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Electric travels along the outside of the copper. Which is why stranded wire is less resistive compared to solid wire. Basically your setup will conduct more current with less heat buildup. Keep up the good work.
Kiera ask: Do you want the recipe, DO you all want to learn how she does it? Would people flip out if she made a K-Bread video?? We use the Shop Kitchen so its handy to do!
Great Idea, Used smashed copper pipe as bus bars in 1990 for my Slot Car Track Hot Taps every Fifteen feet of my Hassie Blue King in the Day. Love the Bread Idea...
Excellent timing. I got my first 100ah lithium battery from power queen almost two weeks ago. All my sealed lead acid batteries are dead. One I got back in 2009 in december I think. The other two were in a power scooter and from 2013.
If you take 3 Lead Acids, and add 1 of the 100 ah Lithium to them using a VSR in the circuit, you get 1/2 the cost, 300% the power, 30% more lifespan, and 25% more stability with the ability to run high amp Inverters. Stay tuned, I did make videos on this.
See the public post on my channel, community post. I uploaded the newest K art. She takes that KoFi or buy coffee stuff people send and supplies herself with unique things.
Twice I ordered copper washers and was sent brass. Then I found another source through Newegg which were actually copper. Your "copper" washers look like brass in the video. Great idea by the way with the laminated bus bars. I have to build some with 2, 90 degree bends so your idea will make that much easier to form. Thanks
Yes, these I am using are those 85/15 washers for battery lugs. Supposed to not get corrosion on them. 85% copper, 15% tin antimony mix. No zinc or odd metals in them. I get them from NAPA Auto parts. Made for riding mower batteries. Good for 250 amps as claimed by them, made in Wisconsin. To get pure copper washers the best source is Graingers or Zoro.
Laminated Buss bars are not a new thing, but you are right to do it the way you do. Back in the day I had to install my first one in an airport hangar. It was to link to a 400A 415V infra red heating unit control. I swore blind it would not carry the load and was firmly put in my place by Merlin Gerin (the manufacturer). It just felt too light to me so I took some pics of it .... way before mobile phones .... and on arriving at work the following day was told I had come close to burning down a jumbo jet (I think they exaggerated there a bit) but they did fly a team to the UK from France to replace it overnight ..... and they wanted me sacking for not torquing up the bolts. Well they did right up until I told them I had photos that did not match the new bus bar size! Strange how some things pan out! Nearly 40 years later I am about to retire from the same company ;o) How do you go on with temp monitoring of those stacked batteries. I am sure you check it but notice there is no air gap round them. Do they stay cool? I don't need to ask about the bars temp ...... they Are Cool ;o)
The batteries have a top to bottom taper to the case, they are not totally squared. So They have a 8mm grid shim on their bottoms to level them while laying sideways, and a behind the group look would show over a 1" to wall clearance and a good airflow around them. The final mass of the copper is 25mm wide and 3.25 mm thick, the equivalent of 1 x 1/8" with 3/16 x 5/8 copper washers compressing.
I went to Lowe’s and purchased 3 gage copper pipe and smashed them with an iron mallet to get as flat as I can get them and it works fine with over 100 amps flowing through them.i smash the copper pipe as flat as I can get them to illuminate the Hall effect creating a magnetic field. That field can drop the desired voltage required, depending on the of the person and preference of the all out
The Hall Effect is very unlikely in your set up to any real loss or effect without introducing a ferrous material significant for passive magnetism. The bolts or screws may eddy some but not to a point where your power is hampered in any way. If you call a local AC/HEAT or PLUMBER and ask for 12" plus long scrap copper pieces Type L and Type K soft and offer them 2X the scrap price you can save a ton on buying it at retail.
Hi . On your battery connection..should not the 2nd E made of this copper bussbars be oriented the same way as the first one? For symetry and equal resistance? I am thinking you want all those 9 12v batteries take or give same current. Keep up this videos ..we have alot to learn from you !
You would want the travel to be balanced if you intended to pull near the max available normally but since this is 36 volt and the intended pull on them is about 50% at anytime this is OK. In a high use scenario you would X , -- and E the design for balance.
as a scrapper im wondering about melting copper and pouring my own bus bars. would it require any special purification? a small setup to dress and shape the copper bars would not require a lot, and the removed material could be used to make the next bus bar?
Purity should remain near the same if you use the right crucibles to do process and scoop off any slag of oxalated material from it. I have made custom bars in the past this way. You just need to exceed 95% pure to achieve the goals.
The 1/2 or 3/4 pipe is the premium way to do it, but the reason for the video was the copper tape is heavy enough, and handy enough that it should be shown as a option for so many who can make things similar from it when copper pipe is overkill or not available.
Safety since 36 is many hundreds of percentages safer than 48 volt, Peak efficiency since the Mosfets and Diodes are at their natural highest performance between 29 and 44 volts, and the 36 volt is the most impressive way to charge with a 48 volt wind turbine in low wind areas.
Copper, Always use only Copper. Even Red Brass is less effective than Aluminum in DC power. People think that brass is a great conductor, it is not actually due to the alignment of the electrons in brass compared to copper.
Hello Brother John and Little Sister. Have you tried out the New HQST 100Watt 10BB Panels yet??? I might order some. Some of the spec numbers are better, some maybe worst ??? I don't know what all of the spec numbers mean in relation to output. I can't wait to see a video comparison of the 9BB to the 10BB. Thank you. Sportsmobile83
Avoid the 9bb, 10bb and what ever next they use to sell you panels with 0.68mm thick cells. They will degrade so fast its a loss to even buy. Only BluSun and Renogy have the 9bb with a full 0.90 cells. My absolute best find WHILE THEY LAST is the Rich Solar 5 full buss amzn.to/3vJg1mA and I am buying as many as I can while they are available, soon they will be screwed too. They have the 1.12mm thick ergocrystal mono cells, Best known as Taiwan made Q-Cells. I am trying like crazy to get 50 of them ASAP. They already stopped selling singles, won't be long then all you have is the new junk. I would rather a micro crack in a cell happen and loose 2% over a total hazing the thin ones have and loose 70%.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 I was researching them because that is what you had put on the SHTF list on Amazon. I got on their site and they showed the 10bb cells now. I'm glad that you got back to me before I pushed the button on them. So HQST are crap now ???
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Interesting and informative build. Kiera picked a beautiful dress.👍👍👍👏👏👏👏
Electric travels along the outside of the copper. Which is why stranded wire is less resistive compared to solid wire. Basically your setup will conduct more current with less heat buildup. Keep up the good work.
Solid wire has less resistance than stranded wire not the other way around.
Stranded wire becomes a better choice for its flexibility.
Thanks, I just ordered a copper roll for myself.
That link is to the better quality construction grade and has numerous versions. Avoid the brittle shiny show and craft style.
Sweet diy bus bar and beautiful art!
Thank you! Cheers!
Goodness gracious, that fresh, warm bread looks good... A little butter on it and some fresh coffee, and woooo!! You goine like it, I guaraunteeee!!
Kiera ask: Do you want the recipe, DO you all want to learn how she does it? Would people flip out if she made a K-Bread video??
We use the Shop Kitchen so its handy to do!
Yessssirrreeee!!! Thanks!@@JOHNDANIEL1
I will put it on her K-List!
Great Idea, Used smashed copper pipe as bus bars in 1990 for my Slot Car Track Hot Taps every Fifteen feet of my Hassie Blue King in the Day.
Love the Bread Idea...
Excellent timing. I got my first 100ah lithium battery from power queen almost two weeks ago. All my sealed lead acid batteries are dead. One I got back in 2009 in december I think. The other two were in a power scooter and from 2013.
If you take 3 Lead Acids, and add 1 of the 100 ah Lithium to them using a VSR in the circuit, you get 1/2 the cost, 300% the power, 30% more lifespan, and 25% more stability with the ability to run high amp Inverters. Stay tuned, I did make videos on this.
As much as I am impressed with the bus bars, Kiera’s art is even better.
See the public post on my channel, community post. I uploaded the newest K art. She takes that KoFi or buy coffee stuff people send and supplies herself with unique things.
Twice I ordered copper washers and was sent brass. Then I found another source through Newegg which were actually copper. Your "copper" washers look like brass in the video. Great idea by the way with the laminated bus bars. I have to build some with 2, 90 degree bends so your idea will make that much easier to form. Thanks
Yes, these I am using are those 85/15 washers for battery lugs. Supposed to not get corrosion on them. 85% copper, 15% tin antimony mix. No zinc or odd metals in them. I get them from NAPA Auto parts. Made for riding mower batteries. Good for 250 amps as claimed by them, made in Wisconsin. To get pure copper washers the best source is Graingers or Zoro.
Thanks!
Thanks!
Laminated Buss bars are not a new thing, but you are right to do it the way you do.
Back in the day I had to install my first one in an airport hangar. It was to link to a 400A 415V infra red heating unit control. I swore blind it would not carry the load and was firmly put in my place by Merlin Gerin (the manufacturer). It just felt too light to me so I took some pics of it .... way before mobile phones .... and on arriving at work the following day was told I had come close to burning down a jumbo jet (I think they exaggerated there a bit) but they did fly a team to the UK from France to replace it overnight ..... and they wanted me sacking for not torquing up the bolts.
Well they did right up until I told them I had photos that did not match the new bus bar size!
Strange how some things pan out! Nearly 40 years later I am about to retire from the same company ;o)
How do you go on with temp monitoring of those stacked batteries. I am sure you check it but notice there is no air gap round them. Do they stay cool?
I don't need to ask about the bars temp ...... they Are Cool ;o)
The batteries have a top to bottom taper to the case, they are not totally squared. So They have a 8mm grid shim on their bottoms to level them while laying sideways, and a behind the group look would show over a 1" to wall clearance and a good airflow around them. The final mass of the copper is 25mm wide and 3.25 mm thick, the equivalent of 1 x 1/8" with 3/16 x 5/8 copper washers compressing.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 I knew you had it covered ;o)
I went to Lowe’s and purchased 3 gage copper pipe and smashed them with an iron mallet to get as flat as I can get them and it works fine with over 100 amps flowing through them.i smash the copper pipe as flat as I can get them to illuminate the Hall effect creating a magnetic field. That field can drop the desired voltage required, depending on the of the person and preference of the all out
The Hall Effect is very unlikely in your set up to any real loss or effect without introducing a ferrous material significant for passive magnetism. The bolts or screws may eddy some but not to a point where your power is hampered in any way. If you call a local AC/HEAT or PLUMBER and ask for 12" plus long scrap copper pieces Type L and Type K soft and offer them 2X the scrap price you can save a ton on buying it at retail.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 thank you 😊
Smash copper tubing flat , drill holes for buss bar .
Sorta, But its: Smash the right sized, purity and annealed copper flat.
Hi . On your battery connection..should not the 2nd E made of this copper bussbars be oriented the same way as the first one? For symetry and equal resistance? I am thinking you want all those 9 12v batteries take or give same current. Keep up this videos ..we have alot to learn from you !
You would want the travel to be balanced if you intended to pull near the max available normally but since this is 36 volt and the intended pull on them is about 50% at anytime this is OK. In a high use scenario you would X , -- and E the design for balance.
as a scrapper im wondering about melting copper and pouring my own bus bars. would it require any special purification?
a small setup to dress and shape the copper bars would not require a lot, and the removed material could be used to make the next bus bar?
Purity should remain near the same if you use the right crucibles to do process and scoop off any slag of oxalated material from it. I have made custom bars in the past this way. You just need to exceed 95% pure to achieve the goals.
How can these be less work intensive and cheaper than pounding out 1/2" copper pipe?
The 1/2 or 3/4 pipe is the premium way to do it, but the reason for the video was the copper tape is heavy enough, and handy enough that it should be shown as a option for so many who can make things similar from it when copper pipe is overkill or not available.
Now I thought you cant stack Timeusb batteries on there side, there you have 3 stacked on there sides?
I may have missed it in another video-why 36v rather than 24 or 48?
Safety since 36 is many hundreds of percentages safer than 48 volt, Peak efficiency since the Mosfets and Diodes are at their natural highest performance between 29 and 44 volts, and the 36 volt is the most impressive way to charge with a 48 volt wind turbine in low wind areas.
I would like to ask. Whats the buss bar copper or brass?
Copper, Always use only Copper. Even Red Brass is less effective than Aluminum in DC power. People think that brass is a great conductor, it is not actually due to the alignment of the electrons in brass compared to copper.
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Hello Brother John and Little Sister. Have you tried out the New HQST 100Watt 10BB Panels yet??? I might order some. Some of the spec numbers are better, some maybe worst ??? I don't know what all of the spec numbers mean in relation to output. I can't wait to see a video comparison of the 9BB to the 10BB. Thank you. Sportsmobile83
Avoid the 9bb, 10bb and what ever next they use to sell you panels with 0.68mm thick cells. They will degrade so fast its a loss to even buy. Only BluSun and Renogy have the 9bb with a full 0.90 cells. My absolute best find WHILE THEY LAST is the Rich Solar 5 full buss amzn.to/3vJg1mA and I am buying as many as I can while they are available, soon they will be screwed too. They have the 1.12mm thick ergocrystal mono cells, Best known as Taiwan made Q-Cells. I am trying like crazy to get 50 of them ASAP. They already stopped selling singles, won't be long then all you have is the new junk. I would rather a micro crack in a cell happen and loose 2% over a total hazing the thin ones have and loose 70%.
@@JOHNDANIEL1 I was researching them because that is what you had put on the SHTF list on Amazon. I got on their site and they showed the 10bb cells now. I'm glad that you got back to me before I pushed the button on them. So HQST are crap now ???
@@JOHNDANIEL1Is that linked through you yet? If so I am about to order some.
Sad to say, HQST drank the Koolaid. But the Rich Solar are made by BluSun, Same maker as the older HQST but with even better cables and junction box.
Glad you asked, I just put it in the shared in my amazon and it shows good for 1.8% so now it is.
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rinky dinky, i use real copper bus.