This is exactly what I was looking for. The people that had the house before me did the exact same BS wiring job as shown in a video where they just have the wire connected to the fixture and I actually have the fixture screwed into the wall. I didn't know this until I went to change it. I've seen the connection boxes for the ceiling, but never saw one for the wall. This is so helpful thank you so much.
Your vent fan video was extremely helpful, as this one will be as well. I just removed my vanity light, installed by someone else 25 years ago, and there's no box at all! The wire connections were just shoved behind the drywall. Crazy and scary.
The metal junction box is now linked in the description box with the old work, tools and hole saw. Thanks for all your comments and questions! Good on you all for moving your lights where you want them.
I came across this video when looking up some terminology from another video. SO helpful! I knew exactly what to ask for at the hardware store and now have a lovely new bathroom light installed.
Hello Daru! Thank you so much for this. My dad used to put his arm around me in 2017, but now he just falls down the stairs in Oklahoma City where you reside. Under the west lol! Thanks again.
0:22 Looks about like what I discovered about the ceiling fans/lights in our living room. When we went to change the fan I found that it isn't on an electrical box, but instead screwed to a joist with the wires coming through a hole in the ceiling.
My vanity light just had wires shoved into the drywall with no electrical box! This video is so helpful! I ordered a new electrical box but it didn’t come with a mounting ring for the box. Did that come with your new light or do you have a link for that as well?
Yes it’s similar but you have to use a box that is rated for ceilings. Or install blocking in behind your drywall and install the box on the blocking/wood. It needs to be well secured. I don’t have a video on that but I’m sure there’s a good one out there! Good luck!
I have a bathroom light fixture that I need to move over to be centered with the sink. This video was helpful, but what if the wires are not long enough to reach the new junction box? Do I have to leave the old junction box, connect (pigtail) the wires to the new junction box and put an ugly plate cover over the old junction box hole? Or is there a better way to do this when the wires inside the wall are not long enough to reach?
And please do one where there is already a switch on the wall for the fan. Most fans come with a remote, which made it a little more confusing. I could not find any videos for this. Can both the wall switch and remote be used or do I have to choose one?
Daru, I have an older (77-78) built home and both of my baths had combination medicine chest / lights. The builders just poked a hole in the dry wall and pushed the romex through. I had to install boxes for both baths. Come to find out , when I replaced a dishwasher , same issue... This must have been the norm at the time of construction...
This was great thank you. I have a questions as a new DIYer...how come the electrical box does not need to be attached to a stud? Is it because the clips are enough? Thank you.
@@ArgonKripton the box has clips that expand to hold tight onto the back of the drywall. No backing or stud needed. Simple and effective for wall mount.
I just checked and I don’t have one. Would like to get you one! They should be available at your local electrical supply companies. They have American made brands or in Canada at Home Depot.
Thanks Luis! This one I installed is the most known electrical brand in Canada, Iberville. In the US, there are several well known manufacturers of metal electrical boxes. Also called Rework octagon boxes. I would be confident using their metal boxes too. If your local hardware store doesn't have them I'd check with an electrical supply company in your area.
@@DaruDhillon I’ve been looking for the metal box to!! But I can’t find the one with the parts on the back that grab onto the dry wall like the one you have here. 😥 how would I describe it when looking for it.? Could you maybe supply a link for online?
Thanks! I would take the end of a small drywall knife to press in the hole so that it makes a small indent (slightly concave). Then you could fill it with spackle it’s pink when wet, dries fast and turns white when it’s ready to be sanded with a fine grit sandpaper. If one coat isn’t perfect you can always add another light coat, and light sand until smooth. Prime the hole so that the drywall is sealed and paint. It’s a quick job you can do on your own. Hope that helps and good luck with your project!
Studs aren’t fun in this case. They sell pancake boxes that are very flat but you can only have one wire in them. Sometimes you are limited based on structure and length of wire.
Putting in the blue, I was hoping to see how you make sure the screw holes for the bracket are level. I'm attaching a long four bulb fixture and if the box isn't level in the hole, the whole fixture would be tilted.
Excellent question. Before cutting into your wall I would check how much extra length you have in your wire. This will determine how far you can move it over.
How do I move the electrical box when a structure is in the way? We need to move the electrical box to be in the middle of the sink but there is a structure in the middle. Thank you.
In some cases you can use a pancake box, which is a special electrical box with a shallow depth to allow for one 14/2 wire. It’s important to follow your local electrical codes so I don’t know what is allowed specifically for your area.
I know this is an old video but I’m moving my vanity light about 4 inches lower because new fixture won’t fit. What happens if there isn’t enough length of wires?
Hi Natalie, if there isn’t enough wire it can’t be moved unless you run at new wire. All electrical connections need to be in a junction box. Positive vibes your way that you’ll have enough.
Good question. You are limited to moving the fixture by the amount of wire you have. You can pull to see if you have extra. Otherwise you get into running a new wire.
Excellent question Racheal. You can only move your light over as far as your wires will reach. Otherwise it becomes a more complicated project where you need to fish new wires. You can always remove your light fixture to check first to see if it’s possible. Good luck your project! I appreciate the question. 👍🏽
@@DaruDhillon i could spend all day listening to you. Do you read? You should consider making audiobooks, I'll take one of each if so. Please and thank you.
@@DaruDhillon you're very welcome. In my opinion. It's like this, there's newscasters,sports announcers,gameshow hosts, ect. And they're good. But then there's those voices that grab your attention and stand out from the rest. You belong on HGTV, discovery channel, my headphones.
This is exactly what I was looking for. The people that had the house before me did the exact same BS wiring job as shown in a video where they just have the wire connected to the fixture and I actually have the fixture screwed into the wall. I didn't know this until I went to change it. I've seen the connection boxes for the ceiling, but never saw one for the wall. This is so helpful thank you so much.
@@jig1056 glad it was helpful to you. And good on you for fixing your wiring! A+
Exactly what I needed to know without a lot of extra “production” a lot of other creators love to add. Thanks for the education.
Love that! Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.
Your vent fan video was extremely helpful, as this one will be as well. I just removed my vanity light, installed by someone else 25 years ago, and there's no box at all! The wire connections were just shoved behind the drywall. Crazy and scary.
Good on you for learning how to fix it and making it safe. Well done! It’s good to hear from you.
@@DaruDhillon all credit goes your way! I'll be installing an "old man box" this weekend haha. And likewise! Always good to see your content.
@@timf5963 ha,ha! That’s awesome. 👏🏽
The metal junction box is now linked in the description box with the old work, tools and hole saw. Thanks for all your comments and questions! Good on you all for moving your lights where you want them.
Love that RUclips algorithm too. Glad you found us and that you are patching drywall too!
I am so glad that the algorithm FINALLY showed me your channel! This is so clearly shown and you provide the “why”. Subscribed!
Thank-you, welcome!
I came across this video when looking up some terminology from another video. SO helpful!
I knew exactly what to ask for at the hardware store and now have a lovely new bathroom light installed.
Fantastic! Love that you were able to fix the issue and get what you wanted. Thanks :)
Hello Daru! Thank you so much for this. My dad used to put his arm around me in 2017, but now he just falls down the stairs in Oklahoma City where you reside. Under the west lol! Thanks again.
DARU, YOU HAVE BECOME MY FAVORITE! THESE VIDEOS ARE SO INFORMATIVE, HELPFUL, DETAILED AND FUN TO WATCH!
Wow, thanks! Trying to get better as we go.
Any further series to repair the drywall? You are leaving a big hope there!
I have a drywall playlist on my main page. Lots of helpful videos there! Thanks for your question.
0:22 Looks about like what I discovered about the ceiling fans/lights in our living room. When we went to change the fan I found that it isn't on an electrical box, but instead screwed to a joist with the wires coming through a hole in the ceiling.
It’s good you were able to fix it and make it safe. 👍🏽
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Excellent video that teaches what I wanted to learn. Great instruction. Subscription earned!
Thanks Anthony! Appreciate the sub and I hope you find more videos that are helpful to you.
My vanity light just had wires shoved into the drywall with no electrical box! This video is so helpful! I ordered a new electrical box but it didn’t come with a mounting ring for the box. Did that come with your new light or do you have a link for that as well?
Thank you! This is easier than I expected!
It is! Glad that you are DIYing it! Good luck Amy and thanks.
Hello! Great video! I wanted to know if it was possible to do the same thing for moving a wall light to the ceiling (if the wires are long enough)
Yes it’s similar but you have to use a box that is rated for ceilings. Or install blocking in behind your drywall and install the box on the blocking/wood. It needs to be well secured. I don’t have a video on that but I’m sure there’s a good one out there! Good luck!
I have a bathroom light fixture that I need to move over to be centered with the sink. This video was helpful, but what if the wires are not long enough to reach the new junction box? Do I have to leave the old junction box, connect (pigtail) the wires to the new junction box and put an ugly plate cover over the old junction box hole? Or is there a better way to do this when the wires inside the wall are not long enough to reach?
Short wires need rewiring or replacement. Much bigger job so cross you fingers or think positive thoughts that you have slack.
@@DaruDhillon 🤞 Fingers crossed. That would be a lot of drywall to repair.
CAN YOU MAKE A VIDEO FOR CEILING FAN INSTALL AND REPLACEMENT? WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT!
That would be a great idea! I should do that. 👍🏽
And please do one where there is already a switch on the wall for the fan. Most fans come with a remote, which made it a little more confusing. I could not find any videos for this. Can both the wall switch and remote be used or do I have to choose one?
Do you have a video of relocating the elec box in a ceiling approximately six feet.
I don’t have one yet for ceiling boxes. It’s a good one to do. I’ll put it on my list! Glad you’re doing it on your own!
Daru, I have an older (77-78) built home and both of my baths had combination medicine chest / lights. The builders just poked a hole in the dry wall and pushed the romex through. I had to install boxes for both baths. Come to find out , when I replaced a dishwasher , same issue... This must have been the norm at the time of construction...
This was great thank you. I have a questions as a new DIYer...how come the electrical box does not need to be attached to a stud? Is it because the clips are enough? Thank you.
Hi! For these boxes the clips are enough as long as your light fixture isn’t too heavy. They come in handy! Good to see you DIYing! 👍🏽
what did u attach the new box to ? i didnt see any stud there? or just a kind of clips?
@@ArgonKripton the box has clips that expand to hold tight onto the back of the drywall. No backing or stud needed. Simple and effective for wall mount.
@@DaruDhillon nice that is beautiful
Do you have a link for the metal retrofit box? Thanks
I just checked and I don’t have one. Would like to get you one! They should be available at your local electrical supply companies. They have American made brands or in Canada at Home Depot.
Great info! What is the brand name of the metal box? That's exactly what I'm needing since the vanity lights I want to install are almost 8lbs each
Thanks Luis! This one I installed is the most known electrical brand in Canada, Iberville. In the US, there are several well known manufacturers of metal electrical boxes. Also called Rework octagon boxes. I would be confident using their metal boxes too. If your local hardware store doesn't have them I'd check with an electrical supply company in your area.
@@DaruDhillon
I’ve been looking for the metal box to!! But I can’t find the one with the parts on the back that grab onto the dry wall like the one you have here. 😥 how would I describe it when looking for it.? Could you maybe supply a link for online?
I love ❤how you say say tem-plate. 😊
Great video! Thank you!
Good to hear from you Cindy! Love to see more women like you doing this type of work.
Great video!!! Thanks for the help!!
My pleasure Tabitha! Good luck with your project.
Thank you!
Where do you ground the copper while in the old work box (blue one)?
What do you do if the wire is too short to move to the new location? Can you attach 14/2 wire to it?
Thanks. Just saved me a lot of grief.
Happy to help. Got to love RUclips for that!
How would you recommend patching the first hole (small one)? Great video, thank you!
Thanks! I would take the end of a small drywall knife to press in the hole so that it makes a small indent (slightly concave). Then you could fill it with spackle it’s pink when wet, dries fast and turns white when it’s ready to be sanded with a fine grit sandpaper. If one coat isn’t perfect you can always add another light coat, and light sand until smooth. Prime the hole so that the drywall is sealed and paint. It’s a quick job you can do on your own. Hope that helps and good luck with your project!
@@DaruDhillon Thank you!
That was fun, thank you!
Great to hear, thanks!
How do you find the the wires in the wall to install the wall lamps im having trouble
You can move the electrical box that is attached to your light fixture.
Exactly what I needed! Thank you!
Thanks Rebecca!! Great to see more women learning these skills. Hats off to you!
Where can I find the metal retrofit box?
Great advice 👍❤
Thanks so much!!
What if there is a stud in the way? It is only half in the way though, so not enough overlap to mount to the face of the stud with a .5"
Studs aren’t fun in this case. They sell pancake boxes that are very flat but you can only have one wire in them. Sometimes you are limited based on structure and length of wire.
What size hole saw did you use here?
I used a 4 inch hole saw for this.
Question. I am doubling sheet rock for sound protection. .
how do we know the back wings were opened after screw them? ( when you push in, they are closed. )
You’ll feel it pull tight to your wall. It will also stay put and won’t move.
Putting in the blue, I was hoping to see how you make sure the screw holes for the bracket are level. I'm attaching a long four bulb fixture and if the box isn't level in the hole, the whole fixture would be tilted.
You can use a small speed level (torpedo level) to make sure the mounting holes are level. Thanks for pointing that out! It’s a good point. 👍🏽
Most new fixtures are a 2 part bracket system, one is stationary and the other attached to it swivels so you don't have that problem.
@@kfiscal01 Thanks James for the tip! Most adjust. Cheers!
What do I do if there isn’t enough give in the wire? I haven’t taken anything down yet, but figured I’d ask before I start switching stuff out! Lol
Excellent question. Before cutting into your wall I would check how much extra length you have in your wire. This will determine how far you can move it over.
thank you so much
You're welcome!
How do I move the electrical box when a structure is in the way?
We need to move the electrical box to be in the middle of the sink but there is a structure in the middle. Thank you.
In some cases you can use a pancake box, which is a special electrical box with a shallow depth to allow for one 14/2 wire. It’s important to follow your local electrical codes so I don’t know what is allowed specifically for your area.
How many inches of your hole saw?
Hi TQ, the hole saw is a 4". Thanks for the question!
@@DaruDhillon Thank you! Thank you for the trick to use reverse.
@@tqnguyen9658 My pleasure! Glad it’s working out for you. I find it really helpful too. 👍🏽
Wait but you said before I attach to the blue and then never went back to it. That’s where I’m stuck! How do you put the plate on the blue
You attach your mounting bracket to your electrical box with your two mounting screws. It’s the same way as the metal box.
I know this is an old video but I’m moving my vanity light about 4 inches lower because new fixture won’t fit. What happens if there isn’t enough length of wires?
Hi Natalie, if there isn’t enough wire it can’t be moved unless you run at new wire. All electrical connections need to be in a junction box. Positive vibes your way that you’ll have enough.
So a longer wire through the whole house??? Noooo
what if the wire is too short
Good question. You are limited to moving the fixture by the amount of wire you have. You can pull to see if you have extra. Otherwise you get into running a new wire.
What do I do if my wires aren’t long enough to reach the new hole?
Excellent question Racheal. You can only move your light over as far as your wires will reach. Otherwise it becomes a more complicated project where you need to fish new wires. You can always remove your light fixture to check first to see if it’s possible. Good luck your project! I appreciate the question. 👍🏽
Can't you pigtail?
your hair is amazing!
Thanks John!
I know where i wanna put it..😊
wow
Back at you Sean! 👊🏽
You wouldn't happen to be Canadian would you?
What gave me away? You guessed right.
@@DaruDhillon i could spend all day listening to you. Do you read? You should consider making audiobooks, I'll take one of each if so. Please and thank you.
@@hoodratstickfight292 That's very kind of you. Thanks for that!
@@DaruDhillon you're very welcome. In my opinion. It's like this, there's newscasters,sports announcers,gameshow hosts, ect. And they're good. But then there's those voices that grab your attention and stand out from the rest. You belong on HGTV, discovery channel, my headphones.
Any of those would be great :)
Hahaha this is exactly what we have in our house
It’s good that you’re taking care of it!
Don't snap your box, Daru!
Damn this woman is absolutely gorgeous!
HIGHLY inappropriate and DANGEROUS for a woman to be doing electrical work! I can’t believe her husband would allow this to go on!!!
please tell me you are joking