You forgot the burning of a vast collection of ancient Buddhist texts in Nalanda in 1200 AD. Some accounts say libraries with thousands of books about Buddhist philosophy and other texts in Sanskrit and Pali were torched and forever lost. The fleeing monks were able to save only a handful of these books.
@@crampusmaximus8849 still no. At the very least it should be preserved as historical data for future generations to study. Not because it is a great book of course. But looking back into cases like the aztec and the inca we could have learned a lot about their culture and the individual or collective thought processes of them if we had more of their cultural artifacts and most of all books available. The same goes for "mein kampf" or pretty much any book or even piece of data. Imagine historians in a thousand years. They would most likely be quite thankfull for having datapoints like these still around..
"Man, I don't think I can love the Kings and Generals channel any more than I do" *hears Age of Empires 2 sound effects used in newest upload* "Guess I'll just eat my own words"
Decent video. But I am disappointed that you didnt even mention Gonzalo Guerrero, one of the commanders of the Maya vs Conquistador conflict, and a real life inspiration behind Dances with Wolves. For all those who dont know, Guerrero is a former Spanish soldier and sailor who got shipwrecked and captured by the Mayans. Although a prisoner, he soon grew to love the Mayans and even raised a family there. When the Spanish arrived, he taught the Mayans ways on how to defeat them, hence why they were successful for so long. Guerrero and his family became the first ever and most known Mestizo in the region.
Guerrero is a badass and the story surrounding him is fascinating but I thought it was outside the scope of this video. The conquest section wasn't supposed to be the focus of this video so I didn't expand too much on it. Hopefully we'll cover the entire story around him in a later video :D
- Cogito - Hey thanks for replying. Still though, it was a great video. And for a Mayan descent like me it was nice that my favorite RUclips history channel made a videos about our history, with or without Guerrero :) Although hipefully you can mention him in the future.
There are certain aspects that I think were overlooked (though I can understand why you didn't mention Guerrero, Aguilar and how the Spaniards acquired through the latter and a slave named Malintzin the much needed interpreters for the Conquista)- mainly, that the arrival of a group of exiled Toltecas from Tula, changed forever the political scene and culture in Yucatán, making the city-states more aggressive and some, as in the case of Mayapán, even attempting to make an empire. Their culture and religion also tipped towards practices more akin with the civilizations from central Mexico; as gods like Kukulkán (the equivalent of Quetzalcóatl) and Chac Mol (a rain deity like Tláloc) became the most revered, contributing to the rise in human sacrifices.
Thank you for clearing up the misconception the Maya people "disappeared" after the collapse of the urban Maya civilization. Talk about erasure of indigenous peoples who are very much still around today (I actually dated a Mayan guy a few years ago).
It would be awesome if HBO started a series like game of thrones except with Mayan mythology, and culture. There is so much to draw from, it'd be an instant hit if they got the right talent behind the project.
the Mayan people, in a way remind me of the Assyrians in the Middle east and Persia. as both are once-great civilizations, but the people still live and know of their heritage to this day.
@@tulparkultigintengrikut8440 Even most "Arabs" in Iraq, Syria and other countries were actually native converts or those who were there before Islam. They adopted Arabic, but the Arabization is a more recent thing that cane with the rise of nationalism against the Ottoman Turks and Western colonialism. Today the word Assyrians is applied to any member of the Assyrian Church. Just like how people were considered Greek if they were members of the Greek Orthodox Church even if they were actually Armenians or how any South Slavic person who is an Orthodox is a Serb, Catholic a Croat and Muslim a Bosniak. Same with being Syrian Iraqi or whatever and you're a Muslim then you're an Arab. At least that's how things used to be and how the majority of people there came to identify as such.
yhea....so stupid that those Africans sold their own people to the Europeans as slaves and so stupid that the maya´s were so busy killing each other, that they gave the Europeans the chance to over rule everything. so many interesting cultures in the world, the one even more beautiful than the other, unfortunately only the best can win :'(
I love these words.. "They have been a part of human history for an incredibly long time. They have risen and fallen and risen and fallen a number of times. They have been invaded by foreign powers and dealt with apocalyptic disease yet they still have never truly been conquered as their culture and spirit has seemingly continued unbroken until this day."
Yeah except that didn't happen. Their culture has been entirely surplanted by Spanish-speaking mixed cultures and what little indigenous culture reamins is not traditioanlly "Mayan." And I say good riddance, any culutre that'll sacrifice ten of thousands of its own in depraved ceremonies is not worthy to stand.
@@clearviewmoai There are millions of Maya people that exist to this day that still practice their culture and speak their own language. Saying their entire culture is gone is just indigenous erasure. Also, "sacrificing tens of thousands of its own" yeah you pulled that number out of your ass. Claiming Maya culture doesn't deserve to exist is just more pro colonization, white supremacist talking points. Christians burned people at the stake for superstition and not following their religion, not to mention waged war and genocide across the entire globe, they truly are not worthy to stand.
@@clearviewmoai classic american response, the culture is still there, they do minor sacrifices mostly like chickens, and their still thriving and numbering at 9 million mayans. You can hate but the mayan spirit will prevail.
Mayan descendant here. I loved the video, specially the last part. I would love if you guys make another one talking more about the kiche and the kakchikel people. Greetings and thanks for all the knowledge!
@@walden6272 Problem is that Mayan names would be hard to pronounce for tourists and foreigners. The feeling of independence from Spanish Yoke is enough.
Walden other Mayan people were also a big influence win the conquest. My Kiche people were at war with the Kakchiquel people when the Spanish came. The kakchiquel couldn’t defeat the Kiche so they allied with the Spanish In order to fight the Kiche.
I cant believe how little we are teached about the civilizations in our own country. When I was at school I was told that they ruined the soil so they collapsed, and basically thats all lol. I didn't know about the 200 years they had of independence after the spaniard invasion and conquest.
I have the honor of living in a tiny Maya village of 400 in the Yucatan. They are still around and trying to preserve their culture and heritage. They still construct their houses from stone, sticks, and palm fronds, and speak their traditional language. Wonderful people.
I lived in a mayan fishing village on Caribbean in Mexico very chill & they dont bother anyone many dont even consider themselves Mexican... They got their own thing going on
As usual, you and Cogito did a fantastic job, this, like all you two's previous videos, are easily the best videos on Precolumbian history on youtube. No errors I can see, other then the implication of the Macuahuitl being used in the wars of the classical period when it was invented in the early postclassic (I also would have liked if you could have shown more Maya cities other then just the super notable ones on the map, without them it makes it seem like there was only a few rather then hundreds of urban centers). That being said, I got a question: Why did the previous series of precolumbian videos that you and Cogito did get unlisted? Is the intent for these new ones to replace them?
This has poked my curiosity. What are the weapons that the Mayans used in the classical period? Because every time i try to look for classical period military, i'm always thrown back to Post classical, or it's lumped in with the Aztecs (Who are clearly much far ahead.)
@Nodosa In the classic period they had spears and atatl's for the most part. Spears usually have a heavy or thick handle where the head is. Sometimes it has razor edges which implies it can be used to slice as well as penetrate. A few scenes show pick axes of some kind maybe of flint and this vase at least shows a strange curved weapon with obsidian edges which may be a variant of the macuahuitl. research.mayavase.com/uploads/mayavase/hires/9063.jpg
+Kings And Generals: In fairness, the Aztecs would not have fallen to Cortes's forces if not for insane luck on his part: Aguilar and Guerrero shipwrecking and intergrating into Maya society years prior, Cortes managing to locate them, The Tlaxcala deciding to spare them and join forces rather then finishing Cortes's men off, Cortes managing to convince Narváez's men to join him rather then arrest him, one of Narváez's men being infected by smallpox, allowing it to break out when they returned to Tenochtitlan, Cortes narrowly escaping death during La Noche Triste, the Tlaxcala and other key-states that alliwed with the Spanish not simply disposing of them after Tenochtitlan fell, etc. It's true that decentralization helped both the Maya in the Yucatan and the states of Western Mesoamerica resist Spanish imperalism by virtue of having no central authority to replace, but the Aztec's fall was a fluke of gigantic proportions.
Yeah the fall of the Aztecs so quickly was based on a lot of factors that were out of all the commanding general's hands. Cortes kind of stumbled into that victory and Montezuma let him. There's a reason that the Aztecs fell in a matter of years but the Chichimeca War took decades and was a nightmare.
Azstecs fought allied tribes to the spaniards too not just spaniards, there were many warring tribes who could draw benefit, the native americans were never truly unified
@UNLEASHING POTENTIAL - PSYCHOLOGY VIDEOS I wonder what English would be like today if millions of dullards had not contributed to its devolution e.g. by infantile grammar like yours.
I don't know anything about the Zapatistas, but their name reminds me of the Zapotec civilization -- an entirely different thing than the Mayan civilization (though, right next door & also extremely ancient).
@@dr.zoidberg8666 The Zapatistas name themselves that way because of a mexican revolutionary caudillo named Emiliano Zapata from the Mexican state of Morelos who rose up with nahuatl indigenous population for the right to work their land. The Zapatistas rose up the beginning of the year 1994 againts the NAFTA treaty, managed to capture half of the state of Chiapas including the capital, before beign push back by the Mexican military. Note to mention that it was also the first revolution to employ the internet as an efficient way to spread their message so much so that they got help from all over the world. As of today their are still some small towns control by the Zapatistas (EZLN).
@@lubrjavo There are V Caracoles not all center in Chiapas however not a significant population when compare to the Whole population of Mexico. And when compare to other countries they may be micro states I suppose. But to which are you referring to ?
History books are usually vague, at least the school ones, i think their purpose is mor that you pass the exam than learn about specific historical events
Having just returned from Yucatan, here are some interesting footnotes to consider: Firstly, it was Francisco de Montejo and his son that is largely considered the conqueror of the Yucatan peninsula- at least according to the locals. Secondly, recent research highly suggest that the drought was self imposed by major deforestation (it’s hard to see it now but Mayan’s cleared great swaths of land which may influenced the climate of that region- similar to what is happening in the Amazon today) and the contamination of their cenotes/aquifer. At least, this is what I learned when I visited.
After the revolution succeed, the Abbasids murdered all of the Umayyads. One of the Umayyads (Abd al-Rahman I) managed to escape and united Muslim Iberia (a province of the Umayyad Caliphate) into an independent Caliphate from the Abbasids.
So seen from a wider perspective, the Mayan regional drought coincided with the European Warming period? What other cultures might have been effected during this time?
I am from Chichimilá, Yucatán. That is a small municipality where Manuel Antonio Ay was born, He was one of the three of Mayan indigenous leaders rebels that organized a rebellion called "Guerra de castas" in 1847. This rebellion took 54 years it ended in 1901, I think this was the last stand of the Mayan. I would like a video about this.
you almost made me cry with your words at the end. I am k'iche' and Kaqchikel Maya from Guatemala and my people are survivors. Because of my ancestor's strength I am able to be here today. Amazing video!!!!
God bless you and your people. Funny how the world works, your people were massacred by and had to defend yourselves from Catholicism while my people were massacred and had to defend themselves because they were Catholic. Glad both groups survived, my people are Irish by the way.
11:21 The Republic of Texas assured the Mayans in their struggle of independence even sending the Texas Navy to link up with the Yucatán Navy and fight the Mexican Navy in the Battle of Campeche in 1843 As a Texan, I'm proud of this forgotten chapter of Texas and Mayan history. Viva La Revoucionarios!
Glad to see the continued resistance by the Itza until the late 1600s, as well as the Caste War and the Zapatistas were mentioned. It's often presented that the Mayans are just another defeated peoples but they have retained a remarkable resistance and level of autonomy. Even today in Mexico and Guatemala their customs and laws remain in some form in many communities. It's hard to go to the church in Chamula, Mexico, for instance, and think this is just another Catholic church, with its sun and moon painted on the ceiling, the lack of pews, and hard liquor instead of wine. Even after baptism many Mayans don't just assimilate but hold something of their past ways of life.
People are uneducated on the fact that millions of Maya, Nawa, and many other natives in Mesoamerica are well alive. The country of Mexico for the most part is still a colonial power and not a native nation. Mexicans on average are more native than anything else.
The bad thing is that in Mexico there is a lot of discrimination towards the native although most have native blood, they use the term "Indian" to insult themselves and think that all dark-skinned people are fools since they relate them to the indigenous, the Spaniards left a lot racism because of their caste among the population.
Sellouts and traitors are always the worst of the worst. And they always get dumped and thrown in the trash by the very same people they helped. Justice
Man I love your series such a prime example of how history should be told. I was nervous when I saw maya in the title. But you kept it on point and you acknowledge our civilization fell but we maya people kept living. Chuj maya and proud!. Ps. It's not pyramid but temples. 🖤👍
This subject is so interesting.We tend to focus in the spanish conquest while mostly ignoring these great empires. Anthropologically looking because of their relative isolation is a great field of research. Who knows maybe this way we can understand better the bronze age collapse or similar chain events of civilizational decline. Αlso Alvarado was a tough guy so i wouldnt want to be on the place of the Maya.
What a great series you guys have done this year, I learned so much about Pre Columbian America. It's a bit sad that now I must part with it but man it's been worth it. Thank you. Really, you made the world more interesting and you made the past live again. So glad you are doing what you are doing.
Dennis Cleary You’d have to change their fundamental cultural attitudes for that to happen. A major reason many tribes like the Tlaxcala sided with Spain was the Aztecs’ incessant demands for tribute and human sacrifice.
Most conquered peoples fell not because of gunpowder, but because their vassals saw more benefit in being ruled by the Spanish than their native overlords. The force that conquered Tenochtitlan whas of around 800 Spanish and more than 40.000 natives. If you think about it, you can see the short-term benefit of not being demanded captives for sacrificial purposes. The ones that truly resisted lasted for centuries before surrendering.
Killer288 It’s funny how every tribe or civilisation you(Europeans) met they were always accused of two things: Sodomy and Cannibalism. And after 100-200 yrs they went extinct. Hmmm makes you wonder if this old argument isn’t actually valid and in reality is compete BULLSHIT!
I have been looking for a long time for a Documentary series on the Mayans....this is REALLY well made thank you so much ...Im really enjoying all the videos and tries..Im learning so much about history...
I find it interesting that so many native peoples were killed simply by exposure to things like the common cold and influenza by Europeans and Spaniards. I'm beginning to wonder if these viruses had origins in Europe, and weren't present anywhere else in the world, until colonization and migration began happening. Which sucks, could you imagine a world where you never catch a cold? Never have to suffer a week or two with bronchitis?
adamnesico pffssshhh , lol sorry if you thought I was being racist. It is just an observation. I will study further into the old world, but tbh it wouldn’t be unusual _if_ that was the truth. Especially since the ‘old world’ refers to the African and European continent specifically. And during European and Spanish colonization of Africa, a similar issue happened with exposure to things like influenza and small pocks (which _might_ mean Africa isn’t the origin source). People from different parts of the world are exposed and/or more susceptible to different shit. Like you rarely see a European or Asian person with sickle cell anemia (a terrible disease with origins in malaria, present mainly in the African and African American population as a genetic defect). And now ‘old diseases’ like measles are coming back to segments of America due to exposure by South American immigrants, something we haven’t had to deal with for decades, but we have immunization and antidotes unlike the past.
There is evidence of a supervolcanic eruption in the Indonesian volcanic arc which caused severe effects on the climate globally. This occurred in approximately 580 AD+ range. The Mayan civilization collapsed shortly thereafter...🤔
You can really see that someone ambitiuous is running this channel. Excellent work like always. I really like this format where you get alot of context surrounding important battles. Your Video on the 6 day war of Israel has shown that you are also at ease with newer conflicts. Are there plans to talk about Bismarck any time soon? Talking about the German unification war would be a nice kickstart into the big conflicts of the 20th century
Why do you never do a series on an African civilization? They did and do exist. Seems you guys choose to neglect this part of the world. Almost seems like you go out of your to avoid. Ta Seti, Zulu, Asante, Kongo, just to name a few. It feels intellectually lazy or negligent not to do so.
The Jaguar and Eagle warriors were kind of like Knightly Orders for the Aztecs and I believe that the Maya had a similar order during the Postclassic Period 1000-1500AD
Mayans fought hard. They were conquered, but their language and their genetics even survive. Other peoples just went with the Spaniards and there is no trace of those people.
We always hear about the disease the Europeans spread, we're there any diseases the natives had already and that they may have spread to the Europeans?
It s because they developed immunity to diseases from all Africa Eurasia. Much bigger than America. So America could develop less immunities as it is much smaller than Africa Eurasia.
Kings and Generals il pretty shure i heard villagers being created from the southern lowlands and several soldiers dying, including one being catapulted from a balance with a close resemblance to a glorious trebuchet.
A kiss to Cogito for making that poor soldier fly through the sky...... (don't look at me like that K&G, you wrote give him love so what better than good old kiss) OK, so on a less lovable side and a more serious one, cool that you guys have talked about the people of my country, but I was wondering if the minoans have a chance in your channel, as there seems to be very few info about them and they might be one of the most important ones in human history.
"Everyone is an immigrant, except native Americans" "There are 7 million Maya living in Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador etc." "Why should we let those brown people from Mexico and Central America into OUR country- MAGA" 🤔🤔🤔 Btw, if you want to know why so many brown skinned latinos identify as white on surveys, maybe check the weird wording and limited options on these surveys. I was doing a college application and it asked me if I was hispanic, I said "yes". Then it asked me what "race" I was. I tried to put native american but it immediately asks me to specify a tribe for verification. I decided I'm not black or asian and since they're obviously looking for cherokee or some shit, the closest thing my brown ass could check was "white". Just one example of how hard it is for mestizo people to embrace that side of their heritage
Kings and Generals then please do Battle of Seden most important battle in war fought in September of 1870 between around 130000 French soldier and 200000 German soldiers in which Prussians were decisively victorias killing around 100000 French while losing just 10000 men and capturing at a time French Emperor/President Napoleon III
The Mayan books and the great libraries of Alexandria and Baghdad are some of the greatest losses in human history
You forgot the burning of a vast collection of ancient Buddhist texts in Nalanda in 1200 AD. Some accounts say libraries with thousands of books about Buddhist philosophy and other texts in Sanskrit and Pali were torched and forever lost. The fleeing monks were able to save only a handful of these books.
I agree greater than any loss in human history :(
💔🙀
@@vman108 Who attacked?
@@lordsombo Ah, ignorance for an answer? How utterly cute.
How to topple an empire:
Find a long-lost civilization and sneeze on the first person you meet. Works every time.
or small pox infected blankets..
its a joke
Chill man
Infectious diseases were recognized for their potential impact on people and armies as early as 600 bc Debunk that
i was legit taught this in high school lol
I hate to be that guy, but the Maya weren't ever an empire. The closest was maybe the League of Mayapan.
Love Cogito's hard work on this channel...great researcher and artist. Love this series on pre-Columbian civilizations!
Thank you :-)
Thanks a lot :D This series has been awesome to work on, especially with such a great team.
The legends assemble.
@@CogitoEdu you are an amazing content creator, you more than deserve those compliments
@@KingsandGenerals you guys are along with invicta are my two favorite history channels on youtube, you guys are just awesome
Everybody who burns books is always wrong and a bane to humanity.
Oof, Today I just learned about what happend to the library in Alexandria
What if we burn Hitler's book?
@@crampusmaximus8849 still no. At the very least it should be preserved as historical data for future generations to study. Not because it is a great book of course. But looking back into cases like the aztec and the inca we could have learned a lot about their culture and the individual or collective thought processes of them if we had more of their cultural artifacts and most of all books available. The same goes for "mein kampf" or pretty much any book or even piece of data. Imagine historians in a thousand years. They would most likely be quite thankfull for having datapoints like these still around..
haha read fahrenheit 451
@@crampusmaximus8849 I heard he hates books and Juice
"Man, I don't think I can love the Kings and Generals channel any more than I do"
*hears Age of Empires 2 sound effects used in newest upload*
"Guess I'll just eat my own words"
Am I hearing some Medieval Total War 2 music slowed down like 500% in the background around 5-6 minute mark? I see through your tricks!
I have been outed :D
@@CogitoEdu 6:05 and that's the spawn noise for villagers from age of empires 2! I love you :3
They also have some music from Civilization 5. Namely... the Spain war theme.
You're the best narrator on youtube for me period! Love your stuff and your work for the KIngs and Generals channel!!
OfficiallyDevin this is first time I have seen your comment in Kings and Generals video
Decent video. But I am disappointed that you didnt even mention Gonzalo Guerrero, one of the commanders of the Maya vs Conquistador conflict, and a real life inspiration behind Dances with Wolves.
For all those who dont know, Guerrero is a former Spanish soldier and sailor who got shipwrecked and captured by the Mayans. Although a prisoner, he soon grew to love the Mayans and even raised a family there. When the Spanish arrived, he taught the Mayans ways on how to defeat them, hence why they were successful for so long. Guerrero and his family became the first ever and most known Mestizo in the region.
Guerrero is a badass and the story surrounding him is fascinating but I thought it was outside the scope of this video. The conquest section wasn't supposed to be the focus of this video so I didn't expand too much on it. Hopefully we'll cover the entire story around him in a later video :D
- Cogito - Hey thanks for replying. Still though, it was a great video. And for a Mayan descent like me it was nice that my favorite RUclips history channel made a videos about our history, with or without Guerrero :) Although hipefully you can mention him in the future.
Happy you enjoyed it :D
There are certain aspects that I think were overlooked (though I can understand why you didn't mention Guerrero, Aguilar and how the Spaniards acquired through the latter and a slave named Malintzin the much needed interpreters for the Conquista)- mainly, that the arrival of a group of exiled Toltecas from Tula, changed forever the political scene and culture in Yucatán, making the city-states more aggressive and some, as in the case of Mayapán, even attempting to make an empire. Their culture and religion also tipped towards practices more akin with the civilizations from central Mexico; as gods like Kukulkán (the equivalent of Quetzalcóatl) and Chac Mol (a rain deity like Tláloc) became the most revered, contributing to the rise in human sacrifices.
Call me stupid but how is he Mestizo ?
Thank you for clearing up the misconception the Maya people "disappeared" after the collapse of the urban Maya civilization. Talk about erasure of indigenous peoples who are very much still around today (I actually dated a Mayan guy a few years ago).
Thank you for watching!
It would be awesome if HBO started a series like game of thrones except with Mayan mythology, and culture. There is so much to draw from, it'd be an instant hit if they got the right talent behind the project.
Lol was thinking the same thing
it would be cool if they filmed it in the original mayan language but they would need to do it in english to get a bigger audience. in my opinion.
Would never get as big because all the white people only like shows with white people mainly in it, especially the main characters
It is interesting but it would be depressing.
@@rgrrgrsxndngr1904 this tbh
the Mayan people, in a way remind me of the Assyrians in the Middle east and Persia. as both are once-great civilizations, but the people still live and know of their heritage to this day.
+melfice999 i mean, the Maya are ethnically more homogenous and closer to their long lost relatives tho, probably.
Assyrians still do exist but their langauge changed to arabic
I know its still spoken but most speak arabic
@@tulparkultigintengrikut8440 Even most "Arabs" in Iraq, Syria and other countries were actually native converts or those who were there before Islam. They adopted Arabic, but the Arabization is a more recent thing that cane with the rise of nationalism against the Ottoman Turks and Western colonialism.
Today the word Assyrians is applied to any member of the Assyrian Church. Just like how people were considered Greek if they were members of the Greek Orthodox Church even if they were actually Armenians or how any South Slavic person who is an Orthodox is a Serb, Catholic a Croat and Muslim a Bosniak. Same with being Syrian Iraqi or whatever and you're a Muslim then you're an Arab. At least that's how things used to be and how the majority of people there came to identify as such.
@@jeffjacob5479 wow chill your titties
It sounds like the Medieval Warm Period, which was wonderful for Europe, was a disaster for Mesoamerica.
@İnsan Sure mate you need to be carefull not to step on a native american corps whenever you leavbe your house in europe.
@İnsan looks like someone has to pay a very close attention to history before spouting out nonsense
yhea....so stupid that those Africans sold their own people to the Europeans as slaves
and so stupid that the maya´s were so busy killing each other, that they gave the Europeans the chance to over rule everything.
so many interesting cultures in the world, the one even more beautiful than the other, unfortunately only the best can win :'(
One man's time of economic growth is another man's apocalyptic end times
İnsan Every great civilization has been built over the corpses of millions of slaves and oppressed people, go cry me a fucking River.
So you are telling me they were not led by the aliens to a new home??
What if we're the aliens and the Maya are the real Earthlings
we were illegal aliens so ye it checks out
I laugh whenever idiots try and downplay the genius of my Mesoamerican ancestors, and give credit instead to some far fetched idea like " Aliens " .
@@CogitoEdu What if the mayas are the friends we made along the way
That's just a tale white people tell themselves to rationalize how advanced the Maya actually were.
I love these words..
"They have been a part of human history for an incredibly long time. They have risen and fallen and risen and fallen a number of times. They have been invaded by foreign powers and dealt with apocalyptic disease yet they still have never truly been conquered as their culture and spirit has seemingly continued unbroken until this day."
As mayan descendant, that line made me drop a tear
Yeah except that didn't happen. Their culture has been entirely surplanted by Spanish-speaking mixed cultures and what little indigenous culture reamins is not traditioanlly "Mayan." And I say good riddance, any culutre that'll sacrifice ten of thousands of its own in depraved ceremonies is not worthy to stand.
Reminds me of China
@@clearviewmoai There are millions of Maya people that exist to this day that still practice their culture and speak their own language. Saying their entire culture is gone is just indigenous erasure. Also, "sacrificing tens of thousands of its own" yeah you pulled that number out of your ass. Claiming Maya culture doesn't deserve to exist is just more pro colonization, white supremacist talking points. Christians burned people at the stake for superstition and not following their religion, not to mention waged war and genocide across the entire globe, they truly are not worthy to stand.
@@clearviewmoai classic american response, the culture is still there, they do minor sacrifices mostly like chickens, and their still thriving and numbering at 9 million mayans. You can hate but the mayan spirit will prevail.
Whenever the Spanish / Greek / Mongolian / Ottoman / ... war theme from Civilization V starts in these videos something pretty bad is about to happen.
Geobacter cedin deden
eu4 >> civ5 (flies away)
@Mr Seboss No way best song is Indonesian and Greek themes
6:06 the AoE villager creation sound !!!
I was just about to comment the same thing
ShhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw
And farming at 6:36!
5:51 male death sound
But how did Mayans suffer environmental collapse when they had 20 % longer lasting resources?
This makes me proud to be Mayan.
Alan Flores todavía existen los mayas?
@@miguelalejandro4357 yeah
A mí me gustó ver estos videos porque aún siendo Hondureño, se nos enseña muy poco acerca de la historia de nuestra región
I'm proud to be Irish/Scandinavian
My ancestors where probs vikings
@emosh73 nope those were the real pussies up in the north
“They attacked are night, laid traps in the jungle, and deployed rapid hit-and-run tactics.”
So... the Mayans are the Vietcong?
Guerilla warfare to fight a superior ground force, a tactic as old as time!
It's one that is used by all jungle peoples - be they Tamils, Kenyans or Malays or Filipinos.
Mayan descendant here. I loved the video, specially the last part. I would love if you guys make another one talking more about the kiche and the kakchikel people. Greetings and thanks for all the knowledge!
Thank you for watching!
Yes same here!. 🖤🤘
Btw its Maya not mayan. Mayan is a misconception. Stay safe brother chuj maya here.
@@walden6272
Problem is that Mayan names would be hard to pronounce for tourists and foreigners. The feeling of independence from Spanish Yoke is enough.
Walden other Mayan people were also a big influence win the conquest. My Kiche people were at war with the Kakchiquel people when the Spanish came. The kakchiquel couldn’t defeat the Kiche so they allied with the Spanish In order to fight the Kiche.
I am Mayan descendent too, and i am Brazilian. I still question myself how is that possible, but is marvelous.
Kindly do a series on the Judeo-Roman wars. All 3 of them. Or the Maccabeean revolt against the Seleucid Greek empire.
@Cesar Adolfo
I'm actually not for the Jews in literally any conflict.
+Cesar Adolfo
Why are you so butthurt about someone wanting to have history covered?
'war' ,,, scale goes straight
'Drought' ,,, scale tips slightly
'Famine' ,,, scale tips a bit more
'Politics' ,,, crash course in flying through cascade disasters
Yep. Cooperation is helpful in overcoming the problems, but if it is not there...
It seems that the Mayan motto is:
"Do not go Gently into that long night,
Rage Rage Rage against the dying of the Light"
It’s actually do not go gently into that *good night
It's admirable how you are experimenting slowly and surely with different formats and they succeed.
Really glad to have your support!
I cant believe how little we are teached about the civilizations in our own country. When I was at school I was told that they ruined the soil so they collapsed, and basically thats all lol. I didn't know about the 200 years they had of independence after the spaniard invasion and conquest.
*taught
Yes BUT their ambitions still destroyed the soil, resulting in their destruction.
The Maya are an amazing people, and it's great to see that their culture and language have survived into the present day.
Thank you for watching :)
In copán Honduras Chorti Maya is spoken
Thanks to Spanish. Sadly the government of Mexico forced many people to abandon the nahuatl and Spanish are blame falsely by it
@@dennislanza2019 good in El Salvador also Belize and Guatemala also in the US as well the Mayans are multiplying
I have the honor of living in a tiny Maya village of 400 in the Yucatan. They are still around and trying to preserve their culture and heritage. They still construct their houses from stone, sticks, and palm fronds, and speak their traditional language. Wonderful people.
Because they didn't use A R T I L L E R Y only
A R T I L L E R Y O N L Y !
What is this artillery only meme?
Peter Peterson look up ISorrowProductions
Make a video on Harappa Mohenjodaro civilizations
I lived in a mayan fishing village on Caribbean in Mexico very chill & they dont bother anyone many dont even consider themselves Mexican... They got their own thing going on
Yeah also the Mayan Highlands don't consider themselves Guatemalans
That’s because Aztecs Mayans and other tribes are preHispanic therefore they were here before Mexico , Guatemala were formed
Just like Cherokees Navajo don’t consider themselve “Americans”
@@andresferrer9890 oh wow I didn’t even know that good for them never lose your pride
As usual, you and Cogito did a fantastic job, this, like all you two's previous videos, are easily the best videos on Precolumbian history on youtube. No errors I can see, other then the implication of the Macuahuitl being used in the wars of the classical period when it was invented in the early postclassic (I also would have liked if you could have shown more Maya cities other then just the super notable ones on the map, without them it makes it seem like there was only a few rather then hundreds of urban centers). That being said, I got a question: Why did the previous series of precolumbian videos that you and Cogito did get unlisted? Is the intent for these new ones to replace them?
Thank you very much! The unlisted videos will be remade.
This has poked my curiosity. What are the weapons that the Mayans used in the classical period? Because every time i try to look for classical period military, i'm always thrown back to Post classical, or it's lumped in with the Aztecs (Who are clearly much far ahead.)
Most is pretty good but there are a few glaring misconceptions.
@Nodosa In the classic period they had spears and atatl's for the most part. Spears usually have a heavy or thick handle where the head is. Sometimes it has razor edges which implies it can be used to slice as well as penetrate. A few scenes show pick axes of some kind maybe of flint and this vase at least shows a strange curved weapon with obsidian edges which may be a variant of the macuahuitl. research.mayavase.com/uploads/mayavase/hires/9063.jpg
@Pakal Chan Thanks man, i'll totally have to keep this as a foot note.
Our own modern civilization will probably end the same way.
Drought? Most probably.
Kings and Generals most probably we will get destroyed by more advanced civilasation
A volcanic eruption buried the lower high lands in a thick layer of ash!
Jacques Francois damn it might be really horrible like a super bacteria or virus or both...
We'll end ourselves with nukes before a drought does it.
I wonder how life in the world would change if the Maya was able to unite.
The Aztecs were united, mostly, but that was a detriment. Whenever your technology is inferior, it is better to have a decentralized society.
+Kings And Generals: In fairness, the Aztecs would not have fallen to Cortes's forces if not for insane luck on his part: Aguilar and Guerrero shipwrecking and intergrating into Maya society years prior, Cortes managing to locate them, The Tlaxcala deciding to spare them and join forces rather then finishing Cortes's men off, Cortes managing to convince Narváez's men to join him rather then arrest him, one of Narváez's men being infected by smallpox, allowing it to break out when they returned to Tenochtitlan, Cortes narrowly escaping death during La Noche Triste, the Tlaxcala and other key-states that alliwed with the Spanish not simply disposing of them after Tenochtitlan fell, etc.
It's true that decentralization helped both the Maya in the Yucatan and the states of Western Mesoamerica resist Spanish imperalism by virtue of having no central authority to replace, but the Aztec's fall was a fluke of gigantic proportions.
Yeah the fall of the Aztecs so quickly was based on a lot of factors that were out of all the commanding general's hands. Cortes kind of stumbled into that victory and Montezuma let him. There's a reason that the Aztecs fell in a matter of years but the Chichimeca War took decades and was a nightmare.
Azstecs fought allied tribes to the spaniards too not just spaniards, there were many warring tribes who could draw benefit, the native americans were never truly unified
@UNLEASHING POTENTIAL - PSYCHOLOGY VIDEOS
I wonder what English would be like today if millions of dullards had not contributed to its devolution e.g. by infantile grammar like yours.
What an amazing work! Pre columbian civs make for awesome videos!! Cheers
Thank you! :-)
So happy to see the Zapatistas mentioned! Great video :)
I don't know anything about the Zapatistas, but their name reminds me of the Zapotec civilization -- an entirely different thing than the Mayan civilization (though, right next door & also extremely ancient).
@@dr.zoidberg8666 The Zapatistas name themselves that way because of a mexican revolutionary caudillo named Emiliano Zapata from the Mexican state of Morelos who rose up with nahuatl indigenous population for the right to work their land. The Zapatistas rose up the beginning of the year 1994 againts the NAFTA treaty, managed to capture half of the state of Chiapas including the capital, before beign push back by the Mexican military. Note to mention that it was also the first revolution to employ the internet as an efficient way to spread their message so much so that they got help from all over the world. As of today their are still some small towns control by the Zapatistas (EZLN).
@@foedustriplex4014 small towns ?? They have a bigger population than 52 countries
@@lubrjavo There are V Caracoles not all center in Chiapas however not a significant population when compare to the Whole population of Mexico. And when compare to other countries they may be micro states I suppose. But to which are you referring to ?
More videos on Mesoamerican, African and Eastern civilizations! I love learning what wasn't in my history books.
More on the way!
History books are usually vague, at least the school ones, i think their purpose is mor that you pass the exam than learn about specific historical events
Amazing resilience by the Mayans. Great video. Thanks!
Bravo, I;m Mexican, son to anthropologists, and your channel is fabulous.
Thank you very much!
Having just returned from Yucatan, here are some interesting footnotes to consider: Firstly, it was Francisco de Montejo and his son that is largely considered the conqueror of the Yucatan peninsula- at least according to the locals. Secondly, recent research highly suggest that the drought was self imposed by major deforestation (it’s hard to see it now but Mayan’s cleared great swaths of land which may influenced the climate of that region- similar to what is happening in the Amazon today) and the contamination of their cenotes/aquifer. At least, this is what I learned when I visited.
Great video, Can you do a vid on the Abbasid revolution against the Ummayads?
After the revolution succeed, the Abbasids murdered all of the Umayyads. One of the Umayyads (Abd al-Rahman I) managed to escape and united Muslim Iberia (a province of the Umayyad Caliphate) into an independent Caliphate from the Abbasids.
So seen from a wider perspective, the Mayan regional drought coincided with the European Warming period? What other cultures might have been effected during this time?
Off the top of my head... I think there was a movement from sub-Saharan Africa to the south and from Central Asia to the north.
yep, you're right. Checked my Wiki a bit too late on this one: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period#Pacific_Ocean
I can't believe I just found you, but 13 minutes you turned into my fav youtube channel! now, lets bing
I am from Chichimilá, Yucatán. That is a small municipality where Manuel Antonio Ay was born, He was one of the three of Mayan indigenous leaders rebels that organized a rebellion called "Guerra de castas" in 1847. This rebellion took 54 years it ended in 1901, I think this was the last stand of the Mayan. I would like a video about this.
Chan Santa Cruz
you almost made me cry with your words at the end. I am k'iche' and Kaqchikel Maya from Guatemala and my people are survivors. Because of my ancestor's strength I am able to be here today. Amazing video!!!!
God bless you and your people. Funny how the world works, your people were massacred by and had to defend yourselves from Catholicism while my people were massacred and had to defend themselves because they were Catholic. Glad both groups survived, my people are Irish by the way.
Pedro de Alvardo is my ancestor which is pretty cool, even if he was a crazy murderer
That is really cool actually :D Thats an interesting family story.
11:21 The Republic of Texas assured the Mayans in their struggle of independence even sending the Texas Navy to link up with the Yucatán Navy and fight the Mexican Navy in the Battle of Campeche in 1843
As a Texan, I'm proud of this forgotten chapter of Texas and Mayan history. Viva La Revoucionarios!
Great video but you never mentioned the British control over Belize AKA British Honduras.
Glad to see the continued resistance by the Itza until the late 1600s, as well as the Caste War and the Zapatistas were mentioned. It's often presented that the Mayans are just another defeated peoples but they have retained a remarkable resistance and level of autonomy. Even today in Mexico and Guatemala their customs and laws remain in some form in many communities. It's hard to go to the church in Chamula, Mexico, for instance, and think this is just another Catholic church, with its sun and moon painted on the ceiling, the lack of pews, and hard liquor instead of wine. Even after baptism many Mayans don't just assimilate but hold something of their past ways of life.
People are uneducated on the fact that millions of Maya, Nawa, and many other natives in Mesoamerica are well alive.
The country of Mexico for the most part is still a colonial power and not a native nation. Mexicans on average are more native than anything else.
The bad thing is that in Mexico there is a lot of discrimination towards the native although most have native blood, they use the term "Indian" to insult themselves and think that all dark-skinned people are fools since they relate them to the indigenous, the Spaniards left a lot racism because of their caste among the population.
@@emmanuelake421 They sure did... nothing but misery.
@İnsan indeed
@@obzidianbladez2873 Mexicans are more white than anything lol you need to learn some history and anthropology
@@curiousshaman2723 Ha, I'm Nawa buddy boy... I know more about Anawauk then you'll ever will. Silly goose! 🤣
When did ancient Israel ever build something comparable to the mayans lol
People were crazy lol
Please do vids on African kingdoms below the Sahara!!!
Didn’t expect to find myself in tears by 12:20. 😭
These people are tough enough to survive the hardships in life...
Wow, I was at minute 10 in the 6 Days War and I get notified about a new video. This is why I love this channel!
There is always more in the works :-)
Sellouts and traitors are always the worst of the worst. And they always get dumped and thrown in the trash by the very same people they helped. Justice
Man I love your series such a prime example of how history should be told. I was nervous when I saw maya in the title. But you kept it on point and you acknowledge our civilization fell but we maya people kept living. Chuj maya and proud!.
Ps. It's not pyramid but temples. 🖤👍
Thanks for watching! Pyramids, in this case, refer to the geometric figure.
Liu Jai hey I know this is probably irrelevant to everyone here but chuj means dick in polish
The last Maya city-state fell in 1697. But somehow people still believe they either died out or "vibrated to a higher plane". Ridiculous.
Mayans my fav AOE2 civ, love the Plumed Archers.
Plumed Archers spam was one of my go to's
@@CogitoEdu yes. They are dirt cheap and stupidly effective.
And historical inaccuracy unit
@@Brookhaven_evil here comes the nitpicker.
I’m so glad that the mayans managed to survive after so many years and so many wars. I wish they can flourish again now and in the future.
Gonna enjoy watching this ! Also I bought your SPQR shirt ;) keep up the good work
Thank you! :-)
This subject is so interesting.We tend to focus in the spanish conquest while mostly ignoring these great empires. Anthropologically looking because of their relative isolation is a great field of research. Who knows maybe this way we can understand better the bronze age collapse or similar chain events of civilizational decline. Αlso Alvarado was a tough guy so i wouldnt want to be on the place of the Maya.
What a great series you guys have done this year, I learned so much about Pre Columbian America.
It's a bit sad that now I must part with it but man it's been worth it.
Thank you. Really, you made the world more interesting and you made the past live again.
So glad you are doing what you are doing.
Thank you very much for watching!
anybody watching for a history class?
8:49 foreshadowing the Vietnam War
If people who study the mayans are called "mayanists", then what are people who study the nazis called?
Nope, I am not going to make that joke. :-)
Nazinists?
This was beautiful. I was moved to tears at the end.
Thank you :-)
Get a grip
Wow loved your video, I am from Merida, it is very special to see the history of my region from an outside perspective.
epic. that's all I can say.
The history of Nojpeten is amazing, I just have done reading the history. I'm from Flores, where the Nojpeten city was located.
Very interesting and historically important video.
Thanks!
This makes me proud to be Spanish!
It’s sad what happened to the natives, just imagine if they all banded together to keep out the European powers 🤔
They're still really outgunned, even when they're united under one leader,
Plus by the time the European started conquering the majority of the native population was dead due to smallpox and other viral agents
Dennis Cleary You’d have to change their fundamental cultural attitudes for that to happen. A major reason many tribes like the Tlaxcala sided with Spain was the Aztecs’ incessant demands for tribute and human sacrifice.
Most conquered peoples fell not because of gunpowder, but because their vassals saw more benefit in being ruled by the Spanish than their native overlords. The force that conquered Tenochtitlan whas of around 800 Spanish and more than 40.000 natives. If you think about it, you can see the short-term benefit of not being demanded captives for sacrificial purposes. The ones that truly resisted lasted for centuries before surrendering.
Killer288 It’s funny how every tribe or civilisation you(Europeans) met they were always accused of two things: Sodomy and Cannibalism. And after 100-200 yrs they went extinct. Hmmm makes you wonder if this old argument isn’t actually valid and in reality is compete BULLSHIT!
I have been looking for a long time for a Documentary series on the Mayans....this is REALLY well made thank you so much ...Im really enjoying all the videos and tries..Im learning so much about history...
Great series very informative and the animations are spot on!
I find it interesting that so many native peoples were killed simply by exposure to things like the common cold and influenza by Europeans and Spaniards. I'm beginning to wonder if these viruses had origins in Europe, and weren't present anywhere else in the world, until colonization and migration began happening. Which sucks, could you imagine a world where you never catch a cold? Never have to suffer a week or two with bronchitis?
adamnesico pffssshhh , lol sorry if you thought I was being racist. It is just an observation. I will study further into the old world, but tbh it wouldn’t be unusual _if_ that was the truth. Especially since the ‘old world’ refers to the African and European continent specifically. And during European and Spanish colonization of Africa, a similar issue happened with exposure to things like influenza and small pocks (which _might_ mean Africa isn’t the origin source).
People from different parts of the world are exposed and/or more susceptible to different shit. Like you rarely see a European or Asian person with sickle cell anemia (a terrible disease with origins in malaria, present mainly in the African and African American population as a genetic defect). And now ‘old diseases’ like measles are coming back to segments of America due to exposure by South American immigrants, something we haven’t had to deal with for decades, but we have immunization and antidotes unlike the past.
Great video, it's sophistication is calming me.
Good :-)
There is evidence of a supervolcanic eruption in the Indonesian volcanic arc which caused severe effects on the climate globally. This occurred in approximately 580 AD+ range. The Mayan civilization collapsed shortly thereafter...🤔
You can really see that someone ambitiuous is running this channel. Excellent work like always. I really like this format where you get alot of context surrounding important battles. Your Video on the 6 day war of Israel has shown that you are also at ease with newer conflicts. Are there plans to talk about Bismarck any time soon? Talking about the German unification war would be a nice kickstart into the big conflicts of the 20th century
Thank you very much! Yes, the unification wars are on our list.
Why do you never do a series on an African civilization? They did and do exist. Seems you guys choose to neglect this part of the world. Almost seems like you go out of your to avoid. Ta Seti, Zulu, Asante, Kongo, just to name a few. It feels intellectually lazy or negligent not to do so.
6:36 The AoE farming sound
Yep!
Are the jaguar warriors and the eagle warriors exclusive only to the Aztecs or does the Mayans also have these warriors in their armies?
The Jaguar and Eagle warriors were kind of like Knightly Orders for the Aztecs and I believe that the Maya had a similar order during the Postclassic Period 1000-1500AD
I love it !!!!!! Thank You so very much!!! =)
Thank you for watching!
They fell because nobody expects ... the Spanish Inquisition
Now I can make conversation with some of my Latino friends. Thanks!
:-)
lmao.. " hey guyss small pox really sucks innit? oof amirite ? hehehe"
Sneaky1ne "what did you just say, puto?!"
Mayans fought hard. They were conquered, but their language and their genetics even survive. Other peoples just went with the Spaniards and there is no trace of those people.
best channel
Thank you!
The Mayans were not as harsh as the Aztecs
Kudos to the Maya! Keep on fighting.
We always hear about the disease the Europeans spread, we're there any diseases the natives had already and that they may have spread to the Europeans?
Sifilis
The only big one I can think of is syphilis. Eurasia had an incredible amount of potent diseases while other places, especially the Americas didn't.
It s because they developed immunity to diseases from all Africa Eurasia. Much bigger than America. So America could develop less immunities as it is much smaller than Africa Eurasia.
I am the only one to ear age of empire II sounds here and there ?
Nope. :-)
Kings and Generals il pretty shure i heard villagers being created from the southern lowlands and several soldiers dying, including one being catapulted from a balance with a close resemblance to a glorious trebuchet.
You are not the only one. :-)
correctus
- Cogito - impero ?
Fun fact these indigenous ppl are now called Mexicans Guatemalans hundurans or El Salvadorans
We are all Mayans today.
Aufenthalt
who is "we are all" ?
A kiss to Cogito for making that poor soldier fly through the sky...... (don't look at me like that K&G, you wrote give him love so what better than good old kiss)
OK, so on a less lovable side and a more serious one, cool that you guys have talked about the people of my country, but I was wondering if the minoans have a chance in your channel, as there seems to be very few info about them and they might be one of the most important ones in human history.
Thanks :-)
Everybody has a chance, we are planning to visit every region in a similar fashion.
Thank for all your videos my day isn’t complete unless I binge this
Thank you for being with us!
Burning book and other civilization knowledge should be considered as worse crime against humanity a true genocide
6:05 i hear what u did there,
Good :-)
"Everyone is an immigrant, except native Americans"
"There are 7 million Maya living in Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador etc."
"Why should we let those brown people from Mexico and Central America into OUR country- MAGA"
🤔🤔🤔
Btw, if you want to know why so many brown skinned latinos identify as white on surveys, maybe check the weird wording and limited options on these surveys. I was doing a college application and it asked me if I was hispanic, I said "yes". Then it asked me what "race" I was. I tried to put native american but it immediately asks me to specify a tribe for verification. I decided I'm not black or asian and since they're obviously looking for cherokee or some shit, the closest thing my brown ass could check was "white". Just one example of how hard it is for mestizo people to embrace that side of their heritage
Well, I think native americans look more like east-asians than europeans.
Great Video!
Well no more crazy human sacrifices from that tribe right? Right? 👀
6:00 clasic age of empire sounds. good job XD
:-)
Richard Jorissen is this music very famous?
I have never heard this music
My parents are from Guatemala and they still speak one of the 30 mayan languages.
charlie chavez that’s interesting
Do you consider doing a Video about the Franco-Prussian war?
Yep, it is on the list.
Kings and Generals then please do Battle of Seden most important battle in war fought in September of 1870 between around 130000 French soldier and 200000 German soldiers in which Prussians were decisively victorias killing around 100000 French while losing just 10000 men and capturing at a time French Emperor/President Napoleon III