American Reacts to: The Falklands War! UK & Argentina, Overview!
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The British 100% claimed it first, the French and Spanish popped in for a visit but none settled there and the Argentinians never did as it was settled British Territory long before Argentina ever existed. This war was all about self determination and the Falkland Islanders wanted to remain British and that why this war happened. The last full public vote showed over 99% voted to remain British.
Actually the French built a small settlement on West Falkland but we're thrown out by the British.in 1833.
The British made its first claim to the islands in 1765.
Argentina only became a country in 1816. 🤷♂️
@@Aloh-od3ef exactly so how can they claim it as their country didn't exist when Britain first claimed it
@@da90sReAlvloc Argies and sense don't go together
1690 actually
The French tried to settle the islands too but the British threw them out in 1833. That's why the Falkland Islands flagg has 1833 on it. That was when Argentina took notice the islands
@@mothmagic1 It was the Argentinians who were thrown out in 1833 while the Spanish paid the French to leave a couple of decades before.
I was fully on board with your view, until the end. It makes zero sense! How can you hold the Brits and Argentinians both responspible? The people of the island had no wish to be subjects of Argentina, what was Thatcher supposed to do? She had one choice and one choice only!!!
Blaming both sides when they invaded a British overseas territory, it's like if Spain tried to invade Gibraltar again, it's solely on the Spanish that the blame should fall!
She has no idea about building up a island.
The islanders were protected by Britain for 20% tax but Argentina wanted to take 40% & offer no protection so no wonder they voted for Great Britain…
She really has no idea. I stopped watching after reading your comment
You lay blame on both sides? These were british citizens being attacked by a foreign country. It might have been a long way away from london but remember, how did americans feel when Hawaii was attacked by the Japanese at pearl harbour.
I get what you’re saying. Have a good one🥰
I am Australian, so I have no dog in the fight. I visited the Falklands as a tourist about 15 years ago. I can say for sure that the population then were virtually 100% in support of remaining part of Britain. In fact I would go so far as saying that they are more British than residents of Britain itself.
The biggest mistake made during this conflict is the Argentinians even thinking the British wouldn't defend their own territory, Considering Britain ended up in both world wars to defend not themselves but another country, if that's what they do for their allies what the hell did they think they would do to protect their own territory? Funny enough America, you know, Britain's ally, said they shouldn't do it and couldn't win and offered no assistance, Russia however even though this was during the cold war not only told Argentina that Britain would fight and would win but also offered access to their satellites to help. Funny how Britain has been able to rely on someone that they were allied against instead of their actual ally, and yet Britain hasn't left America alone to deal with it's own problems just look at why the British ended up in the middle east. America likes to ignore this and see themselves as Britain's greatest ally but they aren't and never have been.
In fairness, the US position was more nuanced than that. Publicly, the USA wasn't supporting the British effort to re-take the islands, for political/diplomatic reasons to do with their own relations with south america. Privately however they gave us considerable support, including satellite surveillance data and a generous supply of the very latest model Sidewinder air to air missiles for our Harriers. They were even discussing that if one of the british aircraft carriers was lost, the US might be willing to lend us one of theirs.
In the end the USA supported the UK , but President Reagan wanted to stay out of it as General Galtieri , the Argentine President was a useful ally fighting Communism across South America .
@@PreceptorGrant It was a piece of junk that was out of date and scrapped soon afterwards. It was not a real carrier.
@@paulcrowley8587 Still would have been better than no carrier at all.
Britain got there first. Argentina never had a settlement on there. Argentina was trying to invade and colonise a place that never had anything to do with them.
The reasons for the war were as follows.
1) the Argentinian government needed a distraction against the distain of the people.
2) the Falklands was officially British land and Argentina had no claim to it.
3) as part of British sovereignty we are obligated to protect the citizens that live there in the same way that we would if someone invaded any part of the commonwealth and protectorate.
4) it's no different to British citizens being held hostage.
5) if we didn't act we would send a message to the world that anyone can just march in and take any country they want and the the British will do nothing.
Imagine being a Falklander and finding out that you've been abandoned by your government and left to the mercy of a tyrannical regime.
Apparently there is oil under the Falklands but we have no desire to go there and wreck the land.
As a young soldier in 82 I played a minor and non dramatic role in Op Corporate. I was a volunteer, and very happy to go - the pictures that Argentina released showing our Royal Marines lying in the road after they were ordered to surrender, with an Argentinian commando standing over them - really did inflame the nation. Abandoning the Falkland Islands to the military Junta of Argentina was unthinkable. I consider it a "just" war - and fought for the right reasons. That fact that it ended the Junta, and gave Argentina (which I have visited twice in recent years) a democratic government was just icing on the cake. There is a pretty funny, and very British movie called "An Ungentlemanly Act" that tells the story of the 2nd April invasion accurately, and was shot on location.
My respects to you my dear for your service. Thanks for sharing🥰🥰
Two of my classmates served in the Royal Navy in the Falklands. Both came home. Captain Dent, whose parents lived four doors down from were we live, didn't. He was killed, with Colonel H Jones at Goose Green. He is buried in the Falklands, but has a memorial outside his home, sixty yards from my front door. Every year a contingent of motirbike-riding Parachute Regiment veterans come to pay respects and lay a wreath, as they do forl their fallen Falklands comrzdes.
Bless them all. And the poor Argentinian conscript who never got to go home
Awe thanks for sharing that with me. My heart goes out to those who’ve loss love ones. I can only imagine how those Argentinian mothers/ family feel. I’m happy though that they are not forgotten. Have a good day 🥰🥰
@@IslandGirlzHaveFlow05XBS Only the Argentinians? Says all we need to know.
I was around 12 when it happened. Watching it on the news was horrific. The Argentinian forces were basically children. It was not both sides. The UK had no choice. They moved in and attacked our civilians. They tortured and abused the civilians too.
Britain got there first, the population class themselves as British.
41 years before Argentina existed. We got there by 2 generations before Argentina was being named after it's most lucrative industry at it's birth.
Oh wow thanks for sharing that. 😊
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You are entitled to your opinion but that’s because such values were put in place by Britain, I doubt if Argentina would have given you the same rights. So the Islanders want to protect those rights.
Even as a former British soldier (much later) I always felt sorry for the poor sods the Argentinian dictatorship sent on a stupid pointless war just so they could try to stay in power. Ill equiped untrained young boys forced into uniform just so they could fight the cream of the the British military. Infantry from the household guards division one of the most elite units in the world for centuries the parachute regiment and the Royal Marine commandos formed during WWII to raid enemy coasts and strike deep behind enemy lines paving the way for all modern special forces and the Gurkhas easily as good as any of the British regiments deployed with a history as rich in hero's as the guards. Even American troops would feel a little nervous facing that particular line up.
The "chicos" were even more afraid of their commanding officers than of the British troops they were sent to fight. My Mothers friend had a son who was there, in the Royal Marines. He told me that they had watched an isolated outpost for the best part of a day and there was one young lad, sat on a chair, holding his rifle, who had not moved for hours. Not eaten anything, not gone to the toilet, not even scratched his nose,...... nothing. One Marine
picked up a decent sized rock and threw it at the 'chico' hitting him on the head. He, the 'chico', then fell off the chair and again did not move. After being told to advance on the outpost the Marines discovered that the poor young lad had died from hyperthermia, exposure to the low temperatures without the correct clothing. That's how ill equiped the conscripts were!
Queen Elizabeth 2nd's son Prince Andrew was a helicopter pilot there, flying in the midst of air attacks.
His job was to be a flying missile target in front of the ship
who got there first ?, the answer was provided in first few minutes of the film, we were, and as i was in the RN at the time, was actually down there on the ships in the bay
I had a 4 month posting there in 1987 in the Royal Signals. I absolutely love the place. The people are so friendly and the wild life is amazing.
Thanks for sharing!🥰🥰
The Argentinian government’s choice under Galtieri to engage in the Falklands conflict was basically to boost his own popularity and shift the focus from his governments failures.
There's noting like a conflict and a common enemy to unite a nation.
Thanks for sharing that with us. Your last sentence is so spot on. Have a good one🥰🥰
Actually it doesn't matter who got there first as those who live on the Falkland Islands feel British and want to be part of Great Britain. They do not want to be part of Argentina as they want to be under British rule. It's exactly like forcing the people of Hawaii to be British and not American and taking there rights away to be an American State and instead being a British sovereign island and being ruled by us British, those people on the Hawaiian islands would want to be American, and want to be part of the United States so the United States would send it's Armed Forces to get the Hawaiian Islands back as American. It's Exactly the same the Falkland Islands are British and so British Citizens of the Falkland Islands needed to be rescued plus a British sovereign Island had to be taken back to it's rightful owners Great Britain. I am 60 years old and I remember the Falkland Islands War like it was yesterday as it was the main news here in the UK, plus it was British plus our heroic military was sent out there to get it back also Argentina was absolutely hated by us Brits and their was so much anti Argentina feeling's throughout the UK. Today there isn't that hatred but we don't trust Argentina at all. 💂♂️💂♂️🇬🇧🇬🇧🏴🏴 Actually it wasn't stupid it had to be done plus, there is accounts from Falkland Island civilian's that endured absolutely terrible treatment from the Argentinian troops that was absolutely disgusting and were remiinders of WW2 and the treatment of civilians from countries that were invaded by Nazi's. Don't forget but after WW2 a lot of escaped Nazi's made an escape of freedom straight to Argentina where there are town's with Nazi German decent people live in towns that look exactly like towns from Germany with German stile built houses and other buildings. Argentina was very friendly with the Nazi's.
The stupidity of Galtieri thinking the British would not respond in force was a major miscalculation. I feel certain their military leaders would have had a different opinion!
The conflict was 100% the fault of Argentine - otherwise you are saying that the USA were equally at fault for the war against the Japanese in WW2 after Hawaii was attacked. After all, it's just an island, so why should anyone care who rules it. Well I suspect the Americans felt that they couldn't stand back and let someone attack their territory and get away with it, and that is exactly how Britain felt about the Falklands. Not defending the islands would have signaled to every military dictatorship on the planet that they could do anything they wanted with no consequences. So because we did fight back, the world became safer overall. And in the final analysis, it actually ended up making Argentina a safer place for Argentinians as well.
The Brits were there first
There is a documentary on RUclips called Islanders war which tells the story of the war through interviews with many of the Island's residents from the time. It's quite long but if you're interested in the civillian view of the war it's pretty good.
Greetings young lady please have a look at Operations Black Buck Falklands' Most Daring Raid.Cheers and stay safe.Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, is located near the center of the Pacific Ocean, roughly 2,000 miles from the U.S. mainland and about 4,000 miles from Japan.But did the USA give it up?No.
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The first undisputed landing on the islands is attributed to English captain John Strong, who, en route to Peru and Chile's littoral in 1690, explored the Falkland Sound and noted the islands' water and game.
@@tomhirons7475 What is?
This is not having a pop at you. You said it's a war that should not happen, but let's turn that around. What if another country came over to hawaii to take it over? Would the USA let that happen. The answer is no
That's the point most people miss there are many small nation's which are members of the British commonwealth because they are too small or too poor to guarantee Thier own security. The Falklands war had to be fought to prove to them and anyone thinking of conquering them that Britain would fight for them. We had given them our word and now we had to prove we would honour it. If they had agreed or chosen to join another nation we would have wished them well just like we did when Hawaii decided to join the US but we would not abandon them to their enemies.
@@ianjardine7324 Hawaii didn't exactly *decide* to join the US.
@@nac5901 yeah, I mean if they chose to join them I doubt they would still have the British flag in the corner of their own like the majority of commonwealth nations
@@ussenterprisecv6805 Hawaii was never British, either. The Union Jack is in the corner just because the Hawaiian king thought it looked good. (If it had been, perhaps Britain would have intervened when American businessmen staged a coup ...)
@@nac5901 technically it was but only for a short time. In 1843, the British, under Captain Lord George Paulet, occupied the Hawaiian Islands for five months because of a land dispute involving a Briton, Richard Charlton. Hawaiian sovereignty was restored by Rear Admiral Richard Thomas five months later, who renounced the actions of Charlton and Paulet.
Argentina has never taken Britain to court over the Falklands, because they know they would loose. The UN treaty makes self-determination the deciding factor. The USA wanted that to end the British Empire, but didn't realize that some places would not want to become independent.
The broadcast about the attack on Goose Green was almost certainly not a conspiracy. It was either incompetence or greed (a reporter wanting a scoop). The information was probably given to the press under an embargo that it should not be broadcast until a certain time. That is normal. It allows the press time to prepare and makes them less hostile to the government. But the embargo was broken, either by mistake or because someone want to get fame by being early. Since the press don't reveal their sources the truth is hard to find.
Oil has recently been found near the Falklands.
the brits got there 1st in the 1700,s its why they are called the falklands as he explains at begining
It’s accurate but it glosses over so much! The number of ships lost the hit on the Sir Galahad was particularly devastating, I remember the footage of the casualties being brought ashore!
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When you see what the Argentinian military regime were doing to their own people, is it any wonder that the Islanders had no desire to change their long held allegiance. They were British subjects & as such, had every right to expect to be protected by their homeland, despite the distances involved. Given the behaviour of their troops after their invasion, they pretty much ensured the Islanders would never change their minds.
South American countries have a very turbulent reputation which is also not conducive to the Islanders changing their minds. Their main worry now is, whether any future U.K. Government will abandon them to save money.
You are right , like the video said thousands of Argentinians ' disappeared ' during the dirty war .
Island Girlz thanks for sharing blessings
Hey Island girl. You really need to check out the Vulcan bomber run from the UK to the Falkland islands to destroy the Runway of Stanley airport it was called Operation Black Buck and is a fantastic feat of flying involving a massive operation of nine aircraft having to refuel one bomber to drop a payload of bombs onto a runway and get back to assension island or ditch in the south atlantic ocean . also check out Simon Weston one of the survivors of a exorcist missile attack on one of the ships. Another thing to check out is the Army song Rule Britannia Falklands version
Island girl you should react to the Anglo -Zanzibar war. It lasted for 38 minutes,
Good video stay safe 👍
and it only lasted that long because it took about half an hour for someone to be brave enough to lower the flag in surrender, the fight itself ended within the first 2 minutes when Zanzibar ceased to have any weapon that could hope to stop the royal navy.
Ok will do thanks James 🥰
There was terrible loss of life on both sides as there always is in war .RIP to all . I do remember the relief when the Argentinians were defeated and the great celebrations as the task force of the Royal Navy and Army came home to Portsmouth . There were massive crowds of families of the men who lucky enough to come home .
it was Britain that first found the Islands in 1690 over 150 years before Argentina even existed as a country themselves so not sure how they think they can claim it.
it is British an the people voted to stay British an the Argies invaded..how the fuck is it blame on both sides
Trying to react to a documentary will take a long time and we don't mind that.
But the Kelpers are British subjects it really doesn't matter where you live you protect your own.
Sadly the Argentinians were a victim of a mad military junta and those kind of governments harm their own people first
Love to any Argentine though 🖤🤙🏻
Bless up uself Island Girl ❤
Love you mama🥰🥰
@IslandGirlzHaveFlow05XBS Love you too my darling 🥰
Even though the British government could have done more to discourage the Argentine governments action, given that they had murdered thousands of their own people, would you want to be forced to choose between living in a country ruled like that, or leave the place you call home. Geological surveys indicated oil deposits before the invasion but were considered too costly, recently a contract has been signed for an exploration rig to be constructed less than 200 miles from the Falklands.
Great video
Thanks 🥰🥰
99.8% of the population want to be British, that is the crucial question, we also discovered the island in the 17th century. Argentina only inherited the claim from Spain when they became a country in 1816. 100% British.
Also at the time of the Argentine invasion they were ruled by a criminal Military which had murdered and tortured thousands of its own people on political grounds and were feared & despised by their own population. How on earth could Britain stand aside and watch when this government held power over British citizens. We tried for over a month to find a peaceful resolution but none was found, a UN resolution had also found in our favour. We couldn't have waited further as the South Atlantic winter lasts 7 months and Military operations would not have been possible in another 2 months. Do we leave British people in that situation for that long, no. Somethings like freedom of the individual are worth fighting for.
Thank you so much for doing video much appreciated
My pleasure!🥰🥰
My pleasure!🥰🥰
The British were in the Falklands before Argentina even existed
Giving Argentina advanced warning of an attack on goose green may have seemed to the media a play too long foot the defense of port Stanley.
Lots of Germanys army was banished from Europe after ww2 & most officers & soldiers went to Argentina & there grew the hatred for Great Britain so they were always going to attack Great Britain some how but as usual they lost…
Oh wow did not know that thanks for sharing🥰🥰
One reason I was told that the UK wanted the Falklands back was that they faced Antarctica and that would give the UK a claim to any mineral rights should things like oil be discovered in Antarctica. Being a crusty old cynical Brit I find this more believable than any finer feelings over protecting a few Brits and a load of sheep.
It's possible that both are true. I tend to think that the principle was the main thing, because Britain had a reputation as a military power to maintain, couldn't let blatant aggression go unanswered. But mineral rights could easily have added motivation.
It's illegal under international law to exploit the natural resources in Antartca. No nation with a claim there can drill for oil or mineral deposits. You're only allowed to do scientific studies there. Only reason I know that is because I recently watched a short documentary about who 'owns' Antarctica. It then made mention of that fact in regard to oil and mineral deposits.
@@chadUCSD I know that it is illegal - at the moment, but things can change and back then politicians thought longer term than the next electoral cycle.
No one wants war! Least of all the British. The real perspective was the cynical way the Argentinian Dictatorship distracted domestic problems by starting a war. America ultimately backed the British and gave much support but this was a conflict the U.K. not for the first time were alone. The British armed forces are so skilled and professional. Ordinary men and women who do extraordinary deeds. All in our name in the name of freedom. I recall a little event in Pearl Harbour. We’re the Americans wrong to answers back? Certainly not. So war must be avoided but not at the expense of freedom and the right to predetermination
You were TOLD who first claimed this uninhabited island at the beginning of the video, WHY DON"T YOU LISTEN????? I suspect you don't want to...
There’s another video saying it’s the French thous I ask the question genuinely. Have a great day. 🥰
Nothing extra would add to the video. It would be a mere rabbit hole. Argentina invades Falkland Islands . British recapture them. The UN resolutions of the time would certainly back Britain.
Britain got there first. The video tells you that.
If we follow your logic as to who got there first…. Well the British got to New England first so should we lay claim to Boston and the Eastern seaboard of America ? Surely the residents now get a say as to who rules them and they did they even had a tea party to decide and now they are US citizens so of course it’s not as simple as who was first the ex slaves of the Caribbean islands now decide for themselves who rules Jamaica, Barbados, etc but they weren’t first.
Here for another reaction video
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Watch 8 minutes of a documentary telling you who got their when then stop the video and ask who got their first 👌
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Good to see you again, you keep going gorgeous.fab video
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Let me first say that this is a very one-sided tale, cuz it cannot be called a history or fact. One should always hear both sides of a story before drawing any conclusions and should back things up with actual history, not what each side believes. Many details are left out and both sides made bad choices. A great deal has been left out. The UN would be a better source of information. Treaties were broken, even by the USA for taking sides. Also, there are far more penguins that sheep or humans and the islands are part of the continental shelf of South America and part of Argentina's territory, as determined by the UN. The location is strategic in terms of passage between the Pacific and Atlantic oceans and a potential threat in terms of nuclear control of the region. Oil and fisheries are also an issue of territorial right and access to resources Britain does not have the right to claim regardless of who is living on the land. Colonialism also died centuries ago and it is only hanging on for strategic purposes. Controlling the waterways, the natural resources and domination. Until 1982, the islanders had no TV, only HAM radio and no medical services. A ship from the UK would supply the islanders twice per year, thus, their medical needs and supplies had been supplied by Argentina for a couple of centuries. Things this video leaves our and one has to wonder why?
The islands were British before Argentina existed. Are the European Argentines going to give back Argentina to the native america people who lived
there first, and go back to Spain?
@@jerry2357, valid point. The islands were deeded to Argentina by Spain upon their independence. Before Britain took what was not theirs, it was claimed by the French. It has been a long fight over who gets what when the 'new world' was 'discovered'. Spain stole land from every native culture on this continent and several European cultures made their claims. None of the native cultures were willing to give up THEIR land nor give up THEIR lives because of God and Queen. We can squabble over all the history but we all know geographically that Britain has no business in the South Atlantic.
@@lingoman1
The first undisputed landing on the islands is attributed to English captain John Strong in 1690. This makes them British.
Thus I don't see how Spain had any right to give the islands to Argentina. The Argentinian claim is completely bogus.
And having fought a war over them, the British are not going to give them up now, certainly not when more than 99% of the islands' population voted to be British. The United Nations accepts the principle of self-determination.
@@jerry2357 "The islands were uninhabited when discovered by Europeans. France established a colony on the islands in 1764. In 1765, a British captain claimed the islands for Britain. In early 1770 a Spanish commander arrived from Buenos Aires with five ships and 1,400 soldiers forcing the British to leave Port Egmont. Britain and Spain almost went to war over the islands, but the British government decided that it should withdraw its presence from many overseas settlements in 1774. Spain, which had a garrison at Puerto Soledad on East Falklands, administered the garrison from Montevideo until 1811 when it was compelled to withdraw as a result of the war against Argentine independence and the pressures of Peninsular War. Luis Vernet attempted to establish a settlement in 1826, seeking support from both the Argentine and British Governments but most of his settlers took the opportunity to leave in 1831 following a raid by the USS Lexington. An attempt made by Argentina to establish a penal colony in 1832 failed due to a mutiny. In 1833, the British returned to the Falkland Islands. Argentina invaded the islands on 2 April 1982. The British responded with an expeditionary force that forced the Argentines to surrender."
@@lingoman1
British sailor John Strong landed on the Falklands in 1690. As for Luis Vernet, he was given permission to run cattle on the islands but the Argentines tried to appoint him as an Argentine governor without British permission. When Britain found out, they ejected him by force in 1833.
As for your other arguments in this thread, the colonialism argument is irrelevant since the Falklands are NOT a colony. There were no indigenous people to be colonised when the British landed there and set up a settlement. The UK and the Falklanders do have the right to their EEZ under the UN Law of the Sea, regardless of what Argentina claims. Prior to 1982, the Falklanders also had supplies from Chile and South Africa, not just from the UK. Britain broke no treaty, nor did the Falklanders.
To be honest - the Falklands War is a subject that to understand it properly and furthermore understand its true human cost especially even more so when actually making a reaction to it, these longer videos about it including ones even longer than this packed with even more archive are what any reactor should use. Am not a fan of the whole bitesize 10 min type simplified video about this topic, okay for a childs quick understanding fine but far as generally goes no way can you grasp the gravitas of what that war was from one of those and think you are doing the best reaction. At end of day British military of the time served in defence of the Falklands to liberate it, and some paid ultimate price and they deserve due respect. If people can't have the staying power to watch your reaction to videos of it this type of length then well, that is their issue no one elses.