Yo Pete I know you dont remember, but we did a meet in London, KY together back in like 2014 and you asked to warm up with me. You also were cheering me on for my 3rd pull that I PR'd on. You are my favorite lifter of all time and I just wanted to let ya know that is probably the greatest moment Ive had lifting. I still think about it every time I max. Glad to see you doing so well in life, brother. You deserve nothing but the best. 🤙🏻
Thank you so much buddy! I remember that London meet and it feels like a million years ago now! I hope you've been well and I appreciate the kind words!
Week 5 on Tren, sust and winstrol. Honestly, the rage is real, insomnia is real, sex drive while on Tren is definitely out of this world. (Made me realize that probably porn stars are on gear) Definitely ruined my long lasting relationship but made me realize my worth as a man. The bad side effects was that my heart beat would go crazy at night and hands would get numbed. I’ve fear that I would have a heart attack. After I’m done with this 12 week cycle definitely taking a long break from PEDs.
Thanks for sharing. I tend to wake up middle of night with numb hands without any gear, feels fucking scary like as if it died, can't feel it can't move it.
@@demoncore5342 Pins and needles? Could just be a pinched nerve in your elbows tbh. If you sleep with your elbows bent, like with your hands up by your head/neck, that's probably all it is.
@@yewtewbstew547 Sorta, can't feel or move em when it happens. First time it was like proper scary, but daft as it is, I figured it's not something serious as it kept on repeating.
In competing with other power lifters it was hard to except why my gains came so much slower . Why many others suddenly shot ahead by hundreds of pounds . Many would show me workout programs that showed 50 , 60 pound gains in a week . I eventually realized many were using steroids. I did eventually become a a State Champion but it was a long time coming. Many of the power lifters who eventually told me the truth have past away. I think the steroids cut short their lives . I am now 67 and still do power lift movements to maintain my strength. Thank you Peter for telling it like it is and what a price you pay to get to a world class level . New Mexico , L.S.
When you are on tren you don't want to hear any negative things said about it, but when you go off it and have a clear mind you will never touch it again, i wish people would listen and not touch it
I am doing 200mg Test Cypionate, 10mg Anavar, 25mg Dinabol (every other day), and 50mg Tren Acetate twice a week, sometimes only once. I feel that if you go really low on it you'll get a sufficiently positive extra boost in your lifts and muscle mass growth while taking care of your liver and blood panel. Doing more than 100mg a week is not bearable.
hey brosta i am a old bodybuilder from the 80s era , and you are so on point with the TRUTH about this and i respect you to the fullest for coming out and just talking real life on this topic because i can relate to this 100% GOOD JOB !!! most guys just kidding themselves .....
Relationship/Personality killer is correct *I've brewed tren with and Without heat, both came out darker. Idk if it has more to do with the raws or what. I did notice when the raws showed up, I could smell the tren through the double layer of plastic bags it was wrapped in... It literally smelled like straight cocaine. Definitely could smell the potency of the compound. Pete is right, it's not to be trifled with
@@barryward8655 what do you mean overtime? The brewing process took like 20 minutes. The none heated version took all day, only because i let it sit in the BB all day until dissolved then added BA. So what are you talking about with your 'over time' thing?
@@fresh0678 Tren prepared correctly should be a light yellowish color. If your Tren is a dark rust color then you prepped it incorrectly of your mats are sub par. However. if Tren sits long enough the oxidation process is inevitable and it will turn darker. I've used darkened Tren with no ill effects, FWI.
@@barryward8655 yeah I've used many different shades of tren. And I didn't say it was rust color, I'm saying the heat process didn't make it darker or not. And I didn't use mats.
Appreciate the video. It was nice to hear someone’s actual experience. The biggest sides I struggled with were hot flashes, sweating, increased aggression, trashed cardio. Still the strength gains were unparalleled.
I get some weird side effects from tren… rather than aggression outside the gym I felt like I needed constant reassurance and anxiety went through the roof But the worst side effect I got by far Was heart burn … killer
Great video. Great insight. I did 2 cycles of Tren years ago. Midway through my 2nd Tren/ test run I turned gray (no exaggeration) and had brain fog and dizziness at work and ended up in the ER with a BP of 190/130. Threw the rest of my Tren away and never touched it again. Stay the fuck away from this compound.
I'm shocked Pete doesn't have 250k subs... Let alone not having 100k.... I'm sorry Pete we've failed you. We don't deserve the deadlift smashimg machine. We need pete to hit 100k like yesterday
You are doing great job giving such honest and transparent opinion. I really admire your recent transformation and how mature and responsible you became.
Great video Pete. It seems like we’re moving away from the drug-focused craze of the past few years spurred on by MorePlatesMoreDates (no hate to him, it’s good content). I think that’s a great thing, I’m glad people are talking more about training and diet and warning people away from drugs, but I do always love hearing from people who have actually been around the block with this stuff, and your brutal honestly and off the cuff style makes it even more fun to watch.
I’m on about to finish my second year of medical school and moving onto rotations this summer. With that said, my speciality will be endocrine. I’m on TRT via the VA. So I decided to go into the lab and formulate a vial of trenbolone Acetate and Trenbolone Enanthate. Used 50 mg of Tren Ace 4 times a week for 2 weeks ( 200 mg per week total), kept a short detailed log book about my experience. It definitely alters the mind, a form of over stimulation to say the least. I felt a change on my thyroid, body temperature, train of thought. In the gym I felt invincible. vascularity was apparent as I was on a caloric deficit. However, the mind did veer to somewhat of a dark place meaning I felt robotic, rested yet untested, over stimulated, a bit of a short edge. After the 2 weeks I was glad it was over. Took a month off and moved onto Trenbolone Enanthate for 4 weeks. Unlike Tren Ace which ‘kicked in’ the next day ( blood work showed that as well), I felt the effects after 7days fall in. It wasn’t near as traumatic as Tren Ace lol. I was injecting 200 mg a week and it was a bit more gradual and manageable. I didn’t feel as over stimulated and edgy as with Tren Ace, however the physical changes where there. I did notice by the 3rd week a bit of anxiety as compared to Tren Ace where anxiety was immediately felt the flowing day or so. Another difference was, when I stopped Tren Ace, I felt somewhat normal after day 2 or so where Tren Enanthate, it took more or so 14-16 days to feel somewhat back to normal. In my experience, I would say Tren Ace is comparable to a drug such as Meth ( I’ve never used that drug but of course ive seen patients in the ER coming in from the use of Meth and I could relate to them after using Tren Ace lol). In conclusion, I find Tren Ace to be extremely dangerous not only for the heart, but mentally it doesn’t alter the mind. In these short experiments, the did negatively impact the blood work in many key areas. Can only imagine the damage/impact of long term use.
TRENS THE ONLY THING THAT EVER TOUCHED MY HAIR...USED TO HAVE SUPER THICK HAIR.I STILL HAVE A FULL HEAD OF HAIR THANK GOD BUT IT DEFINITELY DOES A NUMBER ON YOUR SCALP HAIR.
I haven't watched your videos since I messed my back up deadlifting a few years back. It bummed me out too much watching deadlifters knowing I couldn't lift. Ironically, I just had a laminectomy to fix cuada equina syndrome last month and I've been watching lifting videos during my recovery in a rehab facility. Super pumped watching your videos again, bro. Fucking crazy, your voice sounds WAY different to me now. Glad to see you doing the healthy thing! You're the man, Pete!
Hello Pete, greetings from Serbia. Let's play a hypothetical game. If you ever had a chance to break a world record in deadlift, but you were very close to doing it, and the only way to make it happen is to jump on Tren for a short time again, would you do it?
First cycle I did of tren I tapered up to 400mg aweek... bad idea only lasted 5 weeks. All my past came back as if it happened yesterday to the point I would dream about it. I would wake up so angry/depressed I couldn't get back to sleep so would go for a drive to cool off. I missed work heeps because of bad anxiety and I almost quit. Towards the 5 week mark I was planning on doing some real bad things that would of landed me 20 plus years in jail. So I had to stop. Other cycles havnt been as bad just need to remember that past things may consume you and you have to just embrace it and remain calm.
I’ve ran tren 5 or 6 times, I’m 29, been on gear since I was 20. This is spot on, everhthjng Pete says here is real. Steroids aren’t worth it. Im coming off in a similar fashion, might stay on trt might try and recover naturally.😊
I have a life long health issue with too much adrenaline. I got one of my adrenal glands removed but It didn't really help. My blood pressure has been crazy even when I was a child. And my hands are shaky. My strength has always been above average and lots of ppl think im on steroids but I'm natty. I can relate to the paranoia but since I've delt with it from childhood I can 100% control my temper even if it feel like the world is falling apart.
I know of what you are saying in this video from the bodybuilding side, I have been using tren for years pre-contest, but don't have many of the sides most people do. Yes I know many form the power lifting side from West Side in Ohio and it's about 50/50 on the sides. So my guess is it may be person to person??? Thanks for the good content!!!
Never gonna run tren again. You don’t realize it makes you a different person until hindsight. You think “oh I’m not one of those people” until you look back and realize you made much different decisions than you normally would. Not to mention too much aggression can mess you up more than help in terms of screwing up technique. The trensomnia is terrible too. For anyone that refuses to not run tren I’d suggest at least trying MENT instead. In my experience much less noticeable sides with comparable if not better strength gains. Granted that’s not talking about health side effects. Tren isn’t worth it imo, there are better alternatives. The best option is to stay natural if that’s an option. If you’re like me and put on TRT for a legitimate reason and have to compete untested and decide to go full boar and blast for comps, still don’t do tren.
i truly have zero aggression on tren regardless of dose. my issues with tren only involve major stomach problems like nonstop nausea all day, frequent feeling of vomiting, constant cough that comes and goes but can last days, and inability to eat food unless it’s a piece of candy or something.
When I was in my mid 20s I was able to run 400mg of tren enth no issues whatsoever. I recently gave it another go at age 29, 200mg of enth a week. The mental sides were another level, anxiety to the max. Stopped within 3 weeks. No reason to be running tren if you aren't stepping on a stage or platform. The insomnia and mental sides make it counter productive in some cases. For all the young bucks wanting to give it a try.... careful. Much better compounds out there IMO
??? No pretty sure the advice is don't have a gf if ur on tren unless u the most zen mfer on the planet. Risking ur ladies safety and emotional health just for some temporary strength probably ain't worth it.
No you can't fool me I know ppl don't just go on the internet and tell lies!... Btw Not everyone reading it will take it that way. Cuz thats a real justification ppl using tren make
"How Pete Rubish like do you want your title ?" Pete : "Yes" Joke aside, thanks for the video Pete. On a side note I wonder if John Haack takes some tren (I should watch the interview you did with him) cause it would seem a counter exemple as he always seem very calm and chill. That being said, people only shows what they want you to see so he can have those side. But he kinda seems like the exception to the rules you have staded (if he uses it ofc).
I had many of these sides as well on tren. Profuse sweating, insomnia, heavy breathing while sitting, resting pulse about 90, BP around 165/90, anger and depression. But silly strength gains. I would never do it again however.
i have NONE of these side effects. what i do experience seems far worse. i originally was on tren enth for a 23 month straight cycle of often high doses and had no issues til the end of this. i had stomach pains and inability to eat food. i had constant nausea and feeling of throwing up. i stopped for 3 months and did test alone, and was fine.2 months ago i got back into tren (but ace now) and 2 weeks into it all the stomach issues came back but much worse. i cant even brush my teeth without feeling like throwing up (it’s happened). so the current solution has been smoking weed throughout the day, every day, always, just so i can not vomit and so i can actually consume food. so… i believe soon i may be permanently done w tren. this is awful. lol
@Jamie Alexander yes, 23 months straight. it is hard to give a perfectly precise example but here is a brief explanation of what i did and what happened. i was on test enth alone for 9 months and my deadlift went from 485 to 570 during this time. everything went up for strength but i don’t remember specific weights on the others. bench probably went from 315 to 365 during that time. my body weight barely changed. this was 500mg/wk test. body went from 198 to about 206 lbs. after 9 months i did 11 weeks straight of daily anadrol (anywhere from 50-150/day) but it led to stomach issues like inability to eat much food at all. i went from around 206 lbs to nearly 230 in these 11 weeks. strength went up. deadlift was 615x2 around that time. at the exact time i stopped 11 wks of anadrol, i began 300mg/wk tren enth. i did this dose for a long time before finally going to 600 then 900 then eventually 1200 around september 2021 and i deadlifted 655. bench was something like 405 or 415. body weight was something like 230-235. i was working a very physical job and burning off to many calories. after kidney surgery (unrelated to gear, confirmed by surgeon), from stage 2 kidney cancer, i stuck to lower doses of tren enth (maybe 600 mostly) and had a new job at a desk. quickly shot up to 250 lbs early last year. currently i use 750mg test enth and 300-400mg tren ace per week. i easily stay at 255 lbs lean (i’m 6’1) without even trying. i guess this wasn’t really a brief explanation but hopefully it answers most questions
@@ryan-el9er hey you sound like you hurt your liver, kidney or some other organ, get yourself checked please especially if you experience worsening symptoms or yellowing of the skin/eyes or full body itching.
I took tren at like 18 lol. Ended up chasing this guy on the highway. Punched my own cousin. Got in a fight. Cop tried to put my hands behind my back. I just played with him, bringing my hands up like I was doing the y.m.c.a haha Good times !
Hey Pete, I have to thank you for pushing health and saying you would have done things in a much smarter way had you been able to go back and start again. At one point, I was taking upwards of 850mg of Test, 20mg of Sdrol, 100mg Anadrol and 300mg of Tren. It was one of the most stupidest things I have done with my health and still don't understand why I did it, for so little extra gain. I got off for awhile and went back on starting with a modest 500mg of Test, ramping up to 700mg and now I am at 850mg on Week 10. I am stronger than my last cycle and feel 100x better. I have focused on training with even more ferocity and intent than ever, and attribute it to gradually ramping up the Dose, Training Volume, and Food instead of simply taking more drugs when I stall out. I have Anadrol waiting to be used, I don't feel that I even would need to use it for the next 3-4 weeks. I started this cycle with a less is better approach. You were a big part of helping me understand you can go a long way without that much.
@@denzel9455 anadrol blew me up big big big time. Im surprised it didnt do much for pete - pete did you try the turkish pharma anapolon tabs? Just the extra fullness in my triceps, shoulders and traps would add 10-15kg on my bench straight away lmao!
I train hard and don't take any P.E.Ds but thanks for the information bout this Teen I'm still not curious about steroids anyway as I've made it to age 55 with a benchpress of 345 for 3 so my max is very decent and my health is as well but your information should help lots of young people to make positive decisions before they fall into negative consequences.
I did a cycle of tritren,and everything your saying is so tru,its great in the gym but in life its something everybody should think twice before doing it.
Yeah a lot of the kids at skew have been accusing me of using tren. They're just jelly because I have such good genetics and can rep 855 on incline so easily.
When I'm bored I like to bench something easy like 1300, but with bad form and bouncing every rep on my lower sternum and then I don't fully lockout every rep and I just bask in people's seething rage and their whispers of "Tren this tren that" are the best workout music.
Ive ran tren for many cycles, both enanthate and acetate. Dosages up to 400mg p/w. Everything he says is true but ultimately it really varies greatly depending on the person. Yeah I had increased aggression and it felt harder to sleep at times. Sweated a lot more and just felt hot all the time. Definitely was more short tempered and I can see how it can send men over the edge but thankfully I had a solid relationship. Fantastic for the gym but there are certain side effects you need to be aware of. Personally I'll never run it again and everyone I know after years says the same thing: it's just not worth it.
I’ve heard that from more than one Tren user I’ve talked to. Yes, it makes you feel great in the gym. But ultimately, the negatives far outweigh the positives. What Pete said about how people speak about it in awe is totally true, and it’s kinda sad quite honestly. Seems like it’s more of the younger generation.
Thanks for sharing your experience, it's cool to here your perspective now after your own personal experience vs your old video on it. Thanks again, best of luck dude!
I stopped taking creatine many years ago due to the excessive bloating water retention on my face. I don't naturally have a lean face, so creatine makes it worse.
•Tren Enanthate: First Tren ever had at 48 (I know, I know first one should be Tren Acetate) Never felt better mentally and my usual gains. •Tren Acetate: Never tried, don't plan to. •Trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate: 6 different cycles at 6 to 10 weeks long in the last 5.5 years. ~Blood work done at highly reputable Medical University 3x in last 6 years. No health concerns. Hdl/ldl does fluctuate along with slight rise in B.P. All bounce back. ~ALL Tren cycles coupled with Test Enanthate. ~Some heavy night sweats, many bouts of insomnia. ~No weightlifting injuries ever. ~Extremely sexual...be careful, you'll take any and all females and provide the Stud service they are all looking for. Remember and Respect the Unwritten Law Man Code ALWAYS and ONLY see truly single girls/Women. ~Now in mid 50's I use trt baby doses. I use that same dose with Tren weekly when on. Use low doses! I have for 20 years, never looked better. Was natural from 1986 to 2002. 2003 started jabbing. If you are in your 20's or 30's stay natural as long as you can. Save the Test and all roids for later. Other than wanting to rearrange some co-workers' jaws for them and a few well-timed outbursts to a few morons and a tire thumper at my ready on the trucks dash, I've been good to go. ~It is true about your wife or gf...be DANGEROUSLY careful not to hurt her feelings. Thx for video, I've never been compelled to ever write this much. I guess I understand your thoughts and feelings on Tren. I have not given it up but soon.
Pete can you do a backyard meet of the century watch along or review video? It was such an insane line up of OG’s and would be really interesting to see how the numbers rank 10+ years later
It's funny. I took Tren in my 20s and seemed to be more effected psychologically by caffeine supplements than the tren. (and yes it was real, I used different sources and even converted cattle pellets- this was 20 years ago) I took a couple shots later in life and was an all out aggressive psychopath. Needless to say, I threw it out. That was kinda the wake-up call I needed to see that trt (or even generous trt) was good enough and much more conducive to the life I want to create!
tren gives me crazy crazy night sweats. to the point that some nights the sweat will be soaked completely through my matress to the other side! Also because Im sweating and I can't replace the water or electrolytes while sleeping, waking up with cramp in my calves is common. Literally go from sound asleep to throwing myself across the room rolling around on the floor speaking in tounges and swearing 😅 tren is no joke. its a hell of a ride. just got back to training seriously again and ive put 7lbs on in 10 days on my cycle. It will work wonders but you WILL pay a price, wether thats ED, rages, heart problems ... you roll the dice everytime you decide to run it. Im looking at alternatives so I can start harm reduction. Mast Primo NPP looks viable but I won't be experimenting with a replacement for that "tren look" for about another year tho. That would be a video I think alot of people would be interested in seeing. "How to get the tren god look without dancing with the devil" 😅😅😅 stay swole bros
Test, tren, anavar and eq I noticed really good strength and size gains from. Not all at once lol but taking test with each individually separate times.
What I can say from experience is that it is neurotoxic. The higher the androgenicity, the higher the toxicity (in our ciiiittyyyy). It's bad for you. Just stick to test only.
Took tren ace for 3 weeks and jumped off before it ruined my relationship. The jealousy was real and I was even dreaming of her cheating on me. Was fucked up.
Tren Suspension seems to be a solid choice if one wants the aggression/strength from it. (essentially only using it before heavy training as a pre workout) What are your thoughts on using it in such a manner?
I used tren base in my later years and loved it. It's essentially the same thing, it's just oil based as opposed to water based. But I got the aggression for my training session and then it was gone afterward.
Quick input! Tren isn’t bioavailable and your body doesn’t recognize it as much as test it doesn’t bind to hair, or prostate, it’s actually much more selective then test itself, hence prescribed to women originally, thr androgenic to anabolic scale is garbage at this point, tren ace is 87-91% not sure what exactly, Test E is 73%, EQ is 63%,
"Everything irritated me and I just wanted to be left alone" well damn ! That sounds just like me! And I don't even take creatine 😂 gonna have to count me out on the tren
I also got paranoid. I remember a time when I was going to the gym and there was a group of guys standing in a shop doorway and I put my hand in my pocket and got my car key between my knuckle and I remember thinking if they say or start anything I'm going to start taking eyes. This also linked into the aggression because I also remember thinking about doing some horrendous things to people. Though it was all mental as I never actually did anything or had an outburst and I remained social and It didn't change my behaviour or anything beyond my way of thinking. I must also say I met my wife while I was on tren in 2015 and we're still married to this day lol. I use to get vivid nightmares and night sweats too
Don’t get me started on the nightmares , or “Trenmares” as we should call them . Always involving some sort of violence . Even getting them , but to a lesser extent , on Deca . Something about those naughty 19-Nors
I'm more of a Creatine/Caffeine guy these days, but et me know if you guys like this kind of video and would like more like this!
I like all ur videos!
I like these kind of vids, very interesting to learn about
Pete! been watching for long time love your shit bro I'm 34yo and loved test/tren so true!!
How many grams of creatine is your go to
Yeah!
Anavar next.
Real OG followers know 'The truth about tren'
tren makes you gay
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This was the first time I'd ever heard about tren lol
Legit thought he maybe reposted haha!
I had to come back and do a better/more thorough video here!
The title made me laugh immediately 😂 this is gonna be a good one
I hope so!
We need more videos like these pete.
@@PeteRubish loved it, it's like a more nuanced and mature take on your old videos about tren. Nice
Lol
Pete-you’ve become a strong voice of reason among all the confusion-keep making these videos as the information is invaluable
Yes sir, will do! I'll keep the series going!
Bro you motivated me so much back like 10 years ago watching you go crazy screaming while deadlifting massive amounts of weight down in a basement..
Thank you for sticking with me ten years later!
@@PeteRubish the ICONIC washer and dryer!
Yo Pete I know you dont remember, but we did a meet in London, KY together back in like 2014 and you asked to warm up with me. You also were cheering me on for my 3rd pull that I PR'd on. You are my favorite lifter of all time and I just wanted to let ya know that is probably the greatest moment Ive had lifting. I still think about it every time I max.
Glad to see you doing so well in life, brother. You deserve nothing but the best. 🤙🏻
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Dammit Eminem! When I read this, all I could think about was Stan.
@@minoritymind Lol luckily i didnt Stan out 😂.
Thank you so much buddy! I remember that London meet and it feels like a million years ago now! I hope you've been well and I appreciate the kind words!
That was such a pleasant read brother.
Week 5 on Tren, sust and winstrol.
Honestly, the rage is real, insomnia is real, sex drive while on Tren is definitely out of this world. (Made me realize that probably porn stars are on gear)
Definitely ruined my long lasting relationship but made me realize my worth as a man.
The bad side effects was that my heart beat would go crazy at night and hands would get numbed. I’ve fear that I would have a heart attack.
After I’m done with this 12 week cycle definitely taking a long break from PEDs.
Thanks for sharing. I tend to wake up middle of night with numb hands without any gear, feels fucking scary like as if it died, can't feel it can't move it.
100% agree on all fronts
@@demoncore5342 Pins and needles? Could just be a pinched nerve in your elbows tbh. If you sleep with your elbows bent, like with your hands up by your head/neck, that's probably all it is.
@@yewtewbstew547 Sorta, can't feel or move em when it happens. First time it was like proper scary, but daft as it is, I figured it's not something serious as it kept on repeating.
Why would you take such a toxic compound which will most likely cause brain damage
In competing with other power lifters it was hard to except why my gains came so much slower . Why many others suddenly shot ahead by hundreds of pounds . Many would show me workout programs that showed 50 , 60 pound gains in a week . I eventually realized many were using steroids. I did eventually become a a State Champion but it was a long time coming. Many of the power lifters who eventually told me the truth have past away. I think the steroids cut short their lives . I am now 67 and still do power lift movements to maintain my strength. Thank you Peter for telling it like it is and what a price you pay to get to a world class level . New Mexico , L.S.
When you are on tren you don't want to hear any negative things said about it, but when you go off it and have a clear mind you will never touch it again, i wish people would listen and not touch it
I wish I had never used it,addictive for the gains but not good for those around you and mentally I’ve never been the same since
@@scrooge8564 I love Tren maybe I'm just strange. But I have it in every cycle cutting or bulking
I am doing 200mg Test Cypionate, 10mg Anavar, 25mg Dinabol (every other day), and 50mg Tren Acetate twice a week, sometimes only once. I feel that if you go really low on it you'll get a sufficiently positive extra boost in your lifts and muscle mass growth while taking care of your liver and blood panel. Doing more than 100mg a week is not bearable.
hey brosta i am a old bodybuilder from the 80s era , and you are so on point with the TRUTH about this and i respect you to the fullest for coming out and just talking real life on this topic because i can relate to this 100% GOOD JOB !!! most guys just kidding themselves .....
The 100 bpm is what is blowing my mind. That’s my heart rate on the threshold between power walk and jog
THANKS PETE FOR YOUR INSIGHT INTO THE USE OF TREN WE NEED MORE OF THESE VIDOES FROM YOU THANKS AGAIN LOVE YOUR WORK !
Relationship/Personality killer is correct
*I've brewed tren with and Without heat, both came out darker. Idk if it has more to do with the raws or what. I did notice when the raws showed up, I could smell the tren through the double layer of plastic bags it was wrapped in... It literally smelled like straight cocaine. Definitely could smell the potency of the compound. Pete is right, it's not to be trifled with
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The darker rust color is simply caused by oxidation over time.
@@barryward8655 what do you mean overtime? The brewing process took like 20 minutes. The none heated version took all day, only because i let it sit in the BB all day until dissolved then added BA. So what are you talking about with your 'over time' thing?
@@fresh0678 Tren prepared correctly should be a light yellowish color. If your Tren is a dark rust color then you prepped it incorrectly of your mats are sub par. However. if Tren sits long enough the oxidation process is inevitable and it will turn darker. I've used darkened Tren with no ill effects, FWI.
@@barryward8655 yeah I've used many different shades of tren. And I didn't say it was rust color, I'm saying the heat process didn't make it darker or not. And I didn't use mats.
Exactly the same experience plus the added insomnia. Ran it for years I would say 4-5 straight.
It's a wild ride isn't it?
I love an honest person! Great information.
Appreciate the video. It was nice to hear someone’s actual experience. The biggest sides I struggled with were hot flashes, sweating, increased aggression, trashed cardio. Still the strength gains were unparalleled.
I get some weird side effects from tren… rather than aggression outside the gym I felt like I needed constant reassurance and anxiety went through the roof
But the worst side effect I got by far Was heart burn … killer
Tren = Waking up EVERY morning soaking wet from sweat. Literally focking drenched! Great gains tho! 💯
Great video. Great insight. I did 2 cycles of Tren years ago. Midway through my 2nd Tren/ test run I turned gray (no exaggeration) and had brain fog and dizziness at work and ended up in the ER with a BP of 190/130. Threw the rest of my Tren away and never touched it again. Stay the fuck away from this compound.
Thank you for your honesty
Yes sir, thank you for commenting!
I'm shocked Pete doesn't have 250k subs... Let alone not having 100k.... I'm sorry Pete we've failed you. We don't deserve the deadlift smashimg machine. We need pete to hit 100k like yesterday
You are doing great job giving such honest and transparent opinion. I really admire your recent transformation and how mature and responsible you became.
Great video Pete. It seems like we’re moving away from the drug-focused craze of the past few years spurred on by MorePlatesMoreDates (no hate to him, it’s good content). I think that’s a great thing, I’m glad people are talking more about training and diet and warning people away from drugs, but I do always love hearing from people who have actually been around the block with this stuff, and your brutal honestly and off the cuff style makes it even more fun to watch.
i came off AAS 3 months ago after being on for 4-5 years. BEST DECISION I EVER MADE.
@@user-jp7ni5xv1r good luck man, living like the gods intended 💪🏻
@@dennisnordlund902 ngl the first 8 weeks was an anxiety ridden nightmare lol. but now im all good and feel great.
Thank you for the support! There is a definite shift happening, but I figured I might as well share my experiences!
@@user-jp7ni5xv1r why’d you come off
I’m on about to finish my second year of medical school and moving onto rotations this summer. With that said, my speciality will be endocrine. I’m on TRT via the VA. So I decided to go into the lab and formulate a vial of trenbolone Acetate and Trenbolone Enanthate. Used 50 mg of Tren Ace 4 times a week for 2 weeks ( 200 mg per week total), kept a short detailed log book about my experience. It definitely alters the mind, a form of over stimulation to say the least. I felt a change on my thyroid, body temperature, train of thought. In the gym I felt invincible. vascularity was apparent as I was on a caloric deficit. However, the mind did veer to somewhat of a dark place meaning I felt robotic, rested yet untested, over stimulated, a bit of a short edge. After the 2 weeks I was glad it was over. Took a month off and moved onto Trenbolone Enanthate for 4 weeks. Unlike Tren Ace which ‘kicked in’ the next day ( blood work showed that as well), I felt the effects after 7days fall in. It wasn’t near as traumatic as Tren Ace lol. I was injecting 200 mg a week and it was a bit more gradual and manageable. I didn’t feel as over stimulated and edgy as with Tren Ace, however the physical changes where there. I did notice by the 3rd week a bit of anxiety as compared to Tren Ace where anxiety was immediately felt the flowing day or so. Another difference was, when I stopped Tren Ace, I felt somewhat normal after day 2 or so where Tren Enanthate, it took more or so 14-16 days to feel somewhat back to normal. In my experience, I would say Tren Ace is comparable to a drug such as Meth ( I’ve never used that drug but of course ive seen patients in the ER coming in from the use of Meth and I could relate to them after using Tren Ace lol). In conclusion, I find Tren Ace to be extremely dangerous not only for the heart, but mentally it doesn’t alter the mind. In these short experiments, the did negatively impact the blood work in many key areas. Can only imagine the damage/impact of long term use.
Wow that's something to think about
Yeah, I wish I never used it!
Thank you for sharing this!
TRENS THE ONLY THING THAT EVER TOUCHED MY HAIR...USED TO HAVE SUPER THICK HAIR.I STILL HAVE A FULL HEAD OF HAIR THANK GOD BUT IT DEFINITELY DOES A NUMBER ON YOUR SCALP HAIR.
" but mentally it doesn’t alter the mind. " I absolutely disagree with you. Tren fucked with my mind badly.
I haven't watched your videos since I messed my back up deadlifting a few years back. It bummed me out too much watching deadlifters knowing I couldn't lift. Ironically, I just had a laminectomy to fix cuada equina syndrome last month and I've been watching lifting videos during my recovery in a rehab facility. Super pumped watching your videos again, bro. Fucking crazy, your voice sounds WAY different to me now. Glad to see you doing the healthy thing! You're the man, Pete!
Hello Pete, greetings from Serbia. Let's play a hypothetical game. If you ever had a chance to break a world record in deadlift, but you were very close to doing it, and the only way to make it happen is to jump on Tren for a short time again, would you do it?
First cycle I did of tren I tapered up to 400mg aweek... bad idea only lasted 5 weeks. All my past came back as if it happened yesterday to the point I would dream about it. I would wake up so angry/depressed I couldn't get back to sleep so would go for a drive to cool off. I missed work heeps because of bad anxiety and I almost quit. Towards the 5 week mark I was planning on doing some real bad things that would of landed me 20 plus years in jail. So I had to stop. Other cycles havnt been as bad just need to remember that past things may consume you and you have to just embrace it and remain calm.
I’ve ran tren 5 or 6 times, I’m 29, been on gear since I was 20. This is spot on, everhthjng Pete says here is real. Steroids aren’t worth it. Im coming off in a similar fashion, might stay on trt might try and recover naturally.😊
I have a life long health issue with too much adrenaline.
I got one of my adrenal glands removed but It didn't really help.
My blood pressure has been crazy even when I was a child. And my hands are shaky.
My strength has always been above average and lots of ppl think im on steroids but I'm natty.
I can relate to the paranoia but since I've delt with it from childhood I can 100% control my temper even if it feel like the world is falling apart.
Just out of curiosity, have you ever been prescribed clonidine or guanfacine? If so did it help at all?
@@maidenlesstarnished8816 no but I've been on a beta blocker, propranolol since 18 yrs old.
Is your appetite inhibited by said condition?
@@stinkyfinch2627 yeah, I have a lot of trouble eating enough. Mornings are particularly difficult.
Does help to stay lean tho
That's interesting, how do you feel throughout an average day like that?
Respect Brother!
Much Love!!!
Please do a podcast with Derek and talk about peds experience and midigation stategies!
Everything you said lined up exactly with my experience with it, except the tren cough. Luckily never had that
never??? LOL. mannnn tren cough made me question wtf im doing many times.
I know of what you are saying in this video from the bodybuilding side, I have been using tren for years pre-contest, but don't have many of the sides most people do. Yes I know many form the power lifting side from West Side in Ohio and it's about 50/50 on the sides. So my guess is it may be person to person??? Thanks for the good content!!!
Yes sir! It is somewhat person to person dependent but I’d say most people have major sides!
Thank you for your forthrightness and honesty.
Never gonna run tren again. You don’t realize it makes you a different person until hindsight. You think “oh I’m not one of those people” until you look back and realize you made much different decisions than you normally would. Not to mention too much aggression can mess you up more than help in terms of screwing up technique. The trensomnia is terrible too.
For anyone that refuses to not run tren I’d suggest at least trying MENT instead. In my experience much less noticeable sides with comparable if not better strength gains.
Granted that’s not talking about health side effects.
Tren isn’t worth it imo, there are better alternatives.
The best option is to stay natural if that’s an option. If you’re like me and put on TRT for a legitimate reason and have to compete untested and decide to go full boar and blast for comps, still don’t do tren.
i truly have zero aggression on tren regardless of dose.
my issues with tren only involve major stomach problems like nonstop nausea all day, frequent feeling of vomiting, constant cough that comes and goes but can last days, and inability to eat food unless it’s a piece of candy or something.
tren also makes you dumb - it has an affect on the brain. its legit the worst steroid you can run in reality in regards to health.
When I was in my mid 20s I was able to run 400mg of tren enth no issues whatsoever. I recently gave it another go at age 29, 200mg of enth a week. The mental sides were another level, anxiety to the max. Stopped within 3 weeks. No reason to be running tren if you aren't stepping on a stage or platform. The insomnia and mental sides make it counter productive in some cases. For all the young bucks wanting to give it a try.... careful. Much better compounds out there IMO
So what I have taken from this is that Tren + a understanding girlfriend + good blood pressure meds is the true secret combo.
??? No pretty sure the advice is don't have a gf if ur on tren unless u the most zen mfer on the planet. Risking ur ladies safety and emotional health just for some temporary strength probably ain't worth it.
@@dmanzawsome My friend, Allow me to aware you of something - There is a large possibility I am not being entirely serious.
No you can't fool me I know ppl don't just go on the internet and tell lies!...
Btw
Not everyone reading it will take it that way. Cuz thats a real justification ppl using tren make
"How Pete Rubish like do you want your title ?"
Pete : "Yes"
Joke aside, thanks for the video Pete.
On a side note I wonder if John Haack takes some tren (I should watch the interview you did with him) cause it would seem a counter exemple as he always seem very calm and chill. That being said, people only shows what they want you to see so he can have those side. But he kinda seems like the exception to the rules you have staded (if he uses it ofc).
He says he has never used it, so I'm inclined to believe him.
Been watching you forever now. You accomplished a lot bro but I'm super happy to see you healthy and off the gear man still lifting at a high level 🤙
Thanks buddy! It’s been a huge change, but I’m at peace with it all!
I had many of these sides as well on tren. Profuse sweating, insomnia, heavy breathing while sitting, resting pulse about 90, BP around 165/90, anger and depression. But silly strength gains. I would never do it again however.
i have NONE of these side effects. what i do experience seems far worse. i originally was on tren enth for a 23 month straight cycle of often high doses and had no issues til the end of this. i had stomach pains and inability to eat food. i had constant nausea and feeling of throwing up. i stopped for 3 months and did test alone, and was fine.2 months ago i got back into tren (but ace now) and 2 weeks into it all the stomach issues came back but much worse. i cant even brush my teeth without feeling like throwing up (it’s happened). so the current solution has been smoking weed throughout the day, every day, always, just so i can not vomit and so i can actually consume food. so… i believe soon i may be permanently done w tren. this is awful. lol
@@ryan-el9erwhat kind of strength growth did you see
@Jamie Alexander yes, 23 months straight. it is hard to give a perfectly precise example but here is a brief explanation of what i did and what happened. i was on test enth alone for 9 months and my deadlift went from 485 to 570 during this time. everything went up for strength but i don’t remember specific weights on the others. bench probably went from 315 to 365 during that time. my body weight barely changed. this was 500mg/wk test. body went from 198 to about 206 lbs. after 9 months i did 11 weeks straight of daily anadrol (anywhere from 50-150/day) but it led to stomach issues like inability to eat much food at all. i went from around 206 lbs to nearly 230 in these 11 weeks. strength went up. deadlift was 615x2 around that time. at the exact time i stopped 11 wks of anadrol, i began 300mg/wk tren enth. i did this dose for a long time before finally going to 600 then 900 then eventually 1200 around september 2021 and i deadlifted 655. bench was something like 405 or 415. body weight was something like 230-235. i was working a very physical job and burning off to many calories. after kidney surgery (unrelated to gear, confirmed by surgeon), from stage 2 kidney cancer, i stuck to lower doses of tren enth (maybe 600 mostly) and had a new job at a desk. quickly shot up to 250 lbs early last year. currently i use 750mg test enth and 300-400mg tren ace per week. i easily stay at 255 lbs lean (i’m 6’1) without even trying.
i guess this wasn’t really a brief explanation but hopefully it answers most questions
@@leislymejia2864 i just gave a detailed answer to the other guy who asked similar question. check it out
@@ryan-el9er hey you sound like you hurt your liver, kidney or some other organ, get yourself checked please especially if you experience worsening symptoms or yellowing of the skin/eyes or full body itching.
I took tren at like 18 lol. Ended up chasing this guy on the highway. Punched my own cousin. Got in a fight. Cop tried to put my hands behind my back. I just played with him, bringing my hands up like I was doing the y.m.c.a haha Good times !
Thank you for sharing your experience with Tren in an open and honest way!
Thank you for the support!
Hey Pete, I have to thank you for pushing health and saying you would have done things in a much smarter way had you been able to go back and start again. At one point, I was taking upwards of 850mg of Test, 20mg of Sdrol, 100mg Anadrol and 300mg of Tren. It was one of the most stupidest things I have done with my health and still don't understand why I did it, for so little extra gain. I got off for awhile and went back on starting with a modest 500mg of Test, ramping up to 700mg and now I am at 850mg on Week 10. I am stronger than my last cycle and feel 100x better. I have focused on training with even more ferocity and intent than ever, and attribute it to gradually ramping up the Dose, Training Volume, and Food instead of simply taking more drugs when I stall out. I have Anadrol waiting to be used, I don't feel that I even would need to use it for the next 3-4 weeks. I started this cycle with a less is better approach. You were a big part of helping me understand you can go a long way without that much.
I only use 10mg a day... That basically avoids all the side effects while still seeing some decent results.
Been waiting for something to convince me to try it, thanks brother!
this was the most in-depth review on tren I ever watched. thank you
what about anadrol? good video as usual
it can be done
@@PeteRubish in this video u said Anavar was second in strength after tren ?? Over anadrol??
@@bobbysingh3602 anadrol didn't do anything for HIM anavar did however most people will say anadrol or halo are the more powerful tabs to use.
@@denzel9455 anadrol blew me up big big big time. Im surprised it didnt do much for pete - pete did you try the turkish pharma anapolon tabs?
Just the extra fullness in my triceps, shoulders and traps would add 10-15kg on my bench straight away lmao!
Tren is my favorite compound. I take about a gram a week. They say it ruins relationships. I’m like which one?
100% true ☝
200mg/week of tren enanthate boosts my cardio a lot
Im on 900mg of test and i noticed that myself and i never really do cardio.. i can do 2-3 hours straight a day on the stairclimber
Awesome video, thanks for sharing your experience.
Thank you Pete. Very innovative
I train hard and don't take any P.E.Ds but thanks for the information bout this Teen I'm still not curious about steroids anyway as I've made it to age 55 with a benchpress of 345 for 3 so my max is very decent and my health is as well but your information should help lots of young people to make positive decisions before they fall into negative consequences.
Awesome video pete. Like many others been following you for almost a decade and its awesome to see your progression and growth. Great vid again
I did a cycle of tritren,and everything your saying is so tru,its great in the gym but in life its something everybody should think twice before doing it.
I'm 47yrs old...training 3 yrs... last 6 mths serious...up to 275lbs naturally. Hard as fuck
I already massively have the issue with constantly being paranoid that my partner is cheating so I probably shouldn't consider taking Tren 😬
You’re referring to the bioavailability not absorption rate.
My life style cycle is just Test E and Tren E, 6 months cruise at 500 test, 6 months blast 500 test and 500tren, that's it, nothing else
Yeah a lot of the kids at skew have been accusing me of using tren. They're just jelly because I have such good genetics and can rep 855 on incline so easily.
When I'm bored I like to bench something easy like 1300, but with bad form and bouncing every rep on my lower sternum and then I don't fully lockout every rep and I just bask in people's seething rage and their whispers of "Tren this tren that" are the best workout music.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great ,honest straightforward video keep up the good work 💪🏾
Ive ran tren for many cycles, both enanthate and acetate. Dosages up to 400mg p/w. Everything he says is true but ultimately it really varies greatly depending on the person. Yeah I had increased aggression and it felt harder to sleep at times. Sweated a lot more and just felt hot all the time. Definitely was more short tempered and I can see how it can send men over the edge but thankfully I had a solid relationship.
Fantastic for the gym but there are certain side effects you need to be aware of. Personally I'll never run it again and everyone I know after years says the same thing: it's just not worth it.
I’ve heard that from more than one Tren user I’ve talked to. Yes, it makes you feel great in the gym. But ultimately, the negatives far outweigh the positives. What Pete said about how people speak about it in awe is totally true, and it’s kinda sad quite honestly. Seems like it’s more of the younger generation.
I'm a big fan of Pete Rubish...a true gentleman of the sport and industry! Would LOVE to see a PETE RUBISH and MARK PLUMMER powerlifting podcast!
We could do that more often! We had our first podcast two weeks ago! Mark's a good guy!
I don't take any (nor plan to) PEDs, but I love listening to you talk about them.
Thanks for sharing your experience, it's cool to here your perspective now after your own personal experience vs your old video on it. Thanks again, best of luck dude!
Thanks for your honesty Pete!
I stopped taking creatine many years ago due to the excessive bloating water retention on my face. I don't naturally have a lean face, so creatine makes it worse.
Creatine 100% don't do that, your diet sucked period
Trening hard and dbolishing our goals
What happened to the old Tren videos? Tren pt.1 and pt.2? I loved those.
Pete Rubish the real deal
This was HILARIOUS 😆😆😆 “violently coughing” tf…
The bat signal…..I mean the dealt signal is up for Derek to collab.
Yo brother I remember those days! Was a crazy experience for me too. Unlike anything else. Glad you’re doing well my dude 🙌🏼
•Tren Enanthate: First Tren ever had at 48 (I know, I know first one should be Tren Acetate) Never felt better mentally and my usual gains.
•Tren Acetate: Never tried, don't plan to.
•Trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate: 6 different cycles at 6 to 10 weeks long in the last 5.5 years.
~Blood work done at highly reputable Medical University 3x in last 6 years. No health concerns. Hdl/ldl does fluctuate along with slight rise in B.P. All bounce back.
~ALL Tren cycles coupled with Test Enanthate.
~Some heavy night sweats, many bouts of insomnia.
~No weightlifting injuries ever.
~Extremely sexual...be careful, you'll take any and all females and provide the Stud service they are all looking for. Remember and Respect the Unwritten Law Man Code ALWAYS and ONLY see truly single girls/Women.
~Now in mid 50's I use trt baby doses. I use that same dose with Tren weekly when on. Use low doses!
I have for 20 years, never looked better. Was natural from 1986 to 2002. 2003 started jabbing. If you are in your 20's or 30's stay natural as long as you can. Save the Test and all roids for later.
Other than wanting to rearrange some co-workers' jaws for them and a few well-timed outbursts to a few morons and a tire thumper at my ready on the trucks dash, I've been good to go.
~It is true about your wife or gf...be DANGEROUSLY careful not to hurt her feelings.
Thx for video, I've never been compelled to ever write this much. I guess I understand your thoughts and feelings on Tren. I have not given it up but soon.
Thank you for sharing those experiences, good talk
Test tren anavar cycle hits so good
strongest cycle around imo
Pete can you do a backyard meet of the century watch along or review video? It was such an insane line up of OG’s and would be really interesting to see how the numbers rank 10+ years later
It's funny. I took Tren in my 20s and seemed to be more effected psychologically by caffeine supplements than the tren. (and yes it was real, I used different sources and even converted cattle pellets- this was 20 years ago) I took a couple shots later in life and was an all out aggressive psychopath. Needless to say, I threw it out. That was kinda the wake-up call I needed to see that trt (or even generous trt) was good enough and much more conducive to the life I want to create!
tren gives me crazy crazy night sweats. to the point that some nights the sweat will be soaked completely through my matress to the other side!
Also because Im sweating and I can't replace the water or electrolytes while sleeping, waking up with cramp in my calves is common. Literally go from sound asleep to throwing myself across the room rolling around on the floor speaking in tounges and swearing 😅
tren is no joke. its a hell of a ride.
just got back to training seriously again and ive put 7lbs on in 10 days on my cycle. It will work wonders but you WILL pay a price, wether thats ED, rages, heart problems ... you roll the dice everytime you decide to run it.
Im looking at alternatives so I can start harm reduction. Mast Primo NPP looks viable but I won't be experimenting with a replacement for that "tren look" for about another year tho. That would be a video I think alot of people would be interested in seeing.
"How to get the tren god look without dancing with the devil" 😅😅😅
stay swole bros
Test, tren, anavar and eq I noticed really good strength and size gains from. Not all at once lol but taking test with each individually separate times.
What I can say from experience is that it is neurotoxic. The higher the androgenicity, the higher the toxicity (in our ciiiittyyyy).
It's bad for you. Just stick to test only.
Took tren ace for 3 weeks and jumped off before it ruined my relationship. The jealousy was real and I was even dreaming of her cheating on me. Was fucked up.
Been there my friend
Tren Suspension seems to be a solid choice if one wants the aggression/strength from it. (essentially only using it before heavy training as a pre workout)
What are your thoughts on using it in such a manner?
I used tren base in my later years and loved it. It's essentially the same thing, it's just oil based as opposed to water based. But I got the aggression for my training session and then it was gone afterward.
@@PeteRubish I just ordered some tren base not sure its any less toxic or healthier than dbol or anadrol though.
Crazy not to see those mountainous traps from atop your fridge in a video about Tren, Pete! 😂
Or as some might say, The Truth About Tren
53 and never really been the fitness type. until now. I want to now get jacked. wonder if test and tren would do the trick
Kinda late to the show, but what is your take on micro dosing tren A? To bre precise 5mg a day ramping up to 35 per week
Only thing I got is gyno an can’t sleep that’s it an I’m more vainly
Protein synthesis, size gains, muscle growth, and cuts..Not to mention strength gains.
I love the honesty man.
Thank you so much!
Great vid Pete, thanks for sharing.
controlling that type of rage and anxiety is seriously draining
Great job explaining everything man! Really good info 💪
It's great if your looking to get arrested at the grocery store
LOL, this is hilariously accurate
Quick input! Tren isn’t bioavailable and your body doesn’t recognize it as much as test it doesn’t bind to hair, or prostate, it’s actually much more selective then test itself, hence prescribed to women originally, thr androgenic to anabolic scale is garbage at this point, tren ace is 87-91% not sure what exactly, Test E is 73%, EQ is 63%,
Cannot wait to start. Currently 23, planning to hop on around 28-29 once my bodies finished growing.
You will never stop growing if you train properly
"Everything irritated me and I just wanted to be left alone" well damn ! That sounds just like me! And I don't even take creatine 😂 gonna have to count me out on the tren
Honest and commendable!
Tren doesn’t fuck me up, like it does most.
I also got paranoid. I remember a time when I was going to the gym and there was a group of guys standing in a shop doorway and I put my hand in my pocket and got my car key between my knuckle and I remember thinking if they say or start anything I'm going to start taking eyes. This also linked into the aggression because I also remember thinking about doing some horrendous things to people. Though it was all mental as I never actually did anything or had an outburst and I remained social and It didn't change my behaviour or anything beyond my way of thinking. I must also say I met my wife while I was on tren in 2015 and we're still married to this day lol. I use to get vivid nightmares and night sweats too
Don’t get me started on the nightmares , or “Trenmares” as we should call them . Always involving some sort of violence . Even getting them , but to a lesser extent , on Deca . Something about those naughty 19-Nors