Looked about as juicy as the induction cooker with a little water and a controlled temperature selected for not drying out the meat a bit below the boiling point of water. The idea of moderating cooking temperatures with water is a good one... that I use with induction cooking.
You keep saying "atomized water." I assume this oven isn't actually breaking water down into individual hydrogen and oxygen atoms because that would be dangerous and unhelpful, so what exactly do you mean by atomized water? Because it sounds like it's just steam injection but the company wants to pretend it's doing something new.
I don't know if you say that as a little joke, but personally I find it to be a very clever way of doing the sponsorship properly but giving us good advise. Adam had no need of showing us the steak bit of the video. He does it because why not and then follows with a different thing completely, just after saying to us that if something is bad he wouldn't say anything but he wouldn't lie either. That part of the video is there probably just to inform us that the devide does not cook steak specially well.
@@mlseg5143 I'd give it the benefit of the doubt. Searing is just getting a lot of heat to the meat surface quickly. If this is done by direct contact to hot iron, transmitted via hot oil, and/or delivered by hot air, doesn't make much of a difference. If the machine can heat the air enough, possibly some oil wrapping of the steak itself, this might turn out to be great!
he's not going to risk losing customers to describing the danger of getting what is essentially an early-access appliance. Honestly it's probably for the best for Adam (financially) to do a kickstarter sponsor now, because the website and archetype is so old that most won't realize what they might get and how they'll be stuck with it. Although I find it infinitely hilarious he cares so much about talking around "air fryer" because it's "deceptive", but openly says blatantly untrue information about this product.
@@toilet_cleaner_mant’s sure easy to call something “blatantly untrue” without describing it. He said nothing untrue about the product and it’s not an “early access” product. It’s an exercise in marketing by a company that’s been in business for years and have brought many products to market including air fryers. There is always risk associated with kickstarter, but this could be one of the top least likely to fail.
It depends. There are two kinds of kickstarters. Those that need the funds for product development and start with just a concept or some prototypes and those that are an established business basically using kickstarter for marketing and pre orders. This looks like the latter and the risk for those is pretty low. Assuming they aren't just lying the lead time on this is short enough that product development has to already be finished.
Since they have a working product they are willing to ship to third party and let them use it unsupervised, I'd say there is limited risk they don't deliver. They can definitely make the thing, even if they can't make enough by the date they promised shipping.
Vinegar leg is on the right Why i season my board, not my steak Mirror universe and Long live the empire Tabeltop convection oven Anything else i miss?
Again. This is a Kickstarter. No matter how good this looks, if the unit you get is faulty, you have NO recourse. Dreo has a few products out in the market. But this final product hasn't been manufactured yet. It's a $259 risk.
Totes m'goats. Established companies that already have revenue using Kickstarter are at best desperate for marketing and at worst outsourcing R&D and growth investment through the public. It's sketchy enough if the seller is just some dude with a neat invention. It's even sketchier coming from a corporation marketing what they think is their next hit product.
There is a big difference between a company developing and manufacturing their very first product and a company who’s been around for a while and has been selling their products like air fryers for years. The odds are much higher this oven will actually get produced.
@@BravoCharleseshow is this “sketchier” than a single person “company” that’s never brought a product to market before? Peak Design used crowdfunding for a whole bunch of their products none of them sketchy. I’ve seen this oven in a bunch of cooking channels and after doing some research on the company I don’t see any red flags. I would have donated if I didn’t buy the Anova oven.
Wait a minute, Adam doesn’t like the term “airfryer” because it doesn’t literally fry with air but is ok with the term “chefmaker” even tho it doesn’t literally make chefs??? 😂🤣 😂
It is because that is the name of the product, not a description of what it is. They appear to describe it as a "combi fryer". Probably would struggle to get a VW in it though
How is atomizer misleading? Did you look the word up on Google? It’s spraying water into the cooking chamber. Steam is the gas form of water while atomized water is still water and not a gas. How do people just assume they know what something means when they’ve likely never heard the word before?
@@robertp457 The word atomizer is misleading because it doesn't split the water into atoms, simple as that. And don't try to argue with the ancient Greek definition of atom being the smallest part of something, I'm talking about atoms in modern scientific usage. Now, I know the word atomizer is used differently from what it would be if taken literally. But that is exactly the point, so is air fryer.
It has been for quite a while as a niche within the ultra expensive built-in ovens. Wolf, for example, makes nice ones, but they run $5000+. Similar top end brands also have them in that form factor for similar prices. Anova and some others have also been doing countertop models for a few years but those are intrinsically a tradeoff in many ways as all countertop ovens and stoves are. Anova seems to be the best countertop implementation currently in the stream of commerce, but that has a very different form factor than the Dreo being a full countertop oven rather than a large air fryer.
Adam: "I won't say 'air fryer' because you can't technically fry with air." Also Adam: "This is an atomizer for a substance that it does not actually break down into its constituent atoms." ...jk, all in good fun, language is weird and has more considerations than specific, literal etymological consistency
@_xeere that is one definition of atom. But your response is basically laying out my point, this is the exact type of ambiguity that I was allowing for in my "jk..." addendum - for instance, doesn't the common colloquial use of "fry" in this context give it the same leeway as these two different definitions of "atom" which allow it to be called an "atomizer"?
@@DirkDjently Obviously. It's an air-fryer because it fries using air as the heat transfer medium instead of oil. It would be silly to say either of those things aren't what they are.
@@_xeere The original meaning of atom is a thing that cannot be devided into parts. The irony of course being that the atomic theory was conclusively accepted in the scientific community after it was discovered that atoms consist of multiple parts.
@_xeere ok so what are you complaining about then? Lol It seems like you're just trying to argue about something that isn't what I was saying, by responding with something that doesn't meet your own necessary etymological standards.
Unless you've got more than 6, you'd be surprised how much food you can cook in one of those things. SortedFood did a sponsored video with them where they did a BUNCH of stuff.
@somefreshbread there's 5 of us but 2 of them are huge eaters. Of course they are also the thinnest... just crazy fast metabolism. My friends are always shocked at how much food they consume. 😂
@@somefreshbread Then don't add cream to you coffee! Good coffee is never bitter and thus does not require cream. (Or sugar, for that matter, because good coffee is also never sour.)
My problem with the smaller tabletop convection ovens (which I agree, is a better name than air fryer) is the lack of space. My dad got a much larger, like 10-in-1 "toaster oven" unit, it's about the size of two college dorm room microwaves stuck together end to end, and a little bit taller than a microwave, and it's SO MUCH better than smaller units, and way cheaper than getting a stationary, traditional oven/stove combo with a convection fan. Most of the oven/stove combos with convection that I've seen have pretty pitiful fans, anyways, and the ones with big enough fans to actually make a difference are priced accordingly. So unless I were to find one of those combo units (one that actually has an adequate fan) for the same price as a non-convection unit that has all of the features I want, or even cheaper, then I'll probably stick with one of the larger countertop ovens, and have my stove/oven combo be non-convection.
I'm not sure how the term air fryer is fat-phobic, deep fried food is objectively unhealthy so I dont see an issue offering a healthier alternative. Its not as if they're targeting fat people.
even if they were, is that a bad thing? Being unhealthy is an objectively bad thing for a person's continued survival and their overall happiness, is providing an aide to an issue a bad thing nowadays?
Man, I sure hope the kickstarter doesn't run into issues, for your sake. I don't know how many successful kickstarters you've backed, but they sure seem to have a high risk assosiacted with them.
There are very few kickstarters from already established companies that aren’t successful. Most of the unsuccessful crowdfunding campaigns are from people who’ve never brought a product to market before. It’s a lot more time consuming and expensive than most people realize which is why I don’t crowdfund anything from a startup or from anyone who’s never brought a good product to market before. This isn’t a startup company and they’ve been in business for many years and have been making air fryers in a similar form factor already.
@@robertp457 If they're so well established, why the need for a kickstarter? People need to understand that the company has no liability. Your money is not any safer than with a backyard engineer who wants to take some hairbrained invention to market. And people have lost money in the past and the companies haven't coughed up the money even when putting out a similar product later.
@@sntslilhlpr6601 This way they can gauge interest in the product before committing to mass production. This is getting more common than you might realize. If you look at the kickstarter yourself you would realize that this is fully guaranteed and warrantied for 30 months(12 months if you do not register the product). You would also have been able to read the updates that they have completed the 1st round of mass production and are doing quality control before shipping units(USA and Canada). This campaign is much safer than the umm backyard engineer - your money is safer because they will not take your payment until the campaign is over and they get your shipping details. The appliance is already completed and passed US/Canadian regulations.. They are still pending their UK certifications before going into production in the UK I get KickStater has had issue with some kickstarters in the past, but you can not and should not lump them all in together. What you get for being an early adopter is a discount on the suggested retail price they plan on going with. You also get one before others that will have to wait for production runs and distribution. You have to also consider the fact that Adam does not do sponsor ads for products that he ends up not liking. He said this in the video. Everyone (like myself included) can also just wait until it has been released and is out in the wild before deciding to buy this - if you were ever even considering buying such a appliance (which I am lol)
I agree, "air fryer" is a bad name...but an argument I see all the time is that it's "just a convection oven", and I would say that it is, in function, different from just a "convection oven". A convection oven just has a fan that blows around the already-heated air, which is great for ensuring even cooking throughout the oven's space. An "air fry" (or "European style convection") has a heat source behind the fan, so the air being blown is quite a bit hotter. I have a gas range and an electric countertop toaster-oven-style "air fryer", and both have both functions, and there's a HUGE difference between both of those functions in the results.
Strongly agree with this. Also, the tiny compact space of a "tabletop convection oven" means you have a LOT more air moving in relation to the size of the food. A traditional American convection oven has a small (in relation) fan in the back of the unit, whereas the air fryer is like 40% fan by volume. This results in far crispier food far faster (even without adding oil yourself) than you get in a traditional convection oven.
3:45 I also think the smaller body compartment of air helps a lot too. An oven has to first heat the air before it heats your food. The more air you have to heat, the slower the cooking will go. It would also mean some of the cooking happens at lower temperature, which is probably why the conventional oven is less brown.
Extremely suspicious of this thing honestly. You did the right thing in disclosing the sponsorship at the start of the video, but I've seen _other channels_ conspicuously not do that when normally they do, which just screams "this product is shady and doesnt want you to know positive videos about it were sponsored"
There is a difference between a company paying to have someone do a review and a company giving a product to someone for free to do with as they please. A video that’s sponsored has to be announced in the video. A video where the company just supplied a product isn’t a sponsored video.
@@robertp457 this is wrong, by the way. Getting a free product as an influencer is considered payment under US law. If a content creator got this for free and decided to make a video on it, they are legally required to disclose that and mark the video as sponsored even if the company didn't give them any money and only gave them the product.
Great respect for the transparency of this video. I wasn’t bothered at all that it was an ad because you were so transparent about it so I watched it because it was interesting.
Notably though, a lot of sponsored videos for this product _dont_ disclose the sponsorship, from channels which normally do. Makes me think they're pushing people to not disclose sponsorships but Adam fought back on that
@@Magmafrost13 I wouldn’t blame the product I would blame the creators who don’t disclose. They have more to gain by that notably ad revenue from RUclips
These things are great if you cant afford a normal normal stove or dont have the room, that's about it though. Otherwise its just excessive consumerism.
@@jojivlogs_4255 not really, because colloquially people have a different perception of a toaster oven to an air fryer. You can be annoying about it and correct people but it still wouldn't even be correct, a toaster oven generally does not have convection while an airfryer does.
@@ststst981 fine, toaster oven with a little fan. better? either way, my point is that people probably have appliances in their home that already do what an air fryer does. standalone air fryers are often not worth the money
The advantage of things like this (and old fashioned toaster ovens) is that they use a fraction of the energy of heating a whole oven to cook one little piece of chicken.
Yes if it IS a "little piece of chicken". No if it's bigger and will take an hour or so. This is due to traditional ovens having insulation so once they're up to temp they use less energy to stay at that temp. Also if this thing uses atomised water then it's going to use even more energy to overcome the inherent cooling from that.
would've been nice to see what the cleaning process looks like though - also maybe some discussion of what the top size it'll handle is, and a look at more general stuff like reheating frozen appetizer type items and roasting veggies
This video just felt like a miss. It's a six minute infomercial for a company that's working off of Kickstarter. I've seen far too many products fail to deliver on Kickstarter, even 'reputable' companies that have already-succesful businesses. Also strange that we got a Saturday video? Just trying to give honest feedback because I usually love the videos Adam puts out (I've probably watched every one since the first NY style pizza vid, including every podcast episode)
I've seen this a lot recently: "recipe for the most juicy/moist meat ever!!" and you end up with something that leaks liquid everywhere when you prod it. I guess it's impressive but is this really what people want to eat? I know dry meat is bad but surely there's a middle ground between dry and something that pisses out half a pint of liquid all over the plate?
You sound like someone who’s upset about a made-up situation that you invented. I’ve never had an issue of water pouring out of my food and making puddles in my kitchen.
I know this isn't exactly related to this product but with food prices getting so out of control in a lot of places I wonder if we're going to see a big resurgence in "single task" kitchen gadgets. You know the kind designed to take a raw ingredient and turn it into a gourmet level dish with minimal effort from the user. This has happened a few times in the past but I feel that technology has progressed to the point that these devices could start actually doing things more or less as advertised.
Wait, you didn’t turn convection on in your regular oven? That doesn’t seem like quite such a fair test. Though I get the impression “convection” is an upgrade a lot of Americans don’t have? While every electric oven I’ve ever seen in the UK was a “fan oven”, even the cheapest ones. It probably helps that our ovens tend to be half the size.
Correct. Many ovens in the US do not have convection settings (although many do). I am not sure what is typical in the UK, but here most ovens tend to come as part of a 4-burner stove/range on top of the oven, often paired with a large overhead microwave oven with an integrated fume vent. For this reason the ovens and microwaves tend to be quite big, but it is still relatively space efficient because everything is stacked on top of each other.
Not only is it a kickstarter full of buzzwords like "cooking algorithm" and some coined product categories, it's also an unnecessary smart appliance with a touch screen. To be fair though, some of the features are mildly compelling, but I'm not 100% sold on the gimmicks.
The surface on all those cooked items looked quite pale. Couldn't they blast it with super-heated air for a minute or so? Perhaps that is beyond the device's capabilities.
Not gonna lie, the chicken looked bad, all improvements from probe mode were just convection cooking. But above all, this seems like a classic case of all advertising budget and questionable resource allocation to other aspects. Hopefully I'm proven wrong and this all turns out to be the next instant-pot.
Thank you for identifying the video from the beginning as "this is an ad". In a world full of misleading and poorly declared advertising, the clarity is appreciated. Watched it anyways :)
Absolutely love all the lying by omission you're doing for this ad Adam. Totally doesn't make me question your legitimacy or willingness to lie to your audience in other videos. No no not at all.
I wouldn’t trust this device to brown the meat. Both the chicken breast and steak look terrible. I would probably use it to “air sou vide” then sear on a pan.
i've had my Chef Maker for a bit now and it is at least as good as it looks in this ad. i knew it was a risk to back a Kickstarter, been burned before, but this one really came through.
I wish every device wasn't trying to be 'smart' and use an external app that harvests your data and presumably tries to sell you other devices in their lineup. Established companies using Kickstarter's a big pass from me, sorry Adam
This is a little too heavy on the advert side for my liking. There is nothing to learn other than this product existing. I understand there is a need for some sponsorships but there should at least be some content along with the advert
This is like a table top Rational Oven. I used to have to sell those as part of my high school education in Oklahoma. They’re seriously amazing ovens and having this as an option for the home has me seriously excited.
@@mikehiebert6227 the short version of it is that it was the teacher’s other job and our school had a program set up to where that could be exploited for college credits thousands of dollars in college scholarships.
Sounds like it would be good for people who like the precision of sous vide but with a bit more heterogeneity and not having to seal your food in a plastic bag every time
I paid a hefty 599, but the Anova steam oven can do sous vide without the bag. I put two baking sheets worth of chicken breasts in the oven and they come out super juicy every time.
funny he mentions "like back in the nineties," when talking of air fryers. Matter of fact they came out with air fryers back in the nineties. I recall my commercial fishing captain bringing one on the boat and telling me how this thing was like a miracle machine, blah, blah, blah. Seemed promising as using an oil fired Dickinson boat stove oven was precarious. It would cook great on an even keel, but if the boat learned to starboard the carburetor would flood and the stove take off like a rocket and burn everything, if the boat leaned to port it would die out, a thing on a shrimp dragger that leans a lot while dragging a trawl, not to mention that if anyone opened the back door for the galley the stove would cool forty degrees. Those old air fryers had a clear cover and one could see what was going on. But they weren't very good, usually dried the crap out of meat and just wilter a lot of the vegetables.
I love that you refuse to call that hot air top blowing machine an A!&FRY*R, too. It is a handy device for cooking small quantities of [insert item to be roasted] though.
The fact that I don't get to choose settings when I'm using steam cook makes this a no sale. Having to rely on presets means I can't get the food done the way I want, and that's very important to me
If we're going to be pedantic, it isn't "atomising" water. At least I hope it isn't splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen :) Though I guess it could be used in it's traditional meaning (from the Greek: smallest part you can cut something into), so it's just technobabble for making little droplets.
it does sound neat. what about the noise level compared to "standard"/ other 'Tabletop high Fan speed Convection Ovens', though? since most of them make a lot of whirring Fan noise.
Notice he don't mention PRICE which automatically tells me... Don't wast my time checking out the site. If I cannot afford to rebuild the brakes on my truck properly....I cannot afford this experience kitchen toy.
i wonder if you could possibly hack this feature at home by putting a pan of boiling hot water in your oven I theorize the water function works by increasing the humidity to a point where the food's moisture cannot leave the food. Because the air in the cooker is already as full of water as it can be
That steak maybe could've used a little rest but otherwise, this looks solid. I sometimes use my *close your ears* air fryer with a litthe water below the food basket and it usually ends up in meat being more juicy. Wet air does not dry up the food that much and conducts heat better, science :)
I know that "airfryer" is annoying marketing speak, but I think there should be a term other than "convection toaster oven." Convection toaster ovens have been around forever, and if you read the patents on the airfryer, there are important design differences (stronger fans, rounded corners to allow better air circulation, etc...) that make them more effective than toaster ovens with a fan that were available 30 years ago.
I can't stand smart home devices that come with their own app. It clutters your phone, and part, most or even all of the functionality of the device could be lost in case company drops support or goes bankrupt. Which happens quite often with stuff like this.
"Atomized water" aka: fog or very fine mist. I'm not saying this isn't a perfectly fine product or anything. It looks like a great little oven. I'm just easily annoyed by marketing gurus using excessively scientific sounding words to describe how a product works. It strikes me as intentionally misleading. There is no cutting edge, high-tech gadget inside that oven breaking water into individual molecules, as they clearly hoped to imply.
Does this product somehow require a monthly subscription to use? It looks interesting to me but if I have to pay for it monthly after already paying for the otherwise fully functional hardware then it's a hard no. Can't find any mention of it on the Kickstarter but I know better than to think that an appliance being released in 2023 isn't going to make me pay for the hardware and then keep paying to use the hardware that I paid for.
calling a kickstarter a "preorder" is incredibly deceptive and really disappointing to see you do. Is money really so tight you have to fleece your audience with bullshit marketing deals with dodgy companies? or is this move just entirely motivated by greed?
Thanks to Dreo for sponsoring this video! Early birds can save 28% on the ChefMaker right now: bit.ly/43cnrtK Kickstarter ends July 10th.
"juciest ever"?
Looked about as juicy as the induction cooker with a little water and a controlled temperature selected for not drying out the meat a bit below the boiling point of water. The idea of moderating cooking temperatures with water is a good one... that I use with induction cooking.
@@lethaleefox6017 no it probably is quite "juicy", but the thumbnail spells it "juciest"!
You keep saying "atomized water."
I assume this oven isn't actually breaking water down into individual hydrogen and oxygen atoms because that would be dangerous and unhelpful, so what exactly do you mean by atomized water?
Because it sounds like it's just steam injection but the company wants to pretend it's doing something new.
@@michaeloffner8515an atomizer is what sprays a fine mist of something, like on a perfume bottle
I'm guessing that since Adam didn't say anything about that steak, we can assume that it wasn't that good, lol
well I wouldn't expect a lot from streak cooked without a pan or grill. can't really get good crust with air
I don't know if you say that as a little joke, but personally I find it to be a very clever way of doing the sponsorship properly but giving us good advise. Adam had no need of showing us the steak bit of the video. He does it because why not and then follows with a different thing completely, just after saying to us that if something is bad he wouldn't say anything but he wouldn't lie either.
That part of the video is there probably just to inform us that the devide does not cook steak specially well.
He also said the chicken was 'juicy', but never said if it was good.
@@def4dawg That is entirely up to how you season your food. There's nothing great about any chicken that just has salt and pepper.
@@mlseg5143 I'd give it the benefit of the doubt. Searing is just getting a lot of heat to the meat surface quickly. If this is done by direct contact to hot iron, transmitted via hot oil, and/or delivered by hot air, doesn't make much of a difference. If the machine can heat the air enough, possibly some oil wrapping of the steak itself, this might turn out to be great!
Calling a Kickstarter a pre-order is dangerous, as it's explicitly not a pre-order.
he's not going to risk losing customers to describing the danger of getting what is essentially an early-access appliance. Honestly it's probably for the best for Adam (financially) to do a kickstarter sponsor now, because the website and archetype is so old that most won't realize what they might get and how they'll be stuck with it. Although I find it infinitely hilarious he cares so much about talking around "air fryer" because it's "deceptive", but openly says blatantly untrue information about this product.
@@toilet_cleaner_mant’s sure easy to call something “blatantly untrue” without describing it. He said nothing untrue about the product and it’s not an “early access” product.
It’s an exercise in marketing by a company that’s been in business for years and have brought many products to market including air fryers. There is always risk associated with kickstarter, but this could be one of the top least likely to fail.
Well the pledge goal has been met on kickstarter, so technically, yes it will be pre-order
It depends. There are two kinds of kickstarters. Those that need the funds for product development and start with just a concept or some prototypes and those that are an established business basically using kickstarter for marketing and pre orders. This looks like the latter and the risk for those is pretty low. Assuming they aren't just lying the lead time on this is short enough that product development has to already be finished.
Since they have a working product they are willing to ship to third party and let them use it unsupervised, I'd say there is limited risk they don't deliver. They can definitely make the thing, even if they can't make enough by the date they promised shipping.
adams catchphrase list is getting absurdly long
Sad oven breast on the right
Is he jumping on the RUclips bandwagon of say the “*whatever* of it all” ? Lol
Vinegar leg is on the right
Why i season my board, not my steak
Mirror universe and Long live the empire
Tabeltop convection oven
Anything else i miss?
@@Bayollbrits call it a “blank”
@@Bayoll
Summon forth the upside-down bear.
Heterogeneity!
Again. This is a Kickstarter. No matter how good this looks, if the unit you get is faulty, you have NO recourse. Dreo has a few products out in the market. But this final product hasn't been manufactured yet. It's a $259 risk.
Totes m'goats. Established companies that already have revenue using Kickstarter are at best desperate for marketing and at worst outsourcing R&D and growth investment through the public. It's sketchy enough if the seller is just some dude with a neat invention. It's even sketchier coming from a corporation marketing what they think is their next hit product.
@@BravoCharleses Yeah. It's like large videogame publishers releasing games in early access.
There is a big difference between a company developing and manufacturing their very first product and a company who’s been around for a while and has been selling their products like air fryers for years. The odds are much higher this oven will actually get produced.
@@lonestarr1490satisfactory could be one of the best games ever and it’s in early access. The difference is the company running the early access.
@@BravoCharleseshow is this “sketchier” than a single person “company” that’s never brought a product to market before? Peak Design used crowdfunding for a whole bunch of their products none of them sketchy. I’ve seen this oven in a bunch of cooking channels and after doing some research on the company I don’t see any red flags. I would have donated if I didn’t buy the Anova oven.
Wait a minute, Adam doesn’t like the term “airfryer” because it doesn’t literally fry with air but is ok with the term “chefmaker” even tho it doesn’t literally make chefs??? 😂🤣 😂
No, that would have to be his mother.
Oh, the irony.
He gave other reasons for his avoidance of the term. It's rude to reduce someone else's argument to a single point and then mock them for it.
@@pendlera2959it's a good thing that person wasn't arguing with adam, or even mocking him, for that matter. It was just a joke, simmer down
It is because that is the name of the product, not a description of what it is. They appear to describe it as a "combi fryer". Probably would struggle to get a VW in it though
Looks intriguing. I'll let the early adopters iron out the kinks, and if all's good I might look into one around version 2
They make and sell other air fryers this isn’t the first version of the first product they are trying to bring to market.
countertop combi ovens aren't new. I first saw one about 2 years ago, and I don't keep an especially close eye on new cooking appliances.
If air fryer is misleading, then so is atomizer.
How is atomizer misleading? Did you look the word up on Google? It’s spraying water into the cooking chamber. Steam is the gas form of water while atomized water is still water and not a gas. How do people just assume they know what something means when they’ve likely never heard the word before?
@@robertp457 The word atomizer is misleading because it doesn't split the water into atoms, simple as that. And don't try to argue with the ancient Greek definition of atom being the smallest part of something, I'm talking about atoms in modern scientific usage.
Now, I know the word atomizer is used differently from what it would be if taken literally. But that is exactly the point, so is air fryer.
“If it wasn’t good I just wouldn’t say anything” put a steak with no seasoning in and skips over it
this video feels like TV ad telling you how you can fix a problem they made for you
Wait, they created overcooked chicken breasts? lmao
so its essentially a mini industrial combi oven, ive wanted this to be a thing for awhile
Anova has been making their Precision Oven (which is a countertop combi oven) for around 3 years. Check it out, I have one! Love the fuck out of it.
@@k03hl3rgreat product. It also regularly goes on pretty good sales. Worth waiting for if possible.
@@k03hl3r
This costs half as much. Its $259 in the link. Its is a kickstarter project but its seems to be ready to go.
It has been for quite a while as a niche within the ultra expensive built-in ovens. Wolf, for example, makes nice ones, but they run $5000+. Similar top end brands also have them in that form factor for similar prices.
Anova and some others have also been doing countertop models for a few years but those are intrinsically a tradeoff in many ways as all countertop ovens and stoves are. Anova seems to be the best countertop implementation currently in the stream of commerce, but that has a very different form factor than the Dreo being a full countertop oven rather than a large air fryer.
Dreo’s fan is top notch also, not the pole one but the smaller one
Adam: "I won't say 'air fryer' because you can't technically fry with air."
Also Adam: "This is an atomizer for a substance that it does not actually break down into its constituent atoms."
...jk, all in good fun, language is weird and has more considerations than specific, literal etymological consistency
Actually it does break it down into atoms. An atom is just a small amount of something.
@_xeere that is one definition of atom. But your response is basically laying out my point, this is the exact type of ambiguity that I was allowing for in my "jk..." addendum - for instance, doesn't the common colloquial use of "fry" in this context give it the same leeway as these two different definitions of "atom" which allow it to be called an "atomizer"?
@@DirkDjently Obviously. It's an air-fryer because it fries using air as the heat transfer medium instead of oil. It would be silly to say either of those things aren't what they are.
@@_xeere The original meaning of atom is a thing that cannot be devided into parts. The irony of course being that the atomic theory was conclusively accepted in the scientific community after it was discovered that atoms consist of multiple parts.
@_xeere ok so what are you complaining about then? Lol
It seems like you're just trying to argue about something that isn't what I was saying, by responding with something that doesn't meet your own necessary etymological standards.
1:03 Adam is probably the first and only person to use the word fatphobic in the right context
He didn't say much about the steak. Take that for what it's worth.
Interesting. Too small for my family but looks like a great option for those who cook smaller amounts.
Unless you've got more than 6, you'd be surprised how much food you can cook in one of those things. SortedFood did a sponsored video with them where they did a BUNCH of stuff.
@somefreshbread there's 5 of us but 2 of them are huge eaters. Of course they are also the thinnest... just crazy fast metabolism. My friends are always shocked at how much food they consume. 😂
@@rumbleinthekitchen_Amy I miss being young, too. Now I feel like even adding cream to my coffee adds 2 pounds to the scale.
Ironically, it has too big a footprint for me in my motor home kitchenette.
@@somefreshbread Then don't add cream to you coffee! Good coffee is never bitter and thus does not require cream. (Or sugar, for that matter, because good coffee is also never sour.)
My problem with the smaller tabletop convection ovens (which I agree, is a better name than air fryer) is the lack of space. My dad got a much larger, like 10-in-1 "toaster oven" unit, it's about the size of two college dorm room microwaves stuck together end to end, and a little bit taller than a microwave, and it's SO MUCH better than smaller units, and way cheaper than getting a stationary, traditional oven/stove combo with a convection fan. Most of the oven/stove combos with convection that I've seen have pretty pitiful fans, anyways, and the ones with big enough fans to actually make a difference are priced accordingly. So unless I were to find one of those combo units (one that actually has an adequate fan) for the same price as a non-convection unit that has all of the features I want, or even cheaper, then I'll probably stick with one of the larger countertop ovens, and have my stove/oven combo be non-convection.
Man so he’s just making straight up ads now without anything else.
I'm not sure how the term air fryer is fat-phobic, deep fried food is objectively unhealthy so I dont see an issue offering a healthier alternative. Its not as if they're targeting fat people.
even if they were, is that a bad thing? Being unhealthy is an objectively bad thing for a person's continued survival and their overall happiness, is providing an aide to an issue a bad thing nowadays?
Man, I sure hope the kickstarter doesn't run into issues, for your sake. I don't know how many successful kickstarters you've backed, but they sure seem to have a high risk assosiacted with them.
^ this!!! these companies are never held accountable if they don't deliver anything
There are very few kickstarters from already established companies that aren’t successful. Most of the unsuccessful crowdfunding campaigns are from people who’ve never brought a product to market before. It’s a lot more time consuming and expensive than most people realize which is why I don’t crowdfund anything from a startup or from anyone who’s never brought a good product to market before. This isn’t a startup company and they’ve been in business for many years and have been making air fryers in a similar form factor already.
@@robertp457 That’s good to hear.
@@robertp457 If they're so well established, why the need for a kickstarter? People need to understand that the company has no liability. Your money is not any safer than with a backyard engineer who wants to take some hairbrained invention to market. And people have lost money in the past and the companies haven't coughed up the money even when putting out a similar product later.
@@sntslilhlpr6601 This way they can gauge interest in the product before committing to mass production. This is getting more common than you might realize. If you look at the kickstarter yourself you would realize that this is fully guaranteed and warrantied for 30 months(12 months if you do not register the product). You would also have been able to read the updates that they have completed the 1st round of mass production and are doing quality control before shipping units(USA and Canada).
This campaign is much safer than the umm backyard engineer - your money is safer because they will not take your payment until the campaign is over and they get your shipping details. The appliance is already completed and passed US/Canadian regulations.. They are still pending their UK certifications before going into production in the UK
I get KickStater has had issue with some kickstarters in the past, but you can not and should not lump them all in together.
What you get for being an early adopter is a discount on the suggested retail price they plan on going with. You also get one before others that will have to wait for production runs and distribution.
You have to also consider the fact that Adam does not do sponsor ads for products that he ends up not liking. He said this in the video.
Everyone (like myself included) can also just wait until it has been released and is out in the wild before deciding to buy this - if you were ever even considering buying such a appliance (which I am lol)
I agree, "air fryer" is a bad name...but an argument I see all the time is that it's "just a convection oven", and I would say that it is, in function, different from just a "convection oven". A convection oven just has a fan that blows around the already-heated air, which is great for ensuring even cooking throughout the oven's space. An "air fry" (or "European style convection") has a heat source behind the fan, so the air being blown is quite a bit hotter. I have a gas range and an electric countertop toaster-oven-style "air fryer", and both have both functions, and there's a HUGE difference between both of those functions in the results.
Strongly agree with this. Also, the tiny compact space of a "tabletop convection oven" means you have a LOT more air moving in relation to the size of the food. A traditional American convection oven has a small (in relation) fan in the back of the unit, whereas the air fryer is like 40% fan by volume.
This results in far crispier food far faster (even without adding oil yourself) than you get in a traditional convection oven.
So it's still a convection oven.
3:45 I also think the smaller body compartment of air helps a lot too. An oven has to first heat the air before it heats your food. The more air you have to heat, the slower the cooking will go. It would also mean some of the cooking happens at lower temperature, which is probably why the conventional oven is less brown.
Using "fat phobic" to indicate a fear of fat. This just makes me happy.
Extremely suspicious of this thing honestly. You did the right thing in disclosing the sponsorship at the start of the video, but I've seen _other channels_ conspicuously not do that when normally they do, which just screams "this product is shady and doesnt want you to know positive videos about it were sponsored"
There is a difference between a company paying to have someone do a review and a company giving a product to someone for free to do with as they please. A video that’s sponsored has to be announced in the video. A video where the company just supplied a product isn’t a sponsored video.
@@robertp457 good thing Im specifically talking about sponsored videos then
@@robertp457 this is wrong, by the way. Getting a free product as an influencer is considered payment under US law. If a content creator got this for free and decided to make a video on it, they are legally required to disclose that and mark the video as sponsored even if the company didn't give them any money and only gave them the product.
How do you know they didn't just buy the product themselves for the purpose of making content? It wasn't too expensive during the fundraising process.
@@robertp457 getting a free 300 dollar air fryer and then saying you arent sponsored is so disingenuous
Great respect for the transparency of this video. I wasn’t bothered at all that it was an ad because you were so transparent about it so I watched it because it was interesting.
It would have been more transparent to put AD in the title
Notably though, a lot of sponsored videos for this product _dont_ disclose the sponsorship, from channels which normally do. Makes me think they're pushing people to not disclose sponsorships but Adam fought back on that
@@Magmafrost13 I wouldn’t blame the product I would blame the creators who don’t disclose. They have more to gain by that notably ad revenue from RUclips
@@Ryan-The-Grifter the first words he says are literally "THIS IS AN AD", you can just stop watching then if you don't want such ad.
These things are great if you cant afford a normal normal stove or dont have the room, that's about it though. Otherwise its just excessive consumerism.
welcome to home cookery in the West, we hope -to enjoy your money- you enjoy your stay!
@toilet_cleaner_man great comment. May I ask how the line through text like that? It would be useful to know to help make my point sometimes.
"Adam-ised water" pun intended?
At this point your refusal to say "Air fryer" is like a teacher being pedantic about "may I" vs "Can I"
Air fryer being a fat phobic term was a bit of a stretch. Lol
or you can just call them toaster ovens which is effectively what they are
@@jojivlogs_4255 not really, because colloquially people have a different perception of a toaster oven to an air fryer. You can be annoying about it and correct people but it still wouldn't even be correct, a toaster oven generally does not have convection while an airfryer does.
@@ststst981 fine, toaster oven with a little fan. better? either way, my point is that people probably have appliances in their home that already do what an air fryer does. standalone air fryers are often not worth the money
It's a tabletop convection oven and yes they are a type of toaster oven. @@ststst981
The advantage of things like this (and old fashioned toaster ovens) is that they use a fraction of the energy of heating a whole oven to cook one little piece of chicken.
Yes if it IS a "little piece of chicken". No if it's bigger and will take an hour or so. This is due to traditional ovens having insulation so once they're up to temp they use less energy to stay at that temp.
Also if this thing uses atomised water then it's going to use even more energy to overcome the inherent cooling from that.
@@Shaun.Stephens Atomized water, not atomized air.
@@PaulaBean D'oh! You're right. M'bad, I'll edit it.
would've been nice to see what the cleaning process looks like though - also maybe some discussion of what the top size it'll handle is, and a look at more general stuff like reheating frozen appetizer type items and roasting veggies
"I would just say nothing"
adam: says nothing about the steak
I'm not gonna be the one to tell him he misspelt "juicier." One of ya'll gotta break it to him.
'atomized water'
so, steam?
I'm not here for more kitchen gadgets, but by golly seasoning the plate to save on hand washing? That's the content I'm here for!
then rubs meat juice all over the thermo probe wire while touching it with the clean hand, lol
This video just felt like a miss. It's a six minute infomercial for a company that's working off of Kickstarter. I've seen far too many products fail to deliver on Kickstarter, even 'reputable' companies that have already-succesful businesses.
Also strange that we got a Saturday video?
Just trying to give honest feedback because I usually love the videos Adam puts out (I've probably watched every one since the first NY style pizza vid, including every podcast episode)
I get that the video IS an ad, but it still was a bit disapointing
@@Im_Ryan It's not just an add but its 100% add with no actual content. Even shopping channels have a better ratio of content to advert
mini convection oven marketing how convection ovens use air: exists
Adam: YOU CANNOT FRY IN AIR
Ah yes! Water Fryer!
I've seen this a lot recently: "recipe for the most juicy/moist meat ever!!" and you end up with something that leaks liquid everywhere when you prod it. I guess it's impressive but is this really what people want to eat? I know dry meat is bad but surely there's a middle ground between dry and something that pisses out half a pint of liquid all over the plate?
It's almost like our ancestors weren't idiots and knew good methods
You sound like someone who’s upset about a made-up situation that you invented. I’ve never had an issue of water pouring out of my food and making puddles in my kitchen.
@@robertp457 Look at the video thumbnail, the chicken is literally sitting in a puddle of water lol
I read the “cook probe” label on that box as something *very* different
Are fan ovens not the norm in America?
Depends. A lot of ovens do, but most cheaper models don't.
They aren’t.
I know this isn't exactly related to this product but with food prices getting so out of control in a lot of places I wonder if we're going to see a big resurgence in "single task" kitchen gadgets. You know the kind designed to take a raw ingredient and turn it into a gourmet level dish with minimal effort from the user.
This has happened a few times in the past but I feel that technology has progressed to the point that these devices could start actually doing things more or less as advertised.
This video is indeed an ad
The sheer comedy of how aggressively Adam handled the tray got me every rime
"This video is and add." Boom. Ok. Thanks for that. I'll give you my time for that courtesy.
0:49 he said it
Wait, you didn’t turn convection on in your regular oven? That doesn’t seem like quite such a fair test.
Though I get the impression “convection” is an upgrade a lot of Americans don’t have? While every electric oven I’ve ever seen in the UK was a “fan oven”, even the cheapest ones. It probably helps that our ovens tend to be half the size.
Correct. Many ovens in the US do not have convection settings (although many do). I am not sure what is typical in the UK, but here most ovens tend to come as part of a 4-burner stove/range on top of the oven, often paired with a large overhead microwave oven with an integrated fume vent. For this reason the ovens and microwaves tend to be quite big, but it is still relatively space efficient because everything is stacked on top of each other.
Not only is it a kickstarter full of buzzwords like "cooking algorithm" and some coined product categories, it's also an unnecessary smart appliance with a touch screen. To be fair though, some of the features are mildly compelling, but I'm not 100% sold on the gimmicks.
> Hey, that one looks interesting!
> UK, US & CA only
> 😐
LOL he said fat phobic and I thought he meant people, for a second I was wondering wtf he was talking about. I'm like Adam you look great XD
adam said he would never refer to the forbidden device but did 7 nearly 8 times during this video
a kickstarter because those always turn out well!!!
Saying "a*r fr*er" requires ultimate balls of steel and I respect Adam for saying it out loud
I once said *i****er and a crowd almost beat me to death
I really feel like saying you can "check something" on your smartphone is an ANTI sponsorship.
So given the comment on the chicken and paid, then the steak after lack of comment on tastes...
The surface on all those cooked items looked quite pale. Couldn't they blast it with super-heated air for a minute or so? Perhaps that is beyond the device's capabilities.
This is an ad. Adam integrity -1
your "fatphobic" argument was really dumb in my opinion. Sure, healthy fats are important, but deep frying food is just objectively unhealthy.
Yeah what a strange reach lmao.
Not gonna lie, the chicken looked bad, all improvements from probe mode were just convection cooking. But above all, this seems like a classic case of all advertising budget and questionable resource allocation to other aspects. Hopefully I'm proven wrong and this all turns out to be the next instant-pot.
Intelligent food scientist: air fryer is a fat phobic name for the device 🙄. Not even intelligence can save you from cultural bias.
SURELY this video won't backfire at all lmao
Why would it backfire? He didn’t make any claims in the video that aren’t true.
Thank you for identifying the video from the beginning as "this is an ad". In a world full of misleading and poorly declared advertising, the clarity is appreciated. Watched it anyways :)
Absolutely love all the lying by omission you're doing for this ad Adam.
Totally doesn't make me question your legitimacy or willingness to lie to your audience in other videos.
No no not at all.
I wouldn’t trust this device to brown the meat. Both the chicken breast and steak look terrible. I would probably use it to “air sou vide” then sear on a pan.
i've had my Chef Maker for a bit now and it is at least as good as it looks in this ad. i knew it was a risk to back a Kickstarter, been burned before, but this one really came through.
I wish every device wasn't trying to be 'smart' and use an external app that harvests your data and presumably tries to sell you other devices in their lineup. Established companies using Kickstarter's a big pass from me, sorry Adam
This is a little too heavy on the advert side for my liking. There is nothing to learn other than this product existing. I understand there is a need for some sponsorships but there should at least be some content along with the advert
Adam Ragusea doing kickstarter product reviews, how the might have fallen.
This is like a table top Rational Oven. I used to have to sell those as part of my high school education in Oklahoma. They’re seriously amazing ovens and having this as an option for the home has me seriously excited.
Why was selling ovens apart of the high-school curriculum in oaklahoma? 😂
@@mikehiebert6227 the short version of it is that it was the teacher’s other job and our school had a program set up to where that could be exploited for college credits thousands of dollars in college scholarships.
That dislike bar is lookin' a lot brighter than normal.
FaTaPhObIc!
It does look like a great product if maybe a little unnecessarily complex (like everything nowadays).
Idk what is happening with this guy, the recent videos is just isn't hitting the same
Adam won’t say anything he didnt think was true unless when it comes to a mobile game
Sounds like it would be good for people who like the precision of sous vide but with a bit more heterogeneity and not having to seal your food in a plastic bag every time
I paid a hefty 599, but the Anova steam oven can do sous vide without the bag. I put two baking sheets worth of chicken breasts in the oven and they come out super juicy every time.
This is your shill-iest video yet, IMO, and yet, you say very little about the product. Maybe that means you shouldn't have taken this sponsorship.
yep. i hope its not becasue he needs the money.
This is one of the reasons BBQ guys use a big waterpan when they cook on smokers. Also helps prevent the meat edges from drying up into jerky.
Adam I won’t say anything if it isn’t good. Doesn’t say anything about the stake
I like my poultry dry, fight me...
"That is the juiciest chicken breast I have ever croaked in my entire life"
Per the thumbnail, "the *juciest* chicken breast"
Adam has really gone downhill…
funny he mentions "like back in the nineties," when talking of air fryers. Matter of fact they came out with air fryers back in the nineties. I recall my commercial fishing captain bringing one on the boat and telling me how this thing was like a miracle machine, blah, blah, blah. Seemed promising as using an oil fired Dickinson boat stove oven was precarious. It would cook great on an even keel, but if the boat learned to starboard the carburetor would flood and the stove take off like a rocket and burn everything, if the boat leaned to port it would die out, a thing on a shrimp dragger that leans a lot while dragging a trawl, not to mention that if anyone opened the back door for the galley the stove would cool forty degrees. Those old air fryers had a clear cover and one could see what was going on. But they weren't very good, usually dried the crap out of meat and just wilter a lot of the vegetables.
Me: I want a airfryer...
Mom: NNNNNNNO!
You should really have #Advertisement in your bio on these kinds of videos
I love that you refuse to call that hot air top blowing machine an A!&FRY*R, too. It is a handy device for cooking small quantities of [insert item to be roasted] though.
The fact that I don't get to choose settings when I'm using steam cook makes this a no sale. Having to rely on presets means I can't get the food done the way I want, and that's very important to me
3:01 he said you can pick whatever temperature you want.
It could be possible and just not shown here. Might warrant some research.
You don't have to rely on presets and you don't even need to use the app
"Atomized water"..... steam?
it’s called a tabletop convection oven for those who speak conversational English and not Marketingese
If we're going to be pedantic, it isn't "atomising" water. At least I hope it isn't splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen :) Though I guess it could be used in it's traditional meaning (from the Greek: smallest part you can cut something into), so it's just technobabble for making little droplets.
Breaking something into individual atoms is not the only atomization. Atomization is breaking a substance into a colloid or gas.
it does sound neat. what about the noise level compared to "standard"/ other 'Tabletop high Fan speed Convection Ovens', though?
since most of them make a lot of whirring Fan noise.
Notice he don't mention PRICE
which automatically tells me... Don't wast my time checking out the site. If I cannot afford to rebuild the brakes on my truck properly....I cannot afford this experience kitchen toy.
i wonder if you could possibly hack this feature at home by putting a pan of boiling hot water in your oven
I theorize the water function works by increasing the humidity to a point where the food's moisture cannot leave the food. Because the air in the cooker is already as full of water as it can be
That steak maybe could've used a little rest but otherwise, this looks solid. I sometimes use my *close your ears* air fryer with a litthe water below the food basket and it usually ends up in meat being more juicy. Wet air does not dry up the food that much and conducts heat better, science :)
I know that "airfryer" is annoying marketing speak, but I think there should be a term other than "convection toaster oven." Convection toaster ovens have been around forever, and if you read the patents on the airfryer, there are important design differences (stronger fans, rounded corners to allow better air circulation, etc...) that make them more effective than toaster ovens with a fan that were available 30 years ago.
I can't stand smart home devices that come with their own app. It clutters your phone, and part, most or even all of the functionality of the device could be lost in case company drops support or goes bankrupt.
Which happens quite often with stuff like this.
1:57 HE DID THE THING HE DID THE THING
"Fat phobic" really?
I'm pretty intrigued by this, not gonna lie. But there is no way in h-e-double-hockey-stick I'm "pre-ordering" on kickstarter.
"Atomized water" aka: fog or very fine mist. I'm not saying this isn't a perfectly fine product or anything. It looks like a great little oven. I'm just easily annoyed by marketing gurus using excessively scientific sounding words to describe how a product works. It strikes me as intentionally misleading. There is no cutting edge, high-tech gadget inside that oven breaking water into individual molecules, as they clearly hoped to imply.
would it be possible ti bake bread in it with the water feature for a good crust?
You could, but the loaves would be a bit on the small side. Thought I don’t know if you can cook above 100c with steam in this device.
Does this product somehow require a monthly subscription to use? It looks interesting to me but if I have to pay for it monthly after already paying for the otherwise fully functional hardware then it's a hard no. Can't find any mention of it on the Kickstarter but I know better than to think that an appliance being released in 2023 isn't going to make me pay for the hardware and then keep paying to use the hardware that I paid for.
calling a kickstarter a "preorder" is incredibly deceptive and really disappointing to see you do. Is money really so tight you have to fleece your audience with bullshit marketing deals with dodgy companies? or is this move just entirely motivated by greed?