I know a lot of people will probably disagree with but for me John is the best in the patter roles. He doesn't try to over act or clown around and he plays the part to perfection and his crystal clear diction even in the fastest songs is an utter pleasure to listen to.
You are right, John Reed is the best. However, his diction is so good in this song because the person posting it here has replaced the music from this 1973 video of Pinafore with the music from the 1959 recording. The fascinating thing is that the tempi are the same so that it works. I first noticed it because Cousin Hebe did not sound like Pauline Wales. Then, I remembered that Reed’s diction on the 1973 video differs from the 1959 recording. In 1973, he must have had trouble with his teeth, because “such” had become “shuch”. The same can be said of the 1971 recording where the same happened.
@jackanorybiggins I think what the D'Oyly Carte company did was adhere to Gilbert's philosophy that his operas were funnier when the actors took them more seriously, due to the contrast against the ridiculous scenarios they were in. Personally, while I don't fully agree with that take, I at least respect where Gilbert was coming from, and others' decision to go with that way of thinking, but I also respect, say, the Stratford Festival's approach of making it more over-the-top and farcical, as that has its own comedic value that many might prefer.
Dumb RUclips decisions of inactive accounts. A lot of valuable information has been lost lately. This is the burning of the Library of Alexandria of the XXI century, there is a lot of videos I can't find anywhere else that has been deleted. I guess new Fortnite videos are more important than keeping the culture of the human kind.
I found both the audio and video on youtube by searching up "HMS Pinafore." The audio from under "Stay On Target's" profile and the video from, "David Rumelle's."
I prefer performances where the character takes himself more seriously as that was part of the point. Part of the satire was that he thought it was totally legitimate to be named head of the navy (a fact the audience of course knows is false)
Is there a reason why you decided not to use the sound track from the video, but the one from the 1959 recording? It is incredible that the tempi are so much alike that it works, but I would have preferred to listen to Pauline Wales as Hebe rather than Joyce Wright, especially when it is Pauline Wales performing.
Interesting... As many times i have seen Reed on stage and in Pinafore, I never noticed it, but he has a habit of tugging the front of his waistcoat at the end of each stanza. Hardly a big deal, and I suppose if you have been playing this role for 25yrs with the DOC you have to break the monotony with some bossiness. And yet, I have seen Green, Pratt and Reed and each added their distinct brand to the role.
I only saw Reed ...but his performances guided my own theatrical career.....excellent diction.....superb.........he was my D'oyly Carte hero.....got his autograph out side the stage door one wednesday afternoon.....on my way to choir practice....at the Birmingham Alexandra....he was walking his dog Sheba...."To Philip...John Reed.....good luck sinscerly.,......I still have it....along with Henry Lytton Bertha Lewis...and......Rutland Barrington.....I need to sell them on....any offers..????
"I always voted at my party's call, and I never thought of thinking for myself at all!" Sir Joseph is basically what autistics think every neurotypical is like.
I know a lot of people will probably disagree with but for me John is the best in the patter roles. He doesn't try to over act or clown around and he plays the part to perfection and his crystal clear diction even in the fastest songs is an utter pleasure to listen to.
Agree 100 percent. John Reed is the best!
It is a signature of the D'oyle G&S recordings.
You are right, John Reed is the best. However, his diction is so good in this song because the person posting it here has replaced the music from this 1973 video of Pinafore with the music from the 1959 recording. The fascinating thing is that the tempi are the same so that it works. I first noticed it because Cousin Hebe did not sound like Pauline Wales. Then, I remembered that Reed’s diction on the 1973 video differs from the 1959 recording. In 1973, he must have had trouble with his teeth, because “such” had become “shuch”. The same can be said of the 1971 recording where the same happened.
@@DanielJames-dg2zs thanks for the info. I applaud your knowledge on the subject. I love hearing interesting being the scenes information like that.
@jackanorybiggins I think what the D'Oyly Carte company did was adhere to Gilbert's philosophy that his operas were funnier when the actors took them more seriously, due to the contrast against the ridiculous scenarios they were in. Personally, while I don't fully agree with that take, I at least respect where Gilbert was coming from, and others' decision to go with that way of thinking, but I also respect, say, the Stratford Festival's approach of making it more over-the-top and farcical, as that has its own comedic value that many might prefer.
'I thought so little they rewarded me, that now I am the ruler of the queens navy...'😅😅😅
ABSOLUTE FIRE
"Stick close to your desk and never go to sea, and you'll all be the rulers of the Queens Navy."
😄😄😄😄
You have no idea how many times I played this during the Pandemic.
This is the best one
Wonderful diction and music. Such brilliant writing ,score, costume and performance 😊
Excellent and enjoyable. I could hear every word clearly too!
john reed the best sir joseph.i'm fed up with the clowning act now
awesome ty
Enjoy, Dad xx
Me encanta ❤❤
How does the poor blighter ever get any privacy with his sisters and his cousins and his aunts always around?
he doesn't
Say, does anyone know where I can find the full recording of this wonderful show? Sadly, youtube no longer has it, nor does Amazon.
Dumb RUclips decisions of inactive accounts. A lot of valuable information has been lost lately. This is the burning of the Library of Alexandria of the XXI century, there is a lot of videos I can't find anywhere else that has been deleted. I guess new Fortnite videos are more important than keeping the culture of the human kind.
Is this blocked for you? ruclips.net/video/N6iNGprcxFI/видео.html&t
ruclips.net/video/N6iNGprcxFI/видео.html
I found both the audio and video on youtube by searching up "HMS Pinafore." The audio from under "Stay On Target's" profile and the video from, "David Rumelle's."
I prefer performances where the character takes himself more seriously as that was part of the point. Part of the satire was that he thought it was totally legitimate to be named head of the navy (a fact the audience of course knows is false)
Is there a reason why you decided not to use the sound track from the video, but the one from the 1959 recording? It is incredible that the tempi are so much alike that it works, but I would have preferred to listen to Pauline Wales as Hebe rather than Joyce Wright, especially when it is Pauline Wales performing.
I imagine a big part of it is that the video has a pretty long break between the last two verses. You can see where they made the cut too.
Interesting... As many times i have seen Reed on stage and in Pinafore, I never noticed it, but he has a habit of tugging the front of his waistcoat at the end of each stanza. Hardly a big deal, and I suppose if you have been playing this role for 25yrs with the DOC you have to break the monotony with some bossiness. And yet, I have seen Green, Pratt and Reed and each added their distinct brand to the role.
Ah...The Picard Maneuver.
I only saw Reed ...but his performances guided my own theatrical career.....excellent diction.....superb.........he was my D'oyly Carte hero.....got his autograph out side the stage door one wednesday afternoon.....on my way to choir practice....at the Birmingham Alexandra....he was walking his dog Sheba...."To Philip...John Reed.....good luck sinscerly.,......I still have it....along with Henry Lytton Bertha Lewis...and......Rutland Barrington.....I need to sell them on....any offers..????
This seems like an example of "The Peter Principle". Am I wrong?
I think it's Stewie
He was loosely based on bookseller W.H. Smith who became First Lord of the Admiralty.
William S. Gilbert: The first rap writer. Prove me wrong.
good actors/singers.... soundman not so good
"I always voted at my party's call, and I never thought of thinking for myself at all!"
Sir Joseph is basically what autistics think every neurotypical is like.
...what?
spot on.
haha
I don't like the British Empire. Even a little.
Buy I do like Gilbert & Sullivan.
How on Earth did they survive the British Empire?
😂😂😂
Oof. Not a good one. Dreadfully slow, unexpressive, and still.