For Civilian Afterburners your afterburner Capacitor skills (Fuel Conservation) are not applied. If you roll them (Decayed muta is ideal) then these skills are applied. What this means to you is that a Max Red Activation Decayed Civilan Afterburner will have lower activation cost than a Max Green Unstable Enduring Afterburner. This is pretty nice on frigates, as it brings your activation cost down to around 1Gj per cycle - meaning that it is extremely difficult to neut off as you can regen 1Gj from 0, nearly instantaneously.
Good to see you getting after it still Stitch. Even in retirement, seeing the free Nag on the undock reminded me of some good times roaming out of Chaos with Link and the boys! Logi Loki 4 Lyfe!
Yeah it gets overlooked a lot, but on frigate builds outside of FW, it has a lot of merit. Especially on dual prop where you can save a bunch of fitting. In FW its more of a disadvantage just because you will end up being slower than anyone else with a standard AB.
Cool video-- the civilian afterburner thing just blew my mind :D Polarized fits are super fun. One of my favorite ships I ever flew for insurgency work (small gang living in hostile space w/ cloaks) was a polarized blaster Talos: that ship slapped so fucking hard. Incredibly intense fights parking it at the leading edges of bubbles and going to work at point blank range on all kinds of things-- had a few fights where I'd end up in structure, but it was able to just rip straight through people's fancy, active-tank elite PvP fits and fleet bricks alike. Deadspace / ASB active reps doesn't do much good when you only get three rep cycles off because you're being slammed by nearly a HAW dread's worth of DPS. The polarized Talos is funny because obviously high DPS out of a Talos is not a "surprise," but the polarized DPS output is just so high that I think it still catches people off-guard. Things just melt.
Outside of highesc ganks, I think its also one of those situations where people just don't see Talos' often and rarely see them used effectively. I've had a lot of talos' pull up, but a lot of them are just fit terribly, so I think a lot of people have just forgotten how spicy they are when you land at 0 on one, even more so when polarized.
@@stitchk2755 They definitely underestimate them somehow: I had one guy try twice in a row in some kind of fancy active-tank battleship and he died both times. The second fight was close since he knew to prioritize my ship, but we got a clutch jam cycle on him and he couldn't kill me in time. I just love the Talos: I still have a lot of love for it leftover from when it was first introduced and you could fit it like a gigachad Vagabond with nanos, LSEs and null. It was a kiting beast when it debuted if you got your manual piloting right and could keep transversal low. I forget what they changed but I think they nerfed the speed and agility so those fits don't really work anymore sadly. It's still a pleasure to enjoy it in the brawling capacity. Really like this video: it was fun listening to the fitting logic. Sigtank cruisers and frigates are also super fun: I was playing with a lot of 100mn armor cruisers and frigates during our last big war. Don't think I ever got to deploy them at scale cause we were too busy running nasty Tornado gangs, but it's always fun coming up with fits that are underestimated and can do wild things.
@@ganthrithor They hit the talos directly with speed/agility nerfs I believe, but the bigger part was they nerfed TE's, which hurt how far null would project on the kitey fit (which also hit medium AC's pretty hard too)
Nexeq would obviously be much better than SFI and as a bonus, not get weighted down by a plate. So your AB speed would be even better. I think my main concern with the nexeq is how the average response ends up being and if they end up overreacting because they know how potent the nexeq is. Compared to an SFI. Still worth testing out though.
"Anyways, its mine now"
The civilian afterburner is a wild idea. I'm here for it.
Been out of the loop for eve, glad to hear you made it onto CSM mate.
that ending is hilarious, wtf?
For Civilian Afterburners your afterburner Capacitor skills (Fuel Conservation) are not applied.
If you roll them (Decayed muta is ideal) then these skills are applied.
What this means to you is that a Max Red Activation Decayed Civilan Afterburner will have lower activation cost than a Max Green Unstable Enduring Afterburner.
This is pretty nice on frigates, as it brings your activation cost down to around 1Gj per cycle - meaning that it is extremely difficult to neut off as you can regen 1Gj from 0, nearly instantaneously.
Always wondered how anyone could use polarized weapons, thanks for this. Lots of fun to watch.
Good to see you getting after it still Stitch. Even in retirement, seeing the free Nag on the undock reminded me of some good times roaming out of Chaos with Link and the boys!
Logi Loki 4 Lyfe!
I've had a lot of fun flying polarised Ruptures in the past, think I might have to try out that Crow fit! It looks fun! :)
Thanks for the post. Had to watch it a second time to learn even more and I'm sure there will be a third time soon.
Great, now I wonder what the story of that Naglfar is...
My day just got better, thanks for your content, love ur vids man o7
360p early gang :)
edit: Grats on the free dread
I never considered civilian 1mn for actual fits, this is very interesting
Yeah it gets overlooked a lot, but on frigate builds outside of FW, it has a lot of merit. Especially on dual prop where you can save a bunch of fitting.
In FW its more of a disadvantage just because you will end up being slower than anyone else with a standard AB.
Lol'd at the free naglfar
Cool video-- the civilian afterburner thing just blew my mind :D
Polarized fits are super fun. One of my favorite ships I ever flew for insurgency work (small gang living in hostile space w/ cloaks) was a polarized blaster Talos: that ship slapped so fucking hard. Incredibly intense fights parking it at the leading edges of bubbles and going to work at point blank range on all kinds of things-- had a few fights where I'd end up in structure, but it was able to just rip straight through people's fancy, active-tank elite PvP fits and fleet bricks alike. Deadspace / ASB active reps doesn't do much good when you only get three rep cycles off because you're being slammed by nearly a HAW dread's worth of DPS. The polarized Talos is funny because obviously high DPS out of a Talos is not a "surprise," but the polarized DPS output is just so high that I think it still catches people off-guard. Things just melt.
Outside of highesc ganks, I think its also one of those situations where people just don't see Talos' often and rarely see them used effectively. I've had a lot of talos' pull up, but a lot of them are just fit terribly, so I think a lot of people have just forgotten how spicy they are when you land at 0 on one, even more so when polarized.
@@stitchk2755 They definitely underestimate them somehow: I had one guy try twice in a row in some kind of fancy active-tank battleship and he died both times. The second fight was close since he knew to prioritize my ship, but we got a clutch jam cycle on him and he couldn't kill me in time.
I just love the Talos: I still have a lot of love for it leftover from when it was first introduced and you could fit it like a gigachad Vagabond with nanos, LSEs and null. It was a kiting beast when it debuted if you got your manual piloting right and could keep transversal low. I forget what they changed but I think they nerfed the speed and agility so those fits don't really work anymore sadly. It's still a pleasure to enjoy it in the brawling capacity.
Really like this video: it was fun listening to the fitting logic. Sigtank cruisers and frigates are also super fun: I was playing with a lot of 100mn armor cruisers and frigates during our last big war. Don't think I ever got to deploy them at scale cause we were too busy running nasty Tornado gangs, but it's always fun coming up with fits that are underestimated and can do wild things.
@@ganthrithor They hit the talos directly with speed/agility nerfs I believe, but the bigger part was they nerfed TE's, which hurt how far null would project on the kitey fit (which also hit medium AC's pretty hard too)
Nice, I voted for you across multiple accounts. Good to see your still playing. Still subbed. Still enjoying.
yo wtf??? I don't even play this game anymore, but this is a must-watch :O
So if you use polarized fits you get free dreads. Got it. Thanks!
Been TOO LONG but congrats on CSM!!
some interesting fits, that SFI looks interesting for ESS stuff
Also thought of a polarized navy exequror
Nexeq would obviously be much better than SFI and as a bonus, not get weighted down by a plate. So your AB speed would be even better.
I think my main concern with the nexeq is how the average response ends up being and if they end up overreacting because they know how potent the nexeq is. Compared to an SFI. Still worth testing out though.
Nullsec is a hard place to scrape content for the solo player (in a game already hard for solo/single account). Good on ya Stitch.
based ending
King fit Aug navy polarizes so well.
wtf was going on with the nag
u r alive wtf?
no, chat GPT has actually taken over this channel and has repurposed moistcritical's voice to make EVE videos
congrats on CSM
still waiting for new video man :o