I particularly appreciated the commentary about searching for lift. That and appreciated the proper, if not professional, decision-making around choosing a paddock, having height, and positioned to land in case, before starting the motor.
I can confirm that none of us saw Tim cleverly using the wave, as we were all focused on the course ahead. It was indeed a challenging day; I went about half Tim’s distance before starting my engine and scurrying home into that headwind.
Awesome, your channel has inspired me to take up gliding at the age of 62 here in the Uk. So I phoned my local club here near The white cliffs of Dover only to find they have now closed down. So need find somewhere else.
Wow Tim another nice flight. Low cloud bases are always fun, even though your margin for error is quite small. The thought process when stuck on that hill is also very informative. Deciding your options when you need to start your engine. Here on the other side of the world spring has come and I can not wait to go cross country again. Keep up your nice videos and enjoy the rest of the competition!
Hey Tim, thanks for all your awesome videos. I am a student glider pilot and always learn something from them, and they are great to watch during the week when I can't fly. Could you make a video about what gliding is like in winter, here in NZ?
Excellent video!! I learn so much more from this kind of content opposed to watching a perfect flight (entertaining as that is!!). To my knowledge only Pure Glide, SteFly, ChessInTheAir and Bruno Vassel share their mistakes (the 4 best gliding RUclipsrs!!), it's so informative!! Thanks Guys and keep it up!! Maybe I forgot to include Flying Simon?
I can now confirm I have been in touch with another gliding club about 35km from home and booked to meet them and hopefully book a go solo course with them. So hopefully as I retired last year I will be able to go solo by the end of the year, as I can attend as often as I like. 😢🤞
Loved this video, will watch your channel to learn more. This Grammie will be staying on the ground however, l will be enjoying every minute of your gliding. Twenty miles So. Salt Lake City area with many unforgiving mountains surrounding the valley. Great idea to use strings. Thank you and enjoy, Kathleen Nelson
thanks for sharing. I'm a novice glider pilot with about 120 hrs. I fly flatlands and was quite uncomfortable how low you were above the ridge, and how far the paddocks were compared to your position and height. Do you think you could have done a proper circuit for landing? Thanks for sharing, I learnt much from your videos.
Yep. Further evidence that, whilst kiwis are calm, modest, endearing birds, their flightless nature means they're happier when digging for grubs and worms than scratching around looking for lift...😁
Penny for my (unsolicited) thoughts : a) Doing anything with a low cloud base is always tough. b) Climbing (2 minutes into the video) near a body of water/wet are is often tough Thanks. I always enjoy your videos.
Around 6:00. Aren't you afraid of going that low into the woods? How were you sure you would find some lift there, or maybe there are some landing areas I fail to see in the clip?
Thank you for sharing this video and your experiences from this flight, Tim. An interesting situation, that even such promising, pretty good looking Cu do not create sometimes good enough lift to stay in the air...or probably you was already too low to use potentially such a lift, I am not sure here. But anyway - thank you for sharing it.
It's nice to know that the pros also end up against a ridge, barely maintaining altitude, thinking "f*ck, I need to pick a paddock". Not a good feeling eh?
It amazes me that gliders can find thermals and updrafts while travelling long distances cross country. Do you look for flat bottomed clouds and ridge lines? Can you fly a glider with a backup engine on a normal glider license or do you need a PPL?
Yeah exactly right, flat bottomed clouds are great! My engine is a turbo/sustainer, so I can’t launch with it. So no extra license needed, but I got lots of advice how to use it before trying it myself. If you have a self launching engine, then we have a separate rating to get for it.
So you get a "Tow" out & at some height or place you cut the ties.... after that I see you looking for thermals I guess so that you can continue gaining more altitude but after all of these things are you trying to get to a certain landing area or hoping to make it? I'm sorry for the dumb questions but I'm trying to get an idea here. Tow out, cut loose, search for thermals to climb, and then ride it back to the landing zone? I'm oversimplifying this in an effort to understand the steps you are going thru? I recognize the search for a good thermal but IDKnow what would be good nor so I know what the plan was had you found the thermal you looked for? Then I learned you do have power(motor). Didn't know that & this is my 2nd video of yours(Yeah, I Subb'd Up) so I might get a bit more info here. We shall see & thanks man, for not crashing ! peace
I have now watched a few videos of yours I should have known your a ozzy I am from the usa but the few ozzy's I have came across have been incredible Old Warpspeed being one and where you find him you will find a few other incredible ones Would love to go meet them face to face some day!
Just wondering your technique when motoring home. Did you try and minimise fuel used by climbing and glidiing saw tooth style or do you crruise on reduced throttle? Glad you made it back.
START YOUR ENGINE! Didn't have engines in my day, It was you against the elements from take off to landing. Didn't have mobiles either. I did end up in a Belgium jail on one occasion, no papers or passport, and they couldn't speak English. The fun of the game in those days was you didn't know where you would end up. Retrieve crews loved it fortunately. I'm commenting here because this flight brought to mind one occasion when I was in caught in heavy sink in Gusty conditions and looking down at a similar but worse landscape than this one and no indication of wind direction. I could see only one short narrow strip that would take a glider and there were high trees on the approach. I needed extra speed on approach in case of wind shear and the Sky I was flying had spoilers, not airbrakes. I realised it was a cross wind from the left and fence posts near the end of the run, but the grass was long and very wet and the Sky continued skiing along on its skid. I had two choices, do nothing and engage the fence or right wing down to ground loop right. I did the second. But the wind was now behind me with my left aileron down. The glider wing quickly blew to the left - straight on top of the fence post. Of course it was repairable, but had that not happened, it would have been a brilliant recovery from a horrendous situation. We only had the basic four windy instruments too, 'fly by your pants' was the order of the day. We had so much fun in the old days.
Hi no oxygen needed that flight! Only about 10,000 feet it is needed, which doesn’t happen often in the North Island. The tube in video is likely the microphone boom
I fly a pure glider so I'm always curious to see how having an engine influences your decisions. I'm pretty sure that without an engine I would not have put myself where you were at 8:00. On the other hand, you complete a number of XCs that I would not attempt, and sometimes you do it without starting the engine. The engine is a backup. Have you been flying lower and lower as the years go by? I expect that probably one day, the engine will not start and we will have a video of your outlanding with the engine boom extended. Wishing you the best in advance of that day.
Hi yeah I've done over 80 out landings over the years, so I still fly to outlanding areas like I don't have an engine. Which is what you're meant to do. As you say it's just a matter of time before it doesn't start on me! And already landed back at the airfield with it up a couple of times.
@@PureGlide It's smart to be perfectly comfortable with landing out before you start flying a glider with an engine. I'll buy that you're no more willing to risk a landout now, than you were before you got your engine. I'm looking forward to seeing a video of you flying XC in an engine-less G1000 or Duo, even better if you're doing an instructional flight with a new XC pilot.
Yeah I should film a xcountry twin flight sometime, although I haven’t been doing many. I usually don’t film with students because I’m focused on them and the training, after all they are paying for it!
Really interesting Tim and thank you for posting these videos. Newbie here… Can I ask a silly question? 11min into the video you flip up a mirror on the right of the cockpit. Is this to view your engine? Many thanks - SteveS
Is gliding equal to, more, or less safe than motorized flight? I'm curious because, while it seems like it would be more dangerous, I wonder if that's actually the case. Since gliders are smaller, lighter weight, and not carrying all the fuel a motorized plane would have on board, my logic tells me that a glider seems like a better craft for an emergency landing. Then on the other hand, it also seems more likely that one would need to perform an emergency landing while gliding. Very curious. Anyone with facts on this, please chime in! Also, is it common for gliders to have a small engine for situations such as this one? I was always under the impression that gliders operated soley on gravity and updrafts, after their initial tow up to gliding altitude. Thanks.
And yes many new gliders sold do have sustainers or little engines these days. It just means you're not having to land in a field somewhere remote as often...
How can it all go so wrong?! - Maybe cause u removed too many of the strings... bad karma. I love these kind of clips. Your start was perfect but then u got trapped. Hard to get over it. Im glad your engine is reliable.
A video about the Emotional Ups and Downs of Gliding seems to tie in well with this. Have a look at the video by: “Glide with Tom”: “How soothing is flying without an engine?” It is Brilliant! 😄
had a look at your trace and couldn't understand why you didn't make contact with the clouds over Rangitoto until I checked your height AGL, 100m, you wouldn't go in there at that height. Bugger!
A motor glider? Isn't that sort of sissy? In the 80's in the Reno area, I climbed from 6,000' to over 12,000' in one thermal in my hang glider. I was going up like a rocket and had to give it up. I was getting too cold wearing a tank top and shorts. A couple years ago I circled under a big cu in my Long EZ for about an hour, engine OFF.
I particularly appreciated the commentary about searching for lift. That and appreciated the proper, if not professional, decision-making around choosing a paddock, having height, and positioned to land in case, before starting the motor.
Thank you! Yip critical to have somewhere safe to land when it doesn’t start!
same, nice one mate
I can confirm that none of us saw Tim cleverly using the wave, as we were all focused on the course ahead. It was indeed a challenging day; I went about half Tim’s distance before starting my engine and scurrying home into that headwind.
Good times!
Did the weather forecast not suggest the wind down the valley, or are the island winds simply so readable that you just read the sky?
Oh no, that sinking feeling of going from Hero to Zero! …
Not to worry, Tim, you’re still my Hero. :-)
Haha thanks Johan
Awesome, your channel has inspired me to take up gliding at the age of 62 here in the Uk. So I phoned my local club here near The white cliffs of Dover only to find they have now closed down. So need find somewhere else.
Give southdown gliding club a go
Ringmer?
Did you end up going?
Lovely video Tim, good to see you were able to reach the field!
Me too!
Thank you for your videos! Most of the time, I learn something from them... I appreciate your comments about your decision makings...
Thanks Christian
Wow Tim another nice flight. Low cloud bases are always fun, even though your margin for error is quite small. The thought process when stuck on that hill is also very informative. Deciding your options when you need to start your engine.
Here on the other side of the world spring has come and I can not wait to go cross country again. Keep up your nice videos and enjoy the rest of the competition!
Thanks 👍
Hey Tim, thanks for all your awesome videos. I am a student glider pilot and always learn something from them, and they are great to watch during the week when I can't fly. Could you make a video about what gliding is like in winter, here in NZ?
Yeah good idea! There are a few old videos on my channel including one about winter flying, no talking in it though
Excellent video!! I learn so much more from this kind of content opposed to watching a perfect flight (entertaining as that is!!). To my knowledge only Pure Glide, SteFly, ChessInTheAir and Bruno Vassel share their mistakes (the 4 best gliding RUclipsrs!!), it's so informative!! Thanks Guys and keep it up!! Maybe I forgot to include Flying Simon?
Thanks Austin :) Woohoo in the top 5!
Juliet Sierra's landout video is admirable. ruclips.net/video/PCAeTcHUa5E/видео.html
I can now confirm I have been in touch with another gliding club about 35km from home and booked to meet them and hopefully book a go solo course with them. So hopefully as I retired last year I will be able to go solo by the end of the year, as I can attend as often as I like. 😢🤞
Awesome, hope you enjoy it!
How many flights have you done , ??? Me also learning at Hinton in the hedges ... and arff older than you !!!! But it is so great to do ..😊😊😊
Loved this video, will watch your channel to learn more. This Grammie will be staying on the ground however, l will be enjoying every minute of your gliding. Twenty miles So. Salt Lake City area with many unforgiving mountains surrounding the valley. Great idea to use strings. Thank you and enjoy, Kathleen Nelson
thanks for sharing. I'm a novice glider pilot with about 120 hrs. I fly flatlands and was quite uncomfortable how low you were above the ridge, and how far the paddocks were compared to your position and height. Do you think you could have done a proper circuit for landing?
Thanks for sharing, I learnt much from your videos.
What a fabulous life😀 never mind about the clouds it looked a good day out😋
Yeah any day out is a good day out really!
Thanks for posting 👍🏼
Thank you for watching!
Yep. Further evidence that, whilst kiwis are calm, modest, endearing birds, their flightless nature means they're happier when digging for grubs and worms than scratching around looking for lift...😁
lol so true!
great video mate, thanks for sharing!.. then I hear the word 'engine' - guess its good to have that as backup, you always know its there.
Oh yes, very relieved to have it that day :)
Penny for my (unsolicited) thoughts :
a) Doing anything with a low cloud base is always tough.
b) Climbing (2 minutes into the video) near a body of water/wet are is often tough
Thanks. I always enjoy your videos.
Good points!
Around 6:00. Aren't you afraid of going that low into the woods? How were you sure you would find some lift there, or maybe there are some landing areas I fail to see in the clip?
Yeah I was keeping a close eye on the way out of there! Landings were behind me
I’ve flown commercially for 20 years, but I’ve always wanted to do this!!!
I'm glad you got back to the field safely. Just wondering if Jill will feature this in the magazine?? Yes, I'm a stirrer.
Haha sadly no more magazine!
@@PureGlide ah bugga!!
Thank you for sharing this video and your experiences from this flight, Tim. An interesting situation, that even such promising, pretty good looking Cu do not create sometimes good enough lift to stay in the air...or probably you was already too low to use potentially such a lift, I am not sure here. But anyway - thank you for sharing it.
My pleasure! Thanks for watching
Enjoyed the video, awesome commentary love to watch your vids!
Much appreciated!
on the bright side the views were pretty!!
They sure were!
the stick is no spoon, keep it calm and dont be so nervous.
Great video Tim! 😁
Thanks! 😀
It's nice to know that the pros also end up against a ridge, barely maintaining altitude, thinking "f*ck, I need to pick a paddock". Not a good feeling eh?
A very common feeling :)
It amazes me that gliders can find thermals and updrafts while travelling long distances cross country. Do you look for flat bottomed clouds and ridge lines?
Can you fly a glider with a backup engine on a normal glider license or do you need a PPL?
Yeah exactly right, flat bottomed clouds are great! My engine is a turbo/sustainer, so I can’t launch with it. So no extra license needed, but I got lots of advice how to use it before trying it myself. If you have a self launching engine, then we have a separate rating to get for it.
So you get a "Tow" out & at some height or place you cut the ties.... after that I see you looking for thermals I guess so that you can
continue gaining more altitude but after all of these things are you trying to get to a certain landing area or hoping to make it? I'm
sorry for the dumb questions but I'm trying to get an idea here. Tow out, cut loose, search for thermals to climb, and then ride it
back to the landing zone? I'm oversimplifying this in an effort to understand the steps you are going thru? I recognize the search
for a good thermal but IDKnow what would be good nor so I know what the plan was had you found the thermal you looked for?
Then I learned you do have power(motor). Didn't know that & this is my 2nd video of yours(Yeah, I Subb'd Up) so I might get a
bit more info here. We shall see & thanks man, for not crashing ! peace
I have now watched a few videos of yours I should have known your a ozzy I am from the usa but the few ozzy's I have came across have been incredible Old Warpspeed being one and where you find him you will find a few other incredible ones Would love to go meet them face to face some day!
Just wondering your technique when motoring home. Did you try and minimise fuel used by climbing and glidiing saw tooth style or do you crruise on reduced throttle? Glad you made it back.
Yeah it was a slow sawtooth, I started the engine 3 times to ensure I got back
I think Tim's doesn't have a throttle, just an ignition on/off switch.
START YOUR ENGINE! Didn't have engines in my day, It was you against the elements from take off to landing. Didn't have mobiles either. I did end up in a Belgium jail on one occasion, no papers or passport, and they couldn't speak English. The fun of the game in those days was you didn't know where you would end up. Retrieve crews loved it fortunately.
I'm commenting here because this flight brought to mind one occasion when I was in caught in heavy sink in Gusty conditions and looking down at a similar but worse landscape than this one and no indication of wind direction. I could see only one short narrow strip that would take a glider and there were high trees on the approach. I needed extra speed on approach in case of wind shear and the Sky I was flying had spoilers, not airbrakes. I realised it was a cross wind from the left and fence posts near the end of the run, but the grass was long and very wet and the Sky continued skiing along on its skid. I had two choices, do nothing and engage the fence or right wing down to ground loop right. I did the second. But the wind was now behind me with my left aileron down. The glider wing quickly blew to the left - straight on top of the fence post. Of course it was repairable, but had that not happened, it would have been a brilliant recovery from a horrendous situation.
We only had the basic four windy instruments too, 'fly by your pants' was the order of the day. We had so much fun in the old days.
Awesome 😎 😊
Thanks 🤗
What is the Sailplane you are flying?
It's a Ventus cT with 16.7m wingspan
5:43 2 questions I have for you. Is that tube you used for oxygen? And if it is oxygen, did you have to use it because you were high in altitude?
Hi no oxygen needed that flight! Only about 10,000 feet it is needed, which doesn’t happen often in the North Island. The tube in video is likely the microphone boom
Also, What do the buttons at the top of your stick do? One, I'm sure, keys your mic
Correct! The other buttons control my flight computer, so I can change pages quickly and easily while flying.
What about the other racers; did lift crap-out for them out too?
For some, but a few managed to get around too!
Oh well …… good you gave it a crack
Looked like good conditions. Lucky you had an engine. When I used to fly, no engine.
I fly a pure glider so I'm always curious to see how having an engine influences your decisions. I'm pretty sure that without an engine I would not have put myself where you were at 8:00. On the other hand, you complete a number of XCs that I would not attempt, and sometimes you do it without starting the engine. The engine is a backup. Have you been flying lower and lower as the years go by?
I expect that probably one day, the engine will not start and we will have a video of your outlanding with the engine boom extended. Wishing you the best in advance of that day.
Hi yeah I've done over 80 out landings over the years, so I still fly to outlanding areas like I don't have an engine. Which is what you're meant to do. As you say it's just a matter of time before it doesn't start on me! And already landed back at the airfield with it up a couple of times.
@@PureGlide It's smart to be perfectly comfortable with landing out before you start flying a glider with an engine. I'll buy that you're no more willing to risk a landout now, than you were before you got your engine. I'm looking forward to seeing a video of you flying XC in an engine-less G1000 or Duo, even better if you're doing an instructional flight with a new XC pilot.
Yeah I should film a xcountry twin flight sometime, although I haven’t been doing many. I usually don’t film with students because I’m focused on them and the training, after all they are paying for it!
thx
Don't pilots thank the towing pilot after release?
What's the name of your field in NZ? I'd like to try flying around there in msfs
Hi that's Centennial Park, Taupo in this video. I normally fly from Matamata
@@PureGlide Thank you 🥂
Really interesting Tim and thank you for posting these videos. Newbie here… Can I ask a silly question? 11min into the video you flip up a mirror on the right of the cockpit. Is this to view your engine? Many thanks - SteveS
Yeah its so I can confirm the engine is up and stopped spinning
Engine?
How much is a "good used glider with engine"?
Hi about $80k NZD
Is gliding equal to, more, or less safe than motorized flight? I'm curious because, while it seems like it would be more dangerous, I wonder if that's actually the case. Since gliders are smaller, lighter weight, and not carrying all the fuel a motorized plane would have on board, my logic tells me that a glider seems like a better craft for an emergency landing. Then on the other hand, it also seems more likely that one would need to perform an emergency landing while gliding. Very curious. Anyone with facts on this, please chime in!
Also, is it common for gliders to have a small engine for situations such as this one? I was always under the impression that gliders operated soley on gravity and updrafts, after their initial tow up to gliding altitude. Thanks.
Hi here's the best information we've got on the topic:
chessintheair.com/the-risk-of-dying-doing-what-we-love/
Hope that helps!
And yes many new gliders sold do have sustainers or little engines these days. It just means you're not having to land in a field somewhere remote as often...
Im missing all the strings from last time 😅
Must have filmed this earlier!
How can it all go so wrong?! - Maybe cause u removed too many of the strings... bad karma.
I love these kind of clips. Your start was perfect but then u got trapped. Hard to get over it.
Im glad your engine is reliable.
Haha this was filmed before the yaw strings were added
@@PureGlide 😂
He doesn’t have an engine, it’s a glider.
@@gregdetwiler9220 It's a Ventus glider with a retractable engine in the fuselage
@@gregdetwiler9220 ruclips.net/video/T-KYoFGJp5o/видео.html
You've lost all your strings! :) :) :)
This was filmed before the yaw string video ;)
Lift base , it's allways in the circuit ...
Of course!
A video about the Emotional Ups and Downs of Gliding seems to tie in well with this.
Have a look at the video by: “Glide with Tom”: “How soothing is flying without an engine?”
It is Brilliant! 😄
once again one of the first to comment, and also again, love your vids
Thanks again!
👍🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺 AWESOME !!! 😁😁😁
Cheers!
Sometimes chicken, sometimes feathers.
Wise words
That was agonizing 😅
It was for me too!
Just a Friendly regional contest. What? No dog fights? ;)
Haha exactly!
Thought I saw the firing button on the control column...
had a look at your trace and couldn't understand why you didn't make contact with the clouds over Rangitoto until I checked your height AGL, 100m, you wouldn't go in there at that height. Bugger!
Yip just way too low!
If it’s waving to six and a half, stay at six and a half? 🤔
Couldn’t! It was only waving in that one spot that I could figure oht
Wouldn't it be more fun to not have the engines? I find that it concentrates the mind, in hangliding competition tasks.
Oh I've done plenty of landings in paddocks over the years, about 80 so far...
more yaw strings I reckon.
Obviously! This was filmed before the yaw strings so my lesson had not been learnt yet
Why is your phone covered for some of the video? I guess it's covered whilst you're on the task?
To stop it overheating, and then I was too busy to use it!
@@PureGlide ahh okay - I thought there might be some competition rule 🙂
Nah if I’m high and under control I might look to see where others are on the tracking, and it’s a backup if my main flight computer fails
Gliders are witchcraft.
I've always thought so too
But they’re such beautiful witches 😊😊😊
yeahh Buddy that is truth !
Oh dear. That whole flight was a Dog fight. :(
It sure was! Cheers
No more 100 strings? hahaha
Never fear, this was filmed before the yaw string video
@@PureGlide ah great, looking forward to the next flight then
I’m sorry but is it mandated that all glider pilots must wear those goofy hats? Will a pilot be ostracized if he shows up in a cap?
You're in luck, I made a video that explains everything about bucket hats ruclips.net/video/nuJiv2SyRkw/видео.html
A motor glider? Isn't that sort of sissy? In the 80's in the Reno area, I climbed from 6,000' to over 12,000' in one thermal in my hang glider. I was going up like a rocket and had to give it up. I was getting too cold wearing a tank top and shorts. A couple years ago I circled under a big cu in my Long EZ for about an hour, engine OFF.
Yeah I feel like such a sissy getting home in time for dinner. It just sucks!
@@PureGlide I agree!