The Twin Children of The Vision and the Scarlet Witch - The Origin of Wiccan and Speed
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2021
- On this extra length episode of History of the Marvel Universe, we're looking at the relationship between The Vision and the Scarlet Witch as well as the origin of Wiccan and Speed!
Sources:
Avengers 91 (1971)
Avengers 93 (1971)
Avengers 107-108 (1973)
Giant-Size Avengers 4 (1975)
Thor 243-244 (1975)
Thor 282 (1979)
Avengers 253-254 (1985)
Fantastic Four 277 (1985)
Vision and the Scarlet Witch 1-12 (1985-1986)
West Coast Avengers 4 (1986)
West Coast Avengers 37 (1988)
West Coast Avengers 42-45 (1989)
Avengers: West Coast 47 (1989)
Avengers: West Coast 50-53 (1989)
Avengers: West Coast 55-57 (1990)
Avengers: West Coast 60-62 (1990)
Avengers 348 (1992)
Avengers 360 (1993)
Avengers 367 (1993)
Avengers Forever 8 (1999)
Avengers 500-503 (2004)
House of M 1-8 (2005)
Young Avengers #1-12 (2005-2006)
Young Avengers Special 1 (2006)
Avengers: The Children's Crusade 1-9 (2010-2012)
Additional information from the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe.
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#Marvel #WandaVision #Avengers - Развлечения
No soap opera could ever compete with a comic book story
SURE COULDN'T!!!!!!! TRUTH BEING TOLD!!!!!!
Shhhhh, my stories are one!
@@thomp9054 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I always say comic books is a geeks soap opera. I came to that conclusion growing up. My mother love soaps and they always detailed the last episode and i hated that. When I got older I realized i was the same way with saturday cartoons when they said... "Previous... On Xman" lol
Secret Wars had so many twists and turns for Magneto, Doom, Galactus, Cap, Wasp, Colossus, Klaw, Ultron, etc
This may be the plot for WANDAVISION AND DOCTOR STRANGE: MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS.
Possibly a part of the plot but definitely not the entire plot . There are not enough factors that have been put into place thus far for this to happen. BuT there may be some similarities as there are in many of the marvel movies to comic stories. Time will tell.
AAAAAAAAAND SpiderMan 3, they all gonna be topsy turvey
Lol
There may still be a happy ending for Wanda as she’ll be reunited with her husband and kids
So it's mephisto
FOR THE CHILDREN...
For the children!
@@MerryMarvelite 😆 We must HARNESS(Agatha Harkness) our mutual abilities and energies into CREATING These New SUPREME BEINGS . " NO! , MORE! MUTANTS. "
Comic book things are not always for the children. To be honest, comic books were first more explicit for children that the comic book editors and government told the authors to make their comics more suitable for the children.
@@jasminebolten3290 dude it's a line from wandavision
@@jasminebolten3290 chill lmao
It’s like studying for a test. These videos/ the comics are the homework and the movies and tv shows are the tests.
Me too I'll be watching all this videos to get the order and storyline in the comics
I swear I put more effort into studying marvel than school
@@hassanatudyfan7652 it’s the reality we hope is right around the corner
Yeah... listening to this one time is not going to cut it. Think I need MCU Geography 101 just to remember all the fictional names and places let alone a genealogy course!
Yeah, no.... the movies and tv shows aren't the test, if you want to make that analogy. That's just a crap analogy in the 1st place. The comics are the homework and the test. The movies and shows are unremarkable compared to the comics. They're an incoherent mess. Shameful at best. Not that comics are high literature but despite them being perceived as being "for kids", they often include some provocative writing, touching on topics like racism, classism, societal ills, humanism etc. and the movies just miss all the nuance. Oh well, people eat it up.
WandaVision = Avengers: Disassembled + House of M.
If Wanda gets angry, We're all doomed.
House of M is weird tho considering there are no mutants
Reverse House of M, instead of ridding the world of mutants she's going to introduce mutants into the MCU
@@CreamyFire true.
@@CreamyFire reverse Decimation?
I hope we can see Billy and Tommy as young adult in the near MCU series or movies. I love Wiccan and speed, especially Wiccan
Especially if they do Wiccan and Hulkling.
I'm pretty sure Wiccan got electrokinesis from his Mutant side while he got his magic from his mother!
Billy in de comics doesn't have his mom's power he is a reincarnated god named Demiurge with reality warping powers stronger than the Scarlet witch if he is really a mutant is pretty vague. Electrokinesis is Wiccan's reality warping powers cuz he is a asgardian fanboy lol.
Yeah he gets his power from electrolyte's..........
@@boywithnoname4079 naw
@@cosmicfive7860 This is canon don’t be ignorant lol
@@boywithnoname4079 which comics what title me wanna read
Who else is watching Wandavision?
I'm enjoying it a lot!
Me 🙋🏾♂️ I’m liking it
I’m watching it! Good show
Me
Where can I watch it? We don't have Disney+ 😭😭😭
I feel like Speed should eventually develop a new personality other than the default dc speedster personality they gave him. Also I don't care what anyone says Speed is still a mutant.
I feel like he will since he's just a hyper excited kid for the time being.
That's right he's just a pietro knockoff most of the time, while Billy always gets all the attention
@@homorockerbloguero5079
Yeah dude even got to be fucking sorcerer supreme in a future timeline
@@homorockerbloguero5079 well we didn’t see pietro much much so i won’t care if he has at least tye quicksilver personality
@2freeIvX
In current continuity yes but that doesnt mean its good writing to divorce her from the x-men side which pretty much shaped half her character
I feel like Billy and Hulklings relationship is going to turn into the first gay superhero wedding in the MCu
Spider-man: WHAT'S GOING ON HERE
Wiccan: breakfast
Here's to hoping
@@dans4129 hope
They are married! they got married in Empyre
Plot twist is Disney forces them to use she hulk instead
I love that SOMEHOW Scarlet Witch has a more complicated backstory than a synthizoid copy of the original android Human Torch and the brain patterns of a completely different person.
Well, Vision's pretty straightforward(sure there were time shenanigans and a bit of retcons but still) but Wanda has a whole lineage of magic and potential parentages behind her.
I’m glad this video came out. I had no idea she had real children. So when it came out in Wanda vision, I was so confused. So thank you for explaining it. Now I could make sense of the show
“A Hollywood actor who had crashed his KERR...losing his right ERM”..... I love Canadians....I’m dying 😂
I peeped that too. Erm?? WTH is an erm? lol but I just rolled with it since he was doing a great job telling the story😜
I thought I was the only one hearing that I was literally lmao
Ohhh i was wondering why he couldn't say arm! Duh! *smacks forhead*
I'm a Canadian 😃
Bravo on this one people totally forget about master pandemonium
I swear I’ll never get that image of the baby arms out of my head
Please someone give this man a raise or even better populate his channel or maybe put him on a TV show I love his voice whenever he's telling an origin like honestly I beg and crave for this mans channel gets on top 10 YT vids
I knew of Wiccan, had no idea there was a second one; talk about one sibling hogging the spotlight.
Because they made Speed a carbon copy of Quicksilver :/
same, I wish they gave tommy more character. it kinda annoys me that in the young avengers presents issues, they have wiccan and speed together. I feel like we should get to explore tommy's character a lot more in the comics. I mean, I adore billy, but tommy really is just a copy of quicksilver when he could be so much more. even looking at their superhero outfits, billy's takes inspiration from thor's and doctor strange's, whereas Tommy's is just quicksilver's but with orange goggles. tommy even says (in young avengers vol. 2, issue #6) that billy wanted him to take on the name of quicksilver, but he didn't want to because he wanted to be his own individual. perhaps they'll do more character building with tommy in the mcu, but I doubt it.
2:50 Poor Hawkeye, he fell in love with the Scarlet Witch and she marries a android. He falls in love with Mantis and she gets married to his mentor, the Swordsman.
As the saying goes, always the best man but never the groom. 🤣
I forgot how messed up crap Scarlet Witch went through. Her tale was truly tragic and understandable about having to endure loss and wanting to be happy.
Be safe and be 😎
I remember all this starting in West Coast Avengers...in the 80's!
Yay!! hope they give justice to Wiccan and Speed in the future. I would personally want to see a gay superhero
It needs to be done right or it ends up cw political trash.
Who's gay?
@@scpe7901 Wiccan is married to Hulkling and Speed is also bisexual, he’s dating Prodigy
@@scpe7901 Wiccan. Speed is bisexual
@@t__9119 Damn they both gay. I ain’t know hulkling was gay
This is a lot to process. My brain is bleeding...
Very complicated story. Sounds like Immortus would be a possible character to come to Wandavision.
Reckon it’s him actually watching them on the small screen!?
@@claytonsnelgrove8404 wasn't that Darcy?
@@rahbeeuh yeah it was
@@hair4571 thanks
i dont know about that, Wandavision has significantly changed the storyline.. not to mention the creation of The Vision is completely different in the MCU
The young avengers seem to be planned in a future MCU project. Can you just imagine having Wiccan and Hulkling, a gay couple in the MCU? That would be amazing!
I had to watch this twice to absorb all the information due to all the twist & turns in the storyline but I got it now. Totally worth both watches. ✔✔💯
I think we're going mad but it's working!
Damn now we know why nexus name was used in the episode 7 advertisement of wandavision... 9:44
they better keep them aft wanda’s breakdown esp wiccan i want the first official ✨gay✨ in the mcu in future movies 🥺
Y
Hope we get to see them as a couple in a young avengers show
tommy’s bisexual!! they would have both a gay character and a bi character if disney just. stopped being cowards
@@professional.procrastionat1041 or just not at all
@@TGC- wow so cool you voiced ur opinion!! unfortunately, i didn’t ask for it and the fact that you came to this comment to give your crap takes just proves that ur desperate for attention!! so with that said, please shut up and go make your own comment if you really need someone to pay attention to you
That full story is really a lot to digest!
Loved this! Man classic Marvel was so good. Young Avengers has a different feel but thank you Marvelite!
This is very similar to how they’re doing WandaVision, I love it
Wandavision is doing justice to one of the most iconic storylines in marvel comics
@@homorockerbloguero5079 lol
Lol
What I find cool is that both of them are in the lgbt community, Billy's gay and Tommy's bi
I really hope they show their sexuality.
@@kal928 why are you straight? Semes kinda odd to me
@@kal928 why not
K
@Evangeline Sterup (2025) your gay awakening was Korra???
I can't believe I finished your video and was so happy at the ending. The feeling of reuniting again with your family is priceless. I really love the Scarlet Witch and I'm also going to love Wiccan and Speed in the future.
Been waiting for this!
I hope you enjoy the video!
Love your podcast, Shannon Q!
this is one of the best summations of this complicated storyline i've yet encountered. great job. i'm sharing this with all my friends who are watching WandaVision.
Wanda is the right character to bring the multiverse together in mcu. If they decide to use that multiverse nexus concept. They could even play up her being magnetos deceased daughter in age of apocalypse or quicksilver sister from days of future past.
That’s the fox universe 😂
@@abbyanderson2463 yeah 😶 I know that. I was saying how it could bridge the gap. It's irrelevant now anyway.
@@abbyanderson2463 😆 smh
@@mangamegs ik but why would they wanna bring fox characters into the MCU. I feel like Feige would want creative control, and it just feels sloppy to me. I personally hope no one from the fox universe comes to the MCU.
@@abbyanderson2463 why tho?? i would love to see x men fight crime with marvel heroes
Finally she reunite with her children😭❤️❤️
This was awesome! Thank you for making this!!
Also....
I'm an old X-Men fan from way back. I've been an X man fan since the early 80's.I do my best to overlook wanda's sin but oh boy.... I get hot when I hear "no more mutants"
I can sympathize with why she did it, but I can't even imagine how horrible it would have felt to have your power suddenly stripped away from you.
if you read the comic, they basically say it wasn't her who did it. As per usual, when she does bad shit she's being controlled by something or someone else. In this case she was both being used as doom's personal charger and influenced by pure energy that gave her the power to alter reality to begin with. I'm not too happy with any of wanda's storylines because she never has agency but at least she didn't cause mutant genocide willingly.
I hate so much how they changed the parentage of Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver from Magneto to some D tier character because of the whole Fox/Disney thing but eventually they will return to the status quo that they once were one reason for saying is because and I know a lot don’t collect Marvel Legends action figures but they not too long ago came out with a Family Matters 3 pack with Magneto, Scarlet Witch, and Quicksilver and a lot of people may not know but all the figures that Hasbro makes and their relations has to be approved by Marvel Comics themselves and with the whole Fox merger deal that’s also a given that they’ll return as mutants and lastly in Wanda Vision Quicksilver returned but it wasn’t the MCU version it was the Fox version who is the son of Magneto but that’s just a few things but I really hope they return as Magneto’s children in the end
Keep these coming! Great work!
Wow! This was an AMAZING recap of Marvel comics history! Idk how you did it - this is almost 50 YEARS of history!
Thank you for this great video!
I am so thankful to have found this: when this story unfolded, I was not able to read it or follow it. I always wondered how everything played out and now I got to see it as if I had read it. THANK YOU.
Thank you so much for this. I can't wait to see how all this translate over to TV and movies!
Thank you. Your videos have been very informative
I'm glad you like them!
I like your content! No segways. Direct to the story.
I remember that 12 issue limited series that started it all. So much detail...delivered fantastically.
This is amazing. The story was laid out properly in a very short time. Some comic book explained viedos take hours to watch.
Thank you! I do my best to focus on the things that I think are interesting or relevant to the story and summarize the rest.
sitting down to watch this video after having finished Wandavision makes things SO MUCH more interesting! plus, this is one hell of a backstory
Bravo, good job man seriously.
The allegory (not a typo just a substitute word) of RUclips suggested I should watch your video and I decided to watch and subscribe! Good video, mate!
I always enjoy checking out your videos
thanks for this. truly!
This guy knows his stuff, good video
Fantastic recap!
Another excellent job. Thanks.
Thank you for saving me a lot of Pre-Young Avengers volume 1
reading :)
Amazingly great review !!
this was awesome you unraveled the confusion of her backstory through all the retcons lol. but yes cover the VISIONS next that was a crazy story.
Keep up the great work!
Love these videos.
Wow. Really good story telling mate. That was peachy. 👍
Great freaking video man👍🏾
This was such a beautiful story 🥺🥺
Great video !
Woah. Love it🔥🔥🔥
great video ..... thank you
Great video dude
...AH! IM AN IDIOT. Lego Marvel superheroes. The err, avengers one. Speed was like the character I used the most. THE MOST. I even used Wiccan every now and then. Then I watch Wanda vision. Good show, great show. I see the kids practically IN COSTUME and don't suspect a thing. Again, I'm an idiot
I STILL PLAY THAT GAME :0
Wiccan is my favorite character! This was a fantastic video! 😊👍🏼
now let us hope they cast a talented fine young actor for 'young avengers' and stay true to his relationship with hulkling. wonder how big the chances of that happening are
@@granville7 is so sad why have to be so scared of them straight washing them
But oh well fingers crossed
@@libragoddess98287 easy - maximising profits. #1 if it is marketed for kids and Wiccan/Hulkling are portrayed openly gay then some parents might object and the product flops at the box office. #2 worse: countries like China ban the whole thing and Marvel certainly wants to milk the Chinese market too.
lets hope Marvel managers show some backbone and allow it anyway. that would be so great
@@granville7 i know and that's what makes me sad like you already have ENOUGH money as it is, just give the representation which is deserved.
Wow that was great thank you
Well explained !!!!
Well Done Story Vid. Subscribed.
Awesome to watch this after WandaVision.
I really like your channel. Maybe more full story episodes
Am I the only one who ships Wiccan and hulkling....
aren’t they married?
Yeeey, the best couple ever
They got married with the biggest and fanciest wedding of the entire universe and the Marvel Comics. Believe me, Wiccan and Hulkling (Wickling) are one of the most popular and loved comic couples. We stan!
@@berkeilbars6379 YES
Wym ship they are married 💀
Wow!! I'm or was an avid comic book collector or graphic novels. I stopped literary 20 years ago so their is so much storyline I never had the chance to read. Now I finally get to know about the house of M and how all of earth's mutants disappeared. Thank you 😊..
Amazing!!
This was cool. Thanks.
Idk why I cried watching this. Like, imagine the suffering of a mother that lost her children, there's nothing they wouldn't do to get answers😭
Wow thank you so much for the story it's unbelievable the amount of information a comic book can give it's like so much imagination you really need to put your mind to absorb all do information just wow
Is flipping called it. I bloody knew billy was Wiccan, his Halloween costume looked really familiar and then it just clicked and boom !!!!!
@Mighty God Of Thy H*ps ik there weren't hiding it that much but I was just really excited. Sorry 😅
Tom Kings Vision was excellent! I am sure you would do an amazing job on it.
Great video.
Thanks!
Lots of reading to do over the weekend. I def have some research to do on these 2 seeing they are most definitely Young Avengers Bound
Damn you explained everything so well, now I'm more intrigue in reading Marvel comics
Thanks for the recommendations, I might look into it
I love the young avengers they are really awesome
You are the best.I have subscribed
For a second i thought i was watching discovery channel. The narrator sound legit
What a lovely ending, she finally got what she want.
Great vid new sub 👍🏾
Awesome
This feel like I watched the upcoming dr strange in the multiverse madness.
I ain’t never seen a more looped hole story in my life. This is what I call entertainment.
Wiccan and hulkling are perfect
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️well done!!!
If billy & tommy were really mephisto shards then why exactly are they fading away if wanda doesnt concentrate on them? They already have a power source outside of wanda
The MCU is changing story comics ..Still early though in series
We will learn about them in multiverse of madness.
@@erenakay8873 Wanda hasn’t come in contact with mephisto at all this ain’t the comics
Gosh wow...Love it....
Most interesting, indeed!
Thank you
Wow. That's one convoluted, continuity, comic history.
I think that was the most clear and simple explanation of the scarlet witch and her story ive heard so far. Good job :)