy in box till rainy day . Got my son the 372 blue boy . And he has had no problems with it . Always been a husky , jonsered guy . Loving the 2165. And 2172 ,great saws in my book . Finaly broke down got a 462cm . After 30 trees down with it . I’m thinking this is now my favorite saw . At 58 and 138 lbs .my 661 all day gets to my little hips and shoulder . The suspension in 462 is incredible . As for the blue boys ,put oem chain tensioner , better spikes . And if carb needs adjusting a lot . Buy the walbro or tillotson real carb for it and you should not have any issues . Can’t say it’s as good as stihl or husky , but price wise , with new carb and tensioner . For weekend guy it’s no brainer .its literally a third of the price from real. But it’s not quite a real one .

  • @frankensteinracing3520
    @frankensteinracing3520 2 года назад +14

    The little bottle they come with is a mixing bottle. They work really well if you only need a bit of fuel or need to mix a richer or leaner mix for something specific. Edit as a stihl technician. I’ve seen brand new 462 500 and 390 blown up after a few hours.

  • @hhlumberjacktx
    @hhlumberjacktx 2 года назад +56

    You can definitely tell Mitch has been behind a stump a few times. Great job guys!

    • @74KU
      @74KU Год назад +2

      You can tell he wont be behind to many more if he keeps ignoring basic safety.

    • @daviddavidson4496
      @daviddavidson4496 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@74KU real ones log bare chested in flip flops

    • @74KU
      @74KU 8 месяцев назад

      @@daviddavidson4496 Indeed

  • @tungus951
    @tungus951 2 года назад +5

    I gotta say for a 76cc compared to a ported 96 it carried that aggressive chain without bogging much, just wanna see long-term use and overall life expectancy of a knock off

    • @blayden_1n44
      @blayden_1n44 2 года назад +3

      We’ve had ours for about a year and a half and it’s been put through hell and still going strong, we like it better than our stihl saws

    • @derrickjohnson9692
      @derrickjohnson9692 2 года назад

      @@blayden_1n44 do use it daily? For hard use like rpms maxed for 6 to 8+ hours? Just wondering if I should grab one for a cheap back up but if it can't keep up in the woods logging its not worth it so I'm lookin for opinions

  • @buzzkillzine8536
    @buzzkillzine8536 Год назад +1

    I remember have a big branch come down over our drive way years ago and my chainsaw was in for repairs and I was so broke and desperate to get the branch off the drive way that I spent $90 on a small budget chainsaw. It cut up the branch great but then never started again after that.

  • @brianquigley7336
    @brianquigley7336 2 года назад +6

    Looks like the Chiner saw did ok. I have an 046 Stihl that I've been running for 27 years. Starter ropes and clutches are the only thing it's ever needed, besides routine maintenance. It has thousands of hours on it. Still runs great and has 135 lbs of compression. I'll run it till she blows. Might buy a Chiner saw.

    • @scotthackett4500
      @scotthackett4500 2 года назад

      I have an 1970's 045 that I inherited from my father .she still is a Runner too

    • @eddieb4227
      @eddieb4227 2 года назад

      You out of Forks?

    • @brianquigley7336
      @brianquigley7336 2 года назад

      @@eddieb4227 Ha ! I'm in North Bend, but I went to school in Forks. Lived there till I was19 n moved to North Bend. Good guess. Forks, WA, logging Capitol of the world!

    • @eddieb4227
      @eddieb4227 2 года назад

      @@brianquigley7336 I thought so. When did you leave?
      I know the Quigley from there.

    • @eddieb4227
      @eddieb4227 2 года назад

      @@brianquigley7336 once a spartan, always a spartan!

  • @user-py9gj5xy9y
    @user-py9gj5xy9y 5 месяцев назад

    I got mine 2 years ago. My only problem so far was the chain tensioner. It was pot metal. I put a stihl tensioner in it. No more problems. With anything else. Im a happy customer. Saved 900$

  • @tomasjosefvela1
    @tomasjosefvela1 2 года назад +3

    UGH!!! missed the raffle!! It's ok though really loving the new channel, thanks for sharing all the fun and really great info/instruction/tech tips.

  • @carlstanoyevic3070
    @carlstanoyevic3070 2 года назад +1

    I’ve got a 92cc 28”bar it’s a beast cut lots of fire wood With it have a friend blew his up right away . Started it up set cold saw in big wood and ripped on it cold every time. Lasted about four hours, right at the exhaust wiped out cylinder wall.

  • @andrewscott2866
    @andrewscott2866 2 года назад +22

    That Mitch has mad skills! Great video Jacob, your editing just keeps getting better and better 👍 👍

  • @JohnSmith-pn1vv
    @JohnSmith-pn1vv 6 месяцев назад +1

    @25:45 great advice, after watching your vids I tackled a few smaller gum trees all leaning on a hill. They kept falling the opposite way which was not a problem as we were in the bush and knew it was going that way. Great tip to avoid that

  • @GPOutdoors
    @GPOutdoors Год назад +3

    Enjoyed the video - you folks are having way too much fun. Really appreciate the narrative explaining why you do things the way you do. Cheers and all the best!

  • @scottperine8027
    @scottperine8027 2 года назад +11

    Happy to help you out (💰) and I really love this channel,it covers all aspects of the tree removal process. Good luck to everyone that entered the raffle.

  • @keithsnodgrass592
    @keithsnodgrass592 Год назад

    Mine 466 blow Cylinder gasket about 30 min from being brand new. Started the same way the idle kept getting higher and higher. Almost Seized the piston. Stock gasket was paper changed it to a stihl steel gasket. Runs like a champ now. I recommend changing the cylinder gasket. Before you write

    • @1unitedredneck
      @1unitedredneck 11 месяцев назад +1

      Or do a base gasket delete. Most of these have too much squish anyway

  • @joshuasoom7960
    @joshuasoom7960 2 года назад +9

    i bought the 372xp clone 3 years ago and the 272 clone 2 years ago have ran the saws hard maintained them never had a single issue im gonna be buying more soon probably the mt200 clone to replace my actual mt200 i love the holzfforma saws and you can replace parts on them with oem sthil and husky parts also might get the same saw you have in this video keep up the good content!!!

  • @SwitchUpYt
    @SwitchUpYt Год назад +2

    36:00 the MOST satisfying cut I've seen haha

  • @Robnord1
    @Robnord1 2 года назад +7

    Thanks for the fun video, and for *not* being yet another gear snob who labels these blue saws trash without even owning one. 👍 I got the G388 (038 mag clone) a couple of months ago. Besides an easy repair to the kill switch it's been great.

    • @thechef33
      @thechef33 2 года назад +1

      Agreed. Obviously for these guys it’s important to have top tier equipment but the average homeowner doesn’t need a $1,000 saw lol.

  • @timothywilliams2021
    @timothywilliams2021 2 года назад

    I built one of their 660 kit saws last year. Also upgraded to their big bore kit. Big box of parts with no instructions. And no labels on parts or hardware. Lot of fun and some frustration.
    Couple of issue's. Had to replace a few parts right off the bat before running. The carb was junk. No amount of tuning helped. Replaced with a stock 660 carb. Few other small parts got replaced.
    Run's strong. Seems reasonable reliable. Leaks a little gas and oil. I'm sure I'll blow it up or break something sooner or later. But stihl fun to build.

  • @muskyman1018
    @muskyman1018 Год назад +4

    Really enjoyed the vid, I’ve considered one of the blue thunders for milling, and as a power pull power head. I haven’t done a lot of falling in recent years, so fun to see some techniques I never even knew about. Stay safe.

  • @strydyrhellzrydyr1345
    @strydyrhellzrydyr1345 Год назад +1

    Man.. I'm sooo sorry for your loss... I'm gonna start watching this channel now... And forever

  • @baileyneumann7986
    @baileyneumann7986 2 года назад +3

    The only thing to replace on them is the decompression valve they arent as well made as the stihl ones and if they fall apart they put a beating on the piston

  • @johnnyshell2839
    @johnnyshell2839 2 года назад +1

    So for a china saw to not suck it needs a Gordy tune and a Mitch sharpened chain plus the goodies from west coast.

  • @aubreyferris6546
    @aubreyferris6546 2 года назад +22

    I’ve said it before but I would really love a review on the 592 as well! I prefer your reviews because the saw actually gets used and worked instead of cutting a few cookies.
    Thanks for another great video - they keep getting better and better 😀

  • @garykirk1968
    @garykirk1968 2 года назад +2

    I have one of the 660s, and for the little I use it, works great.
    One thing I would say is to run it a little thicker on oil than a Stihl. The tolerances in the factories that produce these things is nowhere near as tight.

  • @benjobello
    @benjobello 2 года назад +7

    Jake you make some great videos man!! Thanks for all the info on your falling and the saws!! It’s so helpful

    • @jimnaz5267
      @jimnaz5267 2 года назад

      EVERY DOLLAR YOU SPEND ON A CHINESE PRODUCT, BUYS ANOTHER CHINESE BULLET TO KILL US... WAKE UP.

  • @richardtutor8331
    @richardtutor8331 Год назад

    I have an old 066 stihl that still runs great . I wouldn't have any other kind . It works great for limbing , topping, bucking cutting down and just about anything you want to do.

  • @codycrabtree3684
    @codycrabtree3684 2 года назад +6

    I would of loved an update on this saw after a few weeks of use

  • @AaronTheViking250
    @AaronTheViking250 2 года назад +1

    Always remember when u are bucking, always do your compression cuts first before doing anything else, just pointing that out for future reference.

  • @tommytwotone81
    @tommytwotone81 2 года назад +6

    Always better off being safe ( the hollow tree ) I was thinking about buying one of those blue saws myself so this was a great video for me thank you.

  • @only1silver1
    @only1silver1 Год назад +1

    I bought the ms201 Clone. And I can tell you from experience in order to be like a true ms201 you have to buy an aftermarket carburetor or a stihl replacement.. the current carburetor just bogs down and doesn't do well. But with the replacement on it's almost identical

    • @the-stickman
      @the-stickman Год назад

      Where could you get the aftermarket carbs?

  • @Pharphette
    @Pharphette 2 года назад +4

    Thanks for another great hour of entertainment, Jake! Barkbox, isn’t that also a dog toy subscription box service? lol

  • @coastalcleaningandmaintena2884

    That's how long it's been didn't even know they had lite bars. I was always Oregon power match. Ridden down mountains. I currently got a contract for a clean-out and they had a 72 inch was the biggest all the way down to a 48. I'm cleaning em up and did the 72 and no problem still useable unit. Gotta be 70 years old

  • @dianncharlan5648
    @dianncharlan5648 2 года назад +5

    I think it is so great that you get to travel and check out how other men like Mitch work. I am sure you learn something new everywhere you go. Great job!

  • @blagdaross5953
    @blagdaross5953 2 года назад +1

    I bought a new Blue Max chainsaw (also chinese) off a neighbor several years ago for $120. He got 2 by accident but only paid for 1 and sold me the extra one. I rarely need to use a chainsaw so I wasn't too worried about it. Never had any issues with it. Still have it and it works. The saw in this video looks almost exactly like it, blue and all. Probably made by the same factory.

  • @johnw3794
    @johnw3794 2 года назад +3

    Just watching you two it's so informative. Really see some cool methods on falling. Like how you jab the blade in the back so it leaves a safety hold... then cut the back fully til it falls. One thing I didn't know is. Calling any chainsaw stock... never knew chainsaws can be beefed up so much and modded

    • @napaindian62
      @napaindian62 Год назад

      That’s called a boring back cut.

  • @mrtree1368
    @mrtree1368 2 года назад +1

    If really needed to save money just buy a old ms 390 or the newer ms 391it cost around 500 or 600 and it's the " homeowner" saw that can be used professionally it can handle a 28 inch bar just won't be as fast as the 1000 saw .

  • @StihlChainsaws
    @StihlChainsaws 2 года назад +4

    I appreciate the fall that was takin to get that good angle down the log😁👍. 99% of viewers will never understand the forethought & effort it takes to put together an entertaining video. The excessive amount of preplanning & extra work that goes into just recording these videos is insain, and that's not including the crazy amount of time it takes to edit a video.
    Good stuff, but I'll stick to my orange & white saws.
    Use whatever it takes to get it done though....
    STAY SAFE

  • @Ramdodge582
    @Ramdodge582 2 года назад +1

    21:20 And 4 weeks of heat for my house went down to be trash.

  • @Swerly1985
    @Swerly1985 2 года назад +3

    Unreal work men!.love this video. Bin dumping decent alders for five yrs now and never tried a plunge..I am super inexperienced and can’t wait to limit my barber chairs next year .

  • @charlesselby3559
    @charlesselby3559 Год назад +1

    Great content. Just watch out starting the saw with the chain break off dude, then reving straight away after the pull.

  • @aaronvaneps7110
    @aaronvaneps7110 2 года назад +3

    I gotta be honest, you really do need to do a review of the Husqvarna 592. I'm looking to buy one, and I'd really rather you do the leg work to see if its worth it. :-) I trust you more than anyone else around these parts.

  • @AP2020_Outdoors
    @AP2020_Outdoors 2 года назад +2

    @Guilty of Treeson. Great video Jake. Daymn....that Cedar was GONE!! into the ravine = crazy hinge wood on that one! That was a cool face cut Mitch did = plunge face ✂️, never saw that before. We need to start a gofundme to get Mitch a Warne fiberglass step 🪜 💯🇺🇸😅

  • @n.p.winters
    @n.p.winters 2 года назад +6

    Thanks for the video. I purchased an 090 clone years ago when I started to slab but low on funds and found that they perform very poorly after a while of cutting. Could get through a few slab but was a fight to continue once it was hot. If you got to get cutting, go for it but take some time and save for a real saw.

  • @rerolley
    @rerolley 2 года назад +1

    I finally remembered where I saw some of this before, the live stream back in March. Great carvings from the old stumps.

  • @thomaspoole7932
    @thomaspoole7932 2 года назад +5

    Hey I’m in Wildland firefighting and we’ve been using and abusing the 592 Xp and the weight to power is impressive in my opinion the only problem we’ve had is recently it’s been having a slow leak of gas coming from the motor

    • @barrettmills856
      @barrettmills856 2 года назад

      I’ve waited all year for one and when they finally came I I told my dealer I’ll wait a few months to see what issues arise and let Husqvarna patch that up before I drop the money on one they fixed up issues on the 572 after the first release and I picked up one and had zero issues that were reported . I’m going to give it a few months and see on the 592 but man it was a nice saw you demo the other day

    • @alecmclean9178
      @alecmclean9178 2 года назад

      My 562 does the same thing.

    • @mattfleming86
      @mattfleming86 2 года назад +2

      Wildland firefighting... I mean if the saw scatters gas everywhere that's some next level job security.

  • @amoruzz
    @amoruzz 11 месяцев назад

    What's really amazing is that both young men walked away without being attacked by an angry squirrel tribe. 🐿 🐿 🐿
    I was listening for "chatter" and heard nothing. 👍

  • @JasonBritt
    @JasonBritt 2 года назад +3

    I think you're finding your groove again! Enjoying seeing all the different people and areas you're visiting. I like gear reviews like this where you just use it and can compare to the name brand or pro version.

    • @jimnaz5267
      @jimnaz5267 2 года назад

      EVERY DOLLAR YOU SPEND ON A CHINESE PRODUCT, BUYS ANOTHER CHINESE BULLET TO KILL US... WAKE UP.

  • @napaindian62
    @napaindian62 9 месяцев назад

    Yup bought a 660 clone 6 years ago for 80 dollars. Built it learned an enormous amount about saw construction. It was an invaluable learning experience. On top of that I got a great saw. That thing is still kicking. Is it a stihl? Nope. Does it run like a stihl? Yup. Will it last like a stihl mmmm probably not. But for 80 bucks I got a killer saw.

  • @korygrandy6133
    @korygrandy6133 2 года назад +3

    One of my fac vids so far lol. The t shirt is great. I feel more human knowing you also stumble off logs lol. My clone 660 has a little bit of a metal ring to it after break-in but it's still stump cuttin like the little engine that could

  • @jbbrown7907
    @jbbrown7907 11 месяцев назад +1

    I always liked it when they said
    All these must go.

  • @michaelwhiteoldtimer7648
    @michaelwhiteoldtimer7648 2 года назад +13

    Those clone saws have come a long way in the last few years, for the firewood guy the cost is pretty good

    • @robertrichter6936
      @robertrichter6936 2 года назад

      Maybe you should move to China if you love their equipment that much & take Biden with you so you can further their economy or destroy it.

  • @judgetk8327
    @judgetk8327 7 месяцев назад

    In the beginning I was thinking that saw looks awful small and then I found out I was comparing it to a monster Mitch. Lol. You guys make it look easy.

  • @ronaldosanchez3292
    @ronaldosanchez3292 2 года назад +7

    This is really cool, it would be awesome to see how it ran with a stihl or aftermarket carb, even after he adjusted it, it still didn't sound right on the top end honestly

    • @michaelweymouth4015
      @michaelweymouth4015 Год назад +2

      I thought top end sounded off too. I buy used stihl off Facebook yard sale and I purchased a bunch of new replacement carbs and just bolt on. Real ez and cheap plus they’re still (Stihl) orange. Lol

    • @papakernz
      @papakernz Год назад

      Sounded like it was 4 cycling or was hitting a rev limiter???

  • @logicalguy488
    @logicalguy488 Год назад +1

    You guys are awesome I can watch you work all day. Great sense of humor plus I learnt a lot. Thanks.

  • @wallywallydingbat
    @wallywallydingbat 2 года назад +5

    Some fantastic shots of the shock-wave when driving wedges in this video. Awesome stuff guys!

  • @Eric-gi9kg
    @Eric-gi9kg 2 года назад

    THEE BEST SOUND (other than a tuned saw)..the creeeek as the tree falls

  • @dire67
    @dire67 2 года назад +6

    You guys make this stuff look easy. Any novice (like me) who's tried to use a chainsaw knows exactly what I'm talking about.

    • @iffykidmn8170
      @iffykidmn8170 2 года назад +1

      Everyone is a novice in the beginning.

    • @rwc2504
      @rwc2504 2 года назад

      Yeah I'm a "keep them farm cleaned up" chainsaw operator and blew my nephews mind when I started talking directional cuts and holding wood while dropping some dead ash trees recently. Thanks GOT for making me appear to be the great tree wizard LOL

    • @dire67
      @dire67 2 года назад +1

      @@rwc2504 my mind would be blown too if I knew what all that meant in the first place.

    • @MeltingRubberZ28
      @MeltingRubberZ28 Год назад

      @Abe Tuaone he has a video explaining the cuts and stuff. Well worth the time if you ever find yourself with a chainsaw in your hands.

  • @patrickrobinson59
    @patrickrobinson59 Год назад

    Well it didn't blow up on the first tree.......I am a foreman on a large ranch/orchard....the saw I use as a carry everywhere saw is a Ryobi......if needed we bring the husky .....but that little saw has been run hard for about 3 years now......4 bars and about 10 chains......it's more then earned it's keep

  • @somemusic789
    @somemusic789 2 года назад +3

    Awesome video, and I love how you take the time to explain everything you did and why.

  • @joelhartman4595
    @joelhartman4595 2 месяца назад

    I bet these guys like playing with eachothers wood, most flamboyant tree cutters

  • @scotthuydic9137
    @scotthuydic9137 2 года назад +3

    Hey Jacob I love your channel, keep up the good work man! Nice to see someone put videos up of saw actually being used for more than just making biscuits

    • @jimnaz5267
      @jimnaz5267 2 года назад

      EVERY DOLLAR YOU SPEND ON A CHINESE PRODUCT, BUYS ANOTHER CHINESE BULLET TO KILL US... WAKE UP.

  • @laneclaypool8005
    @laneclaypool8005 Год назад

    If you need dogs, your chain is dull. A properly sharpened chain on a saw that size will pull you into the wood. One other thing to check if the chain isn't pulling you into the wood is flair on the bar itself. Flair is a result of using dull chains.

  • @donr4582
    @donr4582 2 года назад +22

    Lol, think I'll stick to German made or Sweden made. As Americans we need to stop buying Chinese anyhow.great vid bro .

    • @soulstarr4998
      @soulstarr4998 2 года назад

      I'm with you on that one but the only thing is everything that you touch including the thing that you left the comment with is all made in China so I like to see how you can get around that I'm all about f****** China but it's nearly impossible China's got us by the balls it's only facts... Much love 🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️

    • @devildigger1404
      @devildigger1404 Год назад +1

      You got dat right !!!!!

    • @firebug8460
      @firebug8460 10 месяцев назад +1

      Well when so Stihl then , it’s co owned and Chinese parts . Just saying unless it’s the older Stihl saws . Not saying there bad but just saying

    • @b85douglas
      @b85douglas 8 месяцев назад

      Good luck

  • @leifvejby8023
    @leifvejby8023 2 года назад +1

    Funny to see metal hats - I can't remember when I last saw metal hats here, but it must be 40 - 45 years ago!

    • @GuiltyofTreeson
      @GuiltyofTreeson  2 года назад +1

      My helmet I’m wearing is getting the 1940s :)

    • @jimurrata6785
      @jimurrata6785 2 года назад

      @@GuiltyofTreeson You look like Smokey the Bear. 🤣

  • @tomaschmelik8838
    @tomaschmelik8838 2 года назад +5

    Nice video, enjoy this kind of videos, not that the "usual job" ones were bad or anything. I have a real qustion, is there even a quality american chainsaw brand? Since Stihl is german, Husqvarna is swedish and Echo is japanese i can´t think of any. (I live in Europe where "made in germany" means a bit more than "made in the USA" tbh)

    • @alanmeyers3957
      @alanmeyers3957 Год назад +1

      Unfortunately not anymore, Mcculloch was American and at the time was amongst the best but they’re long gone.

  • @rtoguidver3651
    @rtoguidver3651 Год назад

    Holzfforma 76.5cc Blue Thunder G466 Gasoline Chain Saw is $320 then add the bar $120 & chain $30 to that..
    It's the long Gevity that counts, if a $600 Stihl will last twice as long, then it's a better buy..

  • @colvinwellborn
    @colvinwellborn 2 года назад +4

    It's worth noting that the Chinese make everything. This includes many (or all) of the OEM parts for the name brands. The Chinese don't make crap, they make the best stuff in the world, the worst stuff in the world, and everything in between. It's just that the nice stuff is rebranded with some name brand company and the crap is left with the Chinese branding.

    • @GuiltyofTreeson
      @GuiltyofTreeson  2 года назад +2

      Yeah I think there’s a lot of truth to that, for instance DJI drones are extremely well made and the tech is really advanced. I think your comment nailed it, they make good, bad and everything in between. Although this cheap Stihl knockoff chainsaw isn’t helping the cheap Chinese product stereotype 😂

    • @ericharris893
      @ericharris893 2 года назад

      I believe your right on the money.

    • @Brian-gt4wz
      @Brian-gt4wz 2 года назад

      a lot of Stihl parts are made in china. Stihl saws (besides pro saws) are made entirely in china

    • @glennmaynard7233
      @glennmaynard7233 2 года назад +2

      @@Brian-gt4wz Wrong! You should come here to Virginia Beach to the Stihl facility that produces everything Stihl that's not made in Germany.

    • @douglasscott_pronounced_Mike
      @douglasscott_pronounced_Mike 2 года назад

      @@glennmaynard7233 Stihl chainsaws are manufactured in the United States and China. The company has a facility in Virginia Beach, Virginia, and Qingdao, China way to talk out of your ass most of the Stihl home saws are made in China

  • @ethanwatters8704
    @ethanwatters8704 Месяц назад

    Mitch's saw eats through that tree like a hot knife in butter!

  • @crabmansteve6844
    @crabmansteve6844 2 года назад +3

    This guy (Mitch) always has the sharpest hottest saws it seems.
    Every time he's been in a video his saws eclipse everyone else's. I want to know exactly what he's done to them.
    Can anyone tell me why timber fellers out West seem to leave such a high stump?
    Is it because the mill doesn't want the end with butt swell? Or does it have something to do with the sap collecting at the base of the tree.