@@adamweber1790more of a cupping of the hand although having it lay more on the forehand isn’t incorrect there’s a good amount of bowlers who do that but your hand will still be cupping
It is hard to say. I am not around him a lot due to him being at college. He dose throw urethane a lot. He loves his purple hammer for a lot of his tournaments at school.
Same here. Lefty palm bowler. I just started getting into bowling cuz my friend bowls in college. Started me off with the tropical surge and I moved up a victory road. I just have trouble throwing consistent. Like my swing for sure
hes holding the ball with his forearm as well as his palm, kinda of squeezing the ball between those two areas. an alternative way to achieve the same control he has without needing that much flexibility in your wrist is you put a thumb hole in your ball. i know how it sounds, hear me out. if you use fingertip and thumbtip, you can cup the ball from below just like normal, and have that extra bit of control from your thumbtip, without having to change hand position or anything. if the ball starts falling forward my thumb has some grip to prevent that, or at least delay it until my hand is fully under the ball again. i have a couple shorts on my channel of me using this style. i have my balls drilled to that "thumbless" release, but to my conventional hand span. so when i get a 10 pin or tricky spare, i can just stick my thumb all the way in and throw conventional. ive been working on utilizing both styles in league and its been going pretty well. my 2nd game last week had a 10 bagger and i used that thumbtip style the whole way. if you have any questions feel free to ask, if i dont know the answer i have a couple pros and silver coaches who i can bug at work to answer questions.
This my problem bro it’s mental I promise you won’t drop the ball! I’m not he best apparently, but I can bowl a consistent 195! And i tend to notice when I don’t think about dropping the ball, and focus more on my release and where I’m dropping the ball im more consistent! And I also use the same 2 finger , release so these videos help me so much! And now I see that I’m doing it right with holding the ball. Cuffing it with my forearm and hand and my backswing adjusted. Which forced the mental thought of dropping the ball out ! Sorry I talked so much lol I just love bowling now man😂
no he goes to the left. you should always adjust your feet TOWARDs the direction that the ball is going too far in. so when its short/dry, the ball will go too far left, so you should go left more. reason being that it will cross the center for longer picking up more oil/time in the oil, and the angle coming out of the oil takes more revs/time to switch towards the pins.
no - he is primarily using the palm of his hand and his arm strength. the lack of the thumb and a strong ball will add enough revs that you dont need to think about manually applying spin.
Start with a lighter ball is what helped me, I don't recommend crouching per say... I noticed the higher I hold my ball, the bigger back swing I have and tend to have more control of it on the release.
Well, w/o video can't really say. So this is more general advice. Often people start with a wild arm swing and kind of whip the ball, with hand on outside of ball. Which will cause more of a throwing action. Key thing is to cradle ball on forearm, and slowly pull the ball up in back swing. Mike Miller may be a better example of this. But even with TD - he has a rather pronounced push away, but he's not really generating speed with it. It's his way of putting ball into position to cradle on forearm. For newbie's, it's generally better to start with a lighter ball and work way up. But if, as a practice drill you find a 16 (or even 15) pound ball, and go really slow. The weight will force you to slow down and roll it more. I usually throw 14 now. But a few practice games a month with the 16 has really helped me to slow down and not be to fast in my approach. But for some other skills it can help to practice with a lighter ball. Especially if having trouble holding ball, or arm strength isn't used to it yet. I actually started with a 10 lb ball.
I swing by trail leg as far to the left rear of me as possible at the same time as I throw my off hand (left) out of my center of gravity (area where your belly is; a.k.a. your core). This'll help tuck your elbow in more and lower your stance without thinking about it too much. Still working on this part.. will update on my channel to see how it goes for me.
Bowling was made to use three fingers.......these two handers and no thumbers are just wanna be bowlers. It's time to bring back wood lanes and rubber bowling balls.
@@perfect1150 you literally make no sense. Lol, the object of the game is to take the ball and knock over pins… anyway I do it is fine. Look at some backwards bowlers bowling 300… I have a friend that has bowled 300 left handed, right handed. I am the truth.
@@amishmuscle2536 Ya backwards bowlers shooting 300...even more proof of what a joke bowling has become. Today's bowlers would quit after a week in the old school bowling. Today's bowlers are a bunch of candy asses who want the lanes walled up so they can score. There is no honor in an honor score anymore...hence the reason the USBC stopped GIVING rings for them. If bowling on today's garbage makes you happy....good for you. I for one want to EARN my score and want them to be tough.
@@perfect1150 so your saying it’s easier?… how come only 9 people have ever bowled a 900 before? Ever in the world. I happen to went to school with one of them and bowl with them, his name is Robbie Portalatin , wow such anger u have. 😂 you need to chill out. It’s all practice and one of my friends own a center and the type of oil patterns Vs the kind of balls, is difficult as any time. Chill out
*That is not bowling, that is a trap that is not in the rules of the game, because he uses one finger, while the opponents use THREE, and that is taking an advantage over the opponent.* *_(AND MORE IF THE OPPONENT DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO USE THAT TECHNIQUE!)_* *He is using 8-pound balls, while given his weight and height he should be using at least 18 or 20-pound balls, so that he would be even with the opponent.* *If bowling had been **_"DESIGNED"_** with a single hole for a single finger (THE THUMB), this is how it should be played, **_THAT IS NOT PLAYING BOWLING, NO MATTER WHAT ALL THE PEOPLE SAY AND IT BURNS TO WHOM IT BURNS !_* *_THAT'S NOT THE ORGINAL BOWLING GAME!!_*
He threw a standard 15lb certified ball like most professionals. He uses a two-finger setup and stretched the index and thumb for better balance. The best bowler in the world has been 2 handed for a long time now (no thumb) - it's time for you bowling purists and traditionalists to get a grip. - It's about knocking down the pins using a ball. The fact you also blasted that in 50% caps and bold lettering shows you're mad and you're probably under a 200 average while a bunch of no-thumbers are better than you. You'll get over it though. Quit coping to ease your ego. 16lbs and above is currently against PBA ruleset. My job is done here folks.
Same release, always root for the guy because of that, started releasing with not thumb and boy did I catch some sneers, he is my go to reference guy
He releases the ball so smooth
Don’t forget Mike miller. He’s the first pro to bowl like this.
He really makes it look so easy when hooking the ball.
it's the way I bowl, the way you hold the ball with 2 fingers, you'll hook it no matter what
i started to do this, so im wondering is the ball cradled on the forearm?
@@adamweber1790more of a cupping of the hand although having it lay more on the forehand isn’t incorrect there’s a good amount of bowlers who do that but your hand will still be cupping
He releases it so good too hehe
He comes up the back of the ball, never realized how much preload he does. I found it easier on my fingers to just rotate the wrist.
Thanks for posting this!
He is a great bowler. My son bowls with the same release but left handed.
I’m a lefty myself and bowl the same way. What’s your son’s benchmark ball? I’ve found the iq tour great for me. Thank you.
It is hard to say. I am not around him a lot due to him being at college. He dose throw urethane a lot. He loves his purple hammer for a lot of his tournaments at school.
Same here. Lefty palm bowler. I just started getting into bowling cuz my friend bowls in college. Started me off with the tropical surge and I moved up a victory road. I just have trouble throwing consistent. Like my swing for sure
same release same favorite ball
Lefty also same style. Iq emerald and iq tour
我的大前輩
Glad I saw this video. I've been made fun of for bowling like this. I've been doing this for almost 20 years now and I'm to old to change
I bowl with this same release
I’m a one hand thumb out bowler, only guy I know to watch for pointers
Mike miller also
Anybody know what speed he was throwing?
Wish my backswing was as good as his. I bowl one hand thumbless as well but my back swing is bad because im afraid ill drop the ball
He's got some good muscle memory there, my thing is brining that release all the way down and not just letting it go.
hes holding the ball with his forearm as well as his palm, kinda of squeezing the ball between those two areas. an alternative way to achieve the same control he has without needing that much flexibility in your wrist is you put a thumb hole in your ball. i know how it sounds, hear me out. if you use fingertip and thumbtip, you can cup the ball from below just like normal, and have that extra bit of control from your thumbtip, without having to change hand position or anything. if the ball starts falling forward my thumb has some grip to prevent that, or at least delay it until my hand is fully under the ball again. i have a couple shorts on my channel of me using this style. i have my balls drilled to that "thumbless" release, but to my conventional hand span. so when i get a 10 pin or tricky spare, i can just stick my thumb all the way in and throw conventional. ive been working on utilizing both styles in league and its been going pretty well. my 2nd game last week had a 10 bagger and i used that thumbtip style the whole way. if you have any questions feel free to ask, if i dont know the answer i have a couple pros and silver coaches who i can bug at work to answer questions.
This my problem bro it’s mental I promise you won’t drop the ball! I’m not he best apparently, but I can bowl a consistent 195! And i tend to notice when I don’t think about dropping the ball, and focus more on my release and where I’m dropping the ball im more consistent! And I also use the same 2 finger , release so these videos help me so much! And now I see that I’m doing it right with holding the ball. Cuffing it with my forearm and hand and my backswing adjusted. Which forced the mental thought of dropping the ball out ! Sorry I talked so much lol I just love bowling now man😂
@@ThaDonDeuce ty so much for your input. I dont mind the lobg read at all!
Relax stance
Keep head / chest up
Use legs
Stay under the ball
It’s amazing how he cashes on tour.
Does he go more to the right when the oil pattern is short?
no he goes to the left. you should always adjust your feet TOWARDs the direction that the ball is going too far in. so when its short/dry, the ball will go too far left, so you should go left more. reason being that it will cross the center for longer picking up more oil/time in the oil, and the angle coming out of the oil takes more revs/time to switch towards the pins.
Does he use his thumb.??
So he's using more he's fingers, I been just using my wrest
no - he is primarily using the palm of his hand and his arm strength. the lack of the thumb and a strong ball will add enough revs that you dont need to think about manually applying spin.
Is he tucking his pinky?
looks right
Yep. I do the same thing. No thumb and all...
I bowl the same but gotta learn to roll it instead of throwing it. Any tips on how to get lower on my release?
Whenever you stand on the approach and line yourself up crouch down a little and try to keep lower and your arm will be lower as a result
Start with a lighter ball is what helped me, I don't recommend crouching per say... I noticed the higher I hold my ball, the bigger back swing I have and tend to have more control of it on the release.
Well, w/o video can't really say. So this is more general advice.
Often people start with a wild arm swing and kind of whip the ball, with hand on outside of ball. Which will cause more of a throwing action.
Key thing is to cradle ball on forearm, and slowly pull the ball up in back swing. Mike Miller may be a better example of this. But even with TD - he has a rather pronounced push away, but he's not really generating speed with it. It's his way of putting ball into position to cradle on forearm.
For newbie's, it's generally better to start with a lighter ball and work way up. But if, as a practice drill you find a 16 (or even 15) pound ball, and go really slow. The weight will force you to slow down and roll it more.
I usually throw 14 now. But a few practice games a month with the 16 has really helped me to slow down and not be to fast in my approach.
But for some other skills it can help to practice with a lighter ball. Especially if having trouble holding ball, or arm strength isn't used to it yet. I actually started with a 10 lb ball.
I swing by trail leg as far to the left rear of me as possible at the same time as I throw my off hand (left) out of my center of gravity (area where your belly is; a.k.a. your core). This'll help tuck your elbow in more and lower your stance without thinking about it too much. Still working on this part.. will update on my channel to see how it goes for me.
Bend those legs, and/or release it faster.
Bowling was made to use three fingers.......these two handers and no thumbers are just wanna be bowlers. It's time to bring back wood lanes and rubber bowling balls.
Uhmmm, stop being a troll
@@amishmuscle2536 Says the person with the name Amish Muscle......truth hurts doesn't it.....
@@perfect1150 you literally make no sense. Lol, the object of the game is to take the ball and knock over pins… anyway I do it is fine. Look at some backwards bowlers bowling 300… I have a friend that has bowled 300 left handed, right handed. I am the truth.
@@amishmuscle2536 Ya backwards bowlers shooting 300...even more proof of what a joke bowling has become. Today's bowlers would quit after a week in the old school bowling. Today's bowlers are a bunch of candy asses who want the lanes walled up so they can score. There is no honor in an honor score anymore...hence the reason the USBC stopped GIVING rings for them. If bowling on today's garbage makes you happy....good for you. I for one want to EARN my score and want them to be tough.
@@perfect1150 so your saying it’s easier?… how come only 9 people have ever bowled a 900 before? Ever in the world. I happen to went to school with one of them and bowl with them, his name is Robbie Portalatin , wow such anger u have. 😂 you need to chill out. It’s all practice and one of my friends own a center and the type of oil patterns Vs the kind of balls, is difficult as any time. Chill out
*That is not bowling, that is a trap that is not in the rules of the game, because he uses one finger, while the opponents use THREE, and that is taking an advantage over the opponent.*
*_(AND MORE IF THE OPPONENT DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO USE THAT TECHNIQUE!)_*
*He is using 8-pound balls, while given his weight and height he should be using at least 18 or 20-pound balls, so that he would be even with the opponent.*
*If bowling had been **_"DESIGNED"_** with a single hole for a single finger (THE THUMB), this is how it should be played, **_THAT IS NOT PLAYING BOWLING, NO MATTER WHAT ALL THE PEOPLE SAY AND IT BURNS TO WHOM IT BURNS !_*
*_THAT'S NOT THE ORGINAL BOWLING GAME!!_*
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He threw a standard 15lb certified ball like most professionals. He uses a two-finger setup and stretched the index and thumb for better balance. The best bowler in the world has been 2 handed for a long time now (no thumb) - it's time for you bowling purists and traditionalists to get a grip. - It's about knocking down the pins using a ball. The fact you also blasted that in 50% caps and bold lettering shows you're mad and you're probably under a 200 average while a bunch of no-thumbers are better than you. You'll get over it though. Quit coping to ease your ego.
16lbs and above is currently against PBA ruleset. My job is done here folks.