Franky knows the Game of keeping himself current. And from what I can see he's always done this kinda thing. Start drama, cause even bad press is good press.
Frankie only does this because his band isn’t really relevant anymore. And he is jealous that alpha has gotten so big in such a short time. It’s like in the 90s and early 2000s when Mötley Crüe was pissed off because grunge took off, Nirvana took over and they weren’t the hot thing anymore.
This entirely! This kinda shit in the past is why I stopped listening to Emmure.. I started out loving their music back in high school.. but I'm not for the drama scene at all..
We know Joshua Travis is the cool guy in the band. He's always been a decent human. Never talks shit. He even played with alpha wolf on the last song of the tour. GORF SQUAD!!!!! 🤜🏽🐱
The fact that Frankie personally told Joshua Travis he can't play to his full potentional and hone all his skills if he is writing with emmure basically told him turn down your mind boggling skills. Which is in a a way okay to keep that raw sound that is emmure and I guess he's happy doing so. But still lol
@@WhirlwindDrumsim not going to try and pretend that im close friends with them or anything but i was acquainted with him in the mid 2010s when they were just a local band in the hardcore scene and he was always nice as hell to me. We had a local band fest in Houston and he recognized me from twitter and referred to me by name and i was kind of shocked because i was new to the scene then. He was also nice and humble and the band has always ripped.
I’m pretty sure I watched a podcast where Sabian credited Emmure with inspiring Alpha Wolfs sound years back. Hard to believe this is real beef, but whatever. Both bands are sick af imo.
Man alpha wolf have emmure covered at the moment. I'm a big emmure fan and the sets they played here in Australia recently were trash. They finished sets early and just walked off. Frankie posted saying they pretty much won't be coming back to Australia. Pretty lame to be honest.
@@ashburncitystandup9707 i find it weird that he complains about hated in his songs, but he acts like he reaslly wants us to hate him, he wants all the other bands to hate him and he wants his own bandmated to hate him too by preventing them from touring.
I've seen Emmure a few times when they opened for As I Lay Dying all the way back in 2019 & recently when they were a supporting act for We Came As Romans. No problems there so why Alpha Wolf?
tbh, it was odd for me to see Emmure opening up for Alpha Wolf and not the other way around, as much as I absolutely love Alpha Wolf (one of my favorite bands of the last 5 years)! that being said, I haven’t seen anything indicating that there’s any real attention between the two groups 🤷🏼♂️ Frankie very well could be trolling, and I kinda hope he is..😄
Out here in Australia we have been pretty sure they have been low-key beefing for ages. At the end of Emmure's song trash folder there is a distorted voice with an Aussie accent that says "I just like to make music" which is apparently one of Alpha Wolf's guitarist in an interview. Where he didn't give Frankie his "flowers" for ripping off Emmure's style. Well, So sayeth the rumour mill 🤷
Frankly I think emmure and alpha wolf are rubbish. Just another couple bands who sound just like every other so called metalcore band these days, they all sound the same, nothing separates them at all musically. One massive snoozefest
I would love to know what prompted frankie to exclude alpha wolf from his posts etc. did they get into a verbal or physical conflict or something before this post?
I know he's just doing it for the publicity but there is something unforgivably cringe and pathetic when a member of a band that's been around for 20 years hits a new up-and-coming band with a low blow that cheap. Just unnecessary and tinged with jealousy at AWs recent come up. Love both bands but I'm gonna struggle to take Frankie seriously as a front man after this pathetic display. Super low man
In Toronto Alphawolf shouted out only Chamber and Unity TX, not Emmure. It felt odd right away, Alphawolf used to do Emmure covers way back when, I wondered if there was some tension brewing there. Sad too see Frankie be so salty , but if you love the band you know what to expect from him usually 😂 Not surprised lol.... I will say I bought merch from both them, and one had a huge line..... it wasn't Emmure 🫣
i saw them in Montreal and i thought all the bands were awesome. But Alpha Wolf and Unity TX had much better merch. And much better attitudes too it seems....
I was at that show too and thought it was weird alot of people left after emmure set. Both bands rock seems like that singer of emmure is a shitty person.
I did walk out after Emmure but for a valid reason, I had a bad stomach ache and spent the last few songs of Emmure on the 🚽haha! They did deliver a great show! After that, I just decided to go back home as I wasn't feeling well !💩💩💩💩💩
Emmure's sound is basically the blueprint for Alpha Wolf, i remember them mentioning something along those lines on Garza's podcast when they went either last year or in 2022. I guess Frankie's not too happy about being upstaged by what is essentially Emmure Junior... it's kinda sad that he just can't keep his piss takes to himself and try to get along with people... i guess he really wants us to "hate him if it makes us feel better", but it doesn't it just makes us feel sorry for Joshua Travis and the other dudes in the band. I saw them in Montreal and all the bands were awesome!
Alphawolf has cut their teeth for this. Come on Franky... Emmure is great, but chill out. Why book the show if you aren't going to be chill with the people you are traveling with? Was this the plan?
My thing is like I’m sure they agreed to go on the tour and yeah crowds left the shows early but also why you wanna just go start stuff for nothing? Just seems childish and personally wouldn’t wanna deal with guys like that. I personally enjoyed all the bands but honestly don’t respect Franky for acting like a child.
i gotta say, i seen the tour in Milwaukee... never heard any of these bands before that night... I agree with this Frankie guy. When Alpha Wolf hit the stage, I looked at my buddy like, who tf put these guys as the headliner? They're sound was absolute garbage compared to every opening act... I left prolly 3 songs into Alpha Wolf. idk if it was the FOH guy or what but the mix was NOT good. They sounded bad. I wanted to get behind the board myself to fix it but decided to leave instead. lmfao
Franky is not a fake and is not being negative or anything these new upcoming bands are coming out acting like their "intensity" began with them while EMMURE has been in the game for the last nearly 20 YEARS like sit down and respect the older bands.. Like Alpha Wolf literally gained inspiration from Emmure and EMMURE Being a Support Band like Emmure hasn't been touring FOR HOW LONG?! Umm HELLOOOOOOOOO that's like you being a manager for a 5 star restaurant and some newbie joins the managers team and thinks he owns the placee.. it's like a Dad to a Son it's called RESPECT Hell Emmure has a fn album called THE RESPECT iSSUE HEELlOOOOOOOOOOOO
I hope we don't turn into hiphop with souljah boi beef clout as a core main feature of the music. Liaten to osdm, you won't find labia complain about a single thing round these parts, partna.
Saw the tour with both bands, when Emmure started playing, this guy and girl rudely shoved their way in front of me and my gf at the very front and were tweaking out so hard they ended up starting a fight with this other couple next to us, and got kicked out. As security was taking them out the crazy methed up chick was trying to choke the security guard. Emmure didnt even stop playing they just let it happen. The band screams immaturity, and their fans scream it back.
Alpha wolf is pretty good , nothing more or less and haters gotta realize they doing something right if they headlining . If it aimt a clout stunt then emmure is emmature 😂😂
Wait back up, they toured and Alpha Wolf was the headliner? How? They/he had some radio play a few years ago from a cover and then I thought people moved on
Nah dude they've gained a lot of traction over the past few years. Emmure on the other hand have been pretty stagnant. So Frankie's out here stirring the pot just to make his band relevant again.
Haven’t listened to Alpha Wolf in years. They’re not a bad band. But they sound like every other band in the scene, especially today’s Emmure. You could easily put Frankie’s vocals over any Alpha Wolf song and it’ll sound like something off Look At Yourself or Hindsight. Which makes sense as to why they were on the bill with Emmure.
Oh if only Tony Danza would reunite. Hell even Glass Cloud at this point. JT is the ONLY reason Emmure is remotely relevant at this point in their career, yet the music is quite mediocre. The reason is clear as to why.
Alpha Wolf practically did the same thing years ago talking shit about "crowdkilling" at shows (which has been around for ages). Then proceeds to tour with a band like Knocked Loose years later.
I mean a drama consist of males aka kids in differ ages ofc it'll spreads to others like wildfires (they're in bands ffs) 😂 and let's not start wit the name ""alpha wolf""
yeah when i went to go see emmure i left before alpha wolf too lmao and so did hella people, no disrespect but i saw the best band of the line up and i kinda wanna get home cuz i work the next day lmao
Franky knows the Game of keeping himself current. And from what I can see he's always done this kinda thing. Start drama, cause even bad press is good press.
Kinda like Fronz and Ronnie
@@WhirlwindDrums you know.
Sadly the thing we want from him the most, new music from his band, is a rare commodity
@@WhirlwindDrums Fronz doesn't really start drama though, people just don't like him because of the old "Atilla lifestyle"
Frankie only does this because his band isn’t really relevant anymore. And he is jealous that alpha has gotten so big in such a short time. It’s like in the 90s and early 2000s when Mötley Crüe was pissed off because grunge took off, Nirvana took over
and they weren’t the hot thing anymore.
Maybe it's because emmure who is an older band is opening for a newer band... He feels jealous maybe. But i like both bands!
This entirely! This kinda shit in the past is why I stopped listening to Emmure.. I started out loving their music back in high school.. but I'm not for the drama scene at all..
They're both good bands. Dont care about the beef too much.
We know Joshua Travis is the cool guy in the band. He's always been a decent human. Never talks shit. He even played with alpha wolf on the last song of the tour. GORF SQUAD!!!!! 🤜🏽🐱
Josh Travis is just a treasure of a human being. He’s one of the only reasons Emmure is even still relevant.
The fact that Frankie personally told Joshua Travis he can't play to his full potentional and hone all his skills if he is writing with emmure basically told him turn down your mind boggling skills. Which is in a a way okay to keep that raw sound that is emmure and I guess he's happy doing so. But still lol
@@curse6of6me6we all know if Josh went 100% with emmure then everyone would ignore the material and just complain they want glass cloud and Danza back
@@DannyTOG well said
@curse6of6me6 where did you hear this story? Not even close to true. The choice to go more simplistic was JTs choice lol.
Shout out to Unity Tx, they're under rated.
They were really good live!
They’re sooooo good 😻
Haven't listened to them much.
But Shaolin G's verse in Evolving by Darko is straight fire!
@@WhirlwindDrumsim not going to try and pretend that im close friends with them or anything but i was acquainted with him in the mid 2010s when they were just a local band in the hardcore scene and he was always nice as hell to me. We had a local band fest in Houston and he recognized me from twitter and referred to me by name and i was kind of shocked because i was new to the scene then. He was also nice and humble and the band has always ripped.
I'll have to check them out then thanks!
This is Frankie’s whole image
Went to the show in Cincinnati. AlphaWolf by far had the more energetic and involved crowd.
Same for New York
Hell yea!
It’s honestly better to be support sometimes than the headliner.
Didn’t the whole band leave Emmure because of Frankie?
That should probably tell you how hard he is to work with lol
literally made a song about it too, lol “russian hotel aftermath”
@@Baldpate_driverwhoa?! I stopped listening to Emmure a long time ago.. but I didn't know this.. is it a good song to listen to?
He’s the last member of his band
@@AshApocalyptic no lmao. Imo, everything past slave to the game is not good
Didn’t Emmure beef with The Acacia Strain too?
Yeah I heard about that awhile back. Idk what's going on current.
Yep, they settled it a while ago luckily.
Brass knuckles were involved
They are always starting drama, they make good music but are annoying as people
Beef with Acacia Strain and the Attila before that
I’m pretty sure I watched a podcast where Sabian credited Emmure with inspiring Alpha Wolfs sound years back. Hard to believe this is real beef, but whatever. Both bands are sick af imo.
I saw them live only stayed for emmure
same literally
@@metalheadowlslitaf4414 I did stay for alpha wolf but only like three songs then I left
bruh literally same
Man alpha wolf have emmure covered at the moment. I'm a big emmure fan and the sets they played here in Australia recently were trash. They finished sets early and just walked off. Frankie posted saying they pretty much won't be coming back to Australia. Pretty lame to be honest.
@@ashburncitystandup9707 i find it weird that he complains about hated in his songs, but he acts like he reaslly wants us to hate him, he wants all the other bands to hate him and he wants his own bandmated to hate him too by preventing them from touring.
Literally!! That's exactly what happened to my show lol emmure played and EVERYONE LEFT lol
I was at the show for emmure straight up 🤘
Been with Emmure since the early days! 👊🏼
I've seen Emmure a few times when they opened for As I Lay Dying all the way back in 2019 & recently when they were a supporting act for We Came As Romans. No problems there so why Alpha Wolf?
tbh, it was odd for me to see Emmure opening up for Alpha Wolf and not the other way around, as much as I absolutely love Alpha Wolf (one of my favorite bands of the last 5 years)! that being said, I haven’t seen anything indicating that there’s any real attention between the two groups 🤷🏼♂️ Frankie very well could be trolling, and I kinda hope he is..😄
Out here in Australia we have been pretty sure they have been low-key beefing for ages.
At the end of Emmure's song trash folder there is a distorted voice with an Aussie accent that says "I just like to make music" which is apparently one of Alpha Wolf's guitarist in an interview. Where he didn't give Frankie his "flowers" for ripping off Emmure's style.
Well, So sayeth the rumour mill 🤷
Never head of Alpha Wolf, need to have some respect for their elders. 2013 y’all are some HxC babies compared to Frankie 🤣
whos alpha wolf
No shit
theyre a good band
@@RockFeed I shall check them out
Frankly I think emmure and alpha wolf are rubbish. Just another couple bands who sound just like every other so called metalcore band these days, they all sound the same, nothing separates them at all musically. One massive snoozefest
I wanna know to 😂
Emmure is my generation of metal alpha wolf hasn't been in the game long
Same, but AW are definitely picking it up IMO
No matter what is happening Alpha Wolf are the better band 🤘🏼🇦🇺
Love the CKY shirt!
I would love to know what prompted frankie to exclude alpha wolf from his posts etc. did they get into a verbal or physical conflict or something before this post?
Now I’m old lol but I seen this show and emmure is why I went and emmure and unity tx stole that show in my eyes.
I know he's just doing it for the publicity but there is something unforgivably cringe and pathetic when a member of a band that's been around for 20 years hits a new up-and-coming band with a low blow that cheap. Just unnecessary and tinged with jealousy at AWs recent come up. Love both bands but I'm gonna struggle to take Frankie seriously as a front man after this pathetic display. Super low man
In Toronto Alphawolf shouted out only Chamber and Unity TX, not Emmure. It felt odd right away, Alphawolf used to do Emmure covers way back when, I wondered if there was some tension brewing there.
Sad too see Frankie be so salty , but if you love the band you know what to expect from him usually 😂 Not surprised lol.... I will say I bought merch from both them, and one had a huge line..... it wasn't Emmure 🫣
i saw them in Montreal and i thought all the bands were awesome. But Alpha Wolf and Unity TX had much better merch. And much better attitudes too it seems....
When did they stop doing Emmure covers? Like their music could all be Emmure covers.
I was at that show too and thought it was weird alot of people left after emmure set. Both bands rock seems like that singer of emmure is a shitty person.
Love Emmure and Alpha Wolf both excellent 👌 👏
Alpha Wolf is just good, modern Emmure, I'd be mad too if I was fading into obscurity like Frankie
I went to the Cincinnati show in this tour second time seeing Emmure way smaller crowd than the first time
I was recently introduced to emmure and I wanna see em live
I highly recommend. Learn the lyrics and then go and yell them at frankie as loud as you possibly can.
Went to this tour and Emmure made sense to be the headliner over Alphawolf, they had more
Energy and have been around for a while.
I'm sure Frankie would agree with you 😂
Alpha wolf either love it or hate it. Seen them twice live killed it both times.
I did walk out after Emmure but for a valid reason, I had a bad stomach ache and spent the last few songs of Emmure on the 🚽haha! They did deliver a great show! After that, I just decided to go back home as I wasn't feeling well !💩💩💩💩💩
Emmure's sound is basically the blueprint for Alpha Wolf, i remember them mentioning something along those lines on Garza's podcast when they went either last year or in 2022.
I guess Frankie's not too happy about being upstaged by what is essentially Emmure Junior... it's kinda sad that he just can't keep his piss takes to himself and try to get along with people... i guess he really wants us to "hate him if it makes us feel better", but it doesn't it just makes us feel sorry for Joshua Travis and the other dudes in the band.
I saw them in Montreal and all the bands were awesome!
That's a shame. Drama between 2 bands that put on kickass shows all tour. Boston was amazing, Unity and Chamber included.
Alphawolf has cut their teeth for this. Come on Franky... Emmure is great, but chill out.
Why book the show if you aren't going to be chill with the people you are traveling with? Was this the plan?
Did I miss an emmure show and not even know it?!
They wasted ice T on that new track
Seen the recent tour. Definitely more people in the crowd for emmure. Chambers was a real surprise for me, they killed it live.
My thing is like I’m sure they agreed to go on the tour and yeah crowds left the shows early but also why you wanna just go start stuff for nothing? Just seems childish and personally wouldn’t wanna deal with guys like that. I personally enjoyed all the bands but honestly don’t respect Franky for acting like a child.
This is absolute 🔥🔥🔥
I mean alot of the crowd left after Cleveland too... Emmure shoulda headlined the tour but alpha wolf killed it
Literally just seen alpha wolf live like 2hrs ago and WOW lit af
i gotta say, i seen the tour in Milwaukee... never heard any of these bands before that night... I agree with this Frankie guy. When Alpha Wolf hit the stage, I looked at my buddy like, who tf put these guys as the headliner? They're sound was absolute garbage compared to every opening act... I left prolly 3 songs into Alpha Wolf. idk if it was the FOH guy or what but the mix was NOT good. They sounded bad. I wanted to get behind the board myself to fix it but decided to leave instead. lmfao
Franky is not a fake and is not being negative or anything these new upcoming bands are coming out acting like their "intensity" began with them while EMMURE has been in the game for the last nearly 20 YEARS like sit down and respect the older bands.. Like Alpha Wolf literally gained inspiration from Emmure and EMMURE Being a Support Band like Emmure hasn't been touring FOR HOW LONG?! Umm HELLOOOOOOOOO that's like you being a manager for a 5 star restaurant and some newbie joins the managers team and thinks he owns the placee.. it's like a Dad to a Son it's called RESPECT Hell Emmure has a fn album called THE RESPECT iSSUE HEELlOOOOOOOOOOOO
I love both bands I hoped to see them on this tour but I was in reception for the army
Maybe a lack of respect from Alpha Wolf. Gotta give respect to Emmure, they been there before. Emmure still hits hard!
AQPTD was waaaaay better???
sounds like he's just trolling. taking the piss as we say in Australia. don't take everything you see seriously
Who and who?
Emmure would've been the only band worth sticking around for imo,the others slap hard as well,but emmure hit different
Who???
Just two deathcore bands trying to act tough. They suck. You didnt miss anything
@@ozzie4306 That’s what I figured. 😏
Saw them in Toronto and Alpha Wolf was unreal! Emmure was whatever...
Everyone having a good laugh! Love both bands 🤘🤘🤘
I hope we don't turn into hiphop with souljah boi beef clout as a core main feature of the music. Liaten to osdm, you won't find labia complain about a single thing round these parts, partna.
Maybe Frankie should do a new album so he will be relevant again...
Saw the tour with both bands, when Emmure started playing, this guy and girl rudely shoved their way in front of me and my gf at the very front and were tweaking out so hard they ended up starting a fight with this other couple next to us, and got kicked out. As security was taking them out the crazy methed up chick was trying to choke the security guard. Emmure didnt even stop playing they just let it happen. The band screams immaturity, and their fans scream it back.
I like Emmure's music a lot, but Frankie just seems like such an ass
Ita bold of you to label all of their fans as immature lmao 🤡
Alpha wolf is pretty good , nothing more or less and haters gotta realize they doing something right if they headlining . If it aimt a clout stunt then emmure is emmature 😂😂
Wait back up, they toured and Alpha Wolf was the headliner? How? They/he had some radio play a few years ago from a cover and then I thought people moved on
Mate, alpha wolf are way bigger than emmure now. What rock you been sleeping under?
We don’t have a cover also
Nah dude they've gained a lot of traction over the past few years. Emmure on the other hand have been pretty stagnant. So Frankie's out here stirring the pot just to make his band relevant again.
Why Frankie why?
Haven’t listened to Alpha Wolf in years. They’re not a bad band. But they sound like every other band in the scene, especially today’s Emmure. You could easily put Frankie’s vocals over any Alpha Wolf song and it’ll sound like something off Look At Yourself or Hindsight. Which makes sense as to why they were on the bill with Emmure.
That is why my feelings towards Emmure are mixed. Frank is... Frank.
Getting wicked 16 year old girl vibes from this one. Why feed the lame flame? That's not very rock like.
Emmure went to shit after the band quit on Frankie.
Ehhh … their songs are starting to sound the same in previous albums 😂😂
They're probably best friends IRL and are just pulling a stunt to get more attention. Not the first time Emmure has done this lol!
High school drama 🤦🏻♂ fr😭
I wonder if it was roast beef 😮
Alpha Wolf is such a lame name 😂
Alpha Wolf > Emmure FTW
Great tour I seen it massachusetts.
Sounds petty.
Oh if only Tony Danza would reunite. Hell even Glass Cloud at this point. JT is the ONLY reason Emmure is remotely relevant at this point in their career, yet the music is quite mediocre. The reason is clear as to why.
Emmure ?🤔
Last year when alpha wolf toured with bodysnatcher and vatican i left before alpha wolf because the best part of the tour was vatican and bodysnatcher
Alpha Wolf practically did the same thing years ago talking shit about "crowdkilling" at shows (which has been around for ages).
Then proceeds to tour with a band like Knocked Loose years later.
In regards to stirring the pot.
Toured with BSnatch too
I never heard of any of these bands. Out of the loop I guess
Emmures first album was 07, been out of the loop awhile lol
BRiNG BACK EMMURE
huh... I've never heard of either of these bands.
Sucks to suck m8
You're far from alone.
Edgy warped tour bands
lol well, yeah kinda. I did check them both out after seeing this video though, and I dig what I heard!
Its all comedy
Look at yourself Frankie quit being so righteous
Learnin from the master Fred Durst indeed hehehe! :P
Emmure over alpha wolf
Wrong
facts
By miles. Alphawolf would have to find a new band to sound like if Emmure wasn't around lol
@@goose5761 without Emmure there is no Alpha Wolf!
I mean a drama consist of males aka kids in differ ages ofc it'll spreads to others like wildfires (they're in bands ffs) 😂 and let's not start wit the name ""alpha wolf""
Interesting.
Just saw Emmure in Tampa and left after emmure! That’s all I was there for ! 🤘🏻
Emmure=Frankie.
Alpha wolf is way better
Before I even watch this, I'm already siding with Emmure lol
Lmay why? 😂
Alpha Wolf are the only ones with talent
Alright let's nit get ahead of ourselves
🤘 😁 🤘
yeah when i went to go see emmure i left before alpha wolf too lmao and so did hella people, no disrespect but i saw the best band of the line up and i kinda wanna get home cuz i work the next day lmao
I left for emmure and came back for alpha wolf
That's what sniffing glue will do to ya 😢
alphamid
Im here for all the alpha wolf slander
I literally only went in Brisbane for Emmure and then left before Alpha Wolf.
Saw emmure with alpha wolf in NY a few months ago AW kinda sucked
Emmure f**** beta wolf
Alpha Wolf really create drama wherever they go