CZ P10C - Is It Still Relevant?
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- The CZ P10C is like 7 years old at this point so one has to ask...is this pistol still a relevant choice considering all the upgrades in 2A tech the last few years. Today we start our series diving into one of the more popular and affordable offerings from CZ
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It’s relevant to me, that’s for sure. It’s my favorite striker fired pistol ever. I will never get rid of mine.
I feel like for the price of these things they are really hard to beat. Accurate, reliable comfortable in the hands…lots of options for upgrades. Great value for sure
Same. I like mine. Trigger is nice. I’ve contemplated putting trijcon tritium sights on mine, just because mine only glows if it’s been exposed to high light for a period of time. They glow pretty when it does, but I work nights and would like the tritium.
Also, crossbreed reckoning and this pistol goes together very well. It’s a good holster/ gun combo and the reckoning holster I have will fit a Glock 19 as well incase you ever decide to carry Glock.
If CZ used 1/8 the marketing energy into the P10 Series as Springfield did with the Echelon, the P10 would be on top of the striker-fired world, where it belongs.
Haha ya SA went crazy. The “influencer bundles” they gave out were over the top. Total retail on those kits were roughly 1700 and they gave out sooooo many of them. That’s why everyone had the matching Echelon with the RMR, surefire light and safariland holster. It was a payoff for positive reviews. That’s not how CZ operates, they tend to let the product speak for its self which I respect. That’s part of why I bought one to start this series with. For me, in this size range it’s a hard pick between the P10C and the 4” M&P but the CZ has a lot going for it
Meh, it's good but not top
I still love my p10c. After owning a few glocks , this gun in particular got me to finally say I like this better than the Glock 19. I also have a few Canik’s & FN509 but it hasn’t topped my Cz p10c.
I actually really like the FN509 but also I feel like it’s overpriced. I need to buy one though lol. The CZ is a great choice for a polymer gun and I’m looking forward to making more content with this gun
I have one with iron sights and another with red dot. Love both. Selling my Glocks.
I keep one pistol that takes glock mags…not a glock though lol. You never know, if shit hits the fan glock mags will be the ones easiest to find
Proud owner of the 1st gen P10c and P10f. Best striker fire polymer handgun that I have shot and I own the 1st gen M&P and 2.0's, VP9, Sig P320's. I send my slide off to Jagerwerks for the chaffer serrations on the front slide, optic cut. I run mine with the P10c frame and the P10f slide, best combo out of any polymer and super accurate.
I’m liking the P10C. It has so much going for it. This one’s currently being upgraded and I should have it out testing next weekend with the new additions but really you can’t go wrong with a CZ
Compare the P10 C with P-07. Come back soon.
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@@johndeere1951a unfortunately I don’t have a p-07 to make that comparison. I actually think a closer and more fair comparison is the P10C vs M&P 2.0
M&P >
@blackout.ghost718 bruh, I love the M&P 2.0 line especially my Floyd's custom Kraken 5 inch with the commander port but the P10F slide is stock and it runs like butter and very accurate.
I've had this pistol for about 5 years now better than any Glock I've ever had I spent 34 years in the Army I brought this with me as a combat weapon in Iraq I love the czp10c I've been able to go and lay down rounds the shot groups of the size of a quarter or smaller putting all the rounds on Target very easy to put lead on target with this weapon
It’s a great pistol. I look forward to seeing the new version CZ is working on
@@360TacticalSolutionswhat new version are they working on is it a p10c 2nd gen?
@@derekquinones8614 it sounds like there’s a new version in the works but there’s no solid information about what to expect with it
TFB TV went to Cz headquarters and talked with the Czech designer of the P10c and in the end of the video he said that they are working on the next generation p10 series already and to wait for more details.
Lol I saw that video like two days ago. I think it popped up on my feed because I posted a CZ video. It makes sense though, I mean look at the M&P. It’s been out as long as the P10C and they just did the metal frame version of the M&P to boost interest in the lineup and revive sales. 7 years is quite a while in the current state of the market. My guess is…2025 for a new P10C
I hope they don’t screw up the ethos
The slide stop gets better over time
It’s a shape and texture thing. Ive swapped it out with an Apex slide stop, way better. New video in the works
Thx.. The rigid slide stop is my only complaint.
i got mines a year ago i finally put a holosun eps on it and, its perfection at this point i will say with all the mods i've done to it so far its my #1 recommended you it really affordable if you're on a budget and they make a standard 17 round mag , do not sleep on this pistol
I actually just filmed an update to this video yesterday. I went the other direction with mine though…Holosun 507Comp lol. Yes it’s massive and some might say too much but I like the way it’s turning out. Apex trigger and other various parts, it’s a great gun.
My P-09, P-07, Shadow 2 and 75 have never (seriously never) had a single hiccup. I guess if you press the trigger, and it goes pew.. it's still relevant.
Obviously I mean relevant in terms of keeping up with current design, tech and manufacturing processes. I don’t subscribe to the idea that “it goes bang so it’s good enough” lol. I’m also not saying people should buy a new gun every time one comes out. People unlike you who aren’t fully invested into the CZ brand and ecosystem who are looking for a 4” pistol…those are the ones that’s aimed at.
@360TacticalSolutions Agreed. I don't believe that good is good enough. For instance, my Hellcat Pro is good, but for me, it's not good enough. So, like you, the modding begins. I was actually going to purchase the P-10c for my newest yet not so new EDC, but something drew me towards the Hellcat Pro. It's a great system, but like all my systems, I mod to tailor my wants and needs.
@@ATL_Rider79 I’d like to see CZ make a slimline version. This exact gun except shrink it to 1” thick. That would be a welcome addition to their lineup for sure
@360TacticalSolutions Oh for sure. A 1" or sub 1" system would definitely be a welcomed addition. One of the reasons I went the Hellcat Pro.
With your extensive knowledge and time put into the Hellcat, not subjectively BUT objectively, what's the best trigger for minimal take up, and predictable brake, best reset that you have installed?
They are on sale for about $350-380 on the internet and locally in my area, which is a great deal for what you get in my opinion. I already have a ton of good striker fired compact 9’s so it would just be redundant for me to buy one of these.
Agreed. I have 3 M&P, SA Echelon and two HCP, HK VP9…honestly it’s a long list lol. I think though for someone new that wants to get into firearms or doesn’t already own a bunch of pistols the P10C has a lot going for it
@@360TacticalSolutions I have 1 or 2 of every good one on the market. I need to thin out my collection and keep the one that shoots best for me.
@@KENAHIGHLANDER the one that shoots best for you is always the one you should keep
The slide stop will loosen up. I like the slidestop locking on the inside and not by a notch.
lol not my first rodeo. I actually put like 1500 rounds through it before upgrading any parts. Still stiff, still flat against the frame, shitty ergonomics and texture. Ill say this much, the Apex parts are a welcome upgrade to the P10C
Now that I''m done watching...YES! The answer is YES! In all seriousness, just like you, I now have it as a close second to my Hellcat Pro for CCW. I really wish that CZ would put out an updated version of it considering how most of their poly guns are now marked "discontinued" (on their website), dump that stupid P10M in the trash and replace it with a slim line double stacked version of the current P10C (which they can name P10 Slim...I should trade mark that), while keeping the other dimensions somewhat the same overall. But what do I know about guns?!
Exactly my thoughts. I version of the P10C that’s the same thickness as a HCP would be a contender for sure. Now here’s the question…leave the barrel alone or send it off to be ported 🤔
@@360TacticalSolutions I'd say to get it ported
@@beasmode18Im really considering sending it off to Floyds Custom Shop and having them work some magic on it
@@360TacticalSolutions I have the P10s and i am sending it off in a week
I’d want them to go the route that Canik did with the mc9. Slimmer than the typical polymer compact 9s but ever so slightly thicker than the p365 type slimline guns so it can accept the same mags as the full size guns. I want to buy in to a platform where my summer carry and my winter carry take the same mags.
Cz would get all my money if they did that. My p10f is the best striker fired pistol I ever ever shot.
Right now im experiencing the P-07 & P-09, borh Suppressor Ready models for maximun barrel lengths, and 17 & 21:round magazines respectively .
Fantastic accuracy, stock right out of the case. I wish these had the slightly fuller grip of the P10 striker fire frame.
CZ's are great.
Definitely underrated in the world of polymer striker fired pistols. Everyone knows you can't beat their metal frame pistols but for some reason their polymer guns don't get the same love
lol, just picked one up for 328.00
Can’t go wrong with that price!
Hell of a price right there
They cost 1k where I live
@@VastardokKukiao good god thats expensive
I carry it for the last 7 years almost daily. It is great and I am very accurate with it. I have been wanting to go smaller for a while and considering the Hellcat Pro and this is how I got to this channel. In my country I cannot own more than one gun and mostly cannot upgrade it. Otherwise I would keep it forever. I just wonder how shooting the Pro will be for me as a stock only option (I know you changed a lot of stuff in it).
Anyway, It is a great gun and I could not recommend it enough. Thousands of rounds with literally zero malfunctions.
Only being able to own one gun is a tough position to be in. My advice would be to stick with the CZ. I find it handles much better than the Hellcat Pro. If I could only own one of the two and it couldnt be modified or have parts changed out my choice would be the CZ. Being able to modify and upgrade the guns makes a lot of difference
Love the p10c. Im a cz fan tho
Haha nothing wrong with that.
Yes. Still my go to pistol. Even today, it has a great price as well.
The price drop has made it even more attractive
Most definitely relevant. Love cz pistols. I just recently purchased p10c Optic version, i plan on doing some future upgrades floyds custom magwell/ porting/ mount a holosun on mine. Great videos as always.
I actually just finished installing all the Apex parts on this one. Im going to run 500 rounds or so through it and then I have the Floyds magwell on the desk to install after that. Still waiting on an optic though.
@360TacticalSolutions very kool. I agree with you on the oem slide release its horrible. Ima have to upgrade to apex as well.
She was my first. So, you know how that goes.
Haha ya I know that feeling
Slide release breaks in after a bit and I did have to alter the angle of my thumb to get it to work in the beginning
lol I definitely broke the gun in but ultimately I decided to change it out to an Apex
Believe I read somewhere here on YT that this model CZ is about to be refreshed.
Guess I'll be waiting and hoping,
The price drop is a big indication of that. I wouldn’t doubt it if we see an updated version within the next year or so
@@360TacticalSolutions ... I was hoping in a month or so.
@@hmdwn not likely. I would have expected that they would have announced it at SHOT show this year. Thats when everyone announces upcoming products. You never know though lol…it is CZ, they might try and sneak something in there
They just refreshed the P07, calling it a P09 compact i believe but honestly i like the original better
I still think it's a nice gun even in this day and age.
My two small criticisms would be to make the front sight post dovetailed and moveable.
And to add one or two more picatinny slots under the barrel otherwise it is still a very good pistol.
😎🇦🇺
I definitely feel like another slot on the rail would be a good addition. Little more versatility for accessories. I don’t know the front sight post needs to be moved though. The design is actually pretty good. It’s locked into position at center of barrel. The problem with doing dovetail is it’s nearly impossible to get a sight perfectly centered, then you have to do the same in the rear. In this case your front is centered and any adjustment that has to be done is done in the rear which makes it easier to dial in if there ate issues with accuracy
I’m looking forward to buying one again I sold my first one.
It's a solid gun. I just put a bunch of upgrades on mine. I should have a follow up video posted in the next couple weeks
I'm only a min in.. I think your gonna like it .
I’ll say this, it’s definitely not an M&P but as far as striker fired pistols go I’m ranking it really close for a 4” gun. I like the aggressive grip texture a lot.
Awesome vid. We just picked up the P10 F OR SR. It was on sale for $407.00. We thought why not, we love threaded barrel, OR pistols, with 21 round mags and supressor height sights. The only crappy thing is paying $65 for the plate. Look forward to seeing your follow-up.
Ya I mean even with my 360TS discount code at C&H Precision it still stings a bit buying a plate for this gun. On the other hand I just remind myself that a staccato plate is like 140 and I guess I cant complain lol.
@@360TacticalSolutions lol. Good point!
By the way, your video regarding Floyd's Porting for the M&P competitor has the comments turned off. Thought you might want to know.
RUclips has been doing this to us too. Really stinks. Per one of our viewer's requests, we sent ours barrel out to Floyd's a few weeks ago. Just got it back today. We're excited to try it out.
@@The2AExperiment that's really weird. Just went and looked and comments are on. I think theres a glitch somewhere causing videos to seem like comments are off. Ive noticed a couple videos from channels I follow where they had comments off when the channel never does that.
That competitor barrel is pretty sweet ported. I wanted to take mine out this weekend but it's pissing down rain and I don't feel like tromping around in the muck at my shooting spot lol. Your going to love that port job
Love mine. I have a few videos on it.
Going pretty well so far. Next weekend I film volume 2 in my CZ series
P10c is a solid pistol, as is the pP10s. I became a fanboi because of that, its my top pistol I recommend. Extremely reliable and accurate, and the cost is amazing. It's also way more ergonomic than a Glock which its often compared. The other benefit over the glock, the grip angle is much more natural, it just points well. I also love that i can share all my cz mags with it, i live in a commie state, so its a big concern. My con, the grip texture, i must have girly hands, its pretty intense, i solved it with pro talon grips and that was the game changer to me. Trigger is excellent, I have about 4k rounds through my p10s and almost 1k through my p10c which i recently switched to for my edc.
I will say, that slide "stop" is really just a slide lock, but it does loosen up overtime, also, if you put your mag in with a little force, it will send the slide forward automatically.
Slide stop, slide lock, slide release…everyone uses all three terms interchangeably to a point that one way or another someone is going to comment on which word is “correct” lol. In any event, Im sure it will loosen over time but I swapped over to the Apex one, Ive made a few changes to it since this video.
Seems every smith I have has a stiff slide release especially with the magazine in
Nice review, love the Subaru
Thanks. The Subaru has been pretty good for hitting the gravel logging roads out in the hills looking for spots to go shooting 😂
@@360TacticalSolutions Yeah I’m looking around for a decent 4wd daily. Not that I necessarily need it but it’s convenient when the time comes for a beach trip or out on some trails. I’ve always liked the Subarus. Great vid again!
Would you rather get a p10c or a p10f for self defense?
Id go P10C over P10F. One of the most widely used handguns out there is the Glock 19 which is essentially in that same size of the P10C. People pick the G19 over the G17 because of versatility. The G17 being the same size more or less as the P10F. The G19 and P10C are great guns to carry concealed while still giving you a 15round capacity, recoil isnt bad and they are accurate. Moving up to a P10F or G17 size gun doesnt give you any advantages. Sure it holds 2 more rounds but the grip is bigger which is going to make it less of an advantage in concealment. Sure you get a longer barrel but there isnt enough recoil reduction or increased accuracy with those larger guns to make enough advantage to lean toward them.
Basically a 4” gun like the G19, M&P 2.0 or the P10C is a great “do it all” type gun. You can use it outside the waistband like a duty style gun but you can also conceal it. You get a great magazine capacity. You get accuracy and a firearm that handles really well. The only reason I would go P10F is if I wanted to shoot somewhat competitively or if I had a job where I carried a firearm like armored truck driver or something. Other than that I’ll take the 4” every time.
@@360TacticalSolutions thank you for the reply🤙🏾
@@NATUREBOYP I’m always glad to lend my opinion
It better be! I still want one!
It’s got a hell of a lot of life left in it for sure. I think they are gearing up for an updated version but even if they launched one now after I have bought this one…id still be happy with the one I have. Not to say I wouldnt also buy the updated version lol
@@360TacticalSolutionsI just found this gun online for $350 which seems like a good deal I don’t know if I should wait for the updated model I got a p365 I’m going to sell and purchase this Cz or the newer model if possible
@@derekquinones8614 at 350 it’s a hell of a deal right now. I don’t see anything wrong with picking one up now
Just got one from Grab A Gun brand new for $320.
That’s a great deal
This might be the first time I comment on a video before watching it... TALK TO ME!!!
Haha
Hell ya!!!
I joined the club 🤷🏼♂️
CZ Shop has a lot of parts for this pistol.
I’ve actually already got it fully upgraded with Apex parts. This video was filmed like two weeks ago. Getting ready to film part 2
Semi , holds bullets . Relevant.
Did you watch the video or are you commenting strictly on the title?
Is it normal that the slide stop lever has to be operated so extremely tightly?
When new, it takes a lot of force to operate. Over time they will lighten up a bit
$390.00 case, 3 backstraps, 2 15 rnd mags, steel night sites. It feels great, shoots great, carry’s great, durable. Relevant? Of course it is.
$350 for the standard version, $430 for optic ready…damn good deal. Im excited to see what CZ has cooking for the updated version though
That's my baaaby! 🥹😢 with suppresssor height sights, P10C and Olight
I added a few upgrades to it and filmed an update video. Hoping to finish the edit and have it released by end of the week
Coming from a man with many glocks
I did opt out of mag compacitated for a cz p10c sr or.
Its better than a glock out the box for sure. And shes reliable and a shooter.
And 200 less cheaper than glocks
And its notna canik 🤣 or a dagger.
365 flux only reason y i want a sig.. other than thay i would fucking never.. id rather a walther or echelon over any sig
I hate sig lol. Not a fan at all. I do have an Echelon and it’s pretty good but I would say the CZ is superior. I added a bunch of upgrades to the P10C, actually I have a video set to go public tomorrow morning with the upgrades. All in all it’s a great gun. I should have bought one sooner
@@360TacticalSolutions I had a f when it first dropped. But sold it. Now looking for another
CZ P10C or S&W M&P Shield+? I’m a beginner and can’t decide which to get
P10C is more the equivalent to the 4” M&P 2.0
Shield plus is smaller, shorter grip and lower capacity. Not to mention shorter barrel. I would go rent them at an indoor range and try them out first
@@360TacticalSolutions not gonna lie I barely understood anything you just said (bc I’m a beginner) but I appreciate the response! I know they are very different guns and I do plan on using them both at a range but my local gun range doesn’t have the P10 for rent so I’m just trying to figure out as much of a comparison as I can with the shield. I have small hands, no experience, and will only use it for life or death self defense if that helps!
@@Stingraypress everyone has to start somewhere, best place to start is asking people who have experience. The P10C is a great gun but much more bulky than a shield plus. If you plan on carrying the gun I would say the Shield has the advantage of being better to carry. People do carry the P10C but the shield is going to be more comfortable and easier to conceal. As far as comfort in the hand most people would lean toward the CZ. It fills the hand better and is more comfortable to shoot. It also has a little less recoil because of its larger size.
Personally I would go for the P10C because it’s more versatile. It’s a better “all around” gun. It can be conceal carried even though it’s a bit bigger than a shield and it’s a better handling gun as far as recoil. It’s also going to serve better as a home defense pistol than a shield because of how it handles when being fired
@@360TacticalSolutions thank you!
My cz counter part at the gun store told me cz is dropping the prices because of stock numbers. They're trying to get rid of old inventory. Plus, if your preferred gun store moves that much cz inventory, cz gives them a discounted price.
Yes…trying to get rid of old inventory because they are developing the next version. I think I saw an interview just after I posted this video with the people at CZ where they said in not so many words that they have been developing the updated version.
O man I have to find that video
Slide didn’t lock back a few times
He is riding the slide lock/release...not the fault of the gun
I tend to ride my grip real high with high thumb placement. That puts my thumb right on the slide lock and probably 90% of the time on every striker fired gun I own…the slide doesn’t lock back. I can adjust my grip but I then get less recoil mitigation. Instead I just train around it so that I rack the slide after a mag change. Not an issue
@@360TacticalSolutions I figured it was either that or there was something wrong with the gun/ammo
@@johnnytactical3054 no I get that a lot lol
@@360TacticalSolutions for the $350 price I don’t think you can beat it
Nah. Went back to g19. It's smaller than the p10c
I definitely prefer the grip of the P10C over the Glocks
The Glock is Slightly shorter. I mean slightly. Width? The p10 is slimmer.
“Glock has made the same gun for 20 years.”
Maybe because it works?
If yr looking for a fashion accessory like, say, a purse or a handbag then sure, obviously something new every year.
But for a weapon, not clear to me how “new” or “different” is better.
Clearly you missed the point of the video.
Why wouldn't it be?
Sssoooooo you saw the thumbnail, clicked the video and left a comment without watching it?
3 minutes into shilling his money-making Patreon channel and his sponsors he babbles idiotically about a guns' "relevance."
There’s so much butt hurt in this comment it’s unreal lol
At first I wasn't thrilled on the idea of how low profile the slide lock/ release is the more I ran it the more I appreciated it- with that beginning said I am surprised how many times you road it and kept the slide from locking back. I did find that it doesnt like polymer tipped ammo due to the steep feed ramp
I would say the only guns I dont have that issue with are my 1911/2011’s. My grip is pretty high and tight which helps mitigate recoil with the carpel tunnel issues ive struggled with over the years. The side effect of that is my support hands palm sits in such a position my thumb sits on the slide release on every striker fired gun I own, the more grip I give it the more chance the slide wont lock back. Ive just gotten to a point that when I change mags ive trained myself to rack the slide instead of using the slide release. I get comments all the time about it lol. It doesn’t slow me down at all. Actually right now I have the Apex extended controls on it and it gives me a bit of a thumb ledge on the slide lock which really gives me even more control over the gun but also…no chance the slide will lock because im pressing down on that slide lock lol
@360TacticalSolutions I have heard people like yourself how run that larger extended slide release love running it in competition for that extra thumb rest option giving then a little more speed and control- that being said I may have to try it out! Thanks for the response- it's refreshing when the host of someone's channel actually had a conversation 🤘
@@ttpnw1776 thats actually why I started this channel. The well known channels make crazy money for the content they create…based on their viewers watching it, using their links, buying their merchandise. Then when you leave a comment asking a question or looking for a little clarification you dont get a response or any real feedback. There’s no connection between those channels and their viewers. I wanted to create a channel that works a little different. Thats why I make myself available through email and the comment section and I dont farm out any of this to someone else. I answer nearly every comment with the attention it deserves.
On the topic of the slide release, the Apex version is great and you can get a price break using 360TS at checkout. To me it feels almost like an extended safety on a 2011 meant to be used as a gas pedal or thumb ledge. It’s honestly worth a try. I have a video coming up real soon with all the Apex upgrades on this gun. The weather has been non stop rain so I havent done much recording lol
If any compact striker fired pistol is relevant, why wouldn’t this be?
You seem like you probably own a CZ already. In any event, you completely missed the point. At 7+ years old the P10C is coming up to a point that it’s bound to have a new version released and this version discontinued. S&W is already working on the next iteration of the M&P, Springfield released the Echelon which is a totally modular pistol, and here we have the CZ P10C which just got a fairly heavy price decrease indicating CZ wants to sell off what stock it has to prepare for a possible launch of a new version. The question of its relevance lies in its being behind in the latest technology, manufacturing processes and just overall age. “Is it still relevant” equates to “Should you buy this gun over one of many newer releases that are on the market”
@@360TacticalSolutions never stopped Glock from selling lol..even if they didn’t release a new model a CZ fan would still purchase this b/c it can be modernized and it’s a great gun. And I have a CZ but it’s the P01 Omega from CZ custom cut for an optic. However, I’m not a fan boy of any gun. My position is why limit myself when there are so many great ones. I have Glocks, Walther, Sig, HK, and 1911s too