The Fever NEED To Try Trade for Marina Mabrey After The Sun Are Imploding...
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- The Fever NEED To Try Trade for Marina Mabrey After The Sun Are Imploding... In this video we are going to be talking about Caitlin Clark, the number 1 pick in the WNBA draft and how she is ready to take over the WNBA.
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The Fever NEED To Try Trade for Marina Mabrey After The Sun Are Imploding... In this video we are going to be talking about Caitlin Clark, the number 1 pick in the WNBA draft and how she is ready to take over the WNBA. In this video we are going to be talking about the WNBA. THe league is growing with Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese, Cameron Brink, Diana Taurasi, Breanna Steward and A'Ja Wilson who have all been incredible
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Mick is going to name every single female basketball player until he gets one of them right.
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For real by now the whole W needs to go to the Fever sheesh
I mean, he's not saying "this will happen", he's saying "this is a possible option". I don't really get the criticism...
@@aden538 Agree. He's just talking about players who would fit. Not that they are coming.
At least Mick is trying to hit the board with his darts but they are very well thought out. 25% of his proposed pick for the Fever will do them WONDER. Keep a good thinking hat on and keep moving ON, Mick. Love you.
I like this take. The Fever does need another guard. Grace in for CC & Marina in for Kelsey. Marina would also bring some feistiness that the Fever core three don't bring.
I am ALL over this one. The girl is magical. Good enforcer as well.
Fever needs BIGS, not another guard.
Mabrey for Smith; make Dijonai happy.
This wouldn’t be bad. She can play both guard spots and have a 3 guard rotation and you don’t lose much from deep
And what's wrong with Olivia Nelson Ododa? She gives the Fever some size (6'5"), athleticism and rim protection which they defenitely will miss with Fagbenle's departure. And they'll need her against teams with big lineups in the W. Adding Mabrey isn't terrible by any means either but she'll probably cut into Berger's minutes once again sacrificing Grace's development as a player for short term gains.
This will be a good choice. And Fever can get her via a trade since she is a less than 5 pt per game player. Suns will trade her if a good offer is suggested to them.
Mabrey is a bad luck charm. We don't want her bad juju to affect the Fever. Every team she joins falls apart. As soon as she joins a team, the coach & all the top stars leave & the team goes into rebuild mode.
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Well there's no chance that happens here
Temi missed half the season and the Fever went on their run when she was injured. She looked good the first couple weeks of the season and that was it.
@ I just don't see the point in the Fever tempting the basketball gods by adding someone who has that bad energy following them. As silly as it is, athletes give a lot of credence & energy to superstition & rituals.
The Fever don’t need Mabrey or any other guards for that matter, Mabrey won’t be happy riding the bench, even on a winner. We need players that are 6’ 3” or taller that can play D and shoot. Mabrey is owed 208k next year, If they took Smith and Katie Lou, Dantas or Wallace then maybe take her.
They have room to take Marina if Smith is gone and Wheeler being let go. I don't really see Satou ending up on the Fever. SO, we kind of need to hope to Draft Marrow with the 8th pick and that she is good enough to Start and play well.
They currently only have 3 guards on the roster and one of them has very little on court experience. They are losing Wheeler. They need another guard.
@ they have 5 guards on the roster CC, KM, Lexie, Berger and Wallace. Berger is the backup point, Lexie started at the 3 because Katie Lou was so bad. If you want to upgrade Wallace fine but Mabrey would be the 5th or 6th guard coming off the bench for 208k. Trading for her would prevent them from signing anyone to replace Smith at the 4. There are equally good players who are free agents at position of need vs a backup guard.
If the Fever sign a guard I would prefer Tiffany Hayes over Mabrey she’s older but they could sign her for half the price and her personality is a much better fit than Mabrey.
No way dude. They need bigs. They don’t need more guards.
Wheeler is not going to be on the Fever in 2025. So, there is room for Mabrey.
They need several players period. They need another guard. Grace Berger is the only depth they have.
I love when you get in 2K franchise mode and start talking about all these wild scenarios that about 20% actually happen..you are the “all knowing” who “knows nothing” 😂
thank god you’re not a GM
I think you've made a video about every WNBA player and why they should go to fill in the blank team.
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he’s saying anything atp 😂😂 that would legit be marinas 5th team in only 8 years ..
he just keeps making vids for likes and subs. stat padding in a way LOL. it's the reason i unsubscribed. that and yawning while making vids. i mean c'mon Mick. quality over quantity ... sheesh
@rmmicu
There's an algorithm for gaining subscribers. He makes 5 videos per day. He knows what he's doing. It's his job bro.
@taggangmember like I said. Stat padding to gain likes and subs instead of doing less but higher quality videos. I don't care much for volume. I care about content quality. I sure as heck don't want to see anyone yawning during such... Repeatedly!!!
Mabrey! Hell NO!
Can’t believe I just realized mick is from the 2k community 😭😭. I used to watch u and Troydan lol
How is Marina Mabrey not a "starting level player for a contending team"? Did you look at Marina Mabrey's stats with Connecticut last year? She had a .574 EFG. Yes, .574. Kelsey Mitchell, in a banner year, was at .549. Caitlin Clark at .522. As far as I can tell, the only player who got a decent number of minutes last year, with a better EFG, was Bridget Carlton at .604. And Carlton had like half the usage rate. Which brings me to the 2nd reason Marina Mabrey is absolutely a starting level player- she average 19.6 points per 36. You know who else averaged 19.6 points per 36? Caitlin Clark.
Having said all that, should the Fever trade for Marina Mabrey? Almost certainly no? Like, if the Fever did trade for Mabrey, they'd be insane not to start her over Hull. But although Mabrey's defense was, as you note, OK, this would still be a defensive downgrade on a team that primarily needs defensive upgrades. And while starting the 5-11 Mabrey as your Wing isn't nuts, and the Fever ran with the similarly sized Wallace as their starting wing for a lot of last year, it still seems small for a team that's undersized at every position other than the 1, currently (I'm assuming Nalyssa is replaced with, well, someone else). If they could get Mabrey for a song- Nalyssa, and maybe the 2nd as you suggest- maybe I'd bite and try to solve my size/defense issue with either the 1st round pick or a vet signing. But you'd have to find a 4 who was a lockdown defender AND could spread the floor and those don't grow on trees, so I'm skeptical.
Bad news: EFG doesn’t win games. Stats can be misleading sometimes.
No no no. Attitude sucks. Not our kind of player
Mabrey would be good off the bench, I agree.
Off the bench??😂
@@Iheartbaylor haha
Mick has made videos about half the players in the WNBA and why the Fever should sign/trade for them. Yet, the only thing that's ACTUALLY happened is that they lost Temi. Hilarious!
He throws stuff on the wall. Whatever sticks. "See I was right!"
Hahahaha, not even Carrington would like to have Smith in her team.🤪
She literally said she would.💀
Mabrey was traded for the 2026 first round pick, Jefferson, and Banham, With all that Mick, you think the Fever can get her for just Nalyssa Smith, please put down the pipe brother
Olivia Nelson Ododa is the ONLY player that the Sun might consider parting with for Smith. This would be a great move for both teams, the Fever need to get rid of Smith ASAP lest they end up getting stuck with her for the entire 2025 season. But only AFTER exhausting all trade possibilities involving Smith for Satou Sabally.
Y'all Delusional
Nalyssa is better than Marina.
I got a Sky-Town Mabrey shirt on clearance, and I've always wanted a Mabrey jersey even if it's Connecticut/Keesusk and also Phantom BC. But I wouldn't mind a Mabrey Fever jersey to go with my Clarks and Hulls lol
Dude, the Fever don't need another guard. Get a clue, will you?
We definitely need another backup guard. We are losing Erica Wheeler. Grace will probably take that role, but I would love to have Mabrey available on the bench.
Cmon man, a team without a bench depht aint a contender. Starters need to rest. Mabrey is a good sub for Kelsey or Lexie.
Agree
Mabrey would want to start not backup
I'd still like to get a Notre Dame guard in the draft. js
Why on earth would Mabrey join the Fever? That's the most ridiculous thing you've said all year. Mabrey hates Clark. When Carrington nearly poked Clark's eye out, Mabrey laughed. Nope, never gonna happen.
Exactly!
You are delusional. This did not happen.
@EverydayDebaser There’s video evidence, it happened. That being said MM would be open to it as Sun aren’t doing anything this year
@@quasarrad1464 Video evidence? Ahahahaha! It was Melo 3 to the Dome. Then she trolled people like you about it. Don't lose your mind over drama queen gossip. You believe this false narrative simply because you want to. I never knew WNBA pulled in so many crackpot conspiracy theorists.
@EverydayDebaser I was watching the game when she did it.
Marina Mabrey doesn't like Caitlin Clark tho..i think she rather play against her then being her teammate
That’s what they said about her and Dijonai
I never got that vibe from her regarding CC.
She will if she gets to know her…🤔☮️
I agree Fever should do all they can to get Mabrey, it would be a game changer for the fever. But of course we dont know what the Fever brass are cooking up , they say they are recruiting overseas and whatever happens should be good.
That is why you are not the Fever. Thank goodness.
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Totally agree Mick! Marina is a baller and an enforcer. Really need a big that can run the floor, but I think the Fever have the cash for Mabrey and she would be great off the bench!
She would be a good fit for the Fever.
Nah Marina rather play against Caitlin why she would be her teammate for makes no sense to me
Remember when DjN poked CC in the eye? You know who was laughing on the sideline with her while CC was on the floor? Mabrey and I’m sure CC saw that video. I doubt she wants Mabrey around. Also, the Fever want more defense and Mabrey is not the answer.
I just wrote that same thing before I started reading the comments.
You talking about when she did Melo 3 to the Done and shyster RUclips channels knowingly whipped up a ridiculous frenzy based on intentional lies aimed at getting you to click? You didn't actually believe them, did you? You're not that gullible, right?
I commented on the behavior I saw. Not sure what you re referring to.
@@Streetbb77 Marina Mabrey was not laughing on the sideline with Mustard while CC was down after the eye poke incident. That did NOT happen. Maybe you should go back and rewatch. She did, later in the game, give the Melo 3 to the Dome gesture after a big 3 point shot. That is a legit form of celebration. A lot of people apparently don't know what that is and keep spreading a fake story that she was pointing at her eye and laughing.
I saw her on the sidelines laughing
You want to add Durant and Curry to if Mick was a GM there would only be one team in the league and not enough players on the other teams 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Marina came off the bench because of a contender team and she was traded to an already establish line up! I recall she was put in the starting line up too....
She's better than Lexi Hull
Kinda
Not on D she got cooked last year and she can't dribble no thanks
I swear this dude have some of the dumbest takes.. Why would Indi trade for her? Makes no sense.. Indi needs a physical center so Boston can play the PF position and a SF who can defend, and get buckets..
Yes! Been thinking about this!
Marina for Nalyssa and Katie Lou plus Cash for Marina.
Contrary to other posters, I think yours is a good idea, mainly to get rid of Smith. Hope it pans out.
This is your worst take yet. Mabrey has bad juju. Every team she joins falls apart. As soon as she joins a team, all the top stars leave & the team goes into rebuild mode. We do not want her bad luck affecting the Fever.
The Fever should work out a trade to get Kate Martin for NS.
Mabrey don’t wanna go to the Fever but if ya’ll want Mabrey good luck…
The sun can get Smith for alot less then Mabrey. There no way they are going to give up Mabrey for Smith.
Agreed. Ododa is about the only thing I see the Sun parting with for Smith that could actually prove useful to the Fever.
@christopherkohl6511 You're delusional
You need to limit yourself to one video a day.
IND needs to actually get a "real free agent" in order to establish that those aren't lies that management was spewing about "everybody wants to come to INDY" which is looking like a joke now.
If they don't get an upgrade for the SF or PF position, then they may not really have any big free agents next year or the year after either--they need to change course this year and actually get someone in the off-season because having an overpriced EW and KLS is basically embarrassing yourself to anybody that even looks at you.
The old regime made those signings. There's not going to be alot of American free agents to come here yet because of the of the court politics of this league.
She’s definitely a starter , look at the games she started for sun 20 plus points average rebounds assists, couplec steals block
I would start Mabrey over Hull in a heartbeat. We see her skill in Unrivaled and she is killing it. Probably the 1A or 1B favorite for MVP. Although, she would be the best 6th Man in the league.
Yeah, Mick knows a lot about women’s basketball and enjoys expressing his thoughts. He’s very entertaining and popular. But I don’t take him ,or any other RUclips content provider or “sports journalist” ,very seriously. But maybe some of the commentators on this site may are a little too wound up about this. They regularly and vigorously criticize Mick’s opinions……but they keep coming back. It seems a bit silly to me.
I don't understand the criticism when Mick talks about players the Fever should get. Mick is not saying all the players he's suggesting the Fever should get are coming. He's just talking about players who fit.
When you are a running team three guards on the floor is not a bad thing. Especially high percentage shooters. Plus, when you have a lead you can rest CC & Kelsey, because this will be a 44 game season now and also playoffs.
Mick might just crank a video like this for every woman who walked by a basketball in the last 4 years. We need more guards? How?
We only have 3 guards on the roster dude. We're losing Wheeler.
@taggangmember Lexi is listed as a 2/3 and at 6'1" 155 lbs & with the way the league is going that's more 2 than 3. I'm seeing 4 guards in CC, KM, GB, LH. I think they have to add a big who can defend & run. If they add a guard, then LH will be more of a 3 but they's be a smaller team than I think they need to be.
No thanks Mick. She’s not a fit. I’d rather have Chennedy.
If the FEVER trade forMarina Mabrey the FEVER would be a instant CHAMPIONSHIP Contender and a Dynamic Force Starting or number 6 with 30 or more minutes !!! Marina Mabrey is a Dynamite 3 point shooter and plays Suffocating DEFENSE !!!
Smith and Wallace for Mabrey,,, Will that work
We have Sophie Cunningham.. It's the same caliber with Marina.
Don’t you remember the cheap shot she gave Kaitlyn
She's 5'11 Mick
PPG
12.2
RPG
3.4
APG
3.1
I'm not sure about that, Streaky for sure! But, she can run! A lot of money for her though???
Mick .. no one gives a damn about keeping Carrington happy… Fever have got decent players!
Mick talks poop you say about ten things hoping one is right you don't really say any solid choice
Why would Marina come off the bench for Lexie Hull?
Mabrey can really help the Fever. If Lexie is starting 5 then Mabrey is a level higher. Mabrey, CC, KM, AB, Nalyssa is good. Damn i will missed Temi 😢
Marinas too good to becoming off the bench unfortunately
She doesn't start for a single team in the W that will be above .500.
Either she wants to win off the bench or start for a bad team. Realistically she only starts for the Sky, Valkyries and maybe Mystics
In what universe is Smith for Mabrey a fair trade
This one. Mabrey was averaging like 17ppg in the playoffs off the bench. She would be an excellent shooter off the bench to spell Mitchell.
Disagree. Fever need to keep improving defensively and keep enphasizing speed. Marina Mabrey is neither.
She was laughing and joking when Miss Mustard gouged Caitlyn's eye. No effing way she fits in Indy.
What do you think of Elena Delle Donne? Can she still play or is she a slug like Griner? If she can play, I'd like to see the Fever get Della Donne!
Yeah, Mick that Asset YOU SAID needed to be protected in the expansion draft! YOU also said she was TOOOOOOO valuable to let go to the GSV. Apparently, some Drunk person at Indy heard that and said you know he has a point. When most of us were saying let GSV take her just to have her gone!!! She has ZERO trade value unless you are DC and want to lose games. I would say heck yeah to Marina joining the Fever if it gets rid of Smith. But I wouldn't give anything more than the 20th pick in the second round to seal the deal. In fact, I would first offer the 33rd Pick in the third round.
Hell no, she hates Caitlin why would you sacrifice not just their locker room peace of mind, but their over all attitude as a team.She'll be a nightmare.
When did she say that?
Hell noooo
Wouldn't Brionna Jones be a better trade for the Fever? They need forwards.
How much help does Caitlin & the fever need???
Can someone link the video where Mick says the Sky fumbled by trading Mabrey to the Suns? Thanks. By the way....if she's traded, it would be her 5th team?
Fever can only really add the following:
OLD:
EDD, Howard, or Nneka 34 to 35 YO that basically do little to help much, but do help improve somewhat.
The best option is Satou Sabally... At least of the remaining options, barring they somehow make a promising trade.
Then you got the Parker-Tyus, Hines-Allens, Mercedes Russel, Briana Turner, Aerial Powers, Issabelle Harrison types that basically don't really add any value to the team except cost like 2x or 3x whatever you pay for Smith at probably less production. You're better off CUTTING SAXTON and just paying them that instead.
Only other option is getting Briona Jones, but this doesn't really make them better.
They get all the guards they want with that Erica Wheeler money they got, but they need FORWARDS to really compete next year. If they want a guard, throw the bank at Tiffany Hayes. Lots of guards to throw Erica Wheeler money on, anyway. But if they going next year with DD, KLS, NS, and AB then they might as well refund all the tickets they sold because this is a joke.
I don’t like marina at 210. She’s not worth near that much
Not paying a high salary for a role player off the bench who has no loyalties. But I will gladly listen to you on a True Big Center that can handle Pace play, either from Draft, FA or the European League. What do you say? I drop the Gauntlet.
I have been telling you guys they have to have Marina
They have enough for two Max contracts get off at Melissa Smith for a rookie and still have like 20 K to spare this is after signing Kelsey to a max core Supermax
@@aussiewendt3029 this is true.
They have a ton of money yet all they are using it right now is to waste it.
Watch them spend it all on undersized over-valued players that do not pan out next year and they fail to have 20 wins because of it.
Fever need two new starters: PF + SF.
If they do that, then they win free agency.
Fever have nothing to offer, Conn. for Mabrey... the only thing worth it would be The first round pick and Lexie Hull.... The Sky are more likely to get Mabrey back in a deal with Carrington, for their #3 Pick and something else, there are rumors that The Sky are planning to combine their #3 pick, Dana Evans, Lindsey Allen for a really big name
Your nuts. You keep coming up with names that do not help. We need a four. Rebounder and scorer and could play defense.
That player does not exist and available either via trade or WNBA free agency for Indiana. Has to be from overseas which will be a minimum contract
Whats with teams in WNBA always imploding? Are women basketball players really dont want to play in the league theres drought of talents?
It’s still women they be fighting and having problems
Bro, they need a power forward and let MC^2 rip
She does not want to play off of the bench.
Mariney Mabrey is just as good as Clark and Mitchell... You think she is gonna join up with them when she killed them in the playoffs.. lol.... She needs to stay in connecticut or go back to the sky
I can't stand her; she's dishonest.
I think Steph & Kelly have their own ideas. And it looks like their playin a blind with perhaps the into of a European player.
I will take her over Satou
Trade for Nalyssa Smith
I don't see it happening from a character view. She simply wouldn't fit in . Personality clash🤢☹️😳 Get real dude, thinking is free, try it, it's healthy
Fever need a 4 and a 5
WHY? Just because?
Fever need BIGS
Could we outbid golden state for temi?
We need Temi back
Trade for her and put her where??
The Sun got robbed on this trade.
Nalyssa is better than Marina.
The Fever need to trade Naylassa and Kristy Wallace for Rebecca Allen and Oiliva Nelson Ododa
How many Guards? CC, Grace, Kelsey & Lexie
She is a 5'11" guard. The Fever already has great guards, and you don't go after bench players when you need a forward.
The Fever needs to replace NaLyssa Smith with a a good forward that can play defense and who wants to be there.
How many minutes would she get backing up CC and Kelsey?
No, horrible idea.
Dude do you even play basketball?? Just curious
No she's good but not for the Fever, they need more inside help.
This does sound like a good plan.
Noooooooo. End of sentence.
You can't trade a BIG for a guard, especially if you lacking on the bigs department. This is BASKETBALL 101 for management.
That is probably the worst concept to try to do.
It is better to keep Smith at 80k or whatever her final year is than trying to trade her and replace her.
Lastly, Bonner is a FREE AGENT so she's signing where she wants to.
Sign a big in free agency... Smith starting at the 4 means the fever have a peak of 4th/5th seed
@@MickTalksHoops No one wants Smith, Berger, Max contract, bro... The Fever just have alot of bad players, really they only have 3 great players, Lexie Hull, Caitlin Clark, Kelsey Mitchell
@@MickTalksHoops Who would they even sign that is feasible for them?
If you're looking at Howard, then that's the only variable but again that's basically the same thing as KLS last year--overpaid 1 year rental.
Nobody even knows if Howard will even take that deal--she's got options around the league and could take less as well. If they can't get a big, then they're basically stuck with Smith. I don't see them having many options:
Hines-Allen isn't going there.
Thomas isn't.
BG isn't.
Satou and Howard are their two prime candidates.
Briona Jones doesn't help them, and honestly would be a bigger waste of money than just paying a max for Howard at this point.
The next option down the list is basically a player that's probably worse than Smith is at double the price tag. They'd be better off just drafting and starting a PF or something than hoping for a "player" outside of the big fish on the market.
We can be honest, Fever only got Nneka, Howard, Satou, and maybe trading for some PF that is on the trading block out of one of these teams with too much cap space. Everything else is basically 150k to 180k and overpaying them because they'll fail to make any impact and panic after missing out on others.
@@paulgreegs2734 Aliyah Boston isn't one of their great players? Wow.
@@MickTalksHoops Looking at the top 15 forwards last year, scoring averages:
Copper - can't get her
Stewie - can't get her
Collier - can't get her
Satou - maybe?
Natasha Howard - maybe?
Hamby - can't get her
Nneka - doubt she's going to sign with them
Bonner - basically PHX now
[AB is here, but she's their center]
Briona Jones - Basically a worser version of Boston, so it doesn't help them at all.
Angel - Can't get her
Rickea - Can't get her
Carrington - She won't join them
Laney-Hamilton - She's under contract
Austin - WAS probably doesn't trade
Ezi - SEA definitely isn't trading her at all.
Alyssa Thomas was already traded to PHX
Nalyssa Smith would rank here in the top 20 of eligible players.
Next player after her is Gabby Williams, but she's undersized for PF.
Literally every player in the top 35 is basically taken except Izzy Harrison and she'll probably sign with CON now that Cloud is there.
Fever are banking on one of the following three options:
1) Satou
2) Howard
3) a random event involving Nneka or Jones or something like that.
I don't see them benefiting unless they get either Satou or Nneka to join them. If they basically sign Howard, then they don't even have a reason to trade Smith anyway. She's more valuable just being a top 20-caliber forward off the bench for them than sending her to another team and helping improve them because teams have no reason to even trade anything for her since she's a free agent next year and definitely won't be back in INDY.
They don't really have many "options" available unless they find a SUPERSTAR rookie in the draft somehow for a third year straight or something.