Can I just clarify that we are NOT dead we are NOT heroin addicts and we are NOT actors. We were just 2 15 year old homeless rent boys who were manipulated by the programme makers and hung out to dry. WE ARE STILL HERE AND DOING FINE! THANK YOU
I have nothing but respect for you two young men.. I'm so glad you are doing okay ❤ You have to do what you have to do to survive in this life. 70 year old woman here and 20 years sober. I wish you well.
They're both are so beautiful and, for what they were going through, looked relatively healthy. Their potential was immense. It's pains me that nothing or no one intervened with their lives and pulled them out of what they were doing. A shame.
Native Glaswegian here. Glad you two are doing ok, I remember reading an article many years ago about the issues raised by this film. Keep safe and well. Best wishes to you both.
Hardest accent I've ever cringed to understand was a full blooded fully cocked Irishman after having a few myself and chatting with a ciggy outside the pub, and I've chatted with many from all over the world in the military. Love to listen to someone with an accent. As many say, its sad that this happens all over the world and to an extreme. Nice to know they had each other and a community at that time. Seems like they had good heads on there shoulders and kept there wits about them. I've helped a few in the past, as much as I could, to find a path, a stable life and a few laughs and memories along the way. Like to think I did some good in this lifetime. Had my hand bitten a few times as well but hey, gotta take the good and the bad. Not only shared some good life wisdom, was also taught a few new ones myself. Hope someday they'll be a global peace that makes its way to all who need it. God rest and bless the poor souls who found it the hard way.
What remarkably beautiful and kind souls they both have. I really hope and pray that one day they have a better chance and a safe future. I wish them all the best and God Bless.
This video was produced by Devine Productions LTD for Channel 4 on Uk Television. The Documentary was filmed in early Autumn of 1995 and was screened in April 1996 to 1.5 million viewers nationwide (Scotland Ireland Wales and England) - thank you so much for your prayers Ray and empathy and compassion as these are much appreciated here in Glasgow. All the best blessed wishes an prayers from Scotland ♥️✌🏻👋🏻😊 David :D
You two remind me so much of my best friend David and myself when we were 15. We became homeless and ended up hustling for money. We did very well. I am 62 now, and I have been out of that business for many many years. I turned out fine. I did what I had to do to literally eat. Now I am very well off. I own a million dollar home, new Mercedes and tons of $$ in the bank and investment accounts. My only advice is to stay off the drugs. Treat it as a business. Be smart. ❤️❤️
Moving, eye-opening and deeply gripping documentary on the world of rent boys. Was sad to hear what these youths went through and I hope their lives have taken better turns. While LGBT rights have been recognized and are protected now more than ever, it is still despicable most youths worldwide who are either closeted or have come out, have to offer their bodies just to survive and face discrimination after being thrown out. No one should be persecuted and shunned for their sexuality and the numbers of LGBT homeless youths worldwide on the streets has to diminish.
@@LGBTR3naissance i did Ganymede1135 and i thank you for your truth expressed. Many viewers then when the programme aired spoke of love and kind support to us both,such moments we experienced then and continue to do so will always be forever appreciated and completely treasured. David :)
These boys were at so much personal risk to their safety, their health - both mental & physical. In 1995 they were at high risk of contracting HIV and surviving the AIDS pandemic of the 1990's until the arrival of the first antivirals in 1997 was in no way guaranteed. Lot's of us gay folk did not make it, did not survive. If these boys did survive, I hope they've managed against the odds, to get their lives together and found the safety, security, happiness though most of all, the love and care that simply should have been their birth right in the first place.
We survived and contiue to endure very much,life goes on even for those who are lost. Jamie Love,Edward Dickson,Justin Smith,Brian Templeton,Wee Ruby,Donald the Postman,and so many many others who maybe GBNF. X
Yes, we all have accents. I am from NYC and hear everything the world can throw at me. I've been told I have a very thick Brooklyn accent and it is often pointed out as soon as I get off a plane. But, people understand me just fine. Other accents, though, overwhelm, even the best efforts of enunciation or listening skills. There is nothing wrong with sub titles where they may be suitable. This is a tailor made case.
What an emotive and harrowing documentary. Hope the two of them are doing well and have made a better life for themselves. Thanks for uploading, hope to see more Glasgow documentaries!
Colin Ok KAMMY ENDED UP HAVING TO GO TO EDINBURGH BECAUSE HE WAS THREATENED AN ALL THE OTHER RENT BOYS IN GLASGOW I REMEMBER HIM HE USED TO SELL HIMSELF AT CARLTON HILL IN EDIN HE WAS A VERY PRETTY BEAUTIFUL LITTLE BOY AN MADE ALOT MORE IN EDIN THAN HE DID IN GLASGOW BUT BECAUSE THEY DUN THIS DOCUMENTARY ALL THE OTHER RENT BOYS WERE GOING TO KICK TH S##T OUT OFF THEM SO ENDED UP IN EDIN I SEEN DAVID WHO STILL RENTS UP CARLTON HILL TOO THIS DAY!!! I THINK KAMMY IS IN JAIL AT THE MOMENT THEY BOTH ENDED UP ON HEROIN AN TOO THIS DAY THEIR LIFES ARE STILL PRETTY S##T DAVID LOOKS SUCH A MESS I DON'T KNOW IF HES CAUGHT ANYTHING BUT HE LOOKS SO FUKED WHAT A STATE HE NEVER STOPPED RENTING STILL TOO THIS DAY AN KAMMY HAS HIV POSITIVE THOSE LADS HAVE HAD A TERRIBLE LIFES JUST GOT WORSE FOR THEM NO HOPE SUCH A WASTE OFF LIFE SUCH A TRAGIC STORY!!!
Grant Redpath yeah they both have had hard hard lifes I tryed to help David with th drugs but hes gone they dont care about themselfs anymore they will do anything for tragic £50 they are so used of th life now they know nothing else God bless you
I just came across this video through a very good close friend of mine. This is really sad to learn about the boys in the video, I have had a bad life myself for several years different reasons; lost one family member to cancer and I am lucky to be alive today if it wasn’t for my dad who has sadly died from health issues that were not able to get treated as too dangerous and very complex. These film makers treat us all like a heard of cattle in doing so they don’t care about us and our feelings just viewing figure ratings. It would be nice if they could give them all of the moral support they needed. I have been in the past few years with a volatile partner who had controlled me and due to their actions I went missing in Edinburgh for 24 hours once. At the time I was not able to speak out about how I was feeling or going through. I do hope that they are okay after the film makers manipulated these really cool guys and managed to move on from this horrible ordeal
I know that some of this programme was staged ( journalists in the cars pretending to be punters) but I think it's fair enough because real punters would have driven away quickly if they'd seen tv cameras. Also if the boys were paid around £500 each for the time they spent filming. That's preety good money for 1995.
A Spaniard here. I have been in Edinburgh several times and understood perfectly the accent of prople there. But this accent is impossible for me to understand. However. Very sad stories... hope they have got a better life now. Sad... Greetings from Madrid. X
@@artatme . They are only speaking with a strong Glaswegian accent. (Not only used by Criminals) 😂 I’m sure the Educated people of Glasgow can understand what the lads are saying no problem 👍🏻
The two lads were nice and down to earth - good looking too - blond lad Kemmy is cute as fk - i wonder what they are doing now it would be cool to find out - i remember Glasgow scene at this time and before it was raw and gritty and pretty amazing - about the time of just before this video was made i met a guy and we were together for 14 years .ive never been back to the scene but i remember Betty B
I'm glad you are both well .TV companies are only interested in their ratings not the people they interview any story to make them money I was once your age homeless but I was abused but I survived I used to be in the toon at night like you .but now I'm an old dude now .take life day by day and try and enjoy every minute of it al the best to you both xx
1. I’ve never understood why one would want to drug someone to have sex with them. If you’re a person with kink, there’s a good chance there are others with the same kink, so you needn’t drug anyone to get your rocks off. 2. Growing up in the Netherlands with the BBC and now living in Dublin, I’ve never had an issue with most accents across the UK and Ireland.
I'm sorry, but when the blonde kid was saying that his first boyfriend turned him out basically...that breaks my heart. I can barely understand what they are saying, so I cannot tell if that happened at age 13, or if he just had his first sexual experience at 13. Either way... ☹
gail parkin exploited the worse possible way hope they have found Solis an happiness in their life they will be middle aged men now god bless the both off them makes my cry too think little boys like these are used in such a degrading way god help us all!!!
Did I dream it or was there a documentary made years ago that’s now been banned about rent boys moving down to London ? Wonderland? Trocadero centre? Apparently whilst filming in one of the hostels a boy was murdered so the film crew were effectively suspects????
I think the documentary you recall is one that was made in 1975 called 'Johnny Go Home'. It was about young lads who left home to seek a new life in the bright lights of London and who became prey for others. The film crew unwittingly captured some footage which was used forensically in the detection of the hostel murder. I don't think the film crew were suspects but I do think they were "helping police with their inquiries." I'm not sure it was ever banned as I don't recall it ever being repeated but lots of stuff were 'one off specials' back in the day. There may have been another about the 'Johnnies Who Won't Go Home' but that could easily have been a tag line used in the documentary. I remember watching it as a 14 year old and being quite shocked. In my youthful naivety I couldn't understand why young guys not much older than me were not back home after the first night away.
@@vincentmacgillivray8594 Thanks mate. I looked into it and there is a copy at the British Film Institute (BFI) in London but you have to be a scholar to book a viewing. Random if that’s the only copy in existence why it wouldn’t be replicated especially with the evil on the streets today. I remember catching a five minute opening clip on RUclips a few years ago but it’s since been removed
@@TheLuchyboy You can walk right off the street into the viewing suite and watch it. I watched it a couple of weeks ago and any member of the public can.
Say what you like, these lads are brave. Doing what they are doing is dangerous. I wonder what happened to them? It wouldn’t surprise me if they are dead. Sad.
Cameron and David...get a flat together....get some schooling .....go for what you love.....please listen to this wise old lady that you may call "Mom"....you both are angels and oh so special.....terribly proud that you do not abuse drugs....stay strong...stay together....it WILL get better but you have to do your part too...peace in your hearts....love...."Mom"
Agree, Cammy would not be looking for a "mom" to replace his biological mum anyway I doubt. It seems to have impacted him when she passed away when he was only 12. Though as its been pointed out this was recorded way back in the 90s... I'm sure they both got wiser to the world and probably cringe watching back over this. They reason why some aren't understanding them completely is they are speaking a mix of English and Scots respectively. Some of the American viewers are probably not even aware Scots is a sister tongue to English and although similar it differs just like Norwegian and Danish. Here in Northern Ireland we speak this mix too though with a different accent and we need to think carefully not to mix Scots vocab into English when speaking to outsiders as it massively confuses them. Shame the lads had to resort to this but then its a shame married men etc feel the need to slip out for a bit of man on man action while the wife is in the bath or so... Dirty oule gits! :-}
I had no problem understanding, even after being out of the country since 1995 and only regularly popping back. I've only ever been to Glasgow once btw. Sad that the young lads had to work in this way. The nature of the 'job' is slightly different and a lot of young lads nowadays look online for extra cash in this way, and some do 'quite well' out of paid sex with older men with money looking for a good time with a young boy. I have no idea whether this model of male prostitution is still abundant in the western world. Perhaps some one could shed some light.
I wish you both good luck in both your futures stay strong don't let anyone put u down. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ sorry for the crap that u have both been through always be there for each other .
Very tragic indication of how a homophobic society pushes kids like this towards the shadows. In those days, things like section 28 banned schools from helping gay kids, and even then, so many people and teachers were deeply homophobic themselves. The tragedy is that kids like that would have had very few outlets to meet other gay people other than in the shadows like that. I'm sure this image has been replicated so many times with kids, both then and now. As long as homophobia and dysfunctional families exist, there'll always be kids pushed in that direction.
Where have all the punters gone? To the tune of Bonnie Tyler lmao that part made me laugh! I've worked myself,and it's soooo true that u need sense of humour to get through it. I worked in parlours tho, I didn't street walk. I hope these boys are doing well today, they seem like fun, and I admire their friendship and support for each other
I dont speak for Kammy personally, however I can report we are both doing well and fine in our own endeavours- thank you very much for your kind support. 😊
@@iden010 I heard cam had died of a drug overdose and the other boy was heavily into heroin which is a shame I hope I am wrong idea if you know different please do tell me my friend and let me know where they are and how things turned out for them x thank you much love bro xxxj
joanne boyland my mums from Glasgow so find it ok. And a pal from Edinburgh used to rent a room off me, and had a good friend from Belfast. So handled all three pretty good 😀😀
When he spoke about being raped that really hit home with me,it’s happened to so many friends of mine and it’s just sort of accepted and it’s always the young guys it happens to 😢
This was before the fkn gentrification of Glasgow City Centre, when there was a vibe about the place! It's all bistros and bars instead of the clap an hep c 😂😂
@@hgoyam3813 hi mate. I used to work myself, for ten years in Cardiff. I was in parlours tho and didn't street walk as I was always too scared of the risks and what could go wrong. I was raped twice in the decade I worked, and that was in punters flats, so I was too nervous to get into a car. Sorry to sound nosey, but do u known how the boys are doing these days? Do they still work or are they out of this life now?
I’m from Britain and I can only tell what they are saying because my ex was Scottish, but if I didn’t have an ex from Scotland I’d have no clue what the fuck they are saying lmao
I wonder what these two boys are doing now. What was that Betty b all about trying to joke about that wee boys miseries ? He should be ashamed of himself
I'm sure this is fascinating. Unfortunately, I couldn't understand 9/19th of what the lads said. Subtitles would make this more accessible and more productive in terms of knowing what the lads' lives are like.
It's heartbreaking to see these two lovely boys in such a stinking situation. They have the looks and talent. Kammi's father and rotten stepmother have a lot to answer for. They ruined an innocent, sweet, sensitive soul and threw him out to beasts. Wish i had the money to get them away from that.
What parts did they fake? Gosh I have seen several comments on here where they spoke about how they were fine I just wonder what parts were true and what were they paid to fabricate? Wish them all the luck!! ❤
Hope these poor little lads are doing fine now. It’s endearing to see even just at 15 years of age, they both have the Scottish sense of humour that we are known for! Utterly appalling that they were both just kids and were manipulated into into doing this programme and revealing their identity on television for all to see. F*** the producers of this for putting these young lads into such a dangerous situation! 🤬
gail parkin They are both not changrd just city Edinburgh th lads lifes went from bad too worse nothing good no hope one has H.I.V An In jail an Davids life went from down hill fast and was ruined ended up on heroin an all sorts
@@rydokray3094 You talk some amount of shite mate. Me nor David have ever met you before, you know nothing about us. I (Cammy) am alive and well, have never touched heroin and obviously have a more sound mind than you have. I think you need some medical intervention because your attention seeking is just breathtaking!
This rubbish we don't have a choice annoys me. Everyone chooses and they chose this lifestyle. Thousands maybe millions grow up in poverty and choose not to do this...disgusting no self respect
Don’t get too sorry for them, it’s not a real documentary, there was a bit scandal a few months after it was broadcast, it was a complete put up, the two lads where actors but it was presented as real
They both weren't actor they were real and what happened to them was real, the producer actually made scenarios to show what it was like and being young they went along with it to show what happens and what had happened to them they are very real people and if you search it they are actually fighting against channel 4 regarding how they were portrayed.
@@iden010 If you really are David, I'm looking to track someone down who was working St Vincent Street back in around 1994-95. I'm 48 now. Was 21-22 at the time. I wasn't a punter, I'm just someone who lost touch with someone else when we were both very young and I'd just like to know that they were safe and well.
Saint Vincent Street toilets is infamous in Glasgow for rent boys and punters wen I was young we would go to try and rob them but soon learned they weren't the easy touch we thought they'd be as most would and could fight for fun easier targets were sought elsewhere growing up in Glasgow was ruff
@@sana86 listen when I was growing up in the east end there was nobody poorer than us it was dog eat dog you might not understand but when your hungry your driven to do things you ordinarily wouldn't do don't be so quick to judge have you ever been hungry and had to fend for yourself ? Probably not.
That's what was the next thing on his video tape what he'd recorded 🤔 That's what you did with videos cassettes. you'd record one thing then you'd record another program on the same tape. I hope that was a question by the way, not rhetorical 😂
when working with some Glaswegians I used to have an interperer as I had no idea what they where saying, I used to joke its time they learnt to speak English. For them it was English but you could have fooled me.
You can tell this is an old documentary due to phone booth. Back in the mid 80's Ft Lauderdale FL had a cruise park for lads. These days there are phone apps for hook-ups, plus anti drag these days in the news. Coming from single parent home @13 I became a newspaper boy @15 was washing dishes to earn $ @19 U.S. N a v y
im an American & cant understand their accents, so i have no idea what they were saying. So what was their jobs? are they some kind of illegal day workers?
Can I just clarify that we are NOT dead we are NOT heroin addicts and we are NOT actors. We were just 2 15 year old homeless rent boys who were manipulated by the programme makers and hung out to dry. WE ARE STILL HERE AND DOING FINE! THANK YOU
Truth is like a lion.
....it needs no defending.
Couldn'ave said it better masel bro!! x
David Young. 👌🏻 🟥🟧🟨🟩🟦🕉🆔️
Good to hear that you are both ok scott
Hi Scott McMillan and David young I'd very much like to speak to either of you. Nothing dodgy honestly. Just reply on here
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So glad to hear Scott that you are both fine! Scotland is on my bucket list as my grannie was born in Kilmarnock :-)
I have nothing but respect for you two young men.. I'm so glad you are doing okay ❤ You have to do what you have to do to survive in this life. 70 year old woman here and 20 years sober. I wish you well.
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I'd love to adopt the lonely boy like a son.
They're both are so beautiful and, for what they were going through, looked relatively healthy. Their potential was immense. It's pains me that nothing or no one intervened with their lives and pulled them out of what they were doing. A shame.
Native Glaswegian here. Glad you two are doing ok, I remember reading an article many years ago about the issues raised by this film. Keep safe and well. Best wishes to you both.
Aw I hope these two boys are well and living. The both seem so sweet and genuine.
Are you both still in touch with each other,
Hardest accent I've ever cringed to understand was a full blooded fully cocked Irishman after having a few myself and chatting with a ciggy outside the pub, and I've chatted with many from all over the world in the military. Love to listen to someone with an accent. As many say, its sad that this happens all over the world and to an extreme. Nice to know they had each other and a community at that time. Seems like they had good heads on there shoulders and kept there wits about them. I've helped a few in the past, as much as I could, to find a path, a stable life and a few laughs and memories along the way. Like to think I did some good in this lifetime. Had my hand bitten a few times as well but hey, gotta take the good and the bad. Not only shared some good life wisdom, was also taught a few new ones myself. Hope someday they'll be a global peace that makes its way to all who need it. God rest and bless the poor souls who found it the hard way.
You sound like a good person all the best to you
Accent proved a challenge, but what i got waa that david and kammy were thoughtful, resourceful kids with a great sense of humour and insight
Scottish boys don't let negative speech or thoughts affect you ur beautiful inside out don't allow people to bring you down love you both dearlyxxxx
gail parkin totally agree, every Language has local area dialect.
What remarkably beautiful and kind souls they both have. I really hope and pray that one day they have a better chance and a safe future. I wish them all the best and God Bless.
They really were very young at the time I was 92or 3 this was made they had to leave Glasgow fast after this film was made
This video was produced by Devine Productions LTD for Channel 4 on Uk Television.
The Documentary was filmed in early Autumn of 1995 and was screened in April 1996 to 1.5 million viewers nationwide (Scotland Ireland Wales and England) - thank you so much for your prayers Ray and empathy and compassion as these are much appreciated here in Glasgow.
All the best blessed wishes an prayers from Scotland ♥️✌🏻👋🏻😊
David :D
2 beautiful souls in a less than beautiful world. I hope they lived well 🙏🏾
You two remind me so much of my best friend David and myself when we were 15. We became homeless and ended up hustling for money. We did very well. I am 62 now, and I have been out of that business for many many years. I turned out fine. I did what I had to do to literally eat. Now I am very well off. I own a million dollar home, new Mercedes and tons of $$ in the bank and investment accounts. My only advice is to stay off the drugs. Treat it as a business. Be smart. ❤️❤️
Glad you got out Steive. It's so tough for kids on their own.
Very nice how much?
Moving, eye-opening and deeply gripping documentary on the world of rent boys. Was sad to hear what these youths went through and I hope their lives have taken better turns. While LGBT rights have been recognized and are protected now more than ever, it is still despicable most youths worldwide who are either closeted or have come out, have to offer their bodies just to survive and face discrimination after being thrown out. No one should be persecuted and shunned for their sexuality and the numbers of LGBT homeless youths worldwide on the streets has to diminish.
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Did you not understand a word I typed?
@@LGBTR3naissance i did Ganymede1135 and i thank you for your truth expressed.
Many viewers then when the programme aired spoke of love and kind support to us both,such moments we experienced then and continue to do so will always be forever appreciated and completely treasured.
David :)
Hope you have had a good life xxx
You are braver than some any of the rich guys i know who have it all on a plate. I have the greatest of respect for you. X
These boys were at so much personal risk to their safety, their health - both mental & physical. In 1995 they were at high risk of contracting HIV and surviving the AIDS pandemic of the 1990's until the arrival of the first antivirals in 1997 was in no way guaranteed. Lot's of us gay folk did not make it, did not survive. If these boys did survive, I hope they've managed against the odds, to get their lives together and found the safety, security, happiness though most of all, the love and care that simply should have been their birth right in the first place.
We survived and contiue to endure very much,life goes on even for those who are lost.
Jamie Love,Edward Dickson,Justin Smith,Brian Templeton,Wee Ruby,Donald the Postman,and so many many others who maybe GBNF. X
@@iden010 that's wonderful to hear and know.
@@harvey1965 my pleasure thank you for all your kind words and sentimemts my friend.
@@iden010 I went through similar times in the 90's ... it's wonderful we're still here! Stay safe, mate.
I am an American and I had no problem understanding them. Not sure why no one gets this. It is just an accent.
Yes, we all have accents. I am from NYC and hear everything the world can throw at me. I've been told I have a very thick Brooklyn accent and it is often pointed out as soon as I get off a plane. But, people understand me just fine. Other accents, though, overwhelm, even the best efforts of enunciation or listening skills. There is nothing wrong with sub titles where they may be suitable. This is a tailor made case.
What an emotive and harrowing documentary. Hope the two of them are doing well and have made a better life for themselves.
Thanks for uploading, hope to see more Glasgow documentaries!
Colin Ok KAMMY ENDED UP HAVING TO GO TO EDINBURGH BECAUSE HE WAS THREATENED AN ALL THE OTHER RENT BOYS IN GLASGOW I REMEMBER HIM HE USED TO SELL HIMSELF AT CARLTON HILL IN EDIN HE WAS A VERY PRETTY BEAUTIFUL LITTLE BOY AN MADE ALOT MORE IN EDIN THAN HE DID IN GLASGOW BUT BECAUSE THEY DUN THIS DOCUMENTARY ALL THE OTHER RENT BOYS WERE GOING TO KICK TH S##T OUT OFF THEM SO ENDED UP IN EDIN I SEEN DAVID WHO STILL RENTS UP CARLTON HILL TOO THIS DAY!!! I THINK KAMMY IS IN JAIL AT THE MOMENT THEY BOTH ENDED UP ON HEROIN AN TOO THIS DAY THEIR LIFES ARE STILL PRETTY S##T DAVID LOOKS SUCH A MESS I DON'T KNOW IF HES CAUGHT ANYTHING BUT HE LOOKS SO FUKED WHAT A STATE HE NEVER STOPPED RENTING STILL TOO THIS DAY AN KAMMY HAS HIV POSITIVE THOSE LADS HAVE HAD A TERRIBLE LIFES JUST GOT WORSE FOR THEM NO HOPE SUCH A WASTE OFF LIFE SUCH A TRAGIC STORY!!!
H goyam what shame
Grant Redpath yeah they both have had hard hard lifes I tryed to help David with th drugs but hes gone they dont care about themselfs anymore they will do anything for tragic £50 they are so used of th life now they know nothing else God bless you
H goyam poor lad , so many people judging , but walk a mile in their shoes and see what it’s like before being nasty , are they in Facebook
Grant Redpath I don't go on facebook but they mite b on have a look god bless
I just came across this video through a very good close friend of mine.
This is really sad to learn about the boys in the video, I have had a bad life myself for several years different reasons; lost one family member to cancer and I am lucky to be alive today if it wasn’t for my dad who has sadly died from health issues that were not able to get treated as too dangerous and very complex.
These film makers treat us all like a heard of cattle in doing so they don’t care about us and our feelings just viewing figure ratings. It would be nice if they could give them all of the moral support they needed. I have been in the past few years with a volatile partner who had controlled me and due to their actions I went missing in Edinburgh for 24 hours once. At the time I was not able to speak out about how I was feeling or going through.
I do hope that they are okay after the film makers manipulated these really cool guys and managed to move on from this horrible ordeal
Great footage. Thank you for sharing this. 👍🙏
I know that some of this programme was staged ( journalists in the cars pretending to be punters) but I think it's fair enough because real punters would have driven away quickly if they'd seen tv cameras. Also if the boys were paid around £500 each for the time they spent filming. That's preety good money for 1995.
Love that at 22 minutes. Nice voice. Feel the soul. Might know something about heartache.
Omg, both of boys are pretty, i feel so sad about it...
if they have not forgotten their childhood, then you can not nathing
@@artatme yes dude, is very hard, they need teraphy and too much help...
A Spaniard here. I have been in Edinburgh several times and understood perfectly the accent of prople there.
But this accent is impossible for me to understand.
However.
Very sad stories... hope they have got a better life now.
Sad...
Greetings from Madrid. X
In Russia there is a fecal language among criminals that no educated Russian can understand.
@@artatme . They are only speaking with a strong Glaswegian accent. (Not only used by Criminals) 😂 I’m sure the Educated people of Glasgow can understand what the lads are saying no problem 👍🏻
The two lads were nice and down to earth - good looking too - blond lad Kemmy is cute as fk - i wonder what they are doing now it would be cool to find out - i remember Glasgow scene at this time and before it was raw and gritty and pretty amazing - about the time of just before this video was made i met a guy and we were together for 14 years .ive never been back to the scene but i remember Betty B
This is heartbreaking, they both deserved a lot better than this
Those lads went throw hell!!!!!!!
Lol they seemed to love it
they seem to have been living the good life tbh
I'm glad you are both well .TV companies are only interested in their ratings not the people they interview any story to make them money I was once your age homeless but I was abused but I survived I used to be in the toon at night like you .but now I'm an old dude now .take life day by day and try and enjoy every minute of it al the best to you both xx
1. I’ve never understood why one would want to drug someone to have sex with them. If you’re a person with kink, there’s a good chance there are others with the same kink, so you needn’t drug anyone to get your rocks off. 2. Growing up in the Netherlands with the BBC and now living in Dublin, I’ve never had an issue with most accents across the UK and Ireland.
I'm sorry, but when the blonde kid was saying that his first boyfriend turned him out basically...that breaks my heart. I can barely understand what they are saying, so I cannot tell if that happened at age 13, or if he just had his first sexual experience at 13. Either way... ☹
my mam was Scottish love these boys protect our young men xxxxx
gail parkin exploited the worse possible way hope they have found Solis an happiness in their life they will be middle aged men now god bless the both off them makes my cry too think little boys like these are used in such a degrading way god help us all!!!
My mums a Glaswegian & still has a soft accent as she left there in 50's.
Terrible 😡 That young people should be taken advantage of. Why did no one try to help them instead of taking advantage of their situation 😡
If you listen at 14:00 he explains that he is addicted to it.
I feel sad watching this. These lads are human beings. They were exploited in every way.
Cammy was gorgeous, think alot of guys would have loved him as a bf, wonder what ever happen to them, must be in their 40s noo
Did I dream it or was there a documentary made years ago that’s now been banned about rent boys moving down to London ? Wonderland? Trocadero centre?
Apparently whilst filming in one of the hostels a boy was murdered so the film crew were effectively suspects????
I think the documentary you recall is one that was made in 1975 called 'Johnny Go Home'. It was about young lads who left home to seek a new life in the bright lights of London and who became prey for others.
The film crew unwittingly captured some footage which was used forensically in the detection of the hostel murder. I don't think the film crew were suspects but I do think they were "helping police with their inquiries."
I'm not sure it was ever banned as I don't recall it ever being repeated but lots of stuff were 'one off specials' back in the day.
There may have been another about the 'Johnnies Who Won't Go Home' but that could easily have been a tag line used in the documentary. I remember watching it as a 14 year old and being quite shocked. In my youthful naivety I couldn't understand why young guys not much older than me were not back home after the first night away.
@@vincentmacgillivray8594
Thanks mate. I looked into it and there is a copy at the British Film Institute (BFI) in London but you have to be a scholar to book a viewing. Random if that’s the only copy in existence why it wouldn’t be replicated especially with the evil on the streets today.
I remember catching a five minute opening clip on RUclips a few years ago but it’s since been removed
@@TheLuchyboy You can walk right off the street into the viewing suite and watch it. I watched it a couple of weeks ago and any member of the public can.
Say what you like, these lads are brave. Doing what they are doing is dangerous.
I wonder what happened to them? It wouldn’t surprise me if they are dead. Sad.
He wrote to my comment said he's in uni
Wonder what became of these brave guys 23 years later?
Cameron and David...get a flat together....get some schooling .....go for what you love.....please listen to this wise old lady that you may call "Mom"....you both are angels and oh so special.....terribly proud that you do not abuse drugs....stay strong...stay together....it WILL get better but you have to do your part too...peace in your hearts....love...."Mom"
Condoning isn't helpful...
You do realize that this footage is 23 years old, right?
Agree, Cammy would not be looking for a "mom" to replace his biological mum anyway I doubt. It seems to have impacted him when she passed away when he was only 12. Though as its been pointed out this was recorded way back in the 90s... I'm sure they both got wiser to the world and probably cringe watching back over this. They reason why some aren't understanding them completely is they are speaking a mix of English and Scots respectively. Some of the American viewers are probably not even aware Scots is a sister tongue to English and although similar it differs just like Norwegian and Danish. Here in Northern Ireland we speak this mix too though with a different accent and we need to think carefully not to mix Scots vocab into English when speaking to outsiders as it massively confuses them. Shame the lads had to resort to this but then its a shame married men etc feel the need to slip out for a bit of man on man action while the wife is in the bath or so... Dirty oule gits! :-}
Kenny Browne Don't think these boys need to do that to survive. If that's true something is seriously wrong with Scotland.
mrshizweak
You do realized it that this was done ined 1995 and so these kids are at now ined theirs mid to late ofed 30's
i made it almost 7 minutes before i gave up.
i've lived in england but this accent is beyond me.
Really, you english & cant understand this? Never understood it when people struggle with accents, especially from their own country/island.
what a sad thing to see i hope they are safe and well god bless them
I had no problem understanding, even after being out of the country since 1995 and only regularly popping back. I've only ever been to Glasgow once btw. Sad that the young lads had to work in this way. The nature of the 'job' is slightly different and a lot of young lads nowadays look online for extra cash in this way, and some do 'quite well' out of paid sex with older men with money looking for a good time with a young boy.
I have no idea whether this model of male prostitution is still abundant in the western world. Perhaps some one could shed some light.
Good luck to the two of you. Hoping you are both well and continue to be there for eachother. Lots of love to you both
I wish you both good luck in both your futures stay strong don't let anyone put u down. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ sorry for the crap that u have both been through always be there for each other .
WoW ....😳 Could someone do a follow-up on these 2 young men ? Hope their doing BETTER .😁
Another post says one has hiv, and both heroin addicts.
The blonde guy is a sweetheart
cutee💜❤💛💚💚🧡🤍💗💙
Very tragic indication of how a homophobic society pushes kids like this towards the shadows. In those days, things like section 28 banned schools from helping gay kids, and even then, so many people and teachers were deeply homophobic themselves. The tragedy is that kids like that would have had very few outlets to meet other gay people other than in the shadows like that. I'm sure this image has been replicated so many times with kids, both then and now. As long as homophobia and dysfunctional families exist, there'll always be kids pushed in that direction.
It‘s safer and easier now though. But Jesus, they had a ROUGH go
Wonder if the person(s) who produced this short film ever did a follow up a few years later?
One of them is in the comments above and apparently, they are doing fine.
Where have all the punters gone? To the tune of Bonnie Tyler lmao that part made me laugh! I've worked myself,and it's soooo true that u need sense of humour to get through it. I worked in parlours tho, I didn't street walk. I hope these boys are doing well today, they seem like fun, and I admire their friendship and support for each other
So sad 2 handsome young men so lost in life too much to young wish them all the best in life
Another comment said they still rent boys, think one has HIV & both on smack.
Wishing them both the best.
God bless you 🤧 2 boys I hoped you are out of all this by now!!!! Wow 😮. Completely heartbreaking!!!
I dont speak for Kammy personally, however I can report we are both doing well and fine in our own endeavours- thank you very much for your kind support. 😊
@@iden010 I heard cam had died of a drug overdose and the other boy was heavily into heroin which is a shame I hope I am wrong idea if you know different please do tell me my friend and let me know where they are and how things turned out for them x thank you much love bro xxxj
@@iden010 how are you now
Iden can you prove that you are David?
I was a rent boy in Glasgow , george square . But that was in the 80s .
Language is Glasgow (City in Scotland) heavy dialect.
England Scotland Wales and Ireland have many local dialects.
I'm from Belfast your right x
I'm from Belfast your right x
joanne boyland my mums from Glasgow so find it ok. And a pal from Edinburgh used to rent a room off me, and had a good friend from Belfast. So handled all three pretty good 😀😀
Wondering what they're doing now, mid-40s ?
i also wonder that....
Very Dangerous work. I don’t think they live long.
Ashley harvee. He didnt. Cammy is alive and well
@Ashlee Harvey both are very much alive
@Ashlee Harvey No he didn't we are both very much alive thanks.
When he spoke about being raped that really hit home with me,it’s happened to so many friends of mine and it’s just sort of accepted and it’s always the young guys it happens to 😢
David reminds me of Karen dunbar for some reason .. its the hair lol
People say different things. But has anyone got any proof either way about whether these boys are alike or dead now?
This was before the fkn gentrification of Glasgow City Centre, when there was a vibe about the place! It's all bistros and bars instead of the clap an hep c 😂😂
Such lovely boys. I wish they could be young forever. At least I hope they are happy wherever they are.
Absolutely tragic. You can see their withered souls through their dead eyes. A shame.
does anyone know if these lads are still alive?
southafricandominion yes both
@@hgoyam3813 hi mate. I used to work myself, for ten years in Cardiff. I was in parlours tho and didn't street walk as I was always too scared of the risks and what could go wrong. I was raped twice in the decade I worked, and that was in punters flats, so I was too nervous to get into a car. Sorry to sound nosey, but do u known how the boys are doing these days? Do they still work or are they out of this life now?
@@alexcarlson4344 still work they both on heroin the need to feed thier habit bud it's a sin watching th difference between them now!
I’m from Britain and I can only tell what they are saying because my ex was Scottish, but if I didn’t have an ex from Scotland I’d have no clue what the fuck they are saying lmao
Excellent comment u made my chuckle like a kid 🤣🤣🤣🤣🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰👌
Cool story ya whopper
I'm Australians the accent isn't
As strong as I expected.
@@rydokray3094 Thirsty ferret
I wonder what these two boys are doing now. What was that Betty b all about trying to joke about that wee boys miseries ? He should be ashamed of himself
Can you possibly tell me what was said? I couldn't understand a word.
Interesting memories of my four years in Glasgow - the locations I mean...good old Betty B
Long before Ru Paul's Drag Race we had Betty B and who could forget Betty Hutton or "Mother" and the "wean".
I'm sure this is fascinating. Unfortunately, I couldn't understand 9/19th of what the lads said. Subtitles would make this more accessible and more productive in terms of knowing what the lads' lives are like.
If you can tone into the accent they are actually speaking quite clearly , believe it or not! The dark haired guy has more of an Ayrshire accent
Why don’t you go into subtitles if you can’t understand the lovely Scottish accent, or just don’t be looking at young rent boys on the internet, ha ha
Fucking subtitles sound like shit, very bad translation.
It's heartbreaking to see these two lovely boys in such a stinking situation. They have the looks and talent. Kammi's father and rotten stepmother have a lot to answer for. They ruined an innocent, sweet, sensitive soul and threw him out to beasts. Wish i had the money to get them away from that.
I remember this...channel 4 was fined (£150,000) for faking part's of this documentary
What parts did they fake? Gosh I have seen several comments on here where they spoke about how they were fine I just wonder what parts were true and what were they paid to fabricate? Wish them all the luck!! ❤
I'm sorry...I don't know what they did or how they were supposed to have "faked" it...I just remembered they were fined..I read it somewhere
David kinda reminds me of Timothée Chalamet
But I bet he doesn't now.
There prices are better than oors !! Fantastic pure class ;) x
This film was produced in 1995.
Hope these poor little lads are doing fine now. It’s endearing to see even just at 15 years of age, they both have the Scottish sense of humour that we are known for! Utterly appalling that they were both just kids and were manipulated into into doing this programme and revealing their identity on television for all to see. F*** the producers of this for putting these young lads into such a dangerous situation! 🤬
Bellissimo so well-spoken, for today's standards they would be models or something...Also I'd like to know the track IDs Splendid tunes
too young chickens what a lovley pair of lads wish I cud be mum to them just need guidance love em xxxx
gail parkin They are both not changrd just city Edinburgh th lads lifes went from bad too worse nothing good no hope one has H.I.V An In jail an Davids life went from down hill fast and was
ruined ended up on heroin an all sorts
They really need to have subtitles here. It is impossible to understand anything.
there are subtitles. you just have hit the options and turn them on!
I di...and it still does not make any sense...am I missing something here?
You sound like a highly erudite and educated person (LOL!)
Mr Zoltanonwinter no, the subtiles are absolute nonsense
Subtitles are shit too.
For those who are having difficulty with the accents.... there are subtitles.
Click the "CC" icon at the bottom of the video.
I don't think the person typing the subtitles understood a lot of what was said either. Some of the text makes no sense either.
Not there
I honestly wonder where these kids are because it breaks my heart that they went through this
@@rydokray3094 Thats absolutely sad to here but if one of them is still alive and doing well thats good as well
@@rydokray3094 well I do hope you find Davies and try and get him some help
@@rydokray3094 You talk some amount of shite mate. Me nor David have ever met you before, you know nothing about us. I (Cammy) am alive and well, have never touched heroin and obviously have a more sound mind than you have. I think you need some medical intervention because your attention seeking is just breathtaking!
@@scottmcmillan1724 good to hear that you are well
@@rydokray3094 No we didn't mate. Stop lying and attention seeking. We are alive and well 🖕
I could understand maybe 10% to 15% of what they say.
I wish they put subtitles
They did.
Piss off!!!!!!!!
@@MadBiker-vj5qj I don't see any subtitles.
almost 5 minutes into this before I could understand a single word.
Same here - it's almost unwatchable. Bummer, because it looks interesting.
This rubbish we don't have a choice annoys me. Everyone chooses and they chose this lifestyle. Thousands maybe millions grow up in poverty and choose not to do this...disgusting no self respect
Don’t get too sorry for them, it’s not a real documentary, there was a bit scandal a few months after it was broadcast, it was a complete put up, the two lads where actors but it was presented as real
They both weren't actor they were real and what happened to them was real, the producer actually made scenarios to show what it was like and being young they went along with it to show what happens and what had happened to them they are very real people and if you search it they are actually fighting against channel 4 regarding how they were portrayed.
David was gorgeous.
Thanks Chris,that's "Smashin" 😊
@@iden010 you're welcome 🙂
@@iden010 If you really are David, I'm looking to track someone down who was working St Vincent Street back in around 1994-95. I'm 48 now. Was 21-22 at the time. I wasn't a punter, I'm just someone who lost touch with someone else when we were both very young and I'd just like to know that they were safe and well.
I’d hate to hear them talk when drunk
So what are there's two doing today are they alive
"Gibble gabble, blubbity blub blug, yugga hugga!" Fascinating.
Would it sound better if it was all, lah dee da, lah dee dee, lah te ta old chum 🤔
Love Scottish accent.....
Wonder about an update on these boys
How old is this st Vincent toilets closedown long time ago
20 quid for a cute lad, yesssss. Then I realised it was filmed in 1995. Hope they doing well now
The Captain Lol.
They are pretty ugly to me and such big girlies, not a shred of a man in them.
That's £40 today. A bit pricey for a wank.
I'd give them £100 each so they could have a days rest from doing this. Even though they ARE extremely cute I would not expect any services from them.
@@MadBiker-vj5qj pervert
Saint Vincent Street toilets is infamous in Glasgow for rent boys and punters wen I was young we would go to try and rob them but soon learned they weren't the easy touch we thought they'd be as most would and could fight for fun easier targets were sought elsewhere growing up in Glasgow was ruff
Wow. Stealing from the poor. Shame
@@sana86 listen when I was growing up in the east end there was nobody poorer than us it was dog eat dog you might not understand but when your hungry your driven to do things you ordinarily wouldn't do don't be so quick to judge have you ever been hungry and had to fend for yourself ? Probably not.
The St Vincent Street toilets were a scary place in the 90s if you were genuinely just bursting for a pish.
Glasgow the shithole
Of Europe.
God bless you both,jesus christ loves you both.been there.
These queens loved it
Any particular reason why it cuts to Jools Holland at the end?
That's what was the next thing on his video tape what he'd recorded 🤔
That's what you did with videos cassettes. you'd record one thing then you'd record another program on the same tape.
I hope that was a question by the way, not rhetorical 😂
I'd love to know how both guys are doing?? I was the trawling one haha around 99 2000. Wonder when this was made 🤔 looks the same time frame
Too bad I could only understand about an eighth of this (you have to be Scottish, I guess), What I did understand was really interesting and very sad!
Chickens is a nonce codeword
Oh! is that why they named the documentary that? Thanks, Captain Everybodyknewthat.
Why are the captions turned off? I speak English and can't understand a word they're saying.
when working with some Glaswegians I used to have an interperer as I had no idea what they where saying, I used to joke its time they learnt to speak English. For them it was English but you could have fooled me.
They are all very old now...
No judgement. All the best.
You can tell this is an old documentary due to phone booth. Back in the mid 80's Ft Lauderdale FL had a cruise park for lads. These days there are phone apps for hook-ups, plus anti drag these days in the news.
Coming from single parent home @13 I became a newspaper boy @15 was washing dishes to earn $ @19 U.S. N a v y
im an American & cant understand their accents, so i have no idea what they were saying. So what was their jobs? are they some kind of illegal day workers?
Heck! i had no idea, my Grandpa Joe is gonna be more suprised that me! Thanks James.
I don't unmderstand a word either I can only surmise what they are saying.. i give the hell up.
Meaning me as a German don't have to be ashamed not to understand them, if even native English speakers don't. Thanks guys .... :-)))
Ro
Roter Fuchs you could say that
heard liam neeson used to do rent boys in england couple of yrs after his wife died
From where
@@adonaiyah2196 um read on google somewhere gossip from gay guy so.......if a gay guy says it......i believe it
Wonder where they are at nowadays....