Howard Fineman on Republican Nihilism (May 16, 2021)
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- The Republican Party has entered new territory. And it’s ugly.
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When I was a kid, I asked my mother what was the difference between Republican and Democrat. My mother took a moment, probably considering how to say it simply for a child, and she said. "Republicans care more about Money, and Democrats care more about people." After about 35 years, these words have held up.
My grandfather said the same when I asked. He was born in the 1880's.
Liz Cheney is going to try to get the Republican Party to return to being a Party that stands for something? I'm 60 years old and if she can pull that off it would be the first time in my lifetime that the Republican Party has stood for something.
The Republican Party in my memory has always stood for something since Regan, tax the middle class not the upper class, kill the unions & stop all social welfare.
No, that is not what she intends. That’s pretty funny though 😆😄😆
At this point, the Republican Party is not redeemable, it's way too deep in the lala land.
I would really worry about the country, though, because this mass insanity ain't over.
@@tracylemme1375 and lessen the tax on the wealthy and keep the races separate and keep women underfoot.
We should acknowledge Liz's unyielding support of one thing: Her father's first degree murder of a million five innocent Iraqi civilians.
"Cheney had 3 artificial hearts, two of which rejected him"! Your resignation has been our loss.
That joke should have come with a warning! If Al has said that while I was drinking milk, then milk would have been spewing.
Don't give up She's is doing good . I Believe She's Recognized Her past mistakes when She was support Donald Trump and now She is in THE RIGHT Direction
Was listening to this podcast on my evening walk and probably scared some fellow walkers when I burst into laughter at this comment. Miss you as our Senator Al!
Al is smart, funny, and knowledgeable! He certainly NEEDS to be in Congress again!❤️🙏🌹
@@bonnieikamas1201 I'm agree we need Him back
15:21 Anyone who still wants to be a member of Mitch McConnell's GOP is on the losing side. Vote out all of the grifters, 2022.
We're stuck with McConnell for 6 more years. Ugh!
Vote blue in 22!
I will.....only because there is no other viable choice.
@@reelreeler8778 Exactly, as an Independent I agree, that is all we can do until Trump is gone or the party moves on. There is no correct party, vote for what you want, not by party.
My impression is that the Confederates did not dispute the results of the election of Abraham Lincoln, they just didn't like the results.
Querttulop- There was a lot of dispute when Kansas voted to be a pro or anti state.
New York bussed tons of voters in there to vote practically over night to swing the election their way.
Kinda like Joe and Kamala are doing on the southern border...kinda, but different.
There was a candle boxfull of ballots that turned up missing in kansas if I remember right.
I'm not saying I'm pro slavery, I'm saying elections have been rigged in our country for a long time.
The mail in and computers will taint votes from now on.
@@afellowamericanafellowamer5317 Busses did not exist in 1860, so I am very skeptical that New York bussed voters to Kansas.
@@qwertyuiopgarth jesus....it's an expression.
Duh.
Do a little research, learn some real history. If the lefties haven't deleted the history they don't like, that is.
@@afellowamericanafellowamer5317 “Our army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do.” - renowned military historian Donald Trump, describing airport security back in 1775.
@@afellowamericanafellowamer5317 Has a candidate you voted for ever won a rigged election?
Al’s impersonation of McConnell is absolutely perfect.
Spot on! 🤣🐢
6:02 Trump is insane. Anyone who still thinks he's good for the USA is insane. The GOP is insane. Liz Cheney woke up. Must have been a shock. She's been in Congress too long also. I want to see every personal investment portfolio in Congress. How many people in Congress have money in tax shelters outside of the United States? Truth Bless America. 🇺🇸
Still the best Mitch voice I’ve heard lol
Absolutely the best Mitch the bitch ever! Spot on with the cadence, voice and the delivery. Great job Senator you crack my balls.
Another great one! I think you do underestimate the GOP's capacity for long-term strategy. They have worked hard over 40 years to weaken our federal system, except national security, and they have been successful. Electing entertainers, con-men, and clowns to federal office is their victory lap.
That is the hindsight we all should have gained by now. In an effort to not pay taxes on their own great fortunes, anybody remaining in the GOP government who does not consider themself a full-on fascist needs to know they are at the very least fascist adjacent, standing with their toe already over the line, enablers all.
We want AL, we want Al, we want Al. Stay safe
Amen.
We need Al , We need Al
@@jayhalley2642 Al doesn't talk about crime in Minneapolis does he?
@@afellowamericanafellowamer5317 what are you worried about?
@@jayhalley2642 the collapse of our monetary system.
Hyper inflation. The dollar being worthless, like monopoly money.
That's what happens when you just keep giving it away.
The violent crime that's rising and the cops are not allowed to do anything about it because they'll be slapped with a lawsuit or criminal charges.
Unable to protect myself my family and home because of gun grabbers like Joe who already has stated he wants to take our guns away, leaving us at the mercy of looters and arsonist criminals who we have seen are willing to murder each other, loot and destroy.
If a Jew who denounces the Israeli mistreatment of Palestinians is a "self-hating Jew," then I guess we Catholics who denounce abusive priests are "self-hating Catholics." 😜 NOT! 😜 Real love disciplines against sin. Ask any good parent. Note how our shared scripture addresses real hate: "Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart, thou shalt in any wise rebuke him and not suffer sin upon him." -Leviticus 19:17
Someone told me that The Israeli government's reaction was like how the US would respond if Vancouver bombed Seattle. 'Xept, that isn't quite right. These aren't 2 separate countries, and the Israeli national government wants to keep it that way.
Al, please separate out your discussion with Howard about your recommendation to change the filibuster. More people need to hear that!
Let's make, "any idiot, and that includes Ron Johnson, knows..." the new catch phrase of 2022!!!
Always so quick with the name calling.
You lefties are all about emotional reactions.
@@afellowamericanafellowamer5317 and you’re just A-OK with how the republicans are acting? Geeze!!!
@@afellowamericanafellowamer5317 Pot calling the kettle black much?
@@cjp1950 anyone who name calls loses credibility with me whatever side they are on. I don't do it.
@@afellowamericanafellowamer5317 Interesting name you chose. Just what a gaslighting Russian troll SHOULD choose.
That was great! A breath of fresh air and sanity. Thanks Al.
Good morning Judy.. you're looking yummy. 😊 you're true beauty of a woman my dear, wish I have a beautiful woman like you in my life loneliness will go away from me 😊😍, how are you doing today... hope you're feeling good and hope i can get to know you better.
My favorite photograph of Sen. Franken is one that doesn't even capture his chiseled good looks.
It's the picture of Al, bowing in respect, at the awe-inspiring crash site memorial honoring the late Senator Paul Wellstone near Eveleth, MN.
If you find yourself near Duluth on your summer road trips, please consider a short drive up Hwy 53 to the Iron Range. Paul's memory will take your breath away. You know, for a change.
.*I
Bob Johnson...Yep...tug those heartstrings.
It's been winning votes from weak minds for a long time
@@afellowamericanafellowamer5317 Thanks, Fellow! Always nice to hear from a devout Christian. ✝
@@bobjohnson904 I don't bring a photographer and press agent with me for a photo op when I try to live my life the right way.
@@afellowamericanafellowamer5317 Mocking the murder of a courageous U.S. Senator, his wife, daughter and five others, and the grief expressed by another true American patriot, at the scene of the crime, captures your humanity perfectly!
Jesus weeps.
Thanks Al for showing both sides of Liz Cheney and all else here.
People like Stacey Abrams have to start drumming up enthusiasm for midterm voting NOW to get solid majorities in both The House and Senate. It’s possible even though not the norm
YOU need to start drumming up enthusiasm for the midterm elections!
Yes ... and in local races and state houses across the nation as well.
I love your podcasts, Al. You really miss an opportunity, you could do a corner segment call ALL Franken Sense.
🤗🤣🤗😂🤗🤣🤗😂❗
Al Frankensence I love it, brilliant!
Put Al back in congress! we NEED him!! The GOP have totally lost their souls, their minds, their morals...
Socialism is simply a mid-point on a line between capitalism and communism; essentially every actual govt has been socialist, with some ownership of property and also some efforts in common.
Sad state of affairs when simply telling the truth is heroic.
most of us do the right thing every day. that doesn’t make us a hero. LC did the right thing. she’s not a hero. she spoke up. she spoke out. she did the right thing. i guess we feel that that’s so unusual today that all of the sudden she’s a hero. she’s not. and let’s remember who she is outside of this event.
My opinion is that she shows courage and determination. Hopefully her stance will bring some other ReTrumplicans into reality
Elissa Weiztman
At least she was allowed to speak. They're so scared of Trumps popularity they won't allow him to speak
I enjoyed the monologue.
On the question of being anti semitic, I always liked the Jewish people, but I don't like the prime minister of Israel and his politics..
Your right on point. Al was searching for a rationalization for calling the Dems anti-sematic and its criticizism of Netin-YAHOO that gets automatically called hate speech. Its old OLD communism where people yell at each other for not clapping loud enough...I read about it in The Gulag Archipelago.
Thanks Al!
Love Al's Mitch. It is so blubbery good.
You need to be entertained by a former SNL personality.
Don't confuse that with a leader.
@@afellowamericanafellowamer5317 Sort of like being scammed by a former game show host, eh?
Blubbery good, outstanding!
Rich donors became rich in the current environment, and Rich people fear any change, because any "change" might make their wealth shrink. Theses rich donors give to Republican politicians and Republican politicians block any and all change.
As a European, listening to the averrage Joe American talk about socialism is the funniest thing imaginable...cringeworthy and frustrating, yes, but hilarious nevertheless😂😂
Thanks so much Al!!
Everything I learned living with the 'John Birch Society' tells you that once the Party talks about something everyone should be concerned with.... THEY ARE DOING IT EVERYWHERE. WHY? because the system allows The WEALTHY to buy our candidates, who make laws to keep people from VOTING! - m.
Marvin Gershowitz-
The wealthy are the bad guys,eh?
Good thing Obama stuck with his peeps in Chicago, right?
Obama moved to the richest whitest community in the country.
But Michelle, Oprah and Megan have been so mistreated by this cruel world. 😢
@@afellowamericanafellowamer5317I don't support Obama. He's like you and your political family
So is Hillary who are YOUR POLITICAL Family
There is nothing appealing about GREED and it should be a pin so that the Republican's can take the U.S. Flag Pin off of their coats.
I Volunteered for the Draft and to watch John McCain treated like he was still a PRISONER in Vietnam is disgusting...
But for those like TRUMP (never serve) it's very appealing to the Republican Party.
@@Labor_Jones Trump never started any wars while he was in office.
Lots of people avoided service in Nam.
My draft number was #2.
I graduated high school in 1973.
Lucky Nixon got us out of that war.
But the lefties just want to remember Watergate.
Nixon got the same treatment from the media that Trump got.
Bill Clinton or Obama never served.
Don't even go there. Don't talk about slavery or Jim Crow.
Our country is in big trouble now. The border and paying people to not work are two extremely urgent issues we need to fix NOW.
Don't throw vaccine and covid numbers at me.
This is about now.
@@Labor_Jones You don't know who my family is.
You assume you know.
When Liz Cheney came out against Trump, Halliburton smiled.😤😤
Thank you Al for a most entertaining interview.
remember the grouco character prof wagstaff at huxley college singin 'whatever it is i'm against it'...
Yes force them on their feet so they are forced to actually debate! I love watching committee work and actual discussion that's conducted. I absolutely hate this grand standing without standing.
“Any idiot, and that includes Ron Johnson” THANK YOU from a lifelong ‘Sconnie!
Big Jewish Thing? Come on... were you guys working on the "Space Laser"? Why wasn't I invited?
2 of my favorite people on the political front. No wonder Howard's 1st appearance was a big hit. Thanks for another GREAT conversation.
If the GOP is good at anything, it's doing 'what worked last time'. This is gonna be the norm.. for every election.. until it stops drumming up attention and donations.
Just impossible to get better than Al
When will you know?? When they say no, like they always do ..
I'm an atheist who leans liberal and progressive (but not always). Anyhow, even if I was a fascist righty I'm just too damn lazy to storm the capitol.
and that includes Ron Johnson lol
"Any idiot--and that includes Ron Johnson..."
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Al Franken for PRESIDENT!!!!! Pleaseeee!!!!!!
You’re the BEST! Great guest. My favorite is your imitation of McConnell!
Al this is a super podcast! I especially love the Mitch mime. Mitch says stupid shit all the time,easy to satirize.Irony is the sharpest tool in the tool box.You can adopt the character of the undertaker of American Democracy.Bust the artificial unconstitutional relic of the Filibuster.
I loved the Chaney impersonation !
And I did not know the 2 heart rejections !
I guess it’s like a summer home in a bad neighborhood - you would want to stay there! What good heart would want to reside in Chaney !!
Cheney’s fight against Trumpism in the GOP is a very lonely (and losing) fight.
Brilliant!
Al Franken. I never miss a show. I love, love what you are. You go boy! Thank you from my heart. Sending you big love from Beth in Mancos CO.
Hey Al get Chris Matthews on.
I never spent a single penny on McDonnell's bridges. I went west on I-64 to Indiana, then up I-265. Only a couple of miles longer and costs nothing. =) If Kentuckians will only elect someone that fights against their best interests, why should I help them?
Early childhood education is one of the best investments any country can make. All day junior and senior kindergarten would help so many people get back to work and help kids get a good start on their education. It helps to identify any learning issues at an early age. If the funding is there these issues can be dealt with before the serious learning starts in grade 1.
There is no real qualified immunity in the law books as LAW btw
How about bringing back the fairness doctrine so that when fox or newsmax or msnbc airs any opinion piece they have to right then and there allow equal time for rebuttal. Oh yeah, and while we're at it ban offensive language, not ideas, just foul language on any public forum.
The Fairness Doctrine never, ever worked that way. But even if it worked at all (it didn't), why should broadcasters have lesser press freedom than print publishers?
The legal justification for the Fairness Doctrine was the scarcity of dial space using the airwaves. That no longer is a technological problem, so the legal justification is no longer valid.
How did the Fairness Doctrine work? Radio and television stations gave people a few minutes after the news to read their letters to the editor. That was it. That is all the Fairness Doctrine did.
What kept broadcasters middle of the road wasn't a doctrine imposed from above. In those days of few stations and fewer networks, broadcasters were seeking to attract the largest audience by offending no one. The proliferation of channels from cable, satellite and digitization changed the ratings game to niche marketing. So a small, zealous audience became more achievable and more profitable than a huge heterogeneous audience. That is what drove the rise of far right talk radio. The Fairness Doctrine never mattered, nor does its absence.
Al your impersonations made me lmao!
There are many intelligent agnostics, aetheists, christians and jews. We all have brains that need to be exercised vigorously every day.
That comment by Howard is everything. It used to be people only saw those they wanted to but now they see “others” everywhere and they’re scared. Scared the others will do to them what they did to the others.
Thanks, Al. Your podcasts are always fascinating and insightful.
Still can't get enough of your Mitch impression
I love the opening music!!!
32:58 Medicare is pitiful because people can't afford the extra parts. There's not much socialism left.
U said it though , she pulled a red , she accuses blues of being antisemitic to attempt to create a split of some percentage of that 80% , everything from red playbook is about division and getting people to believe in manufactured hate and fear ...
NO NO NO , those other red congressfolks DO KNOW IT WAS TREASON , they are just telling themselves that its the kind of treason the founding fathers did, "its treason because we seek freedom" and they want freedom from truth because their fabricated reality is more important than the actual well being of our democracy ..
Thank you for posting this podcast.
Love you Al. You shouldn’t have just quit. We need you.🥲
He didn't just quit.He stepped down due to inappropriate touching of a female soldier while she was asleep.IIRC
He never touched her he just made it look that way foe the camera.
@@s.z.6200 He done a fine job then : )
GREAT!
Thank you Al. please keep up the good work .
Always love hearing from Howard! 🤗
Another wonderful podcast!💜
Not just that they don't want anymore... They want to keep what they have and make sure nobody else has anymore than they have now. The more the less fortunate have, the less they feel like they have. And they just can't stand it. Anyone else’s success detracts from their own. And they're just not having it.
Their power over the rest of us depends on the fear of utter destruction that every non-wealthy American lives with daily. No way they are going to let the rest of us achieve freedom from that fear of ending up homeless and dying of a preventable disease-- it leads the laborers to get less servile.
What a remarkable life arc, Mr. Franken. You have been a part of my life since I got HBO in 1981 and saw you introduce the Grateful Dead in their concert movie. Carry on sir! You are the Sam Clemens I missed by some 40+ years.
Wait until my friend Bigus Dickus hears about this.
Howard Fineman is amazing.
Good morning Myra.. you're looking yummy. 😊 you're true beauty of a woman my dear, wish I have a beautiful woman like you in my life loneliness will go away from me 😊😍, how are you doing today... hope you're feeling good and hope i can get to know you better.
I'm glad you're on the good team!
Ty💙😂
2 funny as always
4 a change~lol
Always great “for a change”🤣 and always better than the last one. 👍🏻
I miss your honesty Al. Please come back.
I love that tuning in to hear Fineman on Republican nihilism, a serious and potentially horrendous political happening, I hear Leo Kottke playing the kind of music that is relentlessly light and happy. Happy music, not jazz. Franken did not hire Lenny Pickett, the SNL saxophonist. Jazz infers the downer aspects of life. This is happy.
You should give Stan Getz a try then....
@@mossydog6968 Saw Getz twice at keystone Korner in Bay area and once in Manhattan. What is really cool is you promoting Getz! Getz had the best tone on tenor, a true innovator. I loved his work with the late Chick. He was a model for Coltrane He laid back too much for me, bringing its own downer aspect. I played with Lenny Pickett on the SNL band. He may have never played too little! Pickett was a student of Bert Wilson whose band I played with for decades. Bert WIlson is unique in the jazz world, or I should say in the jazz underworld, since he died 8 years ago. All the best cats, Joe Lovano, Ernie Watts, Benny Golson, studied with Bert to learn his approach to multiphonics and extreme altissimo. He played 3 note chords on his tenor and alto and bass clarinet, He could play notes in the top octave of a piano. Pickett plays off the right end of the piano! On Tenor! THANKS FOR THE GETZ SUGGESTION
RIP Howard Fineman. A great journalist who told the truth. He will be missed.
Keep doing what you are doing. It works for me.
Any network with heart.
Hi Mr. Franken! I have this really weird memory of you doing a video years and years ago of you singing a song called "President Gore is my next door neighbour"...am I remembering that correctly? If I am, and it was you...would you post that here? I would love to hear it again.
This is crazier as hell.......Never forget 06 January 2021.
Al Franken for Independent President 2024!!!
45: "I was gonna do infrastructure, but you talked MEAN to me!"
Dear Mr. Franken, Thank you.
Regards, Bob Green
Fascinating ... thanks
Good morning Jeannette.. you're looking yummy. 😊 you're true beauty of a woman my dear, wish I have a beautiful woman like you in my life loneliness will go away from me 😊😍, how are you doing today... hope you're feeling good and hope i can get to know you better.
Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard
What's the matter with Harvard?
one of 5 that have a lock on our system.. harvard yale columbia princeton stanford
Nothing. The problem is republicans regard it as elitist and thus are supposed to eschew those with a Harvard education. That they then excuse the fact that people like Hawley is hypocritical.
His McConnell impersonation is spooky good
“Made his bed between the rock and hard place” - that’s good!
Perfect Mitch the T**** *itch impersonation.
Fineman and Franken should have more than 21,208 ears (assuming every viewer to this point has 2 functioning ears) listening to their insight and suggestions. I had to drop other plans for my Sunday afternoon, clean house and listen. I miss informed discussions. When both have a sense of humor, lie Fineman and the other guy, it's priceless. (Which is a good thing because it seems only Jews are willing to pay for the privilege.)
He said two artificial hearts rejected him😂😂
"Any idiot, and that includes Ron Johnson" - brilliantly snide.
"red is the new green", yikes!
“It’s all about Fear for the GOP” Yep
It’s like Lincoln said of the Confederates at Cooper Union:
“Rule or Ruin is their creed.”
Brilliant take on Moscow Mitch lol, loved it!
Al, I wish you would get a Sunday evening show on msnbc reminiscent of the old Smothers Brothers show. Not to steal from them, no. They are my heroes but right now America needs it and I have confidence you could pull it off. Best idea I've had all day. And many many more days. It's getting dark out there.
Good for Cheney. Well spoken.
44 minutes into this podcast is to enable , give voice to, debate facts amen
The straight man Al needed