"Can you find biblical evidence for whatever it is that you're trying to obey..." (my heart already dropped here) "...that does not demand layers and layers of extrapolation" (ooh... hmmm?) It's defo something I need to think about. Thanks for this suggestion! 😊
This was helpful, especially the lady who thought she had to give up her favorite chapstick. I’m retired and enjoy volunteering with hospice house, but I also enjoy crafting. I know God wants us to have joy, but I stress over being allowed to do that. It’s almost as if I am choosing a craft project over God.
I'm glad it was helpful. Yes, many people with scrupulosity could "fill in the blank" with whatever they feel pressured to give up. Crafting is just one of many things I've heard!
I've found the concept of substantial compliance from contract law to be closer to how God describes obedience. Criminal law isn't nearly as good a fit for how popular it is to think about.
This comment from a brilliant lawyer totally goes over my head. :D I always benefit from any correspondence we've had, so please feel free to elaborate on this concept for those of us not versed in legal jargon!
@@jaimieeckert Ah, yes - I was trying to be concise for once! Let's say you hire me to edit your videos. You and I sign a contract saying what services I provide and how much you will pay. There will probably be a lot of things like deadlines, communication expectations, pay rate and how it will be delivered...all the stuff necessary to put us in a business relationship. If I submit an edited video 5 minutes past a deadline, or if you submit your payment 5 minutes past a deadline, either of us has technically breached the contract. But absent the most bizarre circumstance, that isn't a *material* or *substantial* breach, and courts wouldn't give us any damages off that. They'd go, "where's the harm?" We are in substantial compliance with our contract because we are delivering the things in the contract. Now, being weeks late, or chronically missing deadlines - there's an argument that damages have occurred, to your business or my bank account. But until those damages show up, we generally will be viewed as substantially compliant with - compliant with the substance of - the contract. God has made a covenant with His people. To the extent a covenant is a special type of contract, that's where I'm pulling from. Just as it would be unwarranted for me to be harsh with you if you missed a payment by 5 minutes, I think it's unwarranted to assume God is waiting to be that harsh for every violation of His contract with us. Many breaches of that covenant hurt ourselves and hurt others; those would be more on the material/substantial side of damage. Others have no obvious damages. And while we shouldn't try to lessen our compliance with the terms of the covenant, I think this is close to John's characterization of some sins as not leading to death. God doesn't like them, and we should want fewer of them, but He isn't interested in terminating our contract, or writing us out of His will. And all of that is very far away from thinking of God as wanting to put us in spiritual prison over it. Covenant/contract talk shows up far more often for the Christian relationship than any other kind of legal description. Does that help at all?
"Can you find biblical evidence for whatever it is that you're trying to obey..." (my heart already dropped here)
"...that does not demand layers and layers of extrapolation" (ooh... hmmm?)
It's defo something I need to think about. Thanks for this suggestion! 😊
This was helpful, especially the lady who thought she had to give up her favorite chapstick. I’m retired and enjoy volunteering with hospice house, but I also enjoy crafting. I know God wants us to have joy, but I stress over being allowed to do that. It’s almost as if I am choosing a craft project over God.
I'm glad it was helpful. Yes, many people with scrupulosity could "fill in the blank" with whatever they feel pressured to give up. Crafting is just one of many things I've heard!
thank you for doing this video!
You're welcome!
I've found the concept of substantial compliance from contract law to be closer to how God describes obedience. Criminal law isn't nearly as good a fit for how popular it is to think about.
This comment from a brilliant lawyer totally goes over my head. :D I always benefit from any correspondence we've had, so please feel free to elaborate on this concept for those of us not versed in legal jargon!
@@jaimieeckert Ah, yes - I was trying to be concise for once!
Let's say you hire me to edit your videos. You and I sign a contract saying what services I provide and how much you will pay. There will probably be a lot of things like deadlines, communication expectations, pay rate and how it will be delivered...all the stuff necessary to put us in a business relationship.
If I submit an edited video 5 minutes past a deadline, or if you submit your payment 5 minutes past a deadline, either of us has technically breached the contract. But absent the most bizarre circumstance, that isn't a *material* or *substantial* breach, and courts wouldn't give us any damages off that. They'd go, "where's the harm?" We are in substantial compliance with our contract because we are delivering the things in the contract.
Now, being weeks late, or chronically missing deadlines - there's an argument that damages have occurred, to your business or my bank account. But until those damages show up, we generally will be viewed as substantially compliant with - compliant with the substance of - the contract.
God has made a covenant with His people. To the extent a covenant is a special type of contract, that's where I'm pulling from. Just as it would be unwarranted for me to be harsh with you if you missed a payment by 5 minutes, I think it's unwarranted to assume God is waiting to be that harsh for every violation of His contract with us. Many breaches of that covenant hurt ourselves and hurt others; those would be more on the material/substantial side of damage. Others have no obvious damages. And while we shouldn't try to lessen our compliance with the terms of the covenant, I think this is close to John's characterization of some sins as not leading to death. God doesn't like them, and we should want fewer of them, but He isn't interested in terminating our contract, or writing us out of His will.
And all of that is very far away from thinking of God as wanting to put us in spiritual prison over it. Covenant/contract talk shows up far more often for the Christian relationship than any other kind of legal description.
Does that help at all?
That's great, I like that! It sure makes sense!
I think that married lady needs a divorce. She must be feeling soo much worst then her husband.