I am late to the party. Being from Ottawa where temps do dip down to -40 from time-to-time I so much appreciate your videos. It's hard finding winter reviews of these cars! Looking at the 2024 PHEV, so thank you!
Thank you for a nice and a lot of information. I’m from Winnipeg Manitoba in Canada. In most winter will hit -45 C before the windshield and the summer high as 40 C. I will be considering 2023 or 2024 Niro phev. Happy New Year
Have you made a factory order? I don't think dealerships have inventory. I just curious how long you have to wait for this car? I am from Calgary and thinking to order this.
Wife & I drive a 2019 Niro SX hybrid in Northern Ontario, Canada. Highways are hilly with a lot of corners. I also have steep hill climbs in town. We can get bad winter conditions from October to April. Roads can be icy, and during storms, snow can get deep. Never had a problem because of good winter tires. I have also owned 4x4 and AWD SUV's for towing & camping (still have 1). Main advantage is ground clearance & more power, but stopping distances aren't better. I want this PHEV.
Thank you very much. This was a useful review. I am in the USA and have a Chevrolet Volt. It had a charging issue and I thought I was going to have to replace it. This was one of the vehicles I've been considering. But, luckily, for now, it is working fine. But, I still want to know what is available. And the way you describe the Niro PHEV it sounds like a good replacement. It was impressive how far you went in the winter in EV mode. And the other features, like the PTC heater and how quiet it is were informative. Just wondering. I heard the suspension is a bit harsh. Have you ever encountered any bumps going around corners? If so, how did the car react? Did it jump sideways?
I find the suspension very nice on both generation of Niro's. When I pick customers up they often say how smooth the ride is. I have 16" alloy wheels fyi. Brilliant cars, you won't be disappointed if you get one.
you guys definatly got the nicer speedometer, the US still has one side for tachometer which makes no sense since the engine basically reads 0RPM and is off
I live in Canada and the electrical charging infrastructure here is still not great. So, the PHEV is fantastic! Truly the best of both worlds. My 2021 Niro PHEV still gets twice the mileage of any new ice model. I average 4.4 l/100 kms, and if you can plug it in daily, then you might never use gas.
Hi! It handles snow just fine, much less wheel spin than the e-niro with so much torque. Ground clearance feels better than the e-niro, I can drive across big piles of snow the plow makes when turning into side roads. I've driven it in 20+cm of fresh snow. With the heavy engine up front, it has quite a bit of weight on the drive wheels. I use Hakka 10 studded tyres.
I’ve driven front wheel drive, rear wheel drive and all wheel drive vehicles in Ontario winters since the 80s. FWD with good snow tires is almost as good as AWD in most driving conditions. Braking, which is usually the biggest concern, is the same regardless of drive mode.
If you drive a PHEV with the intent on never ever using the ICE, then you should have just got an EV. Hybrids are all about fuel mitigation, not fuel elimination. There's a Toyota mechanic (car care nut) that did a YT video on many Prius & RAV4 Prime drivers that ceased their engines by never using them for months until they went on a long road trip. That's an extremely expensive mistake. Stale fuel will corrode everything from the fuel pump to the engine itself. Let it run monthly, and always use premium fuel without ethenol.
The Chevrolet Volt will automatically run the engine at least once every few weeks for "engine maintenance", i.e. exactly to prevent what you're talking about. So this problem can be overcome, it just requires a well-designed PHEV drivetrain.
I am late to the party. Being from Ottawa where temps do dip down to -40 from time-to-time I so much appreciate your videos. It's hard finding winter reviews of these cars! Looking at the 2024 PHEV, so thank you!
Thank you for a nice and a lot of information. I’m from Winnipeg Manitoba in Canada. In most winter will hit -45 C before the windshield and the summer high as 40 C. I will be considering 2023 or 2024 Niro phev. Happy New Year
Have you made a factory order? I don't think dealerships have inventory. I just curious how long you have to wait for this car? I am from Calgary and thinking to order this.
So your gas engine did not come on the whole drive?
ey ey ey Tony is back!
So all Niro PHEVs come with the PTC? In the UK the Heat Pump is a £900 option but there is no info on the Kia Website about the PTC.
I’m concerned about the front wheel drive, how does it drive in tricky snowy situations? Did you need to use snow tires or chains?
Wife & I drive a 2019 Niro SX hybrid in Northern Ontario, Canada. Highways are hilly with a lot of corners. I also have steep hill climbs in town. We can get bad winter conditions from October to April. Roads can be icy, and during storms, snow can get deep. Never had a problem because of good winter tires. I have also owned 4x4 and AWD SUV's for towing & camping (still have 1). Main advantage is ground clearance & more power, but stopping distances aren't better. I want this PHEV.
Thank you very much. This was a useful review. I am in the USA and have a Chevrolet Volt. It had a charging issue and I thought I was going to have to replace it. This was one of the vehicles I've been considering. But, luckily, for now, it is working fine. But, I still want to know what is available. And the way you describe the Niro PHEV it sounds like a good replacement. It was impressive how far you went in the winter in EV mode. And the other features, like the PTC heater and how quiet it is were informative.
Just wondering. I heard the suspension is a bit harsh. Have you ever encountered any bumps going around corners? If so, how did the car react? Did it jump sideways?
I find the suspension very nice on both generation of Niro's. When I pick customers up they often say how smooth the ride is. I have 16" alloy wheels fyi. Brilliant cars, you won't be disappointed if you get one.
Very useful. Thank you.
The PTC heater Kia added in your gen. 2 will pay for itself.
Hi I just got the 2023 Niro Phev car and just moved to an area where it snows. Here you are required to carry chains. Do you have chains or recommend?
What is your experience? I think the FWD and winter tires are great.
you guys definatly got the nicer speedometer, the US still has one side for tachometer which makes no sense since the engine basically reads 0RPM and is off
I just bought a PHEV Niro 2023, how do i make it run on only EV guarantee? Its pretty cold here and it wants to run HEV sometimes and not only ev.
Does the Niro phev in Europe have same specs like North American Niro phev? Should have similar range I assume…? Here ev range supposed to be 53 km
Is that a mistake? 99% charge and 63 km of range?
Hi! May I know how long does it take to recharge itself during the hybrid mode?
Do you prefer the ENero or phev and why? Thanks
I live in Canada and the electrical charging infrastructure here is still not great. So, the PHEV is fantastic! Truly the best of both worlds. My 2021 Niro PHEV still gets twice the mileage of any new ice model. I average 4.4 l/100 kms, and if you can plug it in daily, then you might never use gas.
Hi Tony. Seriously looking at this vehicle. How does it handle snow with FWD and good winter tires?
Hi! It handles snow just fine, much less wheel spin than the e-niro with so much torque. Ground clearance feels better than the e-niro, I can drive across big piles of snow the plow makes when turning into side roads. I've driven it in 20+cm of fresh snow. With the heavy engine up front, it has quite a bit of weight on the drive wheels. I use Hakka 10 studded tyres.
@@Anthraxian Thank you very much! I appreciate you answering.
Peter
Oops! Ignore my last about towing.
does it have an hour meter for how much the motor runs only ?
That'd be good to know
I'm a little surprised you didn't go for a car with all wheel drive and rated towing capacity.
I’ve driven front wheel drive, rear wheel drive and all wheel drive vehicles in Ontario winters since the 80s. FWD with good snow tires is almost as good as AWD in most driving conditions. Braking, which is usually the biggest concern, is the same regardless of drive mode.
If you drive a PHEV with the intent on never ever using the ICE, then you should have just got an EV. Hybrids are all about fuel mitigation, not fuel elimination. There's a Toyota mechanic (car care nut) that did a YT video on many Prius & RAV4 Prime drivers that ceased their engines by never using them for months until they went on a long road trip. That's an extremely expensive mistake. Stale fuel will corrode everything from the fuel pump to the engine itself. Let it run monthly, and always use premium fuel without ethenol.
fuel stabilizers go along ways as well to mitigate stale fuel problems I imagine.
True. But fuel stabilizers aren't going to move fluids and keep your seals from drying up.
The Chevrolet Volt will automatically run the engine at least once every few weeks for "engine maintenance", i.e. exactly to prevent what you're talking about. So this problem can be overcome, it just requires a well-designed PHEV drivetrain.
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