And maybe even other paleo documentaries like when dinosaurs roamed america dinosaur planet planet dinosaur dinosaur revolution bizare dinosaurs giants of Patagonia and maybe even prehistoric planet
Walking With Dinosaurs becoming dated is a good thing in that it means that our understanding of paleontology has progressed so far in the past 24 years. Imagine what we'll find out in the next 24.
Personally, that's why it bugs me when _Planet Dinosaur_ whips out the scientific evidence every other second - aside from the more obvious problem of pausing the action to prattle on about stuff that no-one cares about besides the hardcore paleo nerds, it dates the show by presenting it as "THIS is the up-to-date info on how we CURRENTLY think these dinosaurs were like!" It has similar energy to when shows, movies, games etc. put the word "new" in the title, such as _New Super Mario Bros._ or _The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh,_ to name examples.
I'm so glad this series is back. This episode is one of my favorites. I love how much it got right. As well as it's depiction of just how different it was inside the Antarctic Circle back then. I love the inclusion of Koolasuchus, (prehistoric amphibians do not get enough attention,) and Muttaburrasauras is one of my favorite dinosaurs ever. I can't wait for the finale.
@@BenGThomas have to say this is my personal favourite episode from the show it just shows a part of time that really isnt highlighted in regular media when thinking about dinosaurs especially with things like koolasuchus we just dont get amphibians that large anymore
I’ve been so eagerly waiting for you to get back to reviewing this series! Thank you for getting back to it, this is one of my favorite Walking with episodes!
This episode was always my favorite as a kid. Maybe I was biased because this one had Koolasuchus in it, but looking back, it still holds that title thanks to its atmosphere, uniqueness, music, and storytelling. I love this episode for shedding some light on the more obscure cold-weather dinosaurs.
This episode was shot in New Zealand! As a New Zealander, I was lucky to visit this spot when I was quite young. I remember they had a couple of old steam trains that you could take a trip on through this particular forest. Very cold and damp, but absolutely magical:)
Holy crap I can’t believe the first video in this series was 4 years ago. I thought it was just 2 time flies. I’m glad you’re still continuing it I love these videos
By the time they're done with all of them, enough time will have passed since the first one to start "The Scientific Accuracy of 'The scientific accuracy of Walking With Dinosaurs'"
I would also like to point out that the “Polar Allosaur” in this episode should not be referred to as definitely being Australovenator and be labelled as an unnamed theropod, even if it’s called an unnamed Megaraptorid. The reason is because Australovenator is only known from an incomplete skeleton found in the Winton Formation of Queensland, which is thought to date from anywhere between 100-94mya. Stating that Australovenator lived in Victoria or Antarctica at around 106mya would make it a time traveller and a migrator. While there is some evidence of theropod dinosaurs assigned to the Megaraptorsn clade found in Australia, none of them show enough detail to be confidently placed as Australovenator itself. I see a lot of people on the internet calling the “Polar Allosaur” as Australovenator without actually looking into the evidence the scientists have already explained. I even met an Australian Paleontologist during his presentation on Paleontology and he stated that the theropod leg bone can’t be described as an Australovenator without further evidence.
The ankle bone that is the basis of the "Polar Allosaur" can't even be properly labelled as an unnamed Megaraptorid because it's realistically impossible to say for sure it didn't come from some other kind of theropod. It's been identified as both Coelurosaur and Abelisaurid in origin at different points. The theropod fossil record in Australia so terrible we will probably never know for sure anyway.
The "polar allosaur" ankle bone stems from the Wonthaggi Formation (same as Koolasuchus), which means it is (at least) 120 million years old, while Australovenator and most of the Winton fauna stem from upper Cenomanian strata, making them about 25 million years younger. The age difference is comparable to the age difference between T. rex and Suskityrannus. Pre-2013, it was thought that the Winton Formation represented the late Albian, but even then, the paper that suggested that the ankle bone could be classified as "Australovenator sp." acknowledged that there was at least a 10-million-year age gap between it and the Winton fossils, showing that this was always blatant wastebin taxonomy, so this cheap retcon by BBC became outdated itself XD
Did they not just blatantly call this mysterious mini-carnosaur a 'Polar Allosaur' because they wanted to believe Allosaurus got into the Early Cretaceous (no more evidence he did than with Ceratosaurus, Stegosaurus, Aaptosaurus etc.), and they wanted to keep it recognisable. It's sad to do this, don't cover that area if you don't have a preadator for it.
@@kyachdistent1301 No, it was legitimately identified as an allosaur and even a species of Allosaurus by paleontologists in Australia back in the 80s. This obviously was not a well-informed stance, but such was the thinking in 20th-century paleontology, that you could properly identify an animal based on the most scrappy of fossils, and we knew much, much less about theropod biodiversity back in the 80s-90s. WWD was actually being cognizant by just calling it an allosaur.
I’m glad that this series has finally returned. Walking With Dinosaurs was such an amazing series, and it’s fascinating to see how much our understanding of dinosaurs has changed since it first aired.
@@greyideasthetheliopurodon4640 not really. The only ornithischian to have evidence of feathers on top of its tail specifically is Psittacosaurus. Others like Tianyulong preserve fuzz all over their bodies. Kulindadromeus is feathered everywhere except for the tail. There was a lot of variety between each of them, so it's entirely possible Leaellynasaura had a bushy tail.
The filaments of tianyulong may also be a lot longer than previously thought based on a un-described specimen from china. You can find photos of it on the internet.@@LucasCaminha
Finally! I'm so happy you didn't abandon this series. Prehistoric Park and Walking with are definitely what got me into paleontology. BTW absolutely love the track "Antarctic spring" from this episode
Our understanding of dinosaurs and their environments is always going to evolve but I am amazed at how well this *_24 year old_* series holds up. BTW by a peculiar coincidence I just re-watched this series a few days ago!
Spirits of the Ice Forest was always my favourite episode, I was gutted that you never got around to making this back when you were originally doing the series, so this is one hell of a Christmas gift
The music in this episode was awe inspiring 🙌 That long tail does sound interesting, most cold weather animals tend to have shorter stubbier appendages to preserve warmth
24 years and it still has my favourite title of an episode of anything, ever. It tells you exactly what you're getting into while also denoting there's something mystical and ethereal about the setting
So excited that this series is back with a 40-minute dissection of Spirits of the Ice Forest! I know it's the least popular of the six original episodes, but it was always my favorite growing up, and Laellynasaura was one of my favorite dinosaurs.
One touch I liked was how many of the animals depicted seemed to have their eyes partially closed. This makes sense considering that the dark months had just ended and they probably weren't used to the light yet. I like when they add little details like that.
Nice to see you revisiting it! ;) However, you forgot to mention that small ornithopods like Leaellynasaura had "angrier"-looking eyes than depicted here.
This episode was always my favorite because of the Muttaburrasaurus, but also because of the hauntingly beautiful music. It's wonderful, and it is the one that I've focused on arranging
I'm so excited for this video! I'd also love to see the beginning of a Walking with Beasts series as well to give some love to prehistoric mammals that are often overshadowed by Dinosaurs
I love this episode - neoorthischians are featured/focused on too little in dinosaur media, even in media targeted at kids, and Leaellynasaura with its tight group structure is especially relatable and awe-inspiring.
Just rewatched this all on iPlayer. Probably not adding any sentiment that you haven’t addressed yourself but - one thing that makes walking with dinosaurs rewatchable? Not just for nostalgia (I’m 23 and first watched it when I was about 3 years old), but the fact it takes risks. Some of the behaviours are speculative as mentioned in this brilliant series a few times, but I love how it’s just presented as a nature doc. They strung a narrative together with each of the animals and just put you in that place rather than showing you fossils etc. I love modern documentaries that include references to research etc, but it is so nice to just sit and watch it as if the dinosaurs are doing their thing and are the complete focus. The concessions we allow for the things we love eh 😂 love this series amazing to watch after just watching the original series recently!
Thanks to this video I found out that the version of Walking with Dinosaurs I'd been watching since I was a kid was an abridged version. Mine completely cut out all the scenes including the Koolasuchus, Steropodon, or the Tuatara, and I've gone my whole life never seeing them despite watching the show hundreds of times. No doubt the other episodes have cut lots of things too
This was the series that got me into this channel and I've been waiting two years for a continuation of this I'm so gonna enjoy watch through this entire episode minute by minute
Thank you for taking the time to make sure your captions reflect what you actually say, and not the garbled guesswork the transcription program usually puts out. This is a wonderful series, it’s so good to see another installment.
I'm a man of simple tastes. I see a title with "Walking With Dinosaurs," I click. This series is a core childhood memory. The facts may not have aged well, but the painstaking effort behind the cinematography and animation still makes it the best dinosaur documentary ever made even 24 years later.
The walking with series really needs a reboot. It's a series I never denigrate for it's inaccuracy.....because they didn't seem to do so with any form of negativity in mind. They were just trying to flesh out what it could have possibly have been in the era they were trying to portray. I absolutely understand that. It is fantastical, it's not impossible. Hell, if I were to do a documentary on the creek near where I live, it would be boring as hell. This year, apparently a beaver has arrived. Over the last ten years, black bears, a grizzly and deer in galore. The bears are rare as hell, a racoon was spotted once. If I were to edit the footage that I do not have, it would be condensed to have all of them.
In a very real sense the out of date nature of walking with dinosaurs is a high complement to the series. It was so good and so interesting that many many young people became fascinated by the beasts and began to study them. I teach geology at a university level and the number of people willing to put up with the hard work of paleontology has increased significantly and even amongst those unwilling to put in the hours the increased interest has put a new life into the field. I wonder how much of the corrections you give us (and I enjoy them) were found by people inspired by Walking with Dinosaurs? My area of interest might not have any dinosaurs but I do keep up, and there is a world of good stuff out there for us who just enjoy the learning.
Muttaburrasaurus is cool and all, but don't forget the absolutely EPIC soundtrack for their departure! It felt like the end of an era seeing them walk away with such an epic track in the background
This episode has my favorite music in the whole documentary. Spirits of the Ice Forest is so beautiful and mystical, Sleeping Lyeaellynasaura is very tranquil and ambient, and as you mentioned Departure of the Muttaburrasaurus is very haunting and melancholic. The music still makes my eyes teary to this day
I started out thinking that maybe inaccuracies were because of knowledge gaps of the age, but nope. Right away the geography and chronology were wrong.
At 27:15 there is the proposal that the morphology of the hind feet show that they were used in hunting. I would like to point out that in cats, pray is almost always caught with the front paws. But if a fight breaks out, those hind claws can eviscerate an opponent.
The nostalgia from watching this as 12 year old kid feels so good. I loved the „Walking with …“ shows and I watched all of them, at least this ones which were available in German TV. I still have the related books. Thank you so much for showing in detail the accuracies and inaccuracies of this fantastic show ❤
I'm pretty sure the very pronounced cheeks on the Leaellynasaura is just because of how they modeled the 'puppet'. When you rewatch any of the Predator films after the first one, you'll notice that the Predator's cheeks will also jut out like this whenever their 'mouths' are closed. This is purely because the modelers created the masks or puppets with material that wont keep the cheeks properly in place *or* the cast was shaped with their mouths open in mind and the material doesn't form properly to a closed mouth
33:42 theres actually a meta reason as to why they couldnt have a platypus re-enact this, Platypodes are endangered and its VERY hard to get your hands on them even for a zoo. It was this year that the first platypus was put in a zoo outside of australia.
Hey, you released the new epusode after I finished the final draft of my dinosaur novel! Speaking of, Spirits of the Ice Forests sounds like a great fantasy book title, huh?
@@fermintenava5911the German titles of Walking with Dinosaurs episodes are all great. I especially like the German name of the final episode: “Untergang einer Dynastie” (Downfall of a Dynasty). Plus, Austrian actor Otto Clemens has the best narrator voice.
I watched this episode over and over as a kid! I was fascinated by the way the Lealynasaura were depicted as a clan and having family groups. The decoy nests reminded me of turkey behavior.
I'm have been waiting for you to review this episode. It's my personal favourite as unlike the rest of the other episodes where most of the settings have previously been done, this episode was set in a unique location that I don't think has been before or since.
Finally the series returns! I love WWD and your reviews & discussions of them is how I got to your channel. I hope you can get to review the other episodes and specials in the future.
Since you’re back at it, you need to remember that the dromaeosaur in episode 6 was never referred to as “Dromaeosaurus” in the episode. It’s a generic dromaeosaurid. That and it’s the just a recycled Utahraptor model from episode 4. Also, the unnamed 1 ton crocs (referred to as Deinosuchus in other media), is more than likely based on Thoracosaurus, the large Gavialoid from Hell Creek and associated formations.
It is referred to as Dromaeosaurus in the tie-in book Walking with Dinosaurs The Evidence, and at the time, dromaeosaur teeth from Hell Creek were lumped into this genus. And both The Evidence, along with Walking with Dinosaurs A Natural History and the 2005's The Complete Guide To Prehistoric Life all identify the croc from "Death of a Dynasty" as Deinosuchus. A poorly reconstructed and anachronistic depiction maybe, but still meant to be Deinosuchus.
My favourite episode of Walking with Dinosaurs. The polar setting and Koolasuchus were really interesting. I adored the soundtrack and it remains my favourite scores of the series to this day. So glad to see that also getting a mention.
I nearly jumped out of my chair when this popped up! I forget how long it is since I discovered your channel via the WWD videos, but it's been... a while, I believe.
Thank you very much for your video and explanations. I remember the original series well. I also remember not agreeing to several representations, including fluff/feathers. It is amazing to me how fast knowledge progresses nowadays. In only 20 years science has come such a long way for so many "facts" to become "outdated"! I love it! Thank you for posting this! You got yourself a new subscriber. THANK YOU
Thank you so much for finally covering my favorite episode of WWD I absolutely loved koolasuchus growing up and I hope temnospondyls get more love in the future
Boy have I missed this series, glad it’s finally coming back! This series may be outdated as all hell but I’ll always appreciate The massive impact it made for paleontology as a whole!
I was really worried this series wouldn't return. I was looking forward to this episode especially because I wanted to hear you talk about the Polar Allosaur. Also out of all the Walking with Dinosaurs episodes, this is probably the episode I've watched the least. Hopefully when you conclude Walking with Dinosaurs you'll go onto Walking with Monsters and Beasts. Maybe even the spin off stuff like Chased by Sea Monsters (my favorite piece of Walking With media). Fantastic video as always!
Thank you so much, I (still) love WWD and your series about it ❤️ 30:20 & 30:40 For highly agile flying an unstable aerodynamics can actually be an advantage, as it allows to quickly shift aerodynamic loading. But it's much more challenging in terms of correcting unwanted instability and wouldn't be beneficial for long haul flights. So there could have been quite a lot of diversity in Pterosaur wingtip designs, depending on their niche. 31:00 Adaptive aerodynamics is a way to avoid a big trade-off between stability and agility, very cool that some Pterosaurs seemed in a way to be capable thereof 😎 Interesting to know that quite a lot of live acting by extant taxa was employed! 31:35 I'm willing to grant WWD the artistic freedom for their Steropodon cast ;-) It doesn't look too far fetched that a Monotreme might have resembled a modern day mammal through coevolution, especially when looking at the rather late diversion of Echidnas from a likely Platypus-like ancestor. I haven't much of a problem to imagine a Coatimundi like relative of Echidnas and Platypus, although it's entirely spectaculative. I'm excited seeing your next episode 👍😊
Wanted to say thank you so much for all your hard work on this series, i am about 30 now 😂and i am big palaeontology enthusiast and when i was growing up this programme had a huge effect on me like u say it inspired people our age about paylontoligy, so thank for braking down one of the most iconic dinosaur documentarys
FINALLY!! I was starting to think he forgot about this series. In the last one he said he wouldn’t make us wait a year for the next episode and it’s been 2 years 😂. But I’m happy he’s back at it. This my favorite episode
For some reason, I only had this episode and the last episode on tape as a kid so I had the joy of getting invested in the lives of dinosaurs and the sadness of watching them all go extinct just one episode later😂 My sister and I would watch those tapes over and over again and I can’t tell you how nostalgic it is to see clips of it. As an animator now, it’s so fun to see the mixture of animation and practical effects! Also I’m kinda glad they showed koolasuchus even if it’s inaccurate because if they hadn’t, I’d have never known about it and it’s one of my favourite prehistoric animals.❤
Yea…about what you were saying at the end, how following either a single or group of animals throughout a set time period…whether it be just a season or a significant portion of their life. Which is, imo the one major thing that Prehistoric Planet 1 and 2 are missing is the episode structure that works so wonderfully in both WWD and WWB. Cause as beautiful as it is, it makes me feel as if I’m just jumping around all over the place sometimes you know? Anyways…another awesome video my dude!😉👍😅
The puppets for the baby Leaellynasaura did show little filaments coming out of them. A bit too sparse to be effective insulation in that environment but it’s an interesting detail.
Please do more of these vids and stop waiting years in between each episode🙏🏼 I’ve been watching your vids for a while so I’ve literally been waiting years for this, which is crazy lol not that we’re entitled to anything ofc, but starting a widely popular series on your channel and then taking years to finish it is tough for people that love it. And out of respect, I know you are going to make vids about things you want to. But you seem to really enjoy doing these and they are some of the most successful on your channel. So it confuses me from a content creator perspective why you wouldn’t finish up this series and even move onto to doing other “inaccuracies/reviews” as well. Anyway just some thoughts, love your vids!
So nice to see this come back. Hopefully in the future, we can also get Walking with Beasts and Walking with Monsters.
And maybe even other paleo documentaries like when dinosaurs roamed america dinosaur planet planet dinosaur dinosaur revolution bizare dinosaurs giants of Patagonia and maybe even prehistoric planet
Definitely walking with beast. Still holds up today even with the inaccuracy.
Yeah I wanna hear opinions on the the non-european white cavemen in walking with cavemen
ive watched all of these lmao @@stevenelbert8989
Finally a video without 7dos
Walking With Dinosaurs becoming dated is a good thing in that it means that our understanding of paleontology has progressed so far in the past 24 years. Imagine what we'll find out in the next 24.
Personally, that's why it bugs me when _Planet Dinosaur_ whips out the scientific evidence every other second - aside from the more obvious problem of pausing the action to prattle on about stuff that no-one cares about besides the hardcore paleo nerds, it dates the show by presenting it as "THIS is the up-to-date info on how we CURRENTLY think these dinosaurs were like!" It has similar energy to when shows, movies, games etc. put the word "new" in the title, such as _New Super Mario Bros._ or _The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh,_ to name examples.
I'm so glad this series is back. This episode is one of my favorites. I love how much it got right. As well as it's depiction of just how different it was inside the Antarctic Circle back then. I love the inclusion of Koolasuchus, (prehistoric amphibians do not get enough attention,) and Muttaburrasauras is one of my favorite dinosaurs ever. I can't wait for the finale.
Very much agreed
The Koolasuchus is my favorite part of this.
Thank you so much, it's good to be back making these videos! Not long to wait for the finale now ;)
@@BenGThomas have to say this is my personal favourite episode from the show it just shows a part of time that really isnt highlighted in regular media when thinking about dinosaurs especially with things like koolasuchus we just dont get amphibians that large anymore
I’ve been so eagerly waiting for you to get back to reviewing this series! Thank you for getting back to it, this is one of my favorite Walking with episodes!
I think they need to go back to previous episodes since it’s been years that they were released
@@Little-_Z They might do it for next year's 25th anniversary.
This episode was always my favorite as a kid. Maybe I was biased because this one had Koolasuchus in it, but looking back, it still holds that title thanks to its atmosphere, uniqueness, music, and storytelling. I love this episode for shedding some light on the more obscure cold-weather dinosaurs.
This episode was shot in New Zealand! As a New Zealander, I was lucky to visit this spot when I was quite young. I remember they had a couple of old steam trains that you could take a trip on through this particular forest. Very cold and damp, but absolutely magical:)
Holy crap I can’t believe the first video in this series was 4 years ago. I thought it was just 2 time flies. I’m glad you’re still continuing it I love these videos
By the time they're done with all of them, enough time will have passed since the first one to start "The Scientific Accuracy of 'The scientific accuracy of Walking With Dinosaurs'"
I would also like to point out that the “Polar Allosaur” in this episode should not be referred to as definitely being Australovenator and be labelled as an unnamed theropod, even if it’s called an unnamed Megaraptorid. The reason is because Australovenator is only known from an incomplete skeleton found in the Winton Formation of Queensland, which is thought to date from anywhere between 100-94mya. Stating that Australovenator lived in Victoria or Antarctica at around 106mya would make it a time traveller and a migrator. While there is some evidence of theropod dinosaurs assigned to the Megaraptorsn clade found in Australia, none of them show enough detail to be confidently placed as Australovenator itself. I see a lot of people on the internet calling the “Polar Allosaur” as Australovenator without actually looking into the evidence the scientists have already explained. I even met an Australian Paleontologist during his presentation on Paleontology and he stated that the theropod leg bone can’t be described as an Australovenator without further evidence.
The ankle bone that is the basis of the "Polar Allosaur" can't even be properly labelled as an unnamed Megaraptorid because it's realistically impossible to say for sure it didn't come from some other kind of theropod. It's been identified as both Coelurosaur and Abelisaurid in origin at different points. The theropod fossil record in Australia so terrible we will probably never know for sure anyway.
The "polar allosaur" ankle bone stems from the Wonthaggi Formation (same as Koolasuchus), which means it is (at least) 120 million years old, while Australovenator and most of the Winton fauna stem from upper Cenomanian strata, making them about 25 million years younger. The age difference is comparable to the age difference between T. rex and Suskityrannus. Pre-2013, it was thought that the Winton Formation represented the late Albian, but even then, the paper that suggested that the ankle bone could be classified as "Australovenator sp." acknowledged that there was at least a 10-million-year age gap between it and the Winton fossils, showing that this was always blatant wastebin taxonomy, so this cheap retcon by BBC became outdated itself XD
Did they not just blatantly call this mysterious mini-carnosaur a 'Polar Allosaur' because they wanted to believe Allosaurus got into the Early Cretaceous (no more evidence he did than with Ceratosaurus, Stegosaurus, Aaptosaurus etc.), and they wanted to keep it recognisable. It's sad to do this, don't cover that area if you don't have a preadator for it.
@@kyachdistent1301 No, it was legitimately identified as an allosaur and even a species of Allosaurus by paleontologists in Australia back in the 80s. This obviously was not a well-informed stance, but such was the thinking in 20th-century paleontology, that you could properly identify an animal based on the most scrappy of fossils, and we knew much, much less about theropod biodiversity back in the 80s-90s. WWD was actually being cognizant by just calling it an allosaur.
@@daliborjovanovic510So do you know what the dinosaur actually could be? Or the fragmentary bits too vague for identification?
I’m glad that this series has finally returned. Walking With Dinosaurs was such an amazing series, and it’s fascinating to see how much our understanding of dinosaurs has changed since it first aired.
I kind of like the idea of the Leaellynasaura having long feathery tails to keep warm during the winter times. Such a cute image
Honestly while it plausible, most ornithischians only have fuzz on the top of the tail so it wouldn’t look like a squirrel type cute animal
@@greyideasthetheliopurodon4640 not really. The only ornithischian to have evidence of feathers on top of its tail specifically is Psittacosaurus. Others like Tianyulong preserve fuzz all over their bodies. Kulindadromeus is feathered everywhere except for the tail. There was a lot of variety between each of them, so it's entirely possible Leaellynasaura had a bushy tail.
@@LucasCaminha what I was trying to say is that we don’t really have the squirrel like bushy tail on any ornithischian
It is something modern snow leopards do
The filaments of tianyulong may also be a lot longer than previously thought based on a un-described specimen from china. You can find photos of it on the internet.@@LucasCaminha
How fitting that the return of the Ben G Thomas WWD accuracy series is Spirits Of The Ice Forest. And in December no less
It’s summer in the area depicted, of course.
Finally! I'm so happy you didn't abandon this series. Prehistoric Park and Walking with are definitely what got me into paleontology.
BTW absolutely love the track "Antarctic spring" from this episode
I don't believe it! This series is back, and with my favorite Walking With episode! Christmas has come early this year.
One day I hope they make "Scuttling with Trilobites." 😁
Our understanding of dinosaurs and their environments is always going to evolve but I am amazed at how well this *_24 year old_* series holds up. BTW by a peculiar coincidence I just re-watched this series a few days ago!
I love that even if one of your video series has been dormant for a while, it eventually wakes up. Dovetails nicely with this episode, har har
I was so worried this series was dead, it's a real joy to see it return.
I would absolutely love to see a 'remastered' version of the entirety of the Walking With series, with updated information on the dinosaurs featured.
Spirits of the Ice Forest was always my favourite episode, I was gutted that you never got around to making this back when you were originally doing the series, so this is one hell of a Christmas gift
“The King, has returned.”
Can’t wait to see you continue with this Ben!
The music in this episode was awe inspiring 🙌
That long tail does sound interesting, most cold weather animals tend to have shorter stubbier appendages to preserve warmth
24 years and it still has my favourite title of an episode of anything, ever. It tells you exactly what you're getting into while also denoting there's something mystical and ethereal about the setting
So excited that this series is back with a 40-minute dissection of Spirits of the Ice Forest! I know it's the least popular of the six original episodes, but it was always my favorite growing up, and Laellynasaura was one of my favorite dinosaurs.
You know, at the rate this series is going you will be able to go back and correct the corrections with modern discoveries.
This dropped out of nowhere, thank you so much!
One touch I liked was how many of the animals depicted seemed to have their eyes partially closed. This makes sense considering that the dark months had just ended and they probably weren't used to the light yet. I like when they add little details like that.
Nice to see you revisiting it! ;)
However, you forgot to mention that small ornithopods like Leaellynasaura had "angrier"-looking eyes than depicted here.
Hodgepodge mentioned that in his review of the episode. They had eyebrow ridges that made them look angry.
Also the possibility of burrowing behavior.
This episode was always my favorite because of the Muttaburrasaurus, but also because of the hauntingly beautiful music. It's wonderful, and it is the one that I've focused on arranging
I'm so excited for this video! I'd also love to see the beginning of a Walking with Beasts series as well to give some love to prehistoric mammals that are often overshadowed by Dinosaurs
I love this episode - neoorthischians are featured/focused on too little in dinosaur media, even in media targeted at kids, and Leaellynasaura with its tight group structure is especially relatable and awe-inspiring.
Just rewatched this all on iPlayer. Probably not adding any sentiment that you haven’t addressed yourself but - one thing that makes walking with dinosaurs rewatchable? Not just for nostalgia (I’m 23 and first watched it when I was about 3 years old), but the fact it takes risks. Some of the behaviours are speculative as mentioned in this brilliant series a few times, but I love how it’s just presented as a nature doc. They strung a narrative together with each of the animals and just put you in that place rather than showing you fossils etc. I love modern documentaries that include references to research etc, but it is so nice to just sit and watch it as if the dinosaurs are doing their thing and are the complete focus. The concessions we allow for the things we love eh 😂 love this series amazing to watch after just watching the original series recently!
Thanks to this video I found out that the version of Walking with Dinosaurs I'd been watching since I was a kid was an abridged version. Mine completely cut out all the scenes including the Koolasuchus, Steropodon, or the Tuatara, and I've gone my whole life never seeing them despite watching the show hundreds of times. No doubt the other episodes have cut lots of things too
You might want to look up the unabridged versions, they're still worth a watch
@@WAMTAT I definitely will!
This was the series that got me into this channel and I've been waiting two years for a continuation of this I'm so gonna enjoy watch through this entire episode minute by minute
Thank you for taking the time to make sure your captions reflect what you actually say, and not the garbled guesswork the transcription program usually puts out.
This is a wonderful series, it’s so good to see another installment.
I lost faith that this series would continue. But I’m glad that I’m wrong! Thanks for continuing this series
I'm a man of simple tastes. I see a title with "Walking With Dinosaurs," I click. This series is a core childhood memory. The facts may not have aged well, but the painstaking effort behind the cinematography and animation still makes it the best dinosaur documentary ever made even 24 years later.
The walking with series really needs a reboot. It's a series I never denigrate for it's inaccuracy.....because they didn't seem to do so with any form of negativity in mind. They were just trying to flesh out what it could have possibly have been in the era they were trying to portray. I absolutely understand that. It is fantastical, it's not impossible. Hell, if I were to do a documentary on the creek near where I live, it would be boring as hell. This year, apparently a beaver has arrived. Over the last ten years, black bears, a grizzly and deer in galore. The bears are rare as hell, a racoon was spotted once. If I were to edit the footage that I do not have, it would be condensed to have all of them.
Very glad you're keeping this show going. Hope we get to see "The Ballad of Big Al", also!
In a very real sense the out of date nature of walking with dinosaurs is a high complement to the series. It was so good and so interesting that many many young people became fascinated by the beasts and began to study them. I teach geology at a university level and the number of people willing to put up with the hard work of paleontology has increased significantly and even amongst those unwilling to put in the hours the increased interest has put a new life into the field. I wonder how much of the corrections you give us (and I enjoy them) were found by people inspired by Walking with Dinosaurs? My area of interest might not have any dinosaurs but I do keep up, and there is a world of good stuff out there for us who just enjoy the learning.
I binged the rest of this series a couple of weeks back, was disappointed when i thought there wasn't more. Very glad to see a new episode!!
Muttaburrasaurus is cool and all, but don't forget the absolutely EPIC soundtrack for their departure! It felt like the end of an era seeing them walk away with such an epic track in the background
This episode has my favorite music in the whole documentary. Spirits of the Ice Forest is so beautiful and mystical, Sleeping Lyeaellynasaura is very tranquil and ambient, and as you mentioned Departure of the Muttaburrasaurus is very haunting and melancholic. The music still makes my eyes teary to this day
In 24 years:
The scientific accuracy of Ben G Thomas RUclips video on the scientific accuracy of Walking with Dinosaurs.
Yes! So glad you continued this series
I started out thinking that maybe inaccuracies were because of knowledge gaps of the age, but nope. Right away the geography and chronology were wrong.
At 27:15 there is the proposal that the morphology of the hind feet show that they were used in hunting. I would like to point out that in cats, pray is almost always caught with the front paws. But if a fight breaks out, those hind claws can eviscerate an opponent.
Oh my God I can't believe this is back. Thank our lucky stars. Hope you'll get to prehistoric planet eventually!
Ive never even seen Walking with Dinosaurs, but I have thorughly enjoyed this series. Great work!
The nostalgia from watching this as 12 year old kid feels so good. I loved the „Walking with …“ shows and I watched all of them, at least this ones which were available in German TV. I still have the related books.
Thank you so much for showing in detail the accuracies and inaccuracies of this fantastic show ❤
I'm pretty sure the very pronounced cheeks on the Leaellynasaura is just because of how they modeled the 'puppet'. When you rewatch any of the Predator films after the first one, you'll notice that the Predator's cheeks will also jut out like this whenever their 'mouths' are closed. This is purely because the modelers created the masks or puppets with material that wont keep the cheeks properly in place *or* the cast was shaped with their mouths open in mind and the material doesn't form properly to a closed mouth
Thank you for this. I have been refreshing the channel for 2+ years waiting for this video 😻😻
Man, I hope you continue with this series, maybe even go into other Walking With series and Prehistoric Planet
Might wanna wait til the Montana Dueling Dinosaurs is open to the public before tackling the final episode.
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theres actually a meta reason as to why they couldnt have a platypus re-enact this, Platypodes are endangered and its VERY hard to get your hands on them even for a zoo. It was this year that the first platypus was put in a zoo outside of australia.
ITS BACK!!!! I'm so excited. Got myself a snack and settled in for the next 40 minutes
Hey, you released the new epusode after I finished the final draft of my dinosaur novel!
Speaking of, Spirits of the Ice Forests sounds like a great fantasy book title, huh?
I also like the German title "Die Wesen des Stillen Waldes / The creatures of the silent woods".
@@fermintenava5911the German titles of Walking with Dinosaurs episodes are all great. I especially like the German name of the final episode: “Untergang einer Dynastie” (Downfall of a Dynasty). Plus, Austrian actor Otto Clemens has the best narrator voice.
I watched this episode over and over as a kid! I was fascinated by the way the Lealynasaura were depicted as a clan and having family groups. The decoy nests reminded me of turkey behavior.
I was about to crroect you on the pterosaur wingtips and Steropodon's beak, but then you showed you did research. Great work!
I'm have been waiting for you to review this episode. It's my personal favourite as unlike the rest of the other episodes where most of the settings have previously been done, this episode was set in a unique location that I don't think has been before or since.
to be fair, i doubt they would have got permission from anyone in Australia to throw dirt at a platypus
Finally the series returns! I love WWD and your reviews & discussions of them is how I got to your channel. I hope you can get to review the other episodes and specials in the future.
Spirits of the ice forest was always my personal favorite walking with dinosaurs episode.
Since you’re back at it, you need to remember that the dromaeosaur in episode 6 was never referred to as “Dromaeosaurus” in the episode. It’s a generic dromaeosaurid.
That and it’s the just a recycled Utahraptor model from episode 4.
Also, the unnamed 1 ton crocs (referred to as Deinosuchus in other media), is more than likely based on Thoracosaurus, the large Gavialoid from Hell Creek and associated formations.
It is referred to as Dromaeosaurus in the tie-in book Walking with Dinosaurs The Evidence, and at the time, dromaeosaur teeth from Hell Creek were lumped into this genus.
And both The Evidence, along with Walking with Dinosaurs A Natural History and the 2005's The Complete Guide To Prehistoric Life all identify the croc from "Death of a Dynasty" as Deinosuchus. A poorly reconstructed and anachronistic depiction maybe, but still meant to be Deinosuchus.
@@daliborjovanovic510 I stand corrected then.
My favourite episode of Walking with Dinosaurs. The polar setting and Koolasuchus were really interesting. I adored the soundtrack and it remains my favourite scores of the series to this day. So glad to see that also getting a mention.
Can I just point out how all of the captions were done too? Incredibly thorough, thanks Ben!
Walking with dinosaurs and also All the series Prehistoric Park with Nigel Marven were just so cool as a kid :)
I nearly jumped out of my chair when this popped up! I forget how long it is since I discovered your channel via the WWD videos, but it's been... a while, I believe.
Thank you very much for your video and explanations.
I remember the original series well. I also remember not agreeing to several representations, including fluff/feathers.
It is amazing to me how fast knowledge progresses nowadays.
In only 20 years science has come such a long way for so many "facts" to become "outdated"!
I love it!
Thank you for posting this! You got yourself a new subscriber.
THANK YOU
So excited to see you doing more!
My favorite episode of the show growing up! Giant amphibian throwbacks my beloved. Great to see you back to reviewing a classic!
When I was little, I had a dream that they sold the WWD Leaellynasaura in pet stores.
It’s been like three years 😭 thank you for not dropping this series
This is by far my favourite episode and I've been waiting for your review for a long time.
yes this series got me into your channel, I'm so hyped it's continuing
Been waiting for this to be back for ages, thanks for the birthday gift :D
Thank you so much for finally covering my favorite episode of WWD I absolutely loved koolasuchus growing up and I hope temnospondyls get more love in the future
you're the only person that makes talking for an hour actually interesting
i love listening to you
You just absolutely made my day! So glad this series is alive!!
Its my birthday today and this is the best gift i could get
One of my fav episodes. The giant amphibian was such a nice touch and gave the show a truly alien feel.
Boy have I missed this series, glad it’s finally coming back! This series may be outdated as all hell but I’ll always appreciate The massive impact it made for paleontology as a whole!
Wonderful summary of WWD5! Well done!
This has been so long since last WWD episode I had forgotten you had this series. Haha!
This is my personal favorite episode of this show, and I'm really happy that my favorite animal from this show Koolasuchus aged like a fine wine
Omg i thought this would never be finished! I hope you'll do the same for death of a dynasty.
the wait is is over, but the wait was worth it good job
I was really worried this series wouldn't return. I was looking forward to this episode especially because I wanted to hear you talk about the Polar Allosaur. Also out of all the Walking with Dinosaurs episodes, this is probably the episode I've watched the least. Hopefully when you conclude Walking with Dinosaurs you'll go onto Walking with Monsters and Beasts. Maybe even the spin off stuff like Chased by Sea Monsters (my favorite piece of Walking With media). Fantastic video as always!
Thank you so much, I (still) love WWD and your series about it ❤️
30:20 & 30:40 For highly agile flying an unstable aerodynamics can actually be an advantage, as it allows to quickly shift aerodynamic loading. But it's much more challenging in terms of correcting unwanted instability and wouldn't be beneficial for long haul flights. So there could have been quite a lot of diversity in Pterosaur wingtip designs, depending on their niche.
31:00 Adaptive aerodynamics is a way to avoid a big trade-off between stability and agility, very cool that some Pterosaurs seemed in a way to be capable thereof 😎
Interesting to know that quite a lot of live acting by extant taxa was employed!
31:35 I'm willing to grant WWD the artistic freedom for their Steropodon cast ;-) It doesn't look too far fetched that a Monotreme might have resembled a modern day mammal through coevolution, especially when looking at the rather late diversion of Echidnas from a likely Platypus-like ancestor. I haven't much of a problem to imagine a Coatimundi like relative of Echidnas and Platypus, although it's entirely spectaculative.
I'm excited seeing your next episode 👍😊
what has it been, like 2 years?
LOVE IT
Wanted to say thank you so much for all your hard work on this series, i am about 30 now 😂and i am big palaeontology enthusiast and when i was growing up this programme had a huge effect on me like u say it inspired people our age about paylontoligy, so thank for braking down one of the most iconic dinosaur documentarys
I'm so glad you're enjoying the series! WWD was a massive inspiration to me too, it makes me happy to know so many other people love it like I do!
So glad that you decided to continue this series. thank you
So great to see that this series still runs :)
FINALLY!! I was starting to think he forgot about this series. In the last one he said he wouldn’t make us wait a year for the next episode and it’s been 2 years 😂. But I’m happy he’s back at it. This my favorite episode
For some reason, I only had this episode and the last episode on tape as a kid so I had the joy of getting invested in the lives of dinosaurs and the sadness of watching them all go extinct just one episode later😂
My sister and I would watch those tapes over and over again and I can’t tell you how nostalgic it is to see clips of it.
As an animator now, it’s so fun to see the mixture of animation and practical effects!
Also I’m kinda glad they showed koolasuchus even if it’s inaccurate because if they hadn’t, I’d have never known about it and it’s one of my favourite prehistoric animals.❤
I cannot tell you how happy I am right now.
YAY YOU ARE BACK!! Covering my favorite episode is such a treat
Yea…about what you were saying at the end, how following either a single or group of animals throughout a set time period…whether it be just a season or a significant portion of their life.
Which is, imo the one major thing that Prehistoric Planet 1 and 2 are missing is the episode structure that works so wonderfully in both WWD and WWB.
Cause as beautiful as it is, it makes me feel as if I’m just jumping around all over the place sometimes you know?
Anyways…another awesome video my dude!😉👍😅
The puppets for the baby Leaellynasaura did show little filaments coming out of them. A bit too sparse to be effective insulation in that environment but it’s an interesting detail.
Please do more of these vids and stop waiting years in between each episode🙏🏼
I’ve been watching your vids for a while so I’ve literally been waiting years for this, which is crazy lol
not that we’re entitled to anything ofc, but starting a widely popular series on your channel and then taking years to finish it is tough for people that love it.
And out of respect, I know you are going to make vids about things you want to. But you seem to really enjoy doing these and they are some of the most successful on your channel. So it confuses me from a content creator perspective why you wouldn’t finish up this series and even move onto to doing other “inaccuracies/reviews” as well.
Anyway just some thoughts, love your vids!
There were those who said this day would never come, what are they to say now?