What I did I’m short and play a 44” but instead of cutting the butt off to make the handle section stiffer. I went and cut an inch off the tip too give me a close feel too the Tensei White… but now I stopped using the tensei shafts and went with the Ventus Black. I love that shaft. It feels like a more beefed up version of the tensei shafts. Able to swing as hard as I can and still keep face in control. It’s well worth a try even the blue is very good but the black suited me so much better it doesn’t have high rpm spin. My swing speed is 170mph
All depends how you load the shaft. The White is a high kick point shaft, Blue mid-kick so will feel smoother to many. I picked up the Blue (previous version) off eBay for 10 quid! I haven't tipped it yet, but I'm interested to see how it performs for me.. Great that you're doing shafts Alan! Through the years its become obvious to me that different people are affected by the shaft design more than others.. Then the people who are least affected propagate the idea that "shaft doesn't matter" nonsense (Crossfield) whereas for some of us its huge..
+Woden of the Angles that's right. Shaft is something. More feel than anything, but if you load the shaft longer, a shaft will effect numbers more than someone who unloads shaft earlier
Great to see some shaft testing and explainations of feel and as you mentioned thats very important. I`ve just gone through a similar thing and founf that the Kiyosho Purple suited my swing feeling the best and it delivered a great flight. I can`t believe some people`s reactions over the price of shaft`s..The shaft is the most important thing. So buy the best you can afford as like everything else in life you get what you pay for.....most of the time anyway hehe
Blue series Mitsubishi shafts feel so smooth yet they are stable and maintain dispersion. Unless you swing 110 consistently then White is the one but id not then it may feel too stiff aka boardy.
white tip is stiffer real similar too the kurokage shafts. blue too me feels like the bend is more in the middle. for me the blue would always make my face open at impact. the white I felt like was more stiffer in the tip which suited me better.
Looking well mate :) love the info as always. I was thinking of getting the blue board and modding it for the cobra but I'll have to give this a look after 7.months of not playing haha
Get into it keithy. They are a top shaft. Basically the same as the diamana blue and white. You could be playing in the snow. Soft.... Just kidding, you know we can't stand anything under 20*
AUSSIE GOLF REVIEWER I'm completely soft I can't even lie about it hahaha. Yea I have the blue board in that titlist 2 hybrid.. the strikes and confidence it gives is amazing and I would put that down to the amazing feeling of the shaft cause it's solid not super stiff and it's not like you have a fishing rod in your hands so if this is the next step I can't wait :)
The Boron Tip is a giveaway that its an aftermarket (Pro). Also the Pro has more exposed carbon fiber from the white band up towards the handle/grip and I think the K from CK will be white instead of the same color. Theres usually a sticker under the grip too but thats not convenient, lol.
Are these different to the stock shafts they use when selling clubs. My mate just went and bought a tensi blue and spent £300 on it and the guy told him the ones in stock clubs are built with same stuff but watered down versions of the real macoy. So potentially a stock shaft £70 and a custom tensi £300. Is this true. Thanks Ian Im hoing to go try a tensi xstiff white stock shaft in a m3. Swing speed 105-108 there abouts. Is this something that will suit me or what would you recommend.
X flex may work for your swing and not just your swing speed. 105-108 is on the high end of Stiff on paper but try to hit both if possible to see which flex yields better results. The aftermarket (Pro) has tighter tolerances, QC and combines 11 different prepreg materials etc etc.
At 111 mph club head speed with those temps you should be north of 280+. All arms no body and no legs. You could be north of 285-300 if you get those legs and gluts engaged. I swing at 105mph and north of 275 all day and 54 yrs with very easy flow.
@@AUSSIEGOLFREVIEWER Hey Cheers! Thanks for the reply! I just now realized Ive been over-stressing my X flex and wondered if a shaft upgrade was called for. I think I'll dial down a bit and go for accuracy instead of "caveman hit lunch"
@@AUSSIEGOLFREVIEWER TX is only used on the aftermarket version (Pro). There aren't two X flex's. If the shaft says X its not the Pro model....www.mca-golf.com/products/ck-white www.mca-golf.com/products/ck-pro-white
What I did I’m short and play a 44” but instead of cutting the butt off to make the handle section stiffer. I went and cut an inch off the tip too give me a close feel too the Tensei White… but now I stopped using the tensei shafts and went with the Ventus Black. I love that shaft. It feels like a more beefed up version of the tensei shafts. Able to swing as hard as I can and still keep face in control. It’s well worth a try even the blue is very good but the black suited me so much better it doesn’t have high rpm spin. My swing speed is 170mph
Ventus range is mint
All depends how you load the shaft. The White is a high kick point shaft, Blue mid-kick so will feel smoother to many. I picked up the Blue (previous version) off eBay for 10 quid! I haven't tipped it yet, but I'm interested to see how it performs for me..
Great that you're doing shafts Alan! Through the years its become obvious to me that different people are affected by the shaft design more than others.. Then the people who are least affected propagate the idea that "shaft doesn't matter" nonsense (Crossfield) whereas for some of us its huge..
+Woden of the Angles that's right. Shaft is something. More feel than anything, but if you load the shaft longer, a shaft will effect numbers more than someone who unloads shaft earlier
Look at Sergio Garcia. He LOADS the hell out of the shaft AKA "creates lag"
Great information for me as I’m looking at the blue as my new shaft after my lesson with you
Good review Al, I don't recall seeing any other reviews on shafts, so this was very interesting.
+Alan Heseltine might do more with shafts. But it's hard and shaft is so subjective
I love these reviews Al. All too often shafts are overlooked.
+Aussie Mike strike is king and certain shaft profiles for certain people can make a difference
Mitsubishi make some nice shafts and a lot of them come as standard options with Titleist.
+Bob Pfaff Mitsubishi have always made great gear. In golf and cars
The $300 aftermarket CK Pro's are being tested in this video but even the "made for" stock versions are better than most.
How do these compare with tensei AV raw white /blue
The Av raw are a little softer and simpler profile. The new 1K versions are more like these ones tested
Great to see some shaft testing and explainations of feel and as you mentioned thats very important.
I`ve just gone through a similar thing and founf that the Kiyosho Purple suited my swing feeling the best and it delivered a great flight.
I can`t believe some people`s reactions over the price of shaft`s..The shaft is the most important thing.
So buy the best you can afford as like everything else in life you get what you pay for.....most of the time anyway hehe
+gary smith6 correct mate. Like everything else in life, you get what you pay for
I like the idea, not sure how much I could feel any difference though, so I'd probably just go on the numbers and trust the choice, and advice.
Blue series Mitsubishi shafts feel so smooth yet they are stable and maintain dispersion. Unless you swing 110 consistently then White is the one but id not then it may feel too stiff aka boardy.
white tip is stiffer real similar too the kurokage shafts. blue too me feels like the bend is more in the middle. for me the blue would always make my face open at impact. the white I felt like was more stiffer in the tip which suited me better.
Looking well mate :) love the info as always. I was thinking of getting the blue board and modding it for the cobra but I'll have to give this a look after 7.months of not playing haha
Get into it keithy. They are a top shaft. Basically the same as the diamana blue and white.
You could be playing in the snow. Soft.... Just kidding, you know we can't stand anything under 20*
AUSSIE GOLF REVIEWER I'm completely soft I can't even lie about it hahaha. Yea I have the blue board in that titlist 2 hybrid.. the strikes and confidence it gives is amazing and I would put that down to the amazing feeling of the shaft cause it's solid not super stiff and it's not like you have a fishing rod in your hands so if this is the next step I can't wait :)
Congrats on hitting 4k subscribers.
+Stephen Frame thanks so much Stephen
I bought the mizuno st180 and it had the tensi ck white 70 x shaft. How do I know if it's the pro ck white?
Towards the tip you will see BORON written if it's the pro
@@AUSSIEGOLFREVIEWER mine doesnt say it... and my shaft looks identical
You'll have the "Boron Tip" logo inscription close to the tip of the shaft
The Boron Tip is a giveaway that its an aftermarket (Pro). Also the Pro has more exposed carbon fiber from the white band up towards the handle/grip and I think the K from CK will be white instead of the same color. Theres usually a sticker under the grip too but thats not convenient, lol.
Are these different to the stock shafts they use when selling clubs.
My mate just went and bought a tensi blue and spent £300 on it and the guy told him the ones in stock clubs are built with same stuff but watered down versions of the real macoy. So potentially a stock shaft £70 and a custom tensi £300. Is this true.
Thanks
Ian
Im hoing to go try a tensi xstiff white stock shaft in a m3. Swing speed 105-108 there abouts. Is this something that will suit me or what would you recommend.
X flex may work for your swing and not just your swing speed. 105-108 is on the high end of Stiff on paper but try to hit both if possible to see which flex yields better results. The aftermarket (Pro) has tighter tolerances, QC and combines 11 different prepreg materials etc etc.
Im about to purchased one of the other -- I know my fitter his ordering the Pro white-- I will definetely try the Blue as well
thanks for the review!!
Thanks mate, the blue is great and feels a tad better (Softer) but the white is stable
Thank you so much for the info, I will try both and see how it feels for me
At 111 mph club head speed with those temps you should be north of 280+. All arms no body and no legs. You could be north of 285-300 if you get those legs and gluts engaged. I swing at 105mph and north of 275 all day and 54 yrs with very easy flow.
start using your body more you could be carrying the ball 290-300
"Im probably just using it more than he is at the moment"....
Probably using it a whole lot better too....
Alan vs Tiger...
No shots....
+Lanky Schnitzel a.k.a Big Shrimpin' poor tiger. Love the bloke. Hard to watch what is going on with him.
What's the difference between Tour Extra Stiff and Extra Stiff? ( If anyone says "the word Tour", you'll get a head butt.)
Tour X is the same or similar profile, just stiffer than X
@@AUSSIEGOLFREVIEWER Hey Cheers! Thanks for the reply! I just now realized Ive been over-stressing my X flex and wondered if a shaft upgrade was called for. I think I'll dial down a bit and go for accuracy instead of "caveman hit lunch"
Hitting it as hard as you naturally do is ok, slowing down too much can lead to just as bad or worse shots than flogging it
@@AUSSIEGOLFREVIEWER TX is only used on the aftermarket version (Pro). There aren't two X flex's. If the shaft says X its not the Pro model....www.mca-golf.com/products/ck-white www.mca-golf.com/products/ck-pro-white