Ziptie the suspension and make it squat. Helps with the rollover and keeps more stable. Basically get the chassis as low to the ground as possible to where the lower arms on all 4 sides are level with the chassis. STABLE as ever, with just enough suspension travel left. And foam grip tires help a lot. They are more forgiving. Hope you hit that 100mph!!
Finished my conversion today, will be taking it out tomorrow hopefully on 2 & 3S, i just used parts from some other RC's i wasn't using so I'll see how it goes!
Watching the Wl toys buggy on video looked even faster than 76 mph . It looked like it was tracking nice and straight and pretty stable . That was pretty impressive Phil . Cool video.
Litterally just bought one of these cause of you're reviews can't wait to receive it, got it for £54 free delivery from AliExpress, and just got hold of my first Carrera Mario kart to convert to brushless, thankyou so much for you're inspiration to do these mate, love you're builds and content so much mate, keep up the good work dude
Well... we held the record (on RUclips at least) for 1 day and 20 hours.. 😅😅 Well done Phil! 49mph is now the sped to beat! The time we get around to doing it again either you or rcclan would have reach 100mph I'm sure of it! 🍻
Yay I got the speed right. Can't believe it went that fast, what with the problems you were having. Should fly once you've sorted the servo and tyre issues. 👍
This may indeed be relatively "cheap", but I clicked here to see cheap "stock" or out-of-the-box RC cars, not mod-ed ones. Thumbnail should read cheapest & best MOD-ED RC cars. That being said, I really love the variety your channel offers and your awesome videography! : ) Please keep in mind, not everyone buys motors, ESC's and wheels galore to get "cheap".
@@TomleyRC True that! However, I still stand by the thumbnail change, and really appreciate all that you do to bring us some of the best RC content to be had anywhere!
@@noice9709 Yeah I see what you are saying. However... even changing the title... these still are the cheapest RCs you can buy for Speed Runs. Cheers for the support dude 😎👍
@@TomleyRC nice I like you honesty bud needs to be set in stone now then mate but it good you got a good speed up there as it moves us all on to round 2 now
I’m surprised you got a reply off him mate must be racist 🤷♂️ I love his videos subscribed but never commented, followed his Instagram to show support. Asked him one question on there and he just reads and ignores can only be that he can see my face
@@christianjones111 I doubt he is racist mate I only have 2k subs an I struggle to reply to everyone mate so I imagine it's bloody hard to get to everyone when you have 35k subs mate
With the high profile square body on that little truck there will be a huge vacuum on the downwind side of the truck at that speed in that much crosswind. The vacuum will just drag it over. It’s basically giving lateral “lift” straight to the side. Still a really fun video.
@@TomleyRC For sure! Making fast stuff fast is nice, but absurd projects are just inherently more fun trying to make something work, that really shouldn't. RC Clan was all on about "not too many rules, but you have to keep the body"...Im starting to think at this point you should drop the body onto a boat shell, and run that at 100MPH. I dont remember hearing "on land" anywhere ;)
If you put that 6200kv into your sg 918 max 1/16 scale i am sure running it on a smooth road you would easily hit 40 mph on cheap 2000 15c mjx 2s battery..that battery fits perfect...not sure 3s is a good idea though...but as long as you were on a good surface and used good throttle management maybe 60 mph is possible..but that sucker electronics would be very hot...maybe change to a better esc and add a heat sink plus a fan and temps would be much lower... my 918 does not bounce or hit chassis even with it fiction shocks...add oil filled shocks and you will have the best performance from 1/16 scale road car...the chassis on sg918 is rock solid and car goes straight as an arrow 40 mph stock with 1000mah 3s
nice one mate, i am now doing speed run using a Maverick Strada Tc, early days with it, and a person i know has just clocked a gps speed of a nudge over 80MPH with a modded FTX Bansai drift, seems speed running is growing
I am still waiting for my 1603. I messed up, I ordered just as the Chinese new year started and these little drift cars were also out of stock. Hopefully in the next month. I have that CEN Fiat body so either try it on this chassis or try and find a K drift chassis.
How do you change the gear of the motor. That’s the only thing I don’t understand with this conversions to brushless motors. Do you need other gears for it and how do you know which one? Greets
@@TomleyRC this is tue lol u still aint shown us the chassis of the 124019 yet ;) haha ...but steering is one of the main issues on it so dont mind helping out in that way lol
Pretty fantastic work, dude! 😃 Too bad you had issues, but I bet it's the servo bugging out when you go up in the throttle! (I've seen it happen before.) Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Also running the same wheels u have on the rear and the stock plastic ones on the front and for some reason that setup makes it super stable and u can keep it in a straight line
You should upgrade the tires on the sg 1603 something beefy that tire looked like it was getting shredded every time you sped off the rims are cool though
@@philiplibby7536 deffo the whole sg1603 wheel with tire is just the rim size of the 144 ...the two things hard to get right with the sg1603 is wheels and shocks lol...
i am trying to go for a speed run aswell and dont want to give away to much on my bulid ....but i can say is the esc from the sg1603 is going into a k989 wltoys 1/28th scale lol
@@TomleyRC no doubt I think it looks fun to alter. Once it’s on sale I may grab one than buy some upgrades. Wish they just would make all these brushless like the SG 1601 pro that’s quick out the box at lease. Brushed nowadays I just don’t understand why
Dear Tomley I have got Surpass Hobby 2440 6080kv motor and surpass hobby kk series 35A ESC. Do you think it's safe to work with 3S LiPo in small 1/18 model?
Haha thanks to you the kiwis did literally hold the record for minutes/hrs and you absolutely smashed it 😂 can’t wait to see which is the faster out the 2 tho neither of you have gotten full speed........yet!!! Keep it up my friend you got this in the bag 👌
U guys need to use some good quality hex extenders with the bolt in the middle to widen that stance and that should lower the car even more and maybe get some weight in that thing
I have getting the Baron Sg 1603 the upgrade with the lipo battery but I've also bought a S3 battery 1800 mah with a graphic sump guard it's a lot faster and a lot more responsive and it was still under £100
A quick calculation shows that the tires on the SG would experience at 10,000g of centripetal acceleration at 100mph. How will they ever stay attached to the rims?
Hey Tom Lee I recently acquired an ECX temper first gen in excellent shape I'm interested in making it a scale crawler what size bodies should I look for to accomplish that
Slightly off subject of your video, but still RC. When I was a kid my first RC car was a ford gt40 kyosho 4x4 driven by belts from a nitro engine. I've been trying to find one of these original kits, are they really hen's teeth? And if you know exact what kit that was it would help. Thanks.
This Rc with slicks is so amazingly CRAZY. It goes top speed in about 1 second! I also have the best moter I can find and I have a much better battery and just with those it’s absolutely crazy and I was able to go 47 MPH
I’d really like to see a challenge to make the ZD racing Rocket S16 Porsche go 100 mph. I like the it but it’s certainly underwhelming when it comes to top speed.
I bet you the first person to add a gyro to this will be the next to take the record. Seems a little mechanical tweaking to the steering camber and a gyro to keep this little thing straight will be the key to finding full throttle
@@TomleyRC Sometimes it will if the gains are to high. Being a small car at those speeds it wont take much stabilization, but once you get it dialed in it should hold straight. I think you will be the the guy to put the money on for this one, good luck
Tomley for the record 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👊🏻 I cant remember what i said in your post about first run speed to win one of your shirts , it was either 43 or 44 mph i cant find it now 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
@@TomleyRC my bad i thought the very first measured run 🙈 I'll just have to buy one 🤣.. If only these cars where more stable at speed ,they seem to struggle soon as they hit the 40mph mark , You've got this unofficial speed run in the bag 👍🏻
im might give it a go, see how you lot get on 1st! haha
Get on it Kevin... you don't need much room for them to get to top speed. 😎👌
Hello kev
I'm sure 8s Steve will do it.
@@MsFrankc8 556
Do it
Ziptie the suspension and make it squat. Helps with the rollover and keeps more stable. Basically get the chassis as low to the ground as possible to where the lower arms on all 4 sides are level with the chassis. STABLE as ever, with just enough suspension travel left. And foam grip tires help a lot. They are more forgiving. Hope you hit that 100mph!!
Finished my conversion today, will be taking it out tomorrow hopefully on 2 & 3S, i just used parts from some other RC's i wasn't using so I'll see how it goes!
Look forward to seeing what you get mate 👍
Also looking forward bro excited what you get 🦾🏎💯😁
Watching the Wl toys buggy on video looked even faster than 76 mph . It looked like it was tracking nice and straight and pretty stable . That was pretty impressive Phil . Cool video.
Yes, it's dialled in really well. No stability either... so even nicer that it's well planted
Ual Muito lindo like RC CARS Brasil
WOW! Topman!!! - thanks for the praise :) ...and yes, WLToys 144001 is in the works along with Traxxas slash drag cars!!!!!!!! #arrmaskinz
Awesome! Love them, and so many to choose from!.... I need one for my 'Street' Mojave... 😎
There's definitely more in both of them, ludicrous speed Phil that's why we do what we do, it's addictive
Yes... very addictive!
Litterally just bought one of these cause of you're reviews can't wait to receive it, got it for £54 free delivery from AliExpress, and just got hold of my first Carrera Mario kart to convert to brushless, thankyou so much for you're inspiration to do these mate, love you're builds and content so much mate, keep up the good work dude
Cheers Adam. You’ll enjoy it I am sure 😎👌
Well... we held the record (on RUclips at least) for 1 day and 20 hours.. 😅😅 Well done Phil! 49mph is now the sped to beat! The time we get around to doing it again either you or rcclan would have reach 100mph I'm sure of it! 🍻
Haha... well you could argue you had the cleaner run. I’ll be back for a solid run in a few weeks
I got 56mph today!!!
Yay I got the speed right.
Can't believe it went that fast, what with the problems you were having. Should fly once you've sorted the servo and tyre issues. 👍
Well done mate... send me an email (address is on my 'about' tab) or message me on insta or Facebook.
This may indeed be relatively "cheap", but I clicked here to see cheap "stock" or out-of-the-box RC cars, not mod-ed ones. Thumbnail should read cheapest & best MOD-ED RC cars. That being said, I really love the variety your channel offers and your awesome videography! : ) Please keep in mind, not everyone buys motors, ESC's and wheels galore to get "cheap".
Over 90mph with a £35 Motor & £40 ESC... I’d say that is pretty Cheap 😎👌
@@TomleyRC True that! However, I still stand by the thumbnail change, and really appreciate all that you do to bring us some of the best RC content to be had anywhere!
@@noice9709 Yeah I see what you are saying. However... even changing the title... these still are the cheapest RCs you can buy for Speed Runs. Cheers for the support dude 😎👍
@@TomleyRC You're very welcome! I might just have to buy and mod that model like you did and have some speed run fun
Both cars looking FAST! Plenty of potential in the SG, Woo Hoo!
Yes, more to come from both!
3S and 40-odd mph on plastic diffs, with a tire coming unglued and catching the bodywork? Pretty good testament to the durability of the SG!
Yes... and it still pulled 49mph with a blown tyre!
Yeah! I'm impressed aswell
Heyyyyyyyy very nice 49 mph to beat now well done buddy
'Unofficial'... I mean it wasn't the cleanest of runs lol.
@@TomleyRC nice I like you honesty bud needs to be set in stone now then mate but it good you got a good speed up there as it moves us all on to round 2 now
I’m surprised you got a reply off him mate must be racist 🤷♂️ I love his videos subscribed but never commented, followed his Instagram to show support. Asked him one question on there and he just reads and ignores can only be that he can see my face
@@christianjones111 I doubt he is racist mate I only have 2k subs an I struggle to reply to everyone mate so I imagine it's bloody hard to get to everyone when you have 35k subs mate
@@rcclan I understand what your saying mate hopefully not. That’s why I messaged on insta where he has 1k followers ohh well 👍
With the high profile square body on that little truck there will be a huge vacuum on the downwind side of the truck at that speed in that much crosswind. The vacuum will just drag it over. It’s basically giving lateral “lift” straight to the side.
Still a really fun video.
Yes, it’s not really designed to go fast haha
Good crack at it! Thx for putting in the time to entertain us on this ridiculous SG1603 project haha..good fun.
Cheers Boris.... I love making things go fast that shouldn't haha
@@TomleyRC For sure! Making fast stuff fast is nice, but absurd projects are just inherently more fun trying to make something work, that really shouldn't.
RC Clan was all on about "not too many rules, but you have to keep the body"...Im starting to think at this point you should drop the body onto a boat shell, and run that at 100MPH. I dont remember hearing "on land" anywhere ;)
What body are you using on the 124019? Thanks for any info!! Love your vids Sir!!
ooooo the thumbnail police are going to hate this one! LOL Great video. Love this car! best thing to happen to the sub $100 market since the 124019
Standard haha.... Cheers dude
If you put that 6200kv into your sg 918 max 1/16 scale i am sure running it on a smooth road you would easily hit 40 mph on cheap 2000 15c mjx 2s battery..that battery fits perfect...not sure 3s is a good idea though...but as long as you were on a good surface and used good throttle management maybe 60 mph is possible..but that sucker electronics would be very hot...maybe change to a better esc and add a heat sink plus a fan and temps would be much lower... my 918 does not bounce or hit chassis even with it fiction shocks...add oil filled shocks and you will have the best performance from 1/16 scale road car...the chassis on sg918 is rock solid and car goes straight as an arrow 40 mph stock with 1000mah 3s
Got one of these little beauty's on on order 👍. Also love the Content on the wpl b16 & jjrc trucks just had them delivered 🤪
Cheers mate. WPL's are awesome
I`m gritting my teeth saying congrats to you as i`m routing for my fellow Welshman Phil, LOL.. Thumbs up on your video.
haha... plenty of time yet...:)
Thank information my friend👍😊
Thanks mate
@@TomleyRC you are welcome my friend🙏😊😊👍
nice one mate, i am now doing speed run using a Maverick Strada Tc, early days with it, and a person i know has just clocked a gps speed of a nudge over 80MPH with a modded FTX Bansai drift, seems speed running is growing
Awesome! Speed running is certainly on the rise! I love it
I am still waiting for my 1603. I messed up, I ordered just as the Chinese new year started and these little drift cars were also out of stock. Hopefully in the next month. I have that CEN Fiat body so either try it on this chassis or try and find a K drift chassis.
I’d be interested to see the CEN body on one of the chassis’ 😎
How do you change the gear of the motor. That’s the only thing I don’t understand with this conversions to brushless motors. Do you need other gears for it and how do you know which one? Greets
Its the setbacks that make the victories taste so sweet...
Very true 😎
Yes nice job 👍
wltoys 124/144 servo arms/rod ;) all i am saying keeping my bulid close to my hearty atm ;) nice run mr coffee man
Yes...never give away all of your secrets! I learn't the hard way haha
@@TomleyRC this is tue lol u still aint shown us the chassis of the 124019 yet ;) haha ...but steering is one of the main issues on it so dont mind helping out in that way lol
Might be getting a little front end light at speed and that the little bit of cross wind was getting under it.
Yes agree
Cool video,my esc just went on mine. To upgrade the motor do I need a new esc and a capatable servo?
Pretty fantastic work, dude! 😃
Too bad you had issues, but I bet it's the servo bugging out when you go up in the throttle! (I've seen it happen before.)
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I think the wheels were going to full lock and flipping it. New build coming soon 😎
Also running the same wheels u have on the rear and the stock plastic ones on the front and for some reason that setup makes it super stable and u can keep it in a straight line
Rc arrma outcast rc drift ford f150 aka Ken block!!!!!!! Drift monster truck!!!
뭐야!! 코로나 주의!!! 드리프트 스피드속도
좋아!!
Can you do a conversion from 4 wheel drive to a rear wheel drive on an sg1604. Would love to see how it performs
@Tomley I want a chassis skin for my WL Toys 144001 I can't find any on that website?
They are coming soon
Very nice run there best one yet
Thanks mate
@@TomleyRC you welcome 👍 😁
Makes me think I should get one of them brushless systems also for mine 🤪
You should upgrade the tires on the sg 1603 something beefy that tire looked like it was getting shredded every time you sped off the rims are cool though
Could you put some foam tires on the truck? If possible, I'm sure it would help.
I found out with the servos u have to aline them like a car if u put a new on on
very cool mate ive have the chassis sticker on my senton from arrmaskinz😎😊🇬🇧🤟👊👍
They are awesome aren't they
I heard the 144 wheel hexes will work on this truck for more tire options sounds good but not 💯 percent sure
the hex fit but the wheels are 3x the size as stock lol
@@andyroo8uk685 aww yea that could be a problem 😂
@@philiplibby7536 deffo the whole sg1603 wheel with tire is just the rim size of the 144 ...the two things hard to get right with the sg1603 is wheels and shocks lol...
i am trying to go for a speed run aswell and dont want to give away to much on my bulid ....but i can say is the esc from the sg1603 is going into a k989 wltoys 1/28th scale lol
@@andyroo8uk685nice that's awsome I'll be tuning in for sure thanks man and stay safe
Can you please tell me the motor name because I’m trying to buy one like that
Good job!!! Why you don't use gyro? Maybe more stable and faster?
Yeah, maybe next time haha
These cars handle worse at speed with the gyro working
Great cars looks very nice challenging!! Great vid Bro!!
Thanks mate
I have hit at least 50 with mine. 540 brushless can mount from 595b and gears. Even with gyro and wheel spacers its hard as heck to keep on 4 wheels
That WLTOYS rips man I kind of want to play around with one now.
It's rapid isn't it!
@@TomleyRC no doubt I think it looks fun to alter. Once it’s on sale I may grab one than buy some upgrades. Wish they just would make all these brushless like the SG 1601 pro that’s quick out the box at lease. Brushed nowadays I just don’t understand why
That is a really nice speed run road
Dear Tomley I have got Surpass Hobby 2440 6080kv motor and surpass hobby kk series 35A ESC. Do you think it's safe to work with 3S LiPo in small 1/18 model?
Yes it should be. Although I’d recommend a 60A ESC if you want it to have better performance
@@TomleyRC thanks mate!
Has anyone figured out steel diffs for it? I want to go brushless but wont unless i can get rid of the plastic gears.. thanks a bunch!
What happened to the stability control and the steering reducer
Good runs mate 👌 I'm going to get onto the sg1603 /1604 challenge too 🤞 it's looks so hard to get the little things to stick
Cheers mate. They are so light, and just dance around once you get them going. I think 60mph is doable
Haha thanks to you the kiwis did literally hold the record for minutes/hrs and you absolutely smashed it 😂 can’t wait to see which is the faster out the 2 tho neither of you have gotten full speed........yet!!! Keep it up my friend you got this in the bag 👌
Yes lol... I’d say their run was a little cleaner than mine. So I’d like to record a solid speed on the next run!
@@TomleyRC definitely looking forward to that, keep it up 👌
Really enjoy your videos. Can you recommend a controller that I can use with more then one car that’s not to expensive please.
You can use the DumboRC ones with multiple receivers. They are really cheap, and very good
U guys need to use some good quality hex extenders with the bolt in the middle to widen that stance and that should lower the car even more and maybe get some weight in that thing
Yeah... a few more tweaks needed
@@TomleyRC maybe some foams and put in the avc receiver from the infraction so maybe it will stay straight
Nice video.
I've changed mine over to brushless, how does the spur gear hold up ?
Also, where can I buy spares from
Gears seem to be holding up ok so far! Spares everywhere
Thats good to know, was worried that would be the first to give up.
Any info as to where ? I've looked and only found aliexpress to have any spares
I have getting the Baron Sg 1603 the upgrade with the lipo battery but I've also bought a S3 battery 1800 mah with a graphic sump guard it's a lot faster and a lot more responsive and it was still under £100
Can someone pls suggest the battery and charger he's using please or one that is compatible with all the hop ups in the video.. Cheers
This car is sooo cool
What kind of springs do you use on the 124019?
They were in my spares bin... so not sure what the are off
Speeed demon. POOWWWEEER
More in it.... need some adaptors for foams ;)
Damn that' thing is quick
Have you swapped to metal gears or are they still stock? (SG model)
All stock
Love your vids
Don't know if u know but the wltoys 27 tooth pinion fits on the 1603 u just gotta flip the motor mount
A quick calculation shows that the tires on the SG would experience at 10,000g of centripetal acceleration at 100mph. How will they ever stay attached to the rims?
Hey Tom Lee I recently acquired an ECX temper first gen in excellent shape I'm interested in making it a scale crawler what size bodies should I look for to accomplish that
Was the wind flipping it or was the servo turning at random??
I think it was the servo
Nice. What's your fastest 10th scale ?
SIDE WIND 🤣🤣 Only joking nice one, your gonna have to wrench on it and over volt it and take the top speed title 👍🏻👍🏻
Haha... I should know it’s a ‘cross wind’... but for some reason my brain wasn’t fully functioning. 😎🤟
i love to see u do a brushless swap on the d12
Soon :)
Slightly off subject of your video, but still RC. When I was a kid my first RC car was a ford gt40 kyosho 4x4 driven by belts from a nitro engine. I've been trying to find one of these original kits, are they really hen's teeth? And if you know exact what kit that was it would help. Thanks.
very durable lil thing too
Yes..takes a few hits!
This Rc with slicks is so amazingly CRAZY. It goes top speed in about 1 second! I also have the best moter I can find and I have a much better battery and just with those it’s absolutely crazy and I was able to go 47 MPH
cool rc and nice speed passes
What upgrades are on the wl toys
I just ordered one of these , what size are the wheels ? I want to change the tires as soon as I get it , cool video by the way
Wow cool video💯💯😍😍
Did you get to try turning off the LVC?
I forgot to take my program card... so it was a bit of a fail. Still more testing to do
I’d really like to see a challenge to make the ZD racing Rocket S16 Porsche go 100 mph. I like the it but it’s certainly underwhelming when it comes to top speed.
I predicted 47 xD good runs
That 1256819936 is ballistic!!! And dear god, why don't they give them names!!!! 🤣👍🏻
Haha
where did you buy 124019 wheel
link plz
wow that looks like a you could be in with a good chance bud :) looks like more in the 2 of them 😀👍
Nice video mate
Cheers Nick
What esc you use in rc baron
We up for this challenge
I bet you the first person to add a gyro to this will be the next to take the record. Seems a little mechanical tweaking to the steering camber and a gyro to keep this little thing straight will be the key to finding full throttle
Sometimes a Gyro makes it worse, but I have plans for the next run :)
@@TomleyRC Sometimes it will if the gains are to high. Being a small car at those speeds it wont take much stabilization, but once you get it dialed in it should hold straight. I think you will be the the guy to put the money on for this one, good luck
Gourami fish eat mice, would you like one 😁
can i put any battery into the wltoys?
Great 👍👍👍
Great runs regardless 👍🍻
Thanks mate
If anyone is seeing this now. J Concept has skins for a lot of the race chassis. I know associated has skins for their chassis.
Man that's gonna be incredibly hard to get close to 100. Put on a trailer behind something fast, x😄😅😂😆🤣
Haha... tow it with my Limitless
@@TomleyRC now that would be funny, I got it to 100mph stock guys, 😄😅😂😆🤣
How did nothing break and fly to bits? on the first one. The second sounds like €%¥
haha... just luck I guess!
what radio on sg??? gyro?
Standard Dumbo RC... no gyro
Not sure if it's just me, but the kiwi's link isn't working
Tomley for the record 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👊🏻
I cant remember what i said in your post about first run speed to win one of your shirts , it was either 43 or 44 mph i cant find it now 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
49 was the magic number for this run :)
@@TomleyRC my bad i thought the very first measured run 🙈 I'll just have to buy one 🤣..
If only these cars where more stable at speed ,they seem to struggle soon as they hit the 40mph mark ,
You've got this unofficial speed run in the bag 👍🏻
Noice I'll probably get one
Can I fit a rocket to mine? Is any power plant acceptable? :-)
Well... if you can keep it on the ground with a rocket attached to it... I’m not going to argue it lol