I'm a 25 minute parkrunner. Mizuno had a "try it" day at one of our runs. I thought the shoe was fantastic, even at paces of 5 to 6 minutes per km. The shoe is great for slower runners. Don't be put off by the thought of it only suiting 2:30 marathoners.
@@QronoZ713 Yes. Look at the video of the Elite at the end of the Marathon. Mostly heel strike.. and so is 80 percent of the rest even at the start. The only time I don't heel strike is if I run barefoot.
'The aim of this study was to analyze footstrike patterns in elite marathon runners at the 2017 IAAF World Championships. Seventy-one men and 78 women were analyzed in their respective races .Most marathon runners at the 2017 IAAF World Championships were rearfoot strikers, and most did not change footstrike pattern'
I run 1:50min half marathons (nowhere near elite) and this shoe feels perfect for me. It protects the legs and gives incredible energy feedback. The only thing it's bad for is walking ;)
I know this is contrary.. I am a heel striker and slow runner.. (senior..) but I just love the Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro V1. Like you I have it in the Black/White.. I run at around 6 min per km long 20k runs in them and they are the most comfortable and protective shoe I have. Legs fresh the next day. The bounce and rocker are very energy saving.. I was afraid it will be a disaster like my Alphafly V1 because of the heel striker but there is NO heel so no problem. I land midfoot 🤔. I saw the developer of the line and he said that the new Wave Rebellion Flash has the geometry of the Wave Rebellion Pro V1.. So I guess I will try that one once it's out..
I know you have a great knowledge about shoes 🙂. And no one knows better than you. what works for you 👍 Personally, I also think version 1 can be used in the way you use it. I just think it's important that when judging a shoe that you are honest about how fast you can run. Because it's just not fair if you judge a shoe based on the wrong assumptions. And most of us are not able to utilize these carbon shoes properly. therefore I think this video is excellent 👍💪. Ben is able to utilize the full potential of the shoe. Which ultimately gives the most accurate review of them
Get the new WRP2. I tried both WRP1 and WRP2 on foot on different Mizuno events in Austin in 2023. WRP2 demoed in December 2023 during The Running Event in Austin, TX. The WR Flash 2 is nowhere near bouncy. I tried it on foot, but I only run in WRP1 and WRP2. WRP2 felt great as a mid-packer shoe. Forget about Mizuno marketing that is trying to position this shoe as an elitist shoe. It is far more democratic shoe. The only downside is that you will need even stronger calves as drop is less than v1.
I only started my running in version 1 (I ordered V2 as well) and despite being a heavy runner who is nowhere near 2:30 marathon pace, I find these shoes amazing. They seem to allow me to run more effortless than any other super (or not super) shoe out there, and I had few PBs in them, without trying. I am definitely curious to see what I can do in them in marathon.
Great video! If this shoe isn’t for the masses, what racing shoes would you say are the best for marathon distance for the masses (e.g. 4 hour marathon)?
@@QronoZ713 thanks! Pro 3 is definitely on my list to consider. Also the upcoming NB elite V4. If I don’t like the NB, will probably snag the Pro 3 on discount when the Pro 4 drops
I got my Marathon PB in the rebellion pro last November in New York, looking forward to trying the new flash (which will likely suit me and based on the same tech)
going to run my first half marathon this spring, going for 1:45. I need a new pair of running shoes. any tips for looking at running shoes or suggestions?
Not an elite runner by any stretch but i got a 20 min Marathon PB in the first version. Maybe they aren't supposed to be for "slow" runners but i love my pair.
Are they good over the marathon distance I ran a 1:21 HM in the pro 1s and I've bought the pro 2s for the marathon and people saying they're only for elite runners are concerning
Yo ben! The Orginal really off loads my calfs! Even more then prime x.. cooks my hammies tho! Holds my 3kR 10k and half marathon pb tho🎉 cant wait for the 2! Thanks for the review! Happy xmas❤
I ran in demo shoes during a Mizuno event in Austin, TX in December 2023. I am not an elite runner. I consider myself mid-pack runner in my age group. That said, I don't agree with the Mizuno marketing. This shoe (Wave Rebellion Pro 2) is quite democratic, and I felt I was getting quite efficient ride vs many of other carbon plated shoes. Personally, I got Alphafly 1 style bounce and efficiency. So, discard the marketing and get this shoe (WRP2). One thing that is not discussed: The heel counter is gone from v1 to v2. There was a bit of heel slip for me which could be fixed by runners' loop lacing. Also I got tight calves after running in these shoes. The drop is even less in this shoe vs v1. So, just like zero drop shoes the calf muscles are working hard so this shoe will require strong calves for longer mile usage.
Ive never ran a marathon before ive ran a HM in the pro 1s in 1:21, ive my first marathon in april and ive picked up the pro 2s and did 7 miles yesterday and they are fast! 6:20 miles. Would you say to give them a go or try something else?
Super good video 👍💪😀. Really nice to have a RUclipsr who is not a turtle like many of us 🫣 And who are able to test the shoes for which they are built. And let's be honest, almost all carbon shoes are built to run fast. And not to run a marathon of 3 - 4 hours. Put another way, the dream of all supershoes is to get under two hours. And without me being anywhere near your level. So my experience is that the shoes change quite a bit depending on the speed. The faster you are able to run, the more you get out of a pair of carbon shoes.
I’m a mass runner and I really like running in those shoes. I did 3 runs around 6km in slow pace (around 6’/km) and I really loved the ride. I’m an heavy runner compared to you but I found those shoes extraordinary. I will push the pace with for sure for speedy intervals. I preferred them to the Prime X Strung of Adidas (which were my favorites for recovery runs) even at slow paces cause it in line with my stride.
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I'm a 25 minute parkrunner. Mizuno had a "try it" day at one of our runs. I thought the shoe was fantastic, even at paces of 5 to 6 minutes per km. The shoe is great for slower runners. Don't be put off by the thought of it only suiting 2:30 marathoners.
would love to try this shoe. to me the shape makes sense. Why so much padding on the heel of most shoes when a lot of runners don't even land there.
70-90% of runners heel strike, including elites.
Even better. I am a heel striker and slow runner but the Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro is amazing for me. No heel.. No problem..
@@QronoZ713 Yes. Look at the video of the Elite at the end of the Marathon. Mostly heel strike.. and so is 80 percent of the rest even at the start. The only time I don't heel strike is if I run barefoot.
@@QronoZ713 i have seen 1 elite heel striking in my entire life. Can you provide some examples
'The aim of this study was to analyze footstrike patterns in elite marathon runners at the 2017 IAAF World Championships. Seventy-one men and 78 women were analyzed in their respective races .Most marathon runners at the 2017 IAAF World Championships were rearfoot strikers, and most did not change footstrike pattern'
I run 1:50min half marathons (nowhere near elite) and this shoe feels perfect for me. It protects the legs and gives incredible energy feedback. The only thing it's bad for is walking ;)
EXACTLY. I take it on long runs when I don't care about the time just to enjoy the ride..
That's the importance of rotating shoes before and after the race
Another 'bad' thing apart from walking is the price range. I paid AUD 360.00 for mine.
Same here
I know this is contrary.. I am a heel striker and slow runner.. (senior..) but I just love the Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro V1. Like you I have it in the Black/White.. I run at around 6 min per km long 20k runs in them and they are the most comfortable and protective shoe I have. Legs fresh the next day. The bounce and rocker are very energy saving.. I was afraid it will be a disaster like my Alphafly V1 because of the heel striker but there is NO heel so no problem. I land midfoot 🤔. I saw the developer of the line and he said that the new Wave Rebellion Flash has the geometry of the Wave Rebellion Pro V1.. So I guess I will try that one once it's out..
I know you have a great knowledge about shoes 🙂. And no one knows better than you. what works for you 👍 Personally, I also think version 1 can be used in the way you use it. I just think it's important that when judging a shoe that you are honest about how fast you can run. Because it's just not fair if you judge a shoe based on the wrong assumptions. And most of us are not able to utilize these carbon shoes properly. therefore I think this video is excellent 👍💪. Ben is able to utilize the full potential of the shoe. Which ultimately gives the most accurate review of them
Get the new WRP2. I tried both WRP1 and WRP2 on foot on different Mizuno events in Austin in 2023. WRP2 demoed in December 2023 during The Running Event in Austin, TX. The WR Flash 2 is nowhere near bouncy. I tried it on foot, but I only run in WRP1 and WRP2. WRP2 felt great as a mid-packer shoe. Forget about Mizuno marketing that is trying to position this shoe as an elitist shoe. It is far more democratic shoe. The only downside is that you will need even stronger calves as drop is less than v1.
I only started my running in version 1 (I ordered V2 as well) and despite being a heavy runner who is nowhere near 2:30 marathon pace, I find these shoes amazing. They seem to allow me to run more effortless than any other super (or not super) shoe out there, and I had few PBs in them, without trying.
I am definitely curious to see what I can do in them in marathon.
I'm gonna miss Vlogmas! This has been so fun & cool to see you post every day!
Great channel Ben keep up good work
Been wanting to try the Mizunos for a while now, 2024 could be the year
Thank you for this review, am more convinced to get this shoe once I visit Japan next week as it’s much cheaper there
Love the first version, can’t wait to try this one! Thanks for the review!
great video as always Ben!! Sad vlogmas is nearly over but merry christmas!!
Great video! If this shoe isn’t for the masses, what racing shoes would you say are the best for marathon distance for the masses (e.g. 4 hour marathon)?
Endorphin Pro/Speed IMO
@@QronoZ713 thanks! Pro 3 is definitely on my list to consider. Also the upcoming NB elite V4. If I don’t like the NB, will probably snag the Pro 3 on discount when the Pro 4 drops
gonna miss the daily videos, become part of my daily routine. Thanks ben
I got my Marathon PB in the rebellion pro last November in New York, looking forward to trying the new flash (which will likely suit me and based on the same tech)
going to run my first half marathon this spring, going for 1:45. I need a new pair of running shoes. any tips for looking at running shoes or suggestions?
Mizuno is like the GTR of the automotive world😂
I hope one day I can meet up with Ben and do a run together
Is the drop difference between the two models noticable? From 5mm to 1.5mm is a big change.. thanks
Best videos were the day in a life vlogs
Not an elite runner by any stretch but i got a 20 min Marathon PB in the first version. Maybe they aren't supposed to be for "slow" runners but i love my pair.
Are they good over the marathon distance I ran a 1:21 HM in the pro 1s and I've bought the pro 2s for the marathon and people saying they're only for elite runners are concerning
@@markhill8590 - What is your foot strike, heel, mid or Forefoot?
@@edrios3668 forefoot, don't buy these shoes if you're not.....extremely unstable
Great review!
Yo ben! The Orginal really off loads my calfs! Even more then prime x.. cooks my hammies tho! Holds my 3kR 10k and half marathon pb tho🎉 cant wait for the 2! Thanks for the review! Happy xmas❤
The sole tech has gone totally Massai...
It's like being back in the plateaus of the 70's.
Bonkers!
Could you do a fast 10K and Half Marathon in these also?
It's a shoe. You can do anything you want. I use V1 for easy long runs.. Still not arrested by Mizuno Police 😂
@@i.p2088😂😂😂
I ran in demo shoes during a Mizuno event in Austin, TX in December 2023. I am not an elite runner. I consider myself mid-pack runner in my age group. That said, I don't agree with the Mizuno marketing. This shoe (Wave Rebellion Pro 2) is quite democratic, and I felt I was getting quite efficient ride vs many of other carbon plated shoes. Personally, I got Alphafly 1 style bounce and efficiency. So, discard the marketing and get this shoe (WRP2).
One thing that is not discussed: The heel counter is gone from v1 to v2. There was a bit of heel slip for me which could be fixed by runners' loop lacing. Also I got tight calves after running in these shoes. The drop is even less in this shoe vs v1. So, just like zero drop shoes the calf muscles are working hard so this shoe will require strong calves for longer mile usage.
Ive never ran a marathon before ive ran a HM in the pro 1s in 1:21, ive my first marathon in april and ive picked up the pro 2s and did 7 miles yesterday and they are fast! 6:20 miles. Would you say to give them a go or try something else?
Would these be useful for track workouts (mile and 800m work)??
I personally would prefer something a little lower stack on the track for the corners but road intervals are great in them
I just hope mizuno can make this also for wide feet
Super good video 👍💪😀. Really nice to have a RUclipsr who is not a turtle like many of us 🫣 And who are able to test the shoes for which they are built. And let's be honest, almost all carbon shoes are built to run fast. And not to run a marathon of 3 - 4 hours. Put another way, the dream of all supershoes is to get under two hours. And without me being anywhere near your level. So my experience is that the shoes change quite a bit depending on the speed. The faster you are able to run, the more you get out of a pair of carbon shoes.
Is it true to size.
How is the sizing? I had to go up half a size in the first iteration.
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This is between Strung X1 and Alphafly 3
Absolutely destroys the toes on my right foot which is a real shame as I loved the shoe, had to sell them after 50 miles
Are you referring to the pro 2 or the original. These aren’t currently available but maybe you’ve got your hands on a pair from the inside :)
@@BenIsRunning no, the original, I’m not an insider who gets things early like you 😂😂
Yay
I’m a mass runner and I really like running in those shoes. I did 3 runs around 6km in slow pace (around 6’/km) and I really loved the ride. I’m an heavy runner compared to you but I found those shoes extraordinary. I will push the pace with for sure for speedy intervals. I preferred them to the Prime X Strung of Adidas (which were my favorites for recovery runs) even at slow paces cause it in line with my stride.
Was the shoe true to size
@@Taylormademan900 I took a 45 and my normal size is 44. It’s ok 👍
It is great to see another company taking it to nike in the innovation stakes is it not ?
I guess puma have tried too
Would you use again for a marathon?
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I don’t love the feel of shoes without a proper heel so this probably isn’t for me
shoes are truly out of control now... both in design and price.
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