@@Striker_VII I think there’s a world where they can live in harmony, others definitely don’t tho lol. Although I don’t believe in the narrative either that gaming will bring everyone into using crypto / nfts
@@Striker_VII agreed. The extremes of either side is usually very skewed. Anyways, good to see you around as always Striker! How are things going for you?
Why would people be mad? If the game is fun then play. The fact that it utilizes blockchain tech and NFTs is a plus. Now if you want to sell your items and buy something else you can do that. I don't want this attachment... Sure let's sell that and buy a skin! Sounds great to me. There are "bad actors" in all industries and unfortunately NFTs have got a bad name because horrible people sell a picture on a promise it will be worth more in the future. This is not that. This is a free-to-play game... Enjoy it!
@@BonesBNFT people would be mad if they have the perspective that there’s something inherently wrong with using blockchain technology at all. There’s plenty of those people out there. I think their argument would be up could do all of that selling and such on a centralized database and that blockchain isn’t a good solution. That’s why I think this will be interesting to watch. If this game gains more and more traction, how much of this will be a controversy or will it just be a non factor for the majority of people.
@Luke_Jech I like the mechanics,movement can be improved it's clunky at times more weapons can be added and more hexes with unique gear but overall it's fun I never was a pvp player because my skill level was never up there but with this game I get kills.
I think part of why the majority doesnt know/care, is because these creators (from what I have watched) dont talk about the crypto side of it. They just go "BEST NEW BR OF 2024?!?!?!" and keep it moving. I think one of those comments made a good point, which is also a point I have made to others. We have yet to see a crypto game make it to a post launch state. To be fair to the Off The Grid devs, this is the first crypto game to gain THIS much traction. But that doesnt mean anything if they cant follow through. Theres just so much to be on the fence about, currently. From hacking to take advantage of the market, to potential breaches, or the company shutting down, making players lose all of their earnings.
@@Milty_The_Great good take! Similar to my thoughts. It’s an interesting attempt to make a crypto game go mainstream, but it still has much left to prove, both to see if the game is successful or the web3 side of it. Have you been watching their streams or trying the game?
@@Luke_Jech yeah I've put a few hours in. I don't like making assumptions or anything simply from watching a game. A hands on experience is always best when forming an opinion. Game still needs a lot of love, but it does have good bones. So hopefully they can meet the potential they've shown.
@Luke_Jech 100% it changes especially if you can turn it into real money. That will bring hakers no doubt no matter the anti cheat. Now if it was all in game that emulated real world market, that would be a different thing. Would be more educational with no real incentives to have to cheat although there are rats in every game regardless.
@@Crimsonblod334 yeah money does change the incentives for sure. What do you mean by real world market? What would they have to do to make it one in your opinion?
I don't think gamers care at all about this in all honesty, at least not the average gamer. Sure there might be one or two who don't like the idea. I didn't even know the game had such a thing but I would imagine anyone being pretty exited of the idea that there is a change to "make money". Counter strike skin trading is huge and people actually enjoy to buy and sell different skins and maybe make some money out of it. Of course, cs skins aren't precisely nft's but I would put them in a similar category
Yeah I agree, I think there are certain parts of the internet that really do care, either loving or hating crypto/nfts. I still talk to lot's of people that just don't really have an opinion or know at all about it. Are you playing off the grid now?
@@terryq8769 oh gotcha, yeah I haven't heard of any subscription to play so it must just be some sort of battle pass or premium stuff. Weird that they wouldn't make that clear though
I don't think you have to be mad, there's just a section of gamers, developers, etc. who are mad about it. I'd say the top reasons I see from the side of the argument are... 1. Assets being on blockchain means there is no central authority to help with customer protection. If you get scammed or send your assets to the wrong address, it's just gone forever. Scams are prevalent and I've seen people lose thousands of dollars making one mistake. 2. Lots of these games have just been straight up scams or asset flips so people are scared to trust any game related to this tech now. 3. The messaging around owning your assets can be misleading for NFTs. NFTs are simply a snippet of code with metadata for your asset. The way it's used in a game is still entirely up to the developers and can be changed by them at any time. 4. Some people are just generally against crypto. 5. Some people see earning in a game ruining the fun of the game. Or they see it as manipulating or exploiting people in poverty to try to "play to earn" 6. Blockchain technology doesn't really accomplish anything that a centralized database can and it's less efficient. Those are the top reasons I see from people in the camp that NFTs and crypto should never be in video games.
@@Luke_Jech they only care about views an the way they talk to people I'm general. Just like when shit on doc came out Tim dropped being friends with him an now that it's died down right back to buds. I get having to save face but come on
@@timothyjacobs4279 yeah that's fair. I mean to me in general it's dangerous to look up to any famous person as a role model. All we really see is 5% of who they are.
@@Derrickchauvinsknee yeah I mean the true test is to see if any of them continue playing after their partnership ends. My guess is probably not unless a ton of their audience continues to play and ask for it. Without an audience they’re going to get way more money playing what they normally do.
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Doc blowing them all out of the water with his viewer count 😂
Every time. He's a great entertainer.
Yep the best
Was surprised to see that there was such a war between the streamers. People really care that much about it eh?
If the game is fun that’s all that matters. If your into crypto then it’s a win. If you’re not into crypto it’s still a blast to play. Win / Win
@@Striker_VII I think there’s a world where they can live in harmony, others definitely don’t tho lol. Although I don’t believe in the narrative either that gaming will bring everyone into using crypto / nfts
As with most things the answers is some where in the middle
@@Striker_VII agreed. The extremes of either side is usually very skewed.
Anyways, good to see you around as always Striker! How are things going for you?
Why would people be mad? If the game is fun then play. The fact that it utilizes blockchain tech and NFTs is a plus. Now if you want to sell your items and buy something else you can do that. I don't want this attachment... Sure let's sell that and buy a skin! Sounds great to me. There are "bad actors" in all industries and unfortunately NFTs have got a bad name because horrible people sell a picture on a promise it will be worth more in the future. This is not that. This is a free-to-play game... Enjoy it!
@@BonesBNFT people would be mad if they have the perspective that there’s something inherently wrong with using blockchain technology at all. There’s plenty of those people out there. I think their argument would be up could do all of that selling and such on a centralized database and that blockchain isn’t a good solution.
That’s why I think this will be interesting to watch. If this game gains more and more traction, how much of this will be a controversy or will it just be a non factor for the majority of people.
This game is awesome I'm hooked I don't even get mad when my team don't win I just hop back in
Nice! What are you liking about the game so far?
@Luke_Jech I like the mechanics,movement can be improved it's clunky at times more weapons can be added and more hexes with unique gear but overall it's fun I never was a pvp player because my skill level was never up there but with this game I get kills.
@@Knowledge-Katalyst awesome! Yeah I’m not very good at BR games either, to be fair I don’t practice them either so maybe I should start there haha.
Dr disrespect had 500k viewers... you gotta be shitting me
that was views on the vod not when he was live
@@justinmarshall4803 yeah good clarification. 500K views on a stream for YT is definitely not 500K while live
no dark mode is insane
I am a mad man
I think part of why the majority doesnt know/care, is because these creators (from what I have watched) dont talk about the crypto side of it. They just go "BEST NEW BR OF 2024?!?!?!" and keep it moving. I think one of those comments made a good point, which is also a point I have made to others. We have yet to see a crypto game make it to a post launch state.
To be fair to the Off The Grid devs, this is the first crypto game to gain THIS much traction. But that doesnt mean anything if they cant follow through. Theres just so much to be on the fence about, currently. From hacking to take advantage of the market, to potential breaches, or the company shutting down, making players lose all of their earnings.
@@Milty_The_Great good take! Similar to my thoughts. It’s an interesting attempt to make a crypto game go mainstream, but it still has much left to prove, both to see if the game is successful or the web3 side of it.
Have you been watching their streams or trying the game?
@@Luke_Jech yeah I've put a few hours in. I don't like making assumptions or anything simply from watching a game. A hands on experience is always best when forming an opinion.
Game still needs a lot of love, but it does have good bones. So hopefully they can meet the potential they've shown.
@@Milty_The_Great nice. What would you say needs to be improved the most?
I didnt even know it was a crypto/nft were even involved with the game
Yeah I don't think most people will, it's all in the background really. Does it change your opinion of the game though now that you do know?
@Luke_Jech 100% it changes especially if you can turn it into real money. That will bring hakers no doubt no matter the anti cheat. Now if it was all in game that emulated real world market, that would be a different thing. Would be more educational with no real incentives to have to cheat although there are rats in every game regardless.
@@Crimsonblod334 yeah money does change the incentives for sure. What do you mean by real world market? What would they have to do to make it one in your opinion?
I don't think gamers care at all about this in all honesty, at least not the average gamer. Sure there might be one or two who don't like the idea. I didn't even know the game had such a thing but I would imagine anyone being pretty exited of the idea that there is a change to "make money". Counter strike skin trading is huge and people actually enjoy to buy and sell different skins and maybe make some money out of it. Of course, cs skins aren't precisely nft's but I would put them in a similar category
Yeah I agree, I think there are certain parts of the internet that really do care, either loving or hating crypto/nfts. I still talk to lot's of people that just don't really have an opinion or know at all about it.
Are you playing off the grid now?
If you like cs go, this system is pretty simlar cause you can sell items
Yeah seems similar besides the tech underneath. Also the earning of crypto will be different.
I uninstalled it, it said play for 3 days free then £9.99 per month
The game is entirely free to play. However, there is an OTG Pro option that gives you monthly cosmetics and rewards.
For Off The Grid? I haven't heard of that. Was it for a battle pass or something?
@@Luke_Jech I have no idea, It said it on the welcome screen at the bottom after I came out of training I just saw the cost and deleted it.
@@terryq8769 oh gotcha, yeah I haven't heard of any subscription to play so it must just be some sort of battle pass or premium stuff. Weird that they wouldn't make that clear though
Can you explain why we're all supposed to be mad about this blockchain tech being used in a game? Are there victims I'm not seeing?
I don't think you have to be mad, there's just a section of gamers, developers, etc. who are mad about it. I'd say the top reasons I see from the side of the argument are...
1. Assets being on blockchain means there is no central authority to help with customer protection. If you get scammed or send your assets to the wrong address, it's just gone forever. Scams are prevalent and I've seen people lose thousands of dollars making one mistake.
2. Lots of these games have just been straight up scams or asset flips so people are scared to trust any game related to this tech now.
3. The messaging around owning your assets can be misleading for NFTs. NFTs are simply a snippet of code with metadata for your asset. The way it's used in a game is still entirely up to the developers and can be changed by them at any time.
4. Some people are just generally against crypto.
5. Some people see earning in a game ruining the fun of the game. Or they see it as manipulating or exploiting people in poverty to try to "play to earn"
6. Blockchain technology doesn't really accomplish anything that a centralized database can and it's less efficient.
Those are the top reasons I see from people in the camp that NFTs and crypto should never be in video games.
calling this a crypto game is just shitpost clickbait to be honest, sad that smaller channels have to do shit like this to get views on their channel
Yeah sad that smaller channels have to do this and the biggest channels can get away with whatever they want to.
Tim doc ninja or nadeshot are not good people so this doesn't surprise me
Why are they not good people? I don't really follow them at all besides some of the doc allegations.
@@Luke_Jech they only care about views an the way they talk to people I'm general. Just like when shit on doc came out Tim dropped being friends with him an now that it's died down right back to buds. I get having to save face but come on
@@timothyjacobs4279 yeah that's fair. I mean to me in general it's dangerous to look up to any famous person as a role model. All we really see is 5% of who they are.
@@Luke_Jech I agree 100%
Dr diareoect streams it but only cause its new. Once olit hits a certain age he will lose interest
@@Derrickchauvinsknee yeah I mean the true test is to see if any of them continue playing after their partnership ends. My guess is probably not unless a ton of their audience continues to play and ask for it. Without an audience they’re going to get way more money playing what they normally do.
@@Luke_Jech I was referencing docs love for kids smh
@@Derrickchauvinsknee yikessss. I thought you just meant when “it” hits an age like as in the game
@@Luke_Jech nah I was addressing dr creep
Fud
@@DeFiMoney-Printer free underwear disposal?
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So? 😂
IDK, so? 🤷♂