The only thing crazier than the world refusing to pat men on the head in exchange for self-sacrifice is men believing that the pat on the head would be sufficient compensation. Men are not refusing to sacrifice because they've found a sense of self worth, they're refusing because they want the pat on the head. Many outright say that they'd gladly toil to an early grave for a family in exchange for "gratitude". They want to feel noble.
Its interesting how people crave recognition which just shows how people try to fill the void of meaninglessness. No matter how much they sacrifice, seeking validation is pointless because nothing really changes. It’s a way to avoid facing the fact that all efforts might be meaningless.
@palaceofwisdom9448 this sums it up perfectly. Men aren't even asking for much for the most difficult options in life. Just a little praise and admiration, and society can't even give that.
Take it from a Veteran, Do NOT serve the Criminals in the DC CARTEL. They don't give a damn about ANYONE but themselves. Their wealth and power are all that matter to these wolves in sheep's clothing!!! Your life belongs to YOU, not them!!! Once you sign that contract, you are government property. Nothing else!!! You waive your Constitutional Rights!!! Knowing what I know today, I NEVER would have joined the military!!!
Spot on, both for USA and European countries and to UK this is true. I'll stay in my home with my family while balkanization happens in my country instead of dying outside the country for nothing.
Well, my brother went to the military because he didn't want to end up in a dead end, minimum wage job. As a veteran, he gets access to higher paying jobs that want veterans.
@@MourningDove-bn4dk as long as he did not choose the infantry then he should be good. I know many of my family went the infantry route and now ended up with back & knee pain
There was a bit of a sleight-of-hand on WW2 veterans. They were led to believe that the affluent, upwardly mobile lifestyle they enjoyed after the war was a reward offered to them for their service and sacrifice. Really, it was the fact that the economies of the rest of the world were in ruins and the U.S. industrial base bestrode the world like a colossus. The reason they had stable jobs, advancement, social respect, and women, was because of a unique confluence of global economic factors that meant the U.S. ownership class *had* to offer them incredible wages and benefits.
I like medieval history. There is a fascinating incident of brotherhood and local patriotism from the people of Milan against the emperor Frederick I(known as Barbarossa). Frederick, as most Holy Roman emperors, was struggling to assert his authority in northern Italy. He campaigned a lot to make the Lombardians bow to his rule. During one battle, the battle of Legnano, the Milanese were pursuing Frederick's smaller army out of their territory. Frederick turned back, charged and clashed with the Milanese cavalry, which he eventually drove off. They started pursuing the fleeing horsemen, but they encountered the infantry, which had formed a defense line around the carrocio, the city's symbol, a sacred object. The Germans dismounted and attacked the infantry on foot. The footsoldiers fought bravely and fiercely and held the Germans at bay until the Milanese cavalry returned with reinforcements from Brescia, another city, and forced the Germans to run for their lives. Frederick's horse was killed, his standard fell and he was presumed dead for a while. The reason I brought this is because these Milanese weren't professional soldiers. They were townsmen, traders, farmers, moulders, blacksmiths etc. They were people who had a world of their own(homes, preperties, wives and children), would protect it and fight side by side, regardless of class, to the death for those and these they held dear. Compare the Milanese of the days of Frederick I with the men in the modern West. What do they have? Nothing. No homes, no properties, no wives and children, no communities, nothing. Yet they're expected to fight for a world they don't have like these old Lombardians did? Piss off.
Very good example. And personally I think it's true, unless there's some kind of direct danger to a person's family members that can't be solved by picking up and moving somewhere the madness isn't, there's not much incentive to fight anywhere. Even if China invaded Los Angeles, who would come to the rescue? The ones who got out of that corrupt state as soon as possible? The ones who remain because their state government has taken their resources to do so? The hundreds of thousands of zombified addicts who would probably benefit from the city being destroyed? The zoomers living in overpriced pods with their equally debt-ridden and always temporary friends? There's nobody to fight when nobody cares.
it used to be the other way around, to be an immigrant you had to fight for the country you wanted to be assimilated into, and if you survived, then you became a citizen. Now its the citizens that have to fight for the illegal immigrants that didn't give anything to the country to enter, its an unfair deal to the natives.
I feel sorry for all the men who fought in WW2 thinking the fight would preserve their nations for centuries to come, only for those same nations to be all but destroyed less than a century later. Never believe your peers, especially not fork tongued politicians.
Which nations? The ones which were still colonizing other people? Or the ones who did not extend the same benefits for some that they did for others? How about the ones who were under colonialism and still fought?
white americans fighting againts germany and italy in ww2... is probably the dumbest thing in human history. imagine fighting for the replacement of your own people. i remember the exact statictic but like 80% of americans are german descendents, italians probably 10%.
white americans fighting againts germany and italy in ww2... is probably the dumbest thing in human history. imagine fighting for the replacement of your own people. i remember the exact statictic but like 80% of americans are german descendents, italians probably 10%.
I was better off at the age of 19, than I am at 50 years old. I make more money now but can't afford a home. And I served 23 years in the military. No wife, no kids and still don't own anything.
That means you were 10 years old in 1984. Life was more stable then and you slept well knowing you likely had a great future ahead of you. You weren’t aware of how much and how fast the world would change over the course of a few decades.
"Fight for your land!" We don't have any.... "Fight for your home!" We don't have that either.... "Fight for your wives and children!". .....yeah, about that. "What Do You Have Then????" Bills and Taxes
@@General_Kenobi_212 don't fight, just wait for the state to collapse, at least you will have no bill and taxes, and finally you can start having something. prescient future
Actually in UK we do know men were treated poorly when they came back from WW2. A shop in London quite upper class called Selfridges said the men would be guaranteed their jobs back if they served their country. When they came back women wanted to keep there jobs while the men were away fighting and those men were left unemployed which often lead to homelessness. I'm sure many other companies would of done the same. Similar happened in WW1. Promised more rights i.e. right to vote as a lot of ex colonies were now more free than the citizens of UK so they were promised these rights. Once they came back the right to vote was also given to upper class women which effectively made the lower classes vote irrelevant as the upper classes outnumbered for about 5 to 7 years after the war due to all the death.
Tell me why do you think you're still here right now? You are the end result of a long lineage of men who fought for their Nations. It's not about what you personally want. If the Huns are at the gate you must fight and defend your people. I see you like quotes have you heard of this one. " how can a man die better, than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his gods". It is your duty as a man to fight for your people. Don't forget Achilles was a soldier, Robin Hood was a crusader before he became a famous outlaw, the whole reason we still have a Europe is due to Christian armies fighting against Turks in the east and pushing the Muslim South out of Spain. Your entire way of life is thanks to men who fought for something greater then themselves
@@GandalftheWiseso you can correlate that to the war in Afghanistan? Please. We haven’t defended the homeland from a foreign invader in masse in over 200 years.
My comments will be “on hold” for a few minutes then all of the sudden they’ll show up. Pretty sure YT changed up the algo to screen all comments before posting.
WWI was the war that wiped out a lot of males, especially in the upper class who were the Officer class. There's a really interesting book called 'Singled Out' about what losing 700,000 men did to the dating market in Britain. What I found interesting was that some of the women were so lonely they considered marrying a veteran who had lost a leg. I know it was a different time, but lack of respect for veterans existed even back then. Imagine losing a leg in service to your country and even desperately lonely women won't consider marrying you. It was also funny how the men who were left had their pick of the women, even the "ugly men" could have any woman if he was able-bodied.
@@ghosthunter7258 so everyone who's not a coward now ia a boomer ? And that's sais by a guy who has anti lgbt flag ? Why don't you stand up and fight for what you believe in ?
Got paid from my job I work 50 hours a week at today, before 12 in the afternoon my bills where paid, wife got some money for groceries, and I’m left with just enough for snacks, food , and gas for the week till next payday, what’s the point as if man if taking care of your “duty and honor” as a man leaves you with so little that at most you might be able to buy one or two nice things for yourself? This system is slavery and I’m a razors edge from saying to hell with it and going my own way, or roping myself boys. Even if I make double what I make I would still work my ass off for years to truly feel accomplished enough to finally afford the things that truly matter to me, a nice house and some land that surrounds it
@@HPLovesCraftsCat I mean Spain is night and day. I was renting a two bedroom huge flat on a golf course in south Spain. They sell from anywhere between €180,000 to €300 (depending on spec and what not). However compared to London it’s ridiculous. Some 1 bed new builds are selling at £400,000. Difference is Spain has 0 jobs. So the prices are cheaper but you can’t live LOL. What an irony.
Non violent resistance is the better option at the present. If we resist in large enough numbers, what can they do? They don't have enough jail space for millions of people at one time. Massive resistance of paying taxes could also be implemented. There's always strength in numbers. The only reason the system continues to operate is because we do whatever it tells us to do.
@deathandrebirth-y8x Those prisons are funded by taxpayers. I figure if most of us stop paying, the system would quickly crumble and the prisons couldn't operate for long. The government should be afraid of us, we shouldn't be afraid of them.
@@deathandrebirth-y8x And the reason that works is because people let it. They can't put even 5 percent of the population in jail, no matter how many years they give that first guy. But people don't think of that -- they panic and obey without thinking anything through. Loki was right -- most people WANT to be ruled.
@deathandrebirth-y8x I figure if millions aren't paying taxes, the system would quickly crumble. Those prisons are funded by taxpayers and would cease to operate. The government should be afraid of us but we're afraid of the government.
"Now, whatever you may think about WW2..." Trust me, dude, you do NOT want to know what I think about WW2. And thankfully, NEITHER DOES YT! Because they won't let you talk about it anyway! 🤪
If you view it that way. My hard work makes me tired enough to sleep. I suffer from insomnia, and get I get paid to get tired. I suppose you guys don't look forward to sleeping as much as I do.
Its amazing how nobody feels like they were programmed, but we all got programmed pretty damned hard. Even men going to war to die get little care or respect. The idea that things are going to get better is one of the harshest noble lies.
Things can get better if you work within your means. Any small progress you make is an improvement. People expect unrealistic changes that they want to happen almost magically. Change is gradual. In the long run, it takes a long time for things to get better. By better, I mean an improvement from what they are now.
@@MourningDove-bn4dkEvery empire in history has collapsed. I'm sure there were people back then who thought things would get better until they had to face reality.
A regular grunt in my country's armed forces is paid less than someone stocking shelves in a supermarket. If they're deployed they don't even make twice that. Whatever benefits they're supposed to receive afterwards is often held back, as our budget is in shambles. And a full tour can't even finance the downpay on a decent house. In the meanwhile our government have imported so many unwanted "guests" from the same countries we were at war with over the decades, who have been a net expendiure the entire time, and wages haven't followed the rest of the economy at all. What exactly do they have to fight for?
If you're going to ignore the reason we fought WW1 & WW2, then nothing else you have to say matters. Taking the J pill is hard, i get it. I have friends and family who belong. As an earth-centric model of planetary rotation requires epicycles and other contortions of physics, so too does history require it's own version of epicycles to pretend that the Western world isn't hebriocentric.
that was a lie, they closed volunteer enlistment in 1942 because there were too many joining that it overloaded the induction system. They also did that so men wouldn't feel shameful about not serving their country, since they didn't want high-skilled employee abandon their job to go fight in the military, thus lead to a shortage of high-skilled worker to sustain the industrial output
they will fight. There really is no difference between men born in the 1920s or men born in the 1980s. People ascribe prejudice to generations and claim that were softer now. We aren't. When put to task we have just as much grit as our forefathers
The first time i played paintball, i was in my 20s and had that fantasy about being the super soldier with medals pinned to his chest charging at the enemy, cod style. The very first match, the very first volley, i took a shot to the throat. In less than 5 seconds i was out. I was shocked. The mismatch between expectation and reality struck me deeply. No more foolish dreams of glory for me.
WW2 is venerated but something that isn't mentioned is there were about 50,000 American deserters in the European theater and about 100,000 British desertions.
This subject matter makes me think of a song from a band I like. Primordial - Where Greater Men Have Fallen: "For those who buried their sons Under bone white crosses For those who saw their daughters Virtues were taken by invading forces They promised the century to you And all you did was count the dead And pray for merciful release In the longest and the darkest night Where greater men have fallen Here we stand guard Where greater men have fallen Until the end of time They made you build your tomb With your own very hands And ground your kin to dust In the dark satanic mills of progress It seems the lands of the free Are born of the cold and empty grave And the myths of liberty Bind our wrists like slaves Where greater men have fallen Here we stand guard Where greater men have fallen Until the end of time Where greater men have fallen Is where we stand guard And you will always bury your sons Under broken barren promises And the heart of your motherland Will be ripped from her chest Where greater men have fallen We are ready to die Where greater men have fallen We are ready to die" In other words, war is a racket. You're not fighting for kin and country anymore. You're fighting for the geopolitical and financial interests of people who couldn't care less about you, your country and your people.
It's like what Sun Tzu says about the Moral Law, it causes the people to be in complete accord with their ruler, so that they will follow him regardless of their lives, undismayed by danger....But if the people reject the cause and don't see it as worthwhile it invites disaster and the campaign will be lost....These days people have nothing to fight for, and no cause is just, so people are refusing to serve and don't see the country as something worth protecting
You all lined up around the block to take the jab(s). And you were A OK with the mandates and segregation, you were fervent in your zeal to be "good citizens"
I think people back in the days were more like faking to believe the lie, as it was the socially acceptable thing to do, rather than actually beleiving the lie. Today they are not faking it anymore.
I finished my mandatory military service, (not exactly by choice) but i can't actually justify to myself fighting in a war. I do not have enough to protect that it would outweigh my life. Were i to fight and return alive, my country would likely not compensate me in any meaningful way, and i would have to return to making a regular living as life continues to move on, possibly leaving me to struggle with mental and physical problems from the war. While serving, i ended up asking my fellow trainees what they thought about fighting and if they would want to come. Some i mentioned to that i would likely not be interested in fighting tried to convince me otherwise, be a man, etc, quite a few seemed quite willing, some even excited to come in case of war. Others planned to join the military immediately after finishing the 11 months of training. We also had some like me who didn't intend to come or intended to flee, or thought the whole thing was a waste of time and they'd rather be working or studying. I wrote this meandering and aimless comment just to share a little bit of my experience, but there's unfortunately no conclusion here. I didn't do a study or anything, so only my general observations remained.
I always use this analogy to put things into perspective, imagine the kid who got shipped from the backwoods to storm normamdy and got headshot off the break. No chance, never seen outside his town, drove a car, had a gf etc.
Growing up I would hear my grandfather speaking ill of WW2 veterans. I thought he did this out of a twisted jealousy as he shirked the war at the time. But after talking it over with my dad I sort of realized that he was trying to impart to me how useless their sacrifice was. He was a tough man who didn’t care what other people thought but he loved his family and hated war so he never once said anything positive about honor or glory.
"Out in the field, we had a code. I watch your back, you watch mine. Back here there's NOTHING!" You don't need to be a veteran to grasp that last part today.
That's one part of being in the military that bothered me. The words honor, duty, and hero were thrown around as though everyone were. In reality, some had seen war, fewer saw any danger. The rest of us saw mandatory classes and PMCS in the motor pool. I wasn't a hero. It wasn't a duty or a job of honor. It was work, and I got my wages.
I'm a current officer in the military, and it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized just how biased it is towards single men. Despite their separation, married service members get more time off, more pay, and more of a psychological sense of motivation and purpose. Single women don't stay single for long, and they're often given less/easier work and reprimands for their mistakes. Also, by being more prone to injury, they spend much of their time with medical appointments. In general, I partly joined because I saw it as a rite of passage that all great philosophers had to go through in their time. The other more pragmatic reason is that if a major war kicked off, I would have enough rank to position myself in a strategically safe position.
Im interested in your line of reasoning. Why could it be considered a rite of passage for philosophers. Philosophers are notoriously slandered as 'thinkers' rather than 'doers', and the military is a lot about doing. Or are you referencing that ancient saying: If you your figthers dont think, you will be defended by fools, and if your scholars dont fight you will be lead by cowards.? Please let me know. Thank you!
Even with all the glorification of the World War Two veteran every single family member I had (they are all gone now) had psychological problems. They were left untreated and many had problems that they tried to bury with occasional binge drinking. I remember great-aunts from time to time calling my grandmother saying uncle so and so had a nightmare and he’s fallen off the wagon again. It applied to a Vietnam veteran in the family too. I heard my grandad talking about civil war veterans that he knew going through the same misery. War is not honorable or noble. It destroys men’s souls that’s why every time I hear women drone on about wanting to fight like men for their “country” I think they don’t know they are being used in some political game to make such claims.
America since WW2 fights wars that whether we win or lose, have no effect on daily life in America at all. Someone explain to me why America's military should be larger than that of Canada or Mexico. Mexico, for example, doesn't operate a single fighter plane or bomber.
I served in the US military from 1978 till 1984. I got out and work two full-time jobs for years plus overtime. I was never home always working But little did I know in 1980s throughout that decade the Reagan administration made multiple cuts to the veterans benefits to the point where I’m no longer eligible for VA medical care because I make too much money Of course I did wasn’t aware of the changes I was too busy working now I’m in my 60s and for a little parade of time I had no health insurance so I automatically went to the VA for something for the first time in my life and what was I told I was no longer eligible for VA medical care See if you make overs about $60,000 a year in the state of New Jersey the state where property taxes are 15 to 30,000 a year on a home you’re no longer eligible for VA medical care for veterans in my group but we were at one time At the same time, the VA health Institute of a 3.25 funding fee for mortgages for most veterans. Yeah, you can turn around and get first time homebuyer programs in the state, put money down toward your down payment a little on the closing cost Believe me, I learned the hard way screw America I would just turn my back for invaded. I’ll learn another language I don’t care. I have no love for this country.
"Everything that you've hoped for, that you've dreamed about being a part of, is a fabrication. Your art, your writing, your culture is the shell of other men's ambitions - ambitions beyond what you will ever understand."
The inclination to do what is necessary to protect those you love is truly an honorable instinct. The powers that be prey on this instinct and use it to their own ends. It's tragic that we always fall for it.
I know one story is just an antedate. My son’s close friend joined the marines during Iraq 2. Just out of boot camp and meeting his platoon another soldier sucker punch him and broke his jaw. After his 1st deployment he was back home for Christmas and stopped by to see my son. He told him that if he was going to be deployed again he was going self delete. Fortunately, he was not called back.
3:08 _“Americans in 1950 rediscovered something that since Hiroshima they had forgotten: you may fly over a land forever; you may bomb it, atomize it, pulverize it and wipe it clean of life-but if you desire to defend it, protect it, and keep it for civilization, _*_you must do this on the ground, the way the Roman legions did, by putting your young men into the mud_*_ .”_ ― T. R. Fehrenbach, This Kind of War: The Classic Military History of the Korean War
Hey it looks like he read my comment on his rip spetnaz video where i called out that saying RIP isnt for the dead, its to comfort the living and feel better about yourself and death. Tillman and spetznaz will never hear your RIPs, so do they really matter?
yes, i joined the navy because i was poor and i had no money for college or job skills. it was a very tough job. it was not about rah rah the flag thats for sure haha
good video. In the absence of religious meaning, young men could still find value in serving country but that's been taken away also. The US Military (and many foreign nations) have sacrificed their reputations for the sake of DEI BS. "We Want You" has been replaced by "Die for Zog" in the young male zeitgeist. I really like how a meme can sum up a complex idea in such few words.
I wouldn’t mind dying for my country if I thought I was dying for something. If I believed that I wasn’t dying for protect. If I thought that I could have a family waiting. But we don’t have that
I think some of the bitterness that Vietnam vets and many other Americans had was not just the war, but it came to light we had been sending people their since the 50s. Many felt the government had deliberately decided them...and we suffered the same fate as the French...
@thinking-ape6483 You're correct about the word itself on the basis of spelling. To clarify, I was referring to a philosophical use of the word translated into modern English. I was attempting to show how the ideal of honor has been used to exploit people's tribal nature. Or, rather, the desire to feel accepted and belong.
Currently people complain that the US or Europe is sending so much money to Ukraine. actually all that money is coming back somehow even the politician said the quiet part out loud at all that money you sent go to the defense contractors
I used to think that way, but started to notice examples from Vets of the targets. Basically, like literally bombing barrels of fuel while avoiding the tanker in the harbor. The "war" was mostly fought to get them to negotiate, not to win. Imagine the Monuments Men movie being in charge and avoiding significant targets. Later presidencies the targets evolved from things like an empty airfield to active rail yard as an example. There was even a plan to march up the Ho Chi Minh trail.
The only thing crazier than the world refusing to pat men on the head in exchange for self-sacrifice is men believing that the pat on the head would be sufficient compensation. Men are not refusing to sacrifice because they've found a sense of self worth, they're refusing because they want the pat on the head. Many outright say that they'd gladly toil to an early grave for a family in exchange for "gratitude". They want to feel noble.
Spot on Lord Brain!
Its interesting how people crave recognition which just shows how people try to fill the void of meaninglessness. No matter how much they sacrifice, seeking validation is pointless because nothing really changes. It’s a way to avoid facing the fact that all efforts might be meaningless.
If they had received adequate recognition in their formative years. They would set the bar higher and expect more.
The Men’s Rights Movement summed up in a paragraph.
@palaceofwisdom9448 this sums it up perfectly. Men aren't even asking for much for the most difficult options in life. Just a little praise and admiration, and society can't even give that.
"War is where the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing each other." - Niko Bellic
Stupid quote
@@LunarWolf-H8 stupid reply
skill issue ngl
@@General_Kenobi_212 you shouldn't be allowed any rights coward
truth
It is expected of men to sacrifice themselves for the things they do not have: a loving family, good wife, many children, a loving community...
You don't but whose to say that the other guys in the platoon don't? You're the exception.
@@Urbanizegaming
Who said I don't have those things?
I was talking in general about most men
@@UrbanizegamingMost Young men aren‘t married or have children, try again.
Normal men have kids , wife and some house.
@@Urbanizegaming
People wont fıģht if they cant even afford housing. If you dont even own a shack, you have no skin the game.
This! You're expected to fight for people that own everything whose own kids get deferments.
Even the Romans had to offer each legionary a farm to retire to.
Do you pay taxes? Do you have kids? If you said yes to either one of those questions, congratulations
You have skin in the game
@@iraqifoodcart8447 How does paying taxes equate to having skin in the game? lol.
@@iraqifoodcart8447 not really, your tax payments are just the bankstarz's doing the cash flow. They don't teach you that part.
There's no point in fighting for a society that despises me just because I exist.
Stop making excuses. Grow a pair and change it
@@LunarWolf-H8stop attacking us
Being a sub-5 is a personal decision
@@LunarWolf-H8 why don't you grow a pair and join the army since you love it so much. Typical brainwashed boomer moment
"Not this time bro. The country needs you (as cannon fodder)" - Uncle Sam
Yeah let me risk my life and health for elites who despise me 😂
*elitists There is nothing elite about them.
@@palaceofwisdom9448true
@@palaceofwisdom9448 they love low iq cannon fodder
ill pass. i value my life more than thier wealth and egos.
Elites = Liars and Cheaters + Nepotism.
Take it from a Veteran,
Do NOT serve the Criminals in the DC CARTEL. They don't give a damn about ANYONE but themselves. Their wealth and power are all that matter to these wolves in sheep's clothing!!!
Your life belongs to YOU, not them!!!
Once you sign that contract, you are government property. Nothing else!!! You waive your Constitutional Rights!!!
Knowing what I know today, I NEVER would have joined the military!!!
wait, military enlistment isn't mandatory in America ? truly the land of freedom.
@@luizmonad777
Yes, and I'm encouraging young people NOT to enlist.
How can you not see that?
They have imported your replacements, now they need to dispose of you.
Bingo.
Spot on, both for USA and European countries and to UK this is true. I'll stay in my home with my family while balkanization happens in my country instead of dying outside the country for nothing.
bullseye
But unlike the Ruthenians, you have the option to be armed. You have been warned.
"Ask NOT what your country can do for you, ASK what your country is DOING to you."
Lol
Better to just not ask any questions and don't be questioning the system right?
Coward excuse
Lyrics by The Avengers (the punk band, not the superheroes)
Times have changed.
A lot of men join the military because it's the employer of last resort.
Well, my brother went to the military because he didn't want to end up in a dead end, minimum wage job. As a veteran, he gets access to higher paying jobs that want veterans.
@@MourningDove-bn4dkIf you're able to retire. Survivorship bias dude. It's all luck
@@MourningDove-bn4dk There are few jobs like the military for a *DEAD* end.
@@MourningDove-bn4dk as long as he did not choose the infantry then he should be good. I know many of my family went the infantry route and now ended up with back & knee pain
Joining the military out of desperation shows how pointless it is to find meaning in survival alone.
There was a bit of a sleight-of-hand on WW2 veterans. They were led to believe that the affluent, upwardly mobile lifestyle they enjoyed after the war was a reward offered to them for their service and sacrifice. Really, it was the fact that the economies of the rest of the world were in ruins and the U.S. industrial base bestrode the world like a colossus. The reason they had stable jobs, advancement, social respect, and women, was because of a unique confluence of global economic factors that meant the U.S. ownership class *had* to offer them incredible wages and benefits.
I'm not fighting for chad's leftovers
Seriously, this has nothing to do with women. When you fight for a country, you are essentially fighting for other people's children not just yours
@@jake4404 What the point of fighting for society who doesnt respect you as a poor dude 5/10 wagie slave?
You can count me in on that statement. Not worth it
I like medieval history. There is a fascinating incident of brotherhood and local patriotism from the people of Milan against the emperor Frederick I(known as Barbarossa). Frederick, as most Holy Roman emperors, was struggling to assert his authority in northern Italy. He campaigned a lot to make the Lombardians bow to his rule. During one battle, the battle of Legnano, the Milanese were pursuing Frederick's smaller army out of their territory. Frederick turned back, charged and clashed with the Milanese cavalry, which he eventually drove off. They started pursuing the fleeing horsemen, but they encountered the infantry, which had formed a defense line around the carrocio, the city's symbol, a sacred object. The Germans dismounted and attacked the infantry on foot. The footsoldiers fought bravely and fiercely and held the Germans at bay until the Milanese cavalry returned with reinforcements from Brescia, another city, and forced the Germans to run for their lives. Frederick's horse was killed, his standard fell and he was presumed dead for a while.
The reason I brought this is because these Milanese weren't professional soldiers. They were townsmen, traders, farmers, moulders, blacksmiths etc. They were people who had a world of their own(homes, preperties, wives and children), would protect it and fight side by side, regardless of class, to the death for those and these they held dear.
Compare the Milanese of the days of Frederick I with the men in the modern West. What do they have? Nothing. No homes, no properties, no wives and children, no communities, nothing. Yet they're expected to fight for a world they don't have like these old Lombardians did?
Piss off.
Your giving me medieval total war vibes 😅
Well said
Very good example. And personally I think it's true, unless there's some kind of direct danger to a person's family members that can't be solved by picking up and moving somewhere the madness isn't, there's not much incentive to fight anywhere. Even if China invaded Los Angeles, who would come to the rescue? The ones who got out of that corrupt state as soon as possible? The ones who remain because their state government has taken their resources to do so? The hundreds of thousands of zombified addicts who would probably benefit from the city being destroyed? The zoomers living in overpriced pods with their equally debt-ridden and always temporary friends?
There's nobody to fight when nobody cares.
My thoughts exactly.
My favourite battle of the medieval period is "The battle on Ice"
Its because you're probably fighting for future immigrants to have a better life in your country.
it used to be the other way around, to be an immigrant you had to fight for the country you wanted to be assimilated into, and if you survived, then you became a citizen.
Now its the citizens that have to fight for the illegal immigrants that didn't give anything to the country to enter, its an unfair deal to the natives.
Who cares. Let them have a better life. You're just afraid because they aren't as white as binder paper
anyone with a brain can see that
People will die for an idea, but never for a business. - an austrian painter
Sounds like he was right about this or that
And an Iron-cross holder, someone who fought in war himself and could back up what he spoke about.
Ideas are business lol
@@WeeG-bwc77 why would being stupid enough to be conscripted in WW1 make a person wise ?
I feel sorry for all the men who fought in WW2 thinking the fight would preserve their nations for centuries to come, only for those same nations to be all but destroyed less than a century later. Never believe your peers, especially not fork tongued politicians.
Which nations? The ones which were still colonizing other people? Or the ones who did not extend the same benefits for some that they did for others? How about the ones who were under colonialism and still fought?
@@tmajecnobody cares about 3rd worlders, stop deflecting no one cares
"Honor is a fool's prize, and glory is of no use to the dead" - Darth Revan
Said no muslim.
Omg the Sith were right all along
Is he the dude from KotOR?
white americans fighting againts germany and italy in ww2... is probably the dumbest thing in human history.
imagine fighting for the replacement of your own people.
i remember the exact statictic but like 80% of americans are german descendents, italians probably 10%.
"Equality is a lie a trick to fool the masses." - Darth Bane
But seriously people don't even know how based EU star wars was especially the sith.
My Dad was a Vietnam vet. Back in the 90’s he told me not to join the military.
well the war was over by then.
European WW2 soldiers fought so that the most popular boys name is mohammed. Winning!
They were next by they Austrian painter. But nnnnnoooooo
if a city has 10000 people, and 500 people are called mohammed, it would be the most popular name. That doesn't say a lot.
@@Urbanizegaming It says everything. For example, "We fought the wrong enemy."
white americans fighting againts germany and italy in ww2... is probably the dumbest thing in human history.
imagine fighting for the replacement of your own people.
i remember the exact statictic but like 80% of americans are german descendents, italians probably 10%.
@hunkyhaggis2161 it doesnt say anything. There are numerous Mohammuds who fought FOR your country.
Get a grip.
C'mon, lads - sign up! That billionaire's new super-yacht isn't going to buy itself, y'know!
Never die for Rothschild Bankers.
The internet has opened our eyes to things that were historically taken for granted.
I was better off at the age of 19, than I am at 50 years old. I make more money now but can't afford a home. And I served 23 years in the military. No wife, no kids and still don't own anything.
23 years? Wow
That means you were 10 years old in 1984. Life was more stable then and you slept well knowing you likely had a great future ahead of you. You weren’t aware of how much and how fast the world would change over the course of a few decades.
Your not alone brother. Thanks for your service
Fight for what you own. Do you own anything?
"Fight for your land!"
We don't have any....
"Fight for your home!"
We don't have that either....
"Fight for your wives and children!".
.....yeah, about that.
"What Do You Have Then????"
Bills and Taxes
Yeah, my house, my car, my furniture, my computer, my phone, my clothes, my guns, my bike, my lawnmower - I could go on
@@General_Kenobi_212
"Fight for what you own!"
"You're right! Get the f outta my house!"
@@General_Kenobi_212I have the freedom to go to work and pay taxes
@@General_Kenobi_212 don't fight, just wait for the state to collapse, at least you will have no bill and taxes, and finally you can start having something.
prescient future
Uh oh... Seems like our current modern civilization ain't worth to die for, neither to live for.
Actually in UK we do know men were treated poorly when they came back from WW2. A shop in London quite upper class called Selfridges said the men would be guaranteed their jobs back if they served their country.
When they came back women wanted to keep there jobs while the men were away fighting and those men were left unemployed which often lead to homelessness. I'm sure many other companies would of done the same. Similar happened in WW1. Promised more rights i.e. right to vote as a lot of ex colonies were now more free than the citizens of UK so they were promised these rights. Once they came back the right to vote was also given to upper class women which effectively made the lower classes vote irrelevant as the upper classes outnumbered for about 5 to 7 years after the war due to all the death.
"My spirit will rise from the grave and the world will see that I was right."
- The OG himself 😎
🙋🏼the ole boogieman himself
Chingis Khan said that
The Austrian painter’s prophecy
We would be living in a very different world if the painter succeeded
USMC General Smedley Butler, recipient of 2 Medals of Honor and the Marine Brevet Medal. He wrote "War is a Racket" (50 pages).
Tell me why do you think you're still here right now? You are the end result of a long lineage of men who fought for their Nations. It's not about what you personally want. If the Huns are at the gate you must fight and defend your people. I see you like quotes have you heard of this one. " how can a man die better, than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his gods". It is your duty as a man to fight for your people. Don't forget Achilles was a soldier, Robin Hood was a crusader before he became a famous outlaw, the whole reason we still have a Europe is due to Christian armies fighting against Turks in the east and pushing the Muslim South out of Spain. Your entire way of life is thanks to men who fought for something greater then themselves
@@GandalftheWiseso you can correlate that to the war in Afghanistan? Please. We haven’t defended the homeland from a foreign invader in masse in over 200 years.
@@GandalftheWiseGrow up kiddo
I refuse to participate in this constant cycle of hatred between nations and politicians
Me also
Naruto and Pain would both approve.
The war is not across any ocean, I know that much.
No. They delete my racist comments all the time.
The AntiFA and BLM and other "Woke" goons are at home.
Anyone else getting their comments constantly deleted by youtube? And yet people can say racist things with impunity
Happens to me all the time. Speak the truth and you will be silenced.
Dangerous times we live in brother.
My comments will be “on hold” for a few minutes then all of the sudden they’ll show up. Pretty sure YT changed up the algo to screen all comments before posting.
the victim cult is real
Dont worry about the yt alg, theyll pay@_Aurelian_
WWI was the war that wiped out a lot of males, especially in the upper class who were the Officer class.
There's a really interesting book called 'Singled Out' about what losing 700,000 men did to the dating market in Britain.
What I found interesting was that some of the women were so lonely they considered marrying a veteran who had lost a leg.
I know it was a different time, but lack of respect for veterans existed even back then. Imagine losing a leg in service to your country and even desperately lonely women won't consider marrying you.
It was also funny how the men who were left had their pick of the women, even the "ugly men" could have any woman if he was able-bodied.
Supply and demand, through and through. I just wish housing was more affordable...
"old men talking, young men dying"
Generalized bs
This nonsense suggests that old men are all the same and living under communism is the same as capitalism
Oh right it matters... 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@LunarWolf-H8 ok boomer
@@ghosthunter7258 so everyone who's not a coward now ia a boomer ? And that's sais by a guy who has anti lgbt flag ? Why don't you stand up and fight for what you believe in ?
@@LunarWolf-H8 English not you're first language?? Go back to school and learn it first boomer
"There is no honor for your face"- Rehab Room
"I was born, and my life was already over"- St Hamudi
The 🐊 pit - Rehab Room
Rehab’s latest video: “Who’s gonna carry the boats?” 😂
@@FakeAndTrolled RR has been on a role
Got paid from my job I work 50 hours a week at today, before 12 in the afternoon my bills where paid, wife got some money for groceries, and I’m left with just enough for snacks, food , and gas for the week till next payday, what’s the point as if man if taking care of your “duty and honor” as a man leaves you with so little that at most you might be able to buy one or two nice things for yourself? This system is slavery and I’m a razors edge from saying to hell with it and going my own way, or roping myself boys. Even if I make double what I make I would still work my ass off for years to truly feel accomplished enough to finally afford the things that truly matter to me, a nice house and some land that surrounds it
If you join the military, you'd actually be making less, and often working a lot more hours than that.
House lol. I hope you don’t live in the UK. Flat prices here are absurd.
Nothing wrong with you taking a few years to get such a good goal as a home you didn't need to build yourself and some land. Stuff takes time....
@@Jonathan-Shadowprices everywhere have gone asinine. We are truly living in the "you will own nothing and be happy" time.
@@HPLovesCraftsCat I mean Spain is night and day. I was renting a two bedroom huge flat on a golf course in south Spain. They sell from anywhere between €180,000 to €300 (depending on spec and what not). However compared to London it’s ridiculous. Some 1 bed new builds are selling at £400,000. Difference is Spain has 0 jobs. So the prices are cheaper but you can’t live LOL. What an irony.
jude tube doesn't like my patton comments
What are you patton comments?
oy veeeeeeey! july 21st, 1945 - Patton WAS correct.
Patton agreed with the Austrian painter.
@@technoruffles7747 soviets were always the true enemy
If the US will try to force a draft, ppl might take up arms and point them to the government lol
Non violent resistance is the better option at the present. If we resist in large enough numbers, what can they do? They don't have enough jail space for millions of people at one time.
Massive resistance of paying taxes could also be implemented. There's always strength in numbers. The only reason the system continues to operate is because we do whatever it tells us to do.
@deathandrebirth-y8x Those prisons are funded by taxpayers. I figure if most of us stop paying, the system would quickly crumble and the prisons couldn't operate for long. The government should be afraid of us, we shouldn't be afraid of them.
@@deathandrebirth-y8x And the reason that works is because people let it. They can't put even 5 percent of the population in jail, no matter how many years they give that first guy. But people don't think of that -- they panic and obey without thinking anything through.
Loki was right -- most people WANT to be ruled.
RX84. The only response to violence, is meeting it with greater violence.
@deathandrebirth-y8x I figure if millions aren't paying taxes, the system would quickly crumble. Those prisons are funded by taxpayers and would cease to operate. The government should be afraid of us but we're afraid of the government.
"Now, whatever you may think about WW2..."
Trust me, dude, you do NOT want to know what I think about WW2. And thankfully, NEITHER DOES YT! Because they won't let you talk about it anyway! 🤪
True !! 🙋🏻♂️
What? That the Allies (except jhoo Russia) *lost* WWII???
Are you a Nazi sympathizer or something?
All your hardwork mean nothing in the end because you live for a lie
If you view it that way. My hard work makes me tired enough to sleep. I suffer from insomnia, and get I get paid to get tired. I suppose you guys don't look forward to sleeping as much as I do.
War is psyop. Period
Coward
maybe you're the psyop
@@paran0rmvl467 coward
@@Urbanizegamingmaybe both of you are the psyops.
Look at me -- I'm the psyop now
Its amazing how nobody feels like they were programmed, but we all got programmed pretty damned hard. Even men going to war to die get little care or respect. The idea that things are going to get better is one of the harshest noble lies.
Things can get better if you work within your means. Any small progress you make is an improvement. People expect unrealistic changes that they want to happen almost magically. Change is gradual. In the long run, it takes a long time for things to get better. By better, I mean an improvement from what they are now.
@@MourningDove-bn4dkEvery empire in history has collapsed. I'm sure there were people back then who thought things would get better until they had to face reality.
A regular grunt in my country's armed forces is paid less than someone stocking shelves in a supermarket.
If they're deployed they don't even make twice that.
Whatever benefits they're supposed to receive afterwards is often held back, as our budget is in shambles. And a full tour can't even finance the downpay on a decent house.
In the meanwhile our government have imported so many unwanted "guests" from the same countries we were at war with over the decades, who have been a net expendiure the entire time, and wages haven't followed the rest of the economy at all.
What exactly do they have to fight for?
“Honor died on the beach”
@@JoseMartinez-ii7ej Ghost of Tsushima was such a good game
based game
If you're going to ignore the reason we fought WW1 & WW2, then nothing else you have to say matters. Taking the J pill is hard, i get it. I have friends and family who belong. As an earth-centric model of planetary rotation requires epicycles and other contortions of physics, so too does history require it's own version of epicycles to pretend that the Western world isn't hebriocentric.
"hebriocentric."
?
The draft in WW2 was very unpopular. Most men were drafted instead of volunteered.
In the films over ww2 seem everybody was very happy.
@@nowhereman7413 In the films...
that was a lie, they closed volunteer enlistment in 1942 because there were too many joining that it overloaded the induction system.
They also did that so men wouldn't feel shameful about not serving their country, since they didn't want high-skilled employee abandon their job to go fight in the military, thus lead to a shortage of high-skilled worker to sustain the industrial output
@@nowhereman7413Think.
My question. When the draft is brought back in force. What will men do.
Do they have any choice?
they will fight. There really is no difference between men born in the 1920s or men born in the 1980s. People ascribe prejudice to generations and claim that were softer now. We aren't. When put to task we have just as much grit as our forefathers
Take out the enforcers.
@@gravelpit5680 Doubtful. Men didn't even fight back when a fake president stole an election and took the country 4 years ago..........
Well, now that women can serve in the frontlines, they can serve!
The first time i played paintball, i was in my 20s and had that fantasy about being the super soldier with medals pinned to his chest charging at the enemy, cod style.
The very first match, the very first volley, i took a shot to the throat. In less than 5 seconds i was out. I was shocked. The mismatch between expectation and reality struck me deeply.
No more foolish dreams of glory for me.
lol I only played paintball ONE time. The first (and only) time I got hit, it was a shot to the mask… right at mouth level. Sprayed into my mouth.
They won't fight if they don't have a significant investment in this society. We certianly don't now like we used to.
WW2 is venerated but something that isn't mentioned is there were about 50,000 American deserters in the European theater and about 100,000 British desertions.
This subject matter makes me think of a song from a band I like.
Primordial - Where Greater Men Have Fallen:
"For those who buried their sons
Under bone white crosses
For those who saw their daughters
Virtues were taken by invading forces
They promised the century to you
And all you did was count the dead
And pray for merciful release
In the longest and the darkest night
Where greater men have fallen
Here we stand guard
Where greater men have fallen
Until the end of time
They made you build your tomb
With your own very hands
And ground your kin to dust
In the dark satanic mills of progress
It seems the lands of the free
Are born of the cold and empty grave
And the myths of liberty
Bind our wrists like slaves
Where greater men have fallen
Here we stand guard
Where greater men have fallen
Until the end of time
Where greater men have fallen
Is where we stand guard
And you will always bury your sons
Under broken barren promises
And the heart of your motherland
Will be ripped from her chest
Where greater men have fallen
We are ready to die
Where greater men have fallen
We are ready to die"
In other words, war is a racket. You're not fighting for kin and country anymore. You're fighting for the geopolitical and financial interests of people who couldn't care less about you, your country and your people.
I'm not becoming a statistic for people who hate me.
It's like what Sun Tzu says about the Moral Law, it causes the people to be in complete accord with their ruler, so that they will follow him regardless of their lives, undismayed by danger....But if the people reject the cause and don't see it as worthwhile it invites disaster and the campaign will be lost....These days people have nothing to fight for, and no cause is just, so people are refusing to serve and don't see the country as something worth protecting
That's why you will be replaced by the thrir world and your culture with lgbt
You all lined up around the block to take the jab(s). And you were A OK with the mandates and segregation, you were fervent in your zeal to be "good citizens"
The army can be good though if you are a soyjack. It won't make you a chad but you'll be a soyjack+
I think people back in the days were more like faking to believe the lie, as it was the socially acceptable thing to do, rather than actually beleiving the lie. Today they are not faking it anymore.
I finished my mandatory military service, (not exactly by choice) but i can't actually justify to myself fighting in a war. I do not have enough to protect that it would outweigh my life.
Were i to fight and return alive, my country would likely not compensate me in any meaningful way, and i would have to return to making a regular living as life continues to move on, possibly leaving me to struggle with mental and physical problems from the war.
While serving, i ended up asking my fellow trainees what they thought about fighting and if they would want to come.
Some i mentioned to that i would likely not be interested in fighting tried to convince me otherwise, be a man, etc, quite a few seemed quite willing, some even excited to come in case of war. Others planned to join the military immediately after finishing the 11 months of training. We also had some like me who didn't intend to come or intended to flee, or thought the whole thing was a waste of time and they'd rather be working or studying.
I wrote this meandering and aimless comment just to share a little bit of my experience, but there's unfortunately no conclusion here. I didn't do a study or anything, so only my general observations remained.
What was it like?
"Our war is a spiritual war. Our great depression is our lives."
I always use this analogy to put things into perspective, imagine the kid who got shipped from the backwoods to storm normamdy and got headshot off the break. No chance, never seen outside his town, drove a car, had a gf etc.
Growing up I would hear my grandfather speaking ill of WW2 veterans. I thought he did this out of a twisted jealousy as he shirked the war at the time. But after talking it over with my dad I sort of realized that he was trying to impart to me how useless their sacrifice was. He was a tough man who didn’t care what other people thought but he loved his family and hated war so he never once said anything positive about honor or glory.
Ever seen Rambo I? It’s a story about veteran hate.
"Out in the field, we had a code. I watch your back, you watch mine. Back here there's NOTHING!"
You don't need to be a veteran to grasp that last part today.
Veterans of the Vietnam war got a taste of how shitty society actually is...
If i get drafted, there'll be alot of "deletions"
Of women. 👌
That's one part of being in the military that bothered me. The words honor, duty, and hero were thrown around as though everyone were. In reality, some had seen war, fewer saw any danger. The rest of us saw mandatory classes and PMCS in the motor pool.
I wasn't a hero. It wasn't a duty or a job of honor. It was work, and I got my wages.
I'm a current officer in the military, and it wasn't until a few years ago that I realized just how biased it is towards single men.
Despite their separation, married service members get more time off, more pay, and more of a psychological sense of motivation and purpose.
Single women don't stay single for long, and they're often given less/easier work and reprimands for their mistakes. Also, by being more prone to injury, they spend much of their time with medical appointments.
In general, I partly joined because I saw it as a rite of passage that all great philosophers had to go through in their time. The other more pragmatic reason is that if a major war kicked off, I would have enough rank to position myself in a strategically safe position.
And yet you’re still in it
you forgot the fact that womens in the military use pregnancy card all the time to get out of deployment lol
Which branch? I’m going to guess navy
Im interested in your line of reasoning. Why could it be considered a rite of passage for philosophers. Philosophers are notoriously slandered as 'thinkers' rather than 'doers', and the military is a lot about doing.
Or are you referencing that ancient saying: If you your figthers dont think, you will be defended by fools, and if your scholars dont fight you will be lead by cowards.?
Please let me know. Thank you!
Herein lies the difference between a real country and an economic zone. Men don't want to fight for the latter
Even with all the glorification of the World War Two veteran every single family member I had (they are all gone now) had psychological problems. They were left untreated and many had problems that they tried to bury with occasional binge drinking. I remember great-aunts from time to time calling my grandmother saying uncle so and so had a nightmare and he’s fallen off the wagon again. It applied to a Vietnam veteran in the family too. I heard my grandad talking about civil war veterans that he knew going through the same misery. War is not honorable or noble. It destroys men’s souls that’s why every time I hear women drone on about wanting to fight like men for their “country” I think they don’t know they are being used in some political game to make such claims.
America since WW2 fights wars that whether we win or lose, have no effect on daily life in America at all.
Someone explain to me why America's military should be larger than that of Canada or Mexico.
Mexico, for example, doesn't operate a single fighter plane or bomber.
I served in the US military from 1978 till 1984. I got out and work two full-time jobs for years plus overtime. I was never home always working
But little did I know in 1980s throughout that decade the Reagan administration made multiple cuts to the veterans benefits to the point where I’m no longer eligible for VA medical care because I make too much money
Of course I did wasn’t aware of the changes I was too busy working now I’m in my 60s and for a little parade of time I had no health insurance so I automatically went to the VA for something for the first time in my life and what was I told I was no longer eligible for VA medical care
See if you make overs about $60,000 a year in the state of New Jersey the state where property taxes are 15 to 30,000 a year on a home you’re no longer eligible for VA medical care for veterans in my group but we were at one time
At the same time, the VA health Institute of a 3.25 funding fee for mortgages for most veterans.
Yeah, you can turn around and get first time homebuyer programs in the state, put money down toward your down payment a little on the closing cost
Believe me, I learned the hard way screw America I would just turn my back for invaded. I’ll learn another language I don’t care. I have no love for this country.
Remember. When the “Greatest Generation” came home from their winning war, they were thanked by hippies burning their Old Glory just to spite them.
I couldnt imagine lineing up to die for people that hates me and refer to men in general as toxic
"Everything that you've hoped for, that you've dreamed about being a part of, is a fabrication. Your art, your writing, your culture is the shell of other men's ambitions - ambitions beyond what you will ever understand."
The inclination to do what is necessary to protect those you love is truly an honorable instinct. The powers that be prey on this instinct and use it to their own ends. It's tragic that we always fall for it.
This was hidden from my search
It is super new, I just saw it in my rec'd
I know one story is just an antedate. My son’s close friend joined the marines during Iraq 2. Just out of boot camp and meeting his platoon another soldier sucker punch him and broke his jaw. After his 1st deployment he was back home for Christmas and stopped by to see my son. He told him that if he was going to be deployed again he was going self delete. Fortunately, he was not called back.
It's all part of being in the human "club". You have to accept the doctrine and toe the line, or you could get ostracized.
3:08 _“Americans in 1950 rediscovered something that since Hiroshima they had forgotten: you may fly over a land forever; you may bomb it, atomize it, pulverize it and wipe it clean of life-but if you desire to defend it, protect it, and keep it for civilization, _*_you must do this on the ground, the way the Roman legions did, by putting your young men into the mud_*_ .”_
― T. R. Fehrenbach, This Kind of War: The Classic Military History of the Korean War
"War is a racket" Smedley Butler
A true hero.
Hey it looks like he read my comment on his rip spetnaz video where i called out that saying RIP isnt for the dead, its to comfort the living and feel better about yourself and death. Tillman and spetznaz will never hear your RIPs, so do they really matter?
War never changes.
yes, i joined the navy because i was poor and i had no money for college or job skills. it was a very tough job. it was not about rah rah the flag thats for sure haha
Well, like they say, the military is a supply service that dabbles in combat from time to time.
@@johnnymidnight2982 truth
I'm running into your comments in alot of the channels I watch and it looks like we are on the same path. Neat...and hello.
@@expatlifestyle2000 yes true
Say hello anytime !
@@expatlifestyle2000 subbed!
Love the Philippines
good video. In the absence of religious meaning, young men could still find value in serving country but that's been taken away also. The US Military (and many foreign nations) have sacrificed their reputations for the sake of DEI BS. "We Want You" has been replaced by "Die for Zog" in the young male zeitgeist. I really like how a meme can sum up a complex idea in such few words.
Dei bs? So black men fighting for america and then being lynched in their uniforms is what?
Honor is a fool's prize, glory is of no use to the dead.
The number of times i was punished for doing what is right,meanwhile seen others bein rewarded when doing the opposite...No more
I wouldn’t mind dying for my country if I thought I was dying for something. If I believed that I wasn’t dying for protect. If I thought that I could have a family waiting. But we don’t have that
Excellent analysis Stardusk.
Your content is like a fine wine, just keeps getting better with time..
Big problems coming
Time to listen to Alice in Chains "Rooster" again.
Best song ever
You beat me to it. Good call.
The story behind the song is pretty dang cool
Gratitude doesn't last.
I'm still here. And you are correct I was 22 years old while fighting in Fallujah Iraq.
I think some of the bitterness that Vietnam vets and many other Americans had was not just the war, but it came to light we had been sending people their since the 50s. Many felt the government had deliberately decided them...and we suffered the same fate as the French...
Their illusions and gaslighting tactics are crumbling each day.
-The Creator wins
"Soldiers were appreciated in the past" - then explain the bonus marchers
There is a Rudyard Kipling poem about 'Tommie this and tommie that'
It was ever thus
My dad fought in WW2 ,since he was denied the GI bill he never discussed his time in the Navy he was never bitter about him being taken advantage of.
Truth is the first causality of war! I learned from it.
The etymology of the word honour comes from Greek, closely matching popularity in definition. What's popular is not always good for the individual.
Nope. Honour is a word that originates from Latin etymological.
@thinking-ape6483 You're correct about the word itself on the basis of spelling. To clarify, I was referring to a philosophical use of the word translated into modern English. I was attempting to show how the ideal of honor has been used to exploit people's tribal nature. Or, rather, the desire to feel accepted and belong.
Currently people complain that the US or Europe is sending so much money to Ukraine. actually all that money is coming back somehow even the politician said the quiet part out loud at all that money you sent go to the defense contractors
Dont care. Never voted to fund a border squirmish..
and cash to Z to spend on mansions and coke.
Until the UN, we had a War Department. Since then it has been a Department of Defense. Not much difference in words; but huge in purpose.
Politicians always seem to come up with an excuse as to why they can't fight their own wars. Isn't it amazing how that works?
I used to think that way, but started to notice examples from Vets of the targets. Basically, like literally bombing barrels of fuel while avoiding the tanker in the harbor. The "war" was mostly fought to get them to negotiate, not to win. Imagine the Monuments Men movie being in charge and avoiding significant targets. Later presidencies the targets evolved from things like an empty airfield to active rail yard as an example. There was even a plan to march up the Ho Chi Minh trail.
There is a difference between fighting for ones country or ones government. I will fight for my country, not the government
Life is suffering, wear it with honor
Thanks for the video Stardusk.