Getting Started With Org Mode

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @knownuser0815
    @knownuser0815 7 лет назад +102

    one of the most comfortable speakers, he could continue for hours, I would still be here :)

    • @ThrashAbaddon
      @ThrashAbaddon 5 лет назад +2

      He should work as a conference speaker and video tutorial maker.

  • @realisticlevel2553
    @realisticlevel2553 3 месяца назад +1

    8 years later and this talk is still awesome

  • @SantiYounger
    @SantiYounger 4 года назад +84

    amazing video, thank you so much for making this. I'll share some notes if anyoneebenefits from them!
    6:50 tables are great
    12:00 Latex in org-mode (Latex advantages without the hustle of latex)
    25:00 Using evil mode on emacs (vim shortcuts on emacs)
    27:00 Todo list
    32:00 To-do list archive
    40:00 contacts, alternatives and mutt integration
    46:00 fancy quick website export
    46:50 flashcards
    48:00 website on org-mode
    49:00 orgmode on mobile
    51:00 own cloud

    • @jeffhayes5580
      @jeffhayes5580 2 года назад

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    • @jeffhayes5580
      @jeffhayes5580 2 года назад

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    • @anoopanthony
      @anoopanthony Год назад +1

      7:46 exporting to other formats

  • @tematum
    @tematum 5 лет назад +296

    org-mode is very good for writing tutorials about org-mode

    • @coffeedude
      @coffeedude 3 года назад +2

      Lol wtf is this comment chain

    • @hidragon91
      @hidragon91 2 года назад

      That's a fact

  • @HighInquisitorBonobotheGreat
    @HighInquisitorBonobotheGreat 6 лет назад +38

    I just love the geeky amazement of the crowd '' OOOH WOOW'' XD

  • @5dot2dot0dot5dot
    @5dot2dot0dot5dot 4 года назад +5

    Alright, I'm sold. I never saw any advantage of emacs compared to vim, but it does so many of the things I've been searching for. Installing it now.

  • @TomerBenDavid
    @TomerBenDavid 6 лет назад +62

    That was a groundbreaking, mind-blowing, life-changing talk for me.

    • @Ybalrid
      @Ybalrid 5 лет назад +7

      After a year, how life changing was org-mode to you? I'm switching from Vim to Emacs, mostly for other reasons, but Org-mode being a thing, I want to start using it!

    • @BerkaySoyluoglu
      @BerkaySoyluoglu 5 лет назад

      @@Ybalrid How was *your* experience?

    • @Ybalrid
      @Ybalrid 5 лет назад +3

      @@BerkaySoyluoglu I mostly use for todolisting and tastk tracking (scheduled date and deadlines). I haven't delved into the agenda features. I like the fact that these are plaintext files that I can easily sync anywhere via nextcloud/dropbox/whatever. There are Smartphones apps that can uses them to (beorg on iPhone for example). It's great, but I am not using the full potential of the thing (yet!)

    • @BerkaySoyluoglu
      @BerkaySoyluoglu 5 лет назад

      ​@@Ybalrid Thanks for the reply! I think I'll be using this for sync: github.com/ryuslash/git-auto-commit-mode. For mobile, I might give Termux + Emacs a chance. As an alternative this exists too: github.com/aaronbieber/periodic-commit-minor-mode/blob/master/periodic-commit-minor-mode.el

    • @thehaag378
      @thehaag378 4 года назад +1

      @@Ybalrid is it a replica of Roam Research??

  • @10e999
    @10e999 7 лет назад +20

    Love your enthusiasm Mr. Schwartz ! Good presentation !

  • @artaway6647
    @artaway6647 5 лет назад +2

    Man, his voice is so clear and crisp

  • @y0cables
    @y0cables 7 лет назад +221

    Didn't know Gilfoyle was an emacs user :-)

    • @阿牛-p9l
      @阿牛-p9l 6 лет назад +5

      y0cables Silicon Vally?

    • @xuxue7
      @xuxue7 6 лет назад +4

      seems Richard ganna start a holy war

    • @VichitraChitta01
      @VichitraChitta01 6 лет назад +4

      Came here to write the same. Found it as the top comment ! :)

    • @thestopper5165
      @thestopper5165 5 лет назад +5

      Pfft. That's Gilfoyle's cucked Evangelical cousin, if anything.
      Gilfoyle has never ever non-ironically said " _This is gonna be fun_ ". And he wouldn't use an iThing if you had his balls in a vice, because he's backend (therefore talented, and heterosexual).
      If you didn't build your own machine, you have no part in any conversation that refers to Gilfoyle. That would be the opposite of taking his name in vain.

    • @tomaslopez7690
      @tomaslopez7690 4 года назад +7

      @@thestopper5165 you know... he is a fictional character right? And he uses a Mac in the first season anyways. Dunno about the rest

  • @JimmyArogen
    @JimmyArogen 8 лет назад +12

    Thank you for a exceptional presentation! It is so nice to always find new things to do in org-mode, I had not used the links so thank you for that.
    I have been using org-mode for a journal at work for over a year. It is crazy good. In the end of every month I export my notes and mail them to my boss. It is perfect for this and I don't know how many times I have gone back in my notes for an explanation to why I did something.
    At meetings I can jot down todos, notes and show what I have been up to, which is perfect.
    Next goal is to set up a calendar/agenda/org-file sync so I could use it with my phone. I have not gotten that to work just yet and any recommendations are welcome.

  • @timandmoby10
    @timandmoby10 8 лет назад +60

    I love the way this guy says "very fancy". Also, great talk!

  • @anirudhchandramouli309
    @anirudhchandramouli309 6 лет назад +8

    Thanks for the amazing talk Mr Harry Schwartz. Extremely engaging and resourceful. I'm a Vim expat to Emacs and this is one of the reasons why.

  • @gaius_marius
    @gaius_marius 5 лет назад +3

    Great presentation. I learned more about Org-mode in 1 hour than I had since I started using it a few months ago!

  • @eahere
    @eahere 8 лет назад +5

    Finally a video on this. I've been wanting to start for a while now, this is good as a kickstart!

  • @calebmccaffery1752
    @calebmccaffery1752 8 лет назад +24

    My new favorite video and speaker on emacs. Very fancy!!

  • @ster2600
    @ster2600 3 года назад +1

    I love the way this guy says "verr pretty" and "verr nice"

  • @PeterSmith-cruelandunusual
    @PeterSmith-cruelandunusual 8 лет назад +34

    I love this guy's use of the word "bonkers"!
    Great demo.

  • @stefmyt5062
    @stefmyt5062 Год назад

    I love this guy's voice, his calm explanations remind me of Bob Ross!

  • @justmegawatt
    @justmegawatt 5 лет назад +3

    Wow, I was blown away by all the features. Great presentation, what a cool guy!

  • @jyfeng6877
    @jyfeng6877 7 лет назад +4

    Thanks a lot...I'm also a big fan of emacs and org, but my English is really...em....really OK. There are a lot I can't understand in the video. I wonder how can I find the configuration of emacs in the video, github or somewhere else? Thanks again...

  • @jvanegas14
    @jvanegas14 6 лет назад +1

    as far as contact-lists in org, you can simply create a contact-list org file with custom properties for the different metadata for the contacts and place it in your agenda files, then you can build a custom agenda view for the contact list and use the agenda's powerful filtering system to filter by property

  • @maxstreese9048
    @maxstreese9048 6 лет назад

    I love how you blew the minds of multiple people multiple times during the talk. Sure enough blew mine as well!

  • @ex0stasis72
    @ex0stasis72 Год назад

    38:32 I use that same strategy with my alarm clock in the mornings. If I don't have to be somewhere by a certain time before noon, I won't set my alarm to wake up because I know I'll just snooze and sleep through it, which in the past had formed a habit of that to the point where I would set my alarm for important appointment, and I would snooze out of habit or maybe even sleep so hard all the way through the alarm that I never even heard it.

  • @mehmetedex
    @mehmetedex 6 лет назад +3

    Watched so many vim related videos online can confirm I've never been this exited. Great stuff.

  • @darren537
    @darren537 Год назад

    He sold me with the enthusiasm.

  • @luca-dallavalle
    @luca-dallavalle 9 месяцев назад

    Amazing talk, amazing speaker. Thanks a lot.

  • @porky1118
    @porky1118 4 года назад

    I normally just remember important things.
    But I write project specific TODO-lists, which is useful to work more structured on something, at least, when you already know pretty well, what you want to do and how it should be done.

  • @aneeshprasobhan
    @aneeshprasobhan 4 года назад

    but can you do real time compiling of latex while while you type ?

  • @Pattelito
    @Pattelito 3 года назад

    How is the file exported to pdf via Latex that fast? Doesn't it need to run pandoc first?

  • @PixelOutlaw
    @PixelOutlaw 6 лет назад

    This is a great talk. I appreciate a speaker who is comfortable with what they're demonstrating.
    Great information!

  • @p99chan99
    @p99chan99 9 месяцев назад

    i wish there was to include grouped headers for tables in org-mode, anyone know how to do t hat?

  • @ykhatat
    @ykhatat 8 лет назад +2

    How did you change the outliner from * to circle? (1:58)

    • @thapakazi_
      @thapakazi_ 8 лет назад +7

      Use org-bullets mode
      github.com/sabof/org-bullets

    • @sud0x3
      @sud0x3 7 лет назад +1

      If you watched the video you wouldnt need to ask

  • @uzor123
    @uzor123 7 лет назад +1

    Interesting with table completion.
    How does it interact with default emacs's table-insert (existed since the 90's)?
    M-x table-insert enter enter enter (default values)

  • @ianpan0102
    @ianpan0102 6 лет назад +5

    Thank you for changing my life.

  • @quidquopro1185
    @quidquopro1185 5 лет назад

    What is the name of the color theme he is using for the bullet points and what not? It looks really nice!

    • @dmitrymanik8867
      @dmitrymanik8867 5 лет назад

      Solarized I guess

    • @jz4901
      @jz4901 5 лет назад

      I'm trying out github.com/sabof/org-bullets. The colors don't exactly match, but it's still better than the regular '*' etc.

  • @KutAnimus
    @KutAnimus 5 лет назад +12

    This presentation would have been infinitely better if there was some kind of way to show what keypresses he was making.

    • @mydemon
      @mydemon 4 года назад +2

      yeah it would have been better. but its nothing you can lookup by yourself if you're convinced by the talk. Personally I never used org-mode (didnt even know what it was) so it was useful to see the options and decide whether I want to learn it. Then I just get a book or a longer tutorial.

  • @zzantares
    @zzantares 8 лет назад

    Thanks for the talk, this blew my mind! However when you fold/collapse a section an arrow appears instead of the three dots (...), I thought that was provided by org-bullets also, but it's not, how did you customize that?

    • @zzantares
      @zzantares 8 лет назад

      Great! It worked like a charm thanks, hoping to see more of your talks you're really good at this.

  • @luv2stack
    @luv2stack 6 лет назад

    Is it possible to move SRC blocks with meta key? When I do that, I get an error saying "This block is not using a session!"

  • @digitalspecter
    @digitalspecter 6 лет назад +5

    So many great things! Org-mode fanciness was very interesting but I also liked the general trend toward owning/reclaiming your own data, preferably in plain, open formats (can't really beat plain text files). Owncloud, duckduckgo, etc, all good stuff :)

  • @Diachron
    @Diachron 8 лет назад +7

    Great introduction. Being an Org Mode addict, I watched it wondering if I could pick up a few tricks, and sure enough, I did.
    Can you please elaborate on how you installed/configured 'minted' to achieve the syntax-highlighted exports? Thanks.

    • @Diachron
      @Diachron 8 лет назад

      +Harry Schwartz It certainly is.. Thank you!

  • @thapakazi_
    @thapakazi_ 8 лет назад +3

    org-mode ; #motherofall outliner, markup langs, task manger, cals, ya who-knows-what-else...
    thanks for featuring this, everybody better learn to use org stuffs for their own productive life.

  • @abhinavchavali1443
    @abhinavchavali1443 2 года назад

    What is the theme he's using in this?

    • @ex0stasis72
      @ex0stasis72 Год назад

      It looks like one of the 3 or 4 "Solarized" dark themes. I've heard that the Solarized theme (light or dark) is more likely to be the easiest on the eyes for the most people.
      My opinion is that because it is mostly green, it avoids both blue and red light (RGB). Blue light is straining on the eye, and red light puts you to sleep. And this particular green leans only slightly into the blue light spectrum, which my theory is that it helps you focus.

  • @whostolehonno
    @whostolehonno 4 года назад +2

    An org config file is pretty cool

  • @boxmastersystems4172
    @boxmastersystems4172 5 лет назад +2

    Org mode is pure genius

  • @ar9v
    @ar9v 5 лет назад

    When he talks about literate programming, how would one deal with auto generated code?

  • @eneacaccia8414
    @eneacaccia8414 7 лет назад

    What is the font in the video called? I love the rounded parenthesys

  • @dilgarda
    @dilgarda 6 лет назад

    how to change the parentheses like Mr.Schwartz in @16:42 ???

    • @EthanBlanton
      @EthanBlanton 6 лет назад

      If you ever figured this out, I'd love to know. I'm about to write some elisp for it, I want it so bad. ;-)

    • @karnuhvel
      @karnuhvel 5 лет назад

      Paredit?

    • @nalidbass
      @nalidbass 5 лет назад

      You can do that with smpartparens mode by Fuco1. The action in the time stamp can be achieved by doing `M-x sp-rewrap-sexp`. He probably has that mapped to a key stroke. See `M-x sp-cheat-sheet` or go to the home page of the package for more info.

    • @MB-gu9og
      @MB-gu9og 2 года назад

      @@EthanBlanton evil mode surround package

  • @sunitjoshi3573
    @sunitjoshi3573 6 лет назад +1

    I like his theme. Any ideas what it is or how to get it? Thanks!

  • @cloerenjackson3699
    @cloerenjackson3699 4 года назад

    Anyone find Markdown is sufficient for them?

  • @ThrashAbaddon
    @ThrashAbaddon 5 лет назад

    This is such a great talk. The speaker is just phenomenal. :)

  • @testusertedt1234
    @testusertedt1234 8 лет назад +3

    Great Video - thanks a lot! I learned a lot with all thoughtbot emacs Videos! Amazing!
    Does anyone know what color theme he uses? I really like it!

  • @ManuelMontoyaRdz
    @ManuelMontoyaRdz 7 лет назад

    BTW, you can connect Org mode with Trello or Basecamp tickets.

  • @mousedresden604
    @mousedresden604 7 лет назад

    Links you mentioned in the artticle, like you github repo?

  • @KaushalModi
    @KaushalModi 8 лет назад +3

    There were few places in your presentation where you wished you were able to resize the fonts. The inbuilt text-scale-adjust adjusts ONLY the current buffer text size. I had dealt with that limitation many times and eventually came up with this global font scaling solution: github.com/kaushalmodi/.emacs.d/blob/efea6785da61297f9af1a53e71c281dc3de9e3e5/setup-files/setup-visual.el#L253-L319

    • @KaushalModi
      @KaushalModi 8 лет назад

      +Harry Schwartz Cool! Interesting to see that we came up with almost similar solutions to solve the exact pain point i.e. resize EVERYTHING including the mode line :)

  • @markusscheinhardt8874
    @markusscheinhardt8874 4 года назад

    "Is there a certain hotkey to do that in emacs?" A typical question of someone who does not really understand the true power of emacs, yet. If there is no hotkey yet, you simply learn lisp and than you can create one yourself! ;-)
    Thanks for the nice tutorial!

  • @cepi24
    @cepi24 Год назад

    How to do the same in VIM?

    • @ex0stasis72
      @ex0stasis72 Год назад

      There's a Neovim plugin called nvim-orgmode that you can use. The Vim version I recall has been abandoned for years now, so you'll want to use Neovim if you aren't already. The plugin only has a small subset of the features of Emacs Org mode, but even a tiny fraction of that is still massively useful.
      Alternatively, if it's just the Vim motions that appeal to you, you can use Evil mode on Emacs to switch all the keybindings to Vim style.

    • @ex0stasis72
      @ex0stasis72 Год назад

      Oh, and if you happen to see a plugin called Neorg for Neovim, it's merely inspired by Org-mode, but they way your files are structured are not compatible with any other Org mode extension in any other editor. So you'd be forfeiting almost all the advantages of Org-mode with Neorg by not having a rock solit consistent compatibility everywhere you go and you isolate yourself from a dedicated developer community that has been going strong for over 20 years. Who knows if Neorg will be updated in a few years anyway.
      Anyway, that's just my opinion.

  • @HellScavenger
    @HellScavenger 7 лет назад

    What does Vunckers mean?

  • @purplefishies
    @purplefishies 6 лет назад +3

    Really great video . I learned a ton about org mode and the potential of literate configuration files. Harry's config files are at github.com/hrs/dotfiles where you can find the configuration.org and his init.el that loads the file

  • @silverlane9181
    @silverlane9181 8 лет назад +2

    This is truly fantastic! Great stuff! Ten points. Eleven if you could find the time to make part two and maybe three!! It might also be helpful to everybody if you edit this video a little or have a video guy do it so that unhelpful comments by unappreciative members of the audience wouldn't distract from the message and waste anybodys' time any more. Nobody deserves a torture like that! Everybody deserves to get this great knowledge - right?

  • @manufebie8535
    @manufebie8535 4 года назад

    why am only seeing this video now. I need this

  • @neilclay5835
    @neilclay5835 3 месяца назад

    Anyone following along and running into problems half-way, read the page on activation in the org mode manual

  • @The_Nova_Glow
    @The_Nova_Glow 5 лет назад

    This guy would be perfect for audio books.

  • @Adiounys
    @Adiounys 8 лет назад +15

    This video is kind of interesting and I watched it to the end but you really should title this "Showcase" or something like that and not "Getting Started". I just got emacs today and learned some basic stuff and I want to try this mode. Took me awhile to found org-show-subtree command (not even binded to anything) to expand those "outliners" so I decided to whatch your video hoping to see some tips and after this hour and minutes of searching help for "hide/fold/collapse" I still have no idea how to display it back. It's cool how you can export this in may formats and organize your tasks but practically I have no knowlage on how to "get started" with this. Usually I autodislike videos with misleading titles but forgetting that it is good so I won't, just saying...

    • @Adiounys
      @Adiounys 8 лет назад +3

      ok, I fount it is tab to "org-cycle" (very informative name) :P

    • @davidfonseca698
      @davidfonseca698 8 лет назад

      Thanks for your comment, I was wondering about the same issue.

    • @ChrisJones-rd4wb
      @ChrisJones-rd4wb 4 года назад

      Emacs seems cool, but I need something thats standardized and can be run over ssh cmd

  • @fabiena1787
    @fabiena1787 2 года назад

    Thanks a lot. Very useful, and very convincing.

  • @chriswilliams666
    @chriswilliams666 7 лет назад

    What is this meta thing you are talking about?

    • @chubbychocolates
      @chubbychocolates 7 лет назад +1

      Meta = Alt key on a PC

    • @chriswilliams666
      @chriswilliams666 7 лет назад +1

      I have a mac and I don't see any key marked meta.

    • @chriswilliams666
      @chriswilliams666 7 лет назад

      I also have a number of Linux boxes and even though I have been working in computers since 1973 I have never heard of a key called meta apart from the key marked meta on a Sun keyboard?

    • @chubbychocolates
      @chubbychocolates 7 лет назад +1

      The Meta (M) key on Sun and other mainframe keyboards became the Alt key on the PC keyboard. Thus on your Linux machines, the command Meta-c (M-c) becomes Alt-c.
      On Mac I *believe* that M-c becomes "option-c", though some Apple users map the Meta key to the Mac's "command" key . (not an Apple user so you might want to Google this to verify) Hope that helps.

    • @chriswilliams666
      @chriswilliams666 7 лет назад

      Bruce Fielding Thanks, I bet I am not the only one who didn't know that. I was used to vt100 terminals and I don't recall using that key.

  • @ex0ja
    @ex0ja Год назад

    I'm lost right at the start, how did he convert the star to the nice bullet point? Mine just stays as a star
    Edit: oh someone asked the same question 9mins in ☺️

    • @ex0ja
      @ex0ja Год назад

      I don't think he ever explained it!

    • @p99chan99
      @p99chan99 9 месяцев назад

      he uses a package called org-modern

  • @ruydorantes
    @ruydorantes 7 лет назад +10

    Didn't know Gilfoyle gave good talks.

  • @gish85
    @gish85 8 лет назад +23

    Awesome talk! That guy in the audience needs to shut the hell up

  • @allen-cz9cl
    @allen-cz9cl 6 лет назад

    I want the address of his github,who knows?

    • @thoughtbot
      @thoughtbot  6 лет назад +3

      Here you go! github.com/hrs

  • @intermarer9145
    @intermarer9145 Год назад

    16:40 how did he edit that second (align*) to {align*} as if using vim dot/period?? edit: eww ok, he is using evil mode 😄

  • @aneeshprasobhan
    @aneeshprasobhan 4 года назад

    Luke Smith should watch this.

  • @ulissemini5492
    @ulissemini5492 6 лет назад

    this makes me want to switch from vim to emacs, its so hard though ;-;

    • @kiraPh1234k
      @kiraPh1234k 5 лет назад +5

      Look into "evil-mode", it lets you use emacs as if it were vim as far as key bindings go so you can use your him knowledge to be productive while having the environment to experience and learn new capabilities that emacs allows

  • @EvanMisshula
    @EvanMisshula 8 лет назад +2

    So sorry I missed this.

  • @wxjeacen
    @wxjeacen 4 года назад

    Fantastic!

  • @jeandelinux259
    @jeandelinux259 6 лет назад +1

    very fancy

  • @max_ishere
    @max_ishere 3 года назад

    Getting started. More like a ~~complete~~ tour.

  • @miique
    @miique 2 года назад

    He kinda reminds me of Jonathan Coulton

  • @musashi939
    @musashi939 5 лет назад

    Well there is the strange notion to evaluate any code block automatically isn't a good idea 😃

  • @thegameoflife9179
    @thegameoflife9179 4 года назад +2

    There use to be a detergent called Vim.... Emacs wipes the floor with it :-)

  • @darren537
    @darren537 Год назад

    Nice

  • @felipepinheiro8691
    @felipepinheiro8691 3 года назад

    amazing

  • @Norogoth
    @Norogoth 3 года назад

    Eric Wareheim lost a lot of weight.

  • @ShubhamBhushanCC
    @ShubhamBhushanCC 5 лет назад

    It is said that the gods use emacs and the devil uses Vi

  • @keistzenon9593
    @keistzenon9593 8 лет назад

    shit's dope yo
    code interpretation; html AND Latex exportation. Only 16 min in and I'm way past sold! stop it or you'll force me to uninstall vi from all my machines

  • @barok0601
    @barok0601 2 года назад

    The questions are very distracting.

  • @Captain.Mystic
    @Captain.Mystic 5 лет назад

    Private simmons uses emacs. Not suprising.

  • @satindersingh9671
    @satindersingh9671 6 лет назад

    real life Gilfoyle

  • @m.awadsyahid2392
    @m.awadsyahid2392 2 года назад

    He looks like Mohamed Salah

  • @GuyMichaely
    @GuyMichaely 4 года назад

    There should be a religion for this

  • @strofikornego9408
    @strofikornego9408 7 лет назад +3

    Microsoft fanboys gonna hate

    • @lorenzoiannuzzi3937
      @lorenzoiannuzzi3937 7 лет назад +6

      Emacs is under the GNU GPLv3 and has ports to windows. So Microsoft Fanboys do have org-mode.

    • @musashi939
      @musashi939 5 лет назад +1

      @@lorenzoiannuzzi3937 but afair emacs in windows is horrible. And no decent emacs in a shell.

  • @РодионЧаускин
    @РодионЧаускин 2 месяца назад

    Walker Scott Garcia Jason Brown Jason

  • @dj-no
    @dj-no 3 года назад

    56 minutes

  • @ismylek3390
    @ismylek3390 4 года назад

    9

  • @laalbujhakkar
    @laalbujhakkar 2 года назад

    LIterally 53% of the screen real estate was wasted on the dude and some fuzzy logos. Why do nerds, in the year 2018 still think we want to see their mugs or their terrible logos when we click on a hands-on tutorial? Please don't do this .

  • @DasMandu
    @DasMandu 4 года назад

    ayyy big head

  • @gettheflockoutofhere
    @gettheflockoutofhere 6 лет назад

    Go straight to 2 minutes. He actually types something then.

  • @rooneye
    @rooneye 3 года назад

    Emacs has got THE ugliest logo I've ever seen. Vim's is really fucking nice.