VERY RARE - DLR goes wrong way into Bank
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The trains backing up reminded me of Cities: Skylines.
Nathaniel Pillar yes
Yeah, in cities in motion 2 they just stared at each other.
Same
Its chocka in my city
why though? ju&uej*n hb7fhfufjcudrwurwdzd
Seltrac as used on the DLR is a 'moving block' system. The blocks not just small, they are effectively infinitely small. The wire in the track changes side every 25m which provides the first level of localisation and then an axle counter is used to position with in that 25m.
The system keeps the trains 'safe braking distance' apart. As the trains slow or speed up, this distance changes as appropriate.
The main problem I've noticed riding this and other automatic systems is that the auto-drivers don't anticipate which can lead to trains that alternately power and brake instead of just slowing down a bit. The auto driver sees suitable distance ahead clear and speeds up, then closes the gap and brakes, the gap widens, so it powers again, etc.
Matthew Geier you’re a professional right?
So feedbacking. Speeds up too much, then has to slow back down again.
The controllers generally know what they are doing and this is probably well thought through. I've been a train driver for ten years and these solutions often seem odd but can be very effective for the greater whole. Getting one train off the main line may vacate it for another train at Tower Gateway, thus unlocking the platform for another one and so on...
uxmannen on the DLR they don’t have drivers
Manjot_vlogsYT Arora that doesn't matter in this case. He just wants to say that these weird solutions often make sense in the end
I am fully aware they don't have drivers and I never claimed to be a train driver on the DLR.
@@theplayer57saywhat.65 They do but they are on the train incase a emergency happens the driver can take manual control it runs by itself otherwise.
The stop just before the station is probably a consequence that the platform itself is a single block to avoid that a train stays partially stopped inside. So, as the previous train departs the station, the other train will pull to the edge of the platform as it would do outside a station but it will only pull to the platform once the whole platform plus safety distance after the platform is clear
Also that PSA did a good job. He made sure the train was in safe hands. Unlike the other PSA's that are moody.
I was on a DLR train once and I got shouted at for looking at his controls from a distance! WTF!?
BreakingLimits//SickJamButter I Agree
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BreakingLimits//SickJamButter is HM
The train assistants always hold there hands over the emergency stop button when pulling into stations, especially during busy times. Just in case a passenger ends up on the track.
No they do not.
Their
Nobody is going to somehow fall out of the train or come off a platform in the tunnel.
People think I'm weird when I start filming trains lol
i can relate lmao
well that is pretty weird lets be honest
@@yeahnoway111 lol true
@@yeahnoway111 it's not very good to judge peoples interests
Daniel Lake same just take loads of videos
I would have thought that sending a train down the outbound tunnel would have caused more disruption than running as normal (there could be no train waiting in the Bank outbound platform and tunnel when your train went in).
The current DLR trains can serve all stations (in the old signaling system there were trains which could not serve Bank as they were not allowed in tunnels)
+Mark H "I would have thought " me too. Where did all the other trains go that went down the correct way? Isn't there a loop down there, or something?
+TheClunkingFist Not a loop but a tunnel the trains reverse in.
Best explained by a diagram homepage.ntlworld.com/clive.billson/tubemaps/ltbank.gif (the tunnel is labled as the overrrun tunnel).
+Mark H Cheers!
well 3 trains queued up so you can guess a major delay, the bank tunnel including the station and the siding was probably empty of trains.
Mark H I
This is really unusual, but its a very great video.
+BreakingLimits//SickJamButter what caused the congestion?
+BreakingLimits//SickJamButter It's usual in Toronto, the trains go on the right side, but not like London, where the trains go on the left side
Thanks for this, very interesting and the subtitled comments were very helpful. You have Inspired plenty of discussion too.
A similar thing happened with me once before - we'd just departed Shadwell and began our descent into Bank, but just before we got to the tunnel, we came to an emergency stop, because the train in front of us had stalled, so we were sent back up the hill, diverted onto the Eastbound track and pulled back into Shadwell.
Why didn''t you record it?
Dezza Manezza hey I was on a dlr and I was going to Canning Town and a train had broken down outside city airport and MY TRAIN TERMINATED THERE then we was delayed for 2 hours
wow you were unlucky
I know right
Once I was on a train into Woolwich Arsenal and in the tunnel we came to a stop. They said someone turned off the power or something weird like that.
I love the Docklands Light Railway. I’ve been on them so many times even when I was a kid and apparently I was born just after when the DLR first opened. Which is a bonus. 😆
Greetings from Singapore!
Cool Light Rail Train There...and the scene in the tunnel made me sit on the edge of my chair
what caused the long queue? Did one train have a power problem? (and cause the rest to back up behind)
This happens fairly often when there is disruption. I've been on trains that have departed from the arrival platform at bank as well.
Because the trains where stacking up they pick one to terminate at an earlier station, then it goes back on that line to fill the gap caused by the delayed return trains. It happens more often than you think.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the DLR doesn't use very short signal blocks, but rather uses moving block signalling hence the immediate movement of the other train. I think blocks are used at junctions but each block is very long, and allows more than one train in a block at a time given enough space for the moving blocks which surround each train.
The northern line was running on the wrong side a couple of weekends ago through Bank to Morgate and possibly further. I don't know why they did it, although it was being upgraded on part of the line then.
London Bridge to Moorgate is "wrong side" for normal running. An artefact of the extenstion of the CSLR. So nothing to see here, move along....
The motor sound on the B07 stock changed?
Nice one
What was the delay on the DLR
This is why they don't want you filming on the DLR!
2000guineas IDIOT IT IS NOT HIS FAULT EITHER ITS YOUR FAULT BECAUSE OF THE COMMENT
Calm down and also HOW can a video cause a train to go the wrong way?
Dude it's not because he's filming it's because the systems went wrong calm down mate
How can a video cause a train to go In the wrong direction
Test Test lol he's saying they don't want you to film the DLR cos they don't want anyone to know the dirty secrets of the faulty systems lool
2000guineas it’s not his fault how can filming cause this to happen CALM DOWN
Nice Video Very Intering :) - Kyle
Excellent if a train is full wait 30 second for the next one
Nice video
I remember when the unit I was on lost traction current and seltrack data just before exiting Bank - Shadwell tunnel.
Why were there loud beeping noises at the beginning?
Trains go the "wrong way" into Bank if they are running late, and there are no trains coming "up the hill". It can make up about 2 and a half minutes of delay by not having to travel via the arrival platform and turnback siding.
I have only seen my train system going the wrong way to the end of line to switch directions to be on the right track, but on some stations 2 platforms at a terminating station where they have to switch to the right track once they depart in the other direction
In Rotterdam this is quite normal when the other way/rail is blocked by an broken train or something
This is hilarious!
Ye
I have done this a few times when the first train is running late and it does this to catch up some time. It can do this if there is no trainat Bank.
all tracks on dlr are bi directional and this tunnel was the first when bak station was opened
Were there signalling problems which meant only one of the Bank Lines could be used, hence the Q of trains
bruh why was the train going the wrong way please give me an answer
Did you know what the cause of the jam was?
Is there a loop of track beyond the DLR platforms or a reverse siding?
Reversing siding
markylon Ehm, No. Headshunts are for locos. Multiple units use reverse sidings, you can see on travelling east from willisden junction(high level).
markylon
From my (train) knowledge:
A headshunt is an another track beside the tracks at the platform, connected to the platform track to let the locomotive reverse back into the back of the train.
A reverse siding is a reversing track mostly in the middle of the parellel terminal tracks or as a single track after the stations for long push-pull and MUs to change direction. Crossovers are also viable to change direction
#EnglishMotherFkers
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But i already know the tracks and units are bi-directional
Benobve can you please make a its lift tour time at Meadowhall shopping centre it has some amazing circular Schindler lift
Imagine if you're going to Tower Gateway but your train suddenly goes to Bank (that would be an hassle tho to change to the District/Circle Line)
I used to get the dlr a lot it happens more than you think I remember first time the psa was in the rear carriage when it happened was totally not expected, but after that time I saw it about 3 or 4 times a week but that was only when I was on it who knows how much more
This happens literally all the time, the system is designed to work this way. Stops having to move again and go round the turnaround loop plus it can stack two trains offloading passengers and also reorder trains if there's a train that comes in later but needs to leave first in scheduling. That's the thing about automation, it knows where all the other trains are at all times, knows future train movements and can predict gaps ahead of time to improve efficiency and is no risk whatsoever. Also the PSA is most definitely *not* there to press the emergency stop - even if he needed to which he absolutely doesn't there's no situation where trains can come to blows unless some moron who isn't nearly as smart as he thinks he is screws with it - only time there's ever been an accident on the DLR is when one of these guys wanted to play train driver, they're definitely not.
Accidents have happened with driverless train systems before, and they are due to signalling equipment malfunctions.
The need for hovering over the emergency stop button is in case a passenger falls on the track, not because two trains could collide
Seen this a few times - obvious rationale is to gain back a few minutes and restore the regular service interval. Breaks the gordian knot by bypassing the backlog.
Where is it go to
Must be really creepy to sit on a train going the wrong way. You just know that someone in signalling screwed up and any minute now you'll crash head on with another train.
+Tulle Rönnmyr Lol in Toronto, it's the opposite. Going forward on the right side is normal. In London, going on the left side is normal.
Darn Brits, always driving on the wrong side, eh?
Great British Communist Railways
That's not true. In most of the world the trains do not drive on the right.
The countries with LHT have a total population about 3 times that of the RHT countries. (I make it 5 billion vs just over 1.5 billiion. The remaining half-billion are in countires without railways or with single track only. )
North America generally keeps right.
Much of Europe keeps right. However the UK and Ireland, France and Belgium, Switzerland, Italy and Slovenia, Portugal and Sweden, keep left.
South America and Africa generally keep left.
Most of Asia keeps left (including China and Taiwan, Japan, Korea, most of South East Asia, all of South Asia). Indonesia, the Philippines, ex-Soviet Central Asia and much of West Asia keep right.
Australia and NZ keep left.
Tulle Rönnmyr The signalling would detect it, causing the train about to crash to stop
In Germany, they ALWAYS do that in order to restore the time schedule. It's completely normal over here, nobody cares about going on the wrong track. This usually applies to every train and for several kilometers
Was this filmed with a DSLR?
WOW
I wonder if is because they decided to pick passengers up more quickly
This is very normal in Toronto. The trains go on the right side. In London, it's different.
Congratulation
Am I the only one that knows so well their local transport system that when the (e. g.) train, for example, goes the wrong way, I immediately notice it and think that we are going to crash and appear on the evening news?
Why couldn’t some of the trains be diverted to Tower Gateway
+Beno why did the DLR go the wrong way?
ArchieLaurenCiranJackProductionsPolice On ROBLOX. Didn't You See The Video???The DLR Was Getting Qued So They Had To Go The Wrong Way
The DLR is DOCKLANDS LIGHT RAILWAY (DLR)
I never knew that!
Oh my gosh, right-hand traffic in Great Britain x)
Atleast if u miss one u got another 2 seconds later
4:18 when I first saw this I thought it was David Williams on the right hand side in the blue jacket
2:16 maybe it's a technical fault with the points
Ah yes DLR in a underground I mean that normal it still fits through tunnels
"Very short Signal blocks" they say... the train was the whole way out of the station before the next one even started moving. The old fixed block signalling system on the city stations in sydney could let multiple trains into the station at once...
Not any longer sadly. The system was designed back in the 1930s and was only ever properly tested in the 50s (as it wasn't needed during normal operation). During the test they ran 36 trains through the city in one hour. When the last car of the first train would be leaving the platform, the first car of the next train would be arriving into the other end of the platform. The system was actually designed to handle 42 trains an hour but could only do so if everything went well.
Sydney still has multiple trains in each platform for coupling and such, but the 1930s signalling system was replaced in 1990 with a new system which can still apparently handle 36 trains an hour it just doesn't let multiple trains into the same platform anymore.
Where is this ?
London
Comments on this video and the people are commenting - please do not do this if you have no idea what you're talking about 😂
Talking about crash and "signalman" not knowing what they doing... well you lot just made me laugh 😂😂😂👍
Ah, the DLR envies the Victoria line so much
It’s rare but has happened to me a few times in all the years I used it.
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Cant they just terminate at Shadwell, reverse using the crossover point slightly west of the station and head back to Woolwich/LLewisham
It doesn't make sense for a DLR train to terminate at Shadwell if it is going to Bank because terminating trains change directions when they depart.
It will be a disruption alright if a train comes the other way.
if I had been on that train I would feel at home I live in Canada so we always use the left side
whoops I mean the right
I have been in this situation before but on the district line
This train terminates here ah we tricked ya we tricked ya
*PING!!!!!*
Dont have so many trains then....
is it just me or was there music at 3: 20
Just you
This reminds me of MTA for some reason
I thought they are going to Tower Gateway but i didn't get how next station they're going but they went to Bank! that is not right. How they do from Poplar they just go to Bank!
I’d modernize the signaling so the trains can have 1 cm between the couplers
and I thought the DLR was automatic I didnt know there were controls at the front for operators
+Kai Attree it is. they have hidden controls for the PSAs.
+Kai Attree Semi-automatic.
+Kai Attree If needed to, operators can control the train.
No they aren't as you can see PSA's using the buttons by the doors and at the front of the train.
I'm guessing they're sending trains down both and having them come out the same way?
1 goes down the arrival tunnel as normal, 2nd down the departure tunnel, third and forth down the arrival tunnel. By the time train 3 arrives at Bank arrivals, train 1 is already in the switchback. Once train 2 departs bank train 1 moves into the departure platform allowing 3 into the switchback, clearing the arrival for 4 just behind it
I remember when I was sent to a wrong way on Saviolovskoye railway for about 10-12km which was insane. We need to say that some passengers were sent to another platform. Fortunately, there were no Moscow-bound trains that time but I was scared.
Going right hand from Shadwell to Bank shouldn't be that rare.
WTF HOW MANY TRAINS HERE
Giedre Simkiene OVER 9000!
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Doses the DLR have toilets on it
No
@@milkandduckrailway323 i wish
@Stockport county FC i wish
This is getting out of hand now there a 4 of them
WHY IS THE DLR 6 CARS
Cuz of evening peak time hours
One time I was on a DLR train to Canning Town and a other train was 3 minutes behind us and it could of bumped into my train because the DLR might not support signals
lol ther was 4 southbound srvisis back to back to back to back so funny
Rush hour
⚠️ THIS IS NOT RARE IT HAPPENS EVERY MORNING FOR ME!!!! I HAVE TO TAKE IT EVERYDAY. I GET OFF AT SHADWELL ASWell
Anna .loafstone that is true it happens to me aswell..
I thought the DLR had a moving block system
Moving block has to be one of the most overused buzzwords of the moment. There are no systems with moving block in the UK, and hardly any in the world. Such a system is completely reliant on software and can not have physical fail safes. It practise moving block is just a gimmick just to make news headlines of dumbed down news papers. Most systems that claim moving block just have very small signal sections. The victoria line has 4 sections for the length of one platform.
Beno but... It does... In essence it has a moving block system, it axle counts
It is moving block but the block around the train changes at different parts of the track. in the bank tunnel the gap the trains keep apart is bigger. so they like to wait out side the tunnel ,this where the gap gets bigger.
It stops in the same place as this must be assigned a safe place to wait, like just outside the tunnel and near the emergency doors in the bank tunnel
markylon there's no points (just where the new concrete is) outside the tunnel on the ramp but the trains would have to wait when leaving the tunnel if a train from tower gateway just passed. That's happened when I was on it once . I was talking about the train going in to the tunnel.
markylon
just after the train starts to go down the ramp. It tends to stop there usually if it's the third one after a tower gateway as the trains before it have bigger "blocks" around them while in the tunnel.
Lewisham bank Stratford Tower Gateway
I don't see any Wrong Thing in the video (jk)
It look like a tram
Aw fuck meter : low. Normal. Medium. Low. Dangerously high. overload OVERLOAD.
the level of ignorance in the comment section is outstanding
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-_and_right-hand_traffic#Worldwide_distribution_by_country
WHAT!?!?!?!😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡 0:03
this happens all the time on the Tyne and Wear metro in the northeast of England metros going in the wrong direction into stations its because all the money is invested in london the metro trains are old and so is the signals etc but yet everything goes sort of smooth technically london could be its own country
stz monte mario fs fl3
Oi
Dock lands light failway!
is going in the underground subway
"very busy".....
oh nvm I thought so