Why PHANTOMS (1998) Was The Bomb
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- "Phantoms" is a lot of things. It's cheap, messy, unintentionally funny and best remembered as a throwaway joke in "Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back"...so why am I still so fond of this not-quite-cult classic?
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Videos defending "failures" is my favorite part of RUclips.
I'll always defend failures that take a swing for the fences and miss in such a way that is worth applauding
When Phantoms finally starts to be more widely recognized as the underrated cult classic it is, this essay should be promptly featured on the boutique blu-ray release that it will (hopefully) receive. Great work!
Scream factory announcement today it's getting a 4k Blu ray release in july
I am so so so so happy to hear that! I'll be picking it up ASAP (Scream Factory usually do great transfers)
Oh yeah I'll be getting it to
''By successfully personifying it's fuckery'' might be my favourite thing anyone has ever said.
Running scared is a underrated masterpiece
the one with paul walker? that movie was awesome
A friend recommended the book, but I wasn't much of a reader at the time, so I was excited when the movie came out. I saw it with a friend at a late night showing at our local dollar theater after several beers at the bar next door. I would say I got my dollars worth. I enjoyed it for what it was, but I never felt the need to buy it on VHS or DVD. I've still only seen it once. I read the book a few years later and it scared to crap out of me. I loved it. It's still one of my favorite horror novels.
One of the only dean Koontz books I loved, it read like a pulpy fun Stephen King book
Ben didn't practice his Lion face/Lemon Face routine in Phantoms, that's why he is so stiff.
A rookie mistake
I watched this movie when I was 10, I am 29 now. I live in germany. This movie terrified me and left such an impact on me, that I was able to find it again after 19 years just be remembering certain keywords and asking chatgpt. This proofs that horror movies impact kids for sooo long. I dont mean it in a bad way. I am just flabbergasted. Love the movie
I haven't thought about this movie in FOREVER. brought back some memories. Definitely need a re-watch.
It is by no means a "good" film - but it's extremely interesting, unusual and fuckin' weird
@@inframeoutcould that not make a good film. You showed clips from deep blue sea witch i do not consider a faliure. It still may be the best shark movie we got(yeah i know jaws exisits but im tired of talking about it)
6:46 Joe Chappelle told O'Toole to give him three different nos and they would use the best one, but then he forgot and used all of them.
I like Dean Koontz and I'd like to see more of his work adapted. He needs someone to do for his work what Reiner and Darabont did for King, someone who will put as much care into crafting his characters as he did.
Oh my god that's fucking hilarious 🤣 Poor Peter O'Toole
I was suggested this by the Tubes after searching Phantoms clips, because I remember this film fondly. Specifically the earlier parts of it, where I felt they really captured the eerie emptiness of the town well. That aside, surprised you don't have more views on this judging from the quality you're putting out. You've got a sub from me.
Honestly, I'd love to see M Night do film adaptations of a few Koontz stories
I have really fond memories of Phantoms.
Finally watched it tonight, after meaning to since Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. Much better than I expected considering how little I've heard it referenced.
This movie was sick. My cousin had it on VHS at their cabin, and we’d watch it every summer we’d visit.
I've always loved Phantoms, if maybe for the wrong reasons. I'd already read the novel, thoroughly enjoyed it and found the premise terrifying. To me it wasn't a question of how bad the movie would be, rather whether they could convey the fear of the Ancient Enemy. I don't think they succeeded for the usual reason; with the literary medium you can get inside a persons thoughts, feel their fear and it transfers onto you. Nobody in this movie seemed appropriately scared.
Totally agree. The novel has a far more potent ambience and ambiguity to the Ancient Enemy that the film just can't capture
God this video brought back some stuff that's been repressed for decades now. I caught this on a premium cable movie channel sometime around 2000/1 and remember having a lot of fun with it. Even then though, I knew it didn't have anything on the 80s Blob, which it reminded me a lot of, so I pretty much just forgot about it. I remember the jokes in JASB, but I guess even that wasn't enough to jog my memory about it. I'm going to take note of it and give it a rewatch some time just to see what I think of it now.
Don't expect it to be some earth shattering, unsung classic - but it is just weird enough to warrant reappraisal as a forgotten curiosity that tried and failed
AFFLECK YOU DA BOMB IN PHANTOM YOOOOO!
There's a 99% chance that Ben Affleck may one day explode from the sheer bombness of his performance in "Phantoms"
I have this movie in my top 50 genre movies. No joke. Love the cosmic horror and general creepyness.
Affleck was the bomb in Phantoms, yo!
Affleck is many things...including an actual bomb in the film "Phantoms"
we had a tape of this movie when i was a kid and it always scared the hell out of me but I kept it always kept me coming back until my siblings and I wore out the tape.
I was terrified of this movie as a kid
I think you've swiftly become my favorite film essayist. Very well done.
Rare film that was a cult classic Koontz book turned movie. Great that they kept it on point to source material,and also great cast and effects.
What made the book good was the build up and the atmosphere. One thing it didn't do was jump scares. It kept "the blob" shape nature hidden as long as possible. Plus the sisters in the book was of very different age, the younger was very much a child.
The movie on the other hand, was just jump scares.
Affleck was acceptable in some films, yo!
"Affleck is a better director than actor, yo!"
every few years I randomly think about this movie while desperately trying to remember its name, it was my favorite horror movie until i saw "the thing" from 1987 so im glad i have now found a video talking about it
For a couple of years when I was young, I was really in to Dean Koonts. Phantoms was one of my favorites, and I thought the movie did an okay job with it. Of course, if I was over 15 when I saw it, I'd be surprised.
Long live the Ancient Enemy.
2:51 is a quote I'm gonna have to remember
Here’s the thing about my relationship with Phantoms and how it became one of my favorite horror films: I was 11-12 years old when it first came out in theaters. I never saw it in theaters, because I was too young and the commercials spots alone made me feel uneasy, to say the least. But when it came to VHS and subsequently cable, I watched it and it gave me all the thrills and chills I had expected.
Fast-forward to the year 2009, I had all but forgotten about the film. That is until one day I had to kill some time in a library, I stumbled upon Dean Koontz’s novel and remembered the film I hadn’t seen since I was a boy. So I decided to read it and became hooked. I’m not an avid reader, mind you, but Dean Koontz’s novel really had me hooked. And the novel was so compelling that it made me appreciate the movie and its attempt of adaptation.
If you’ve read the novel, you’d appreciate the film more; in my opinion, at least
Dude you nailed it it’s so good for this film to finally get some props. I love this film.
Phantoms is a great movie, the first film I saw in theaters 🎉
I watch Phantoms from time to time I like it !
Oh I actually think the saving Grace is the look of the movie. Very atmospheric.
sooooo underrated
I love Phantoms. People just dont know. I'd love a remake. I found the ancient evil really interesting. Especially the when they were mixing in historical moments. I could listen to Peter Otoole talk about stuff all day.
I ❤ PHANTOMS
I think it was a great movie and still is
(In response to 12:18) On the topic of films that I love despite them being immensely flawed, my favorite movie of that description would be Split Second from 1992. It's a movie that had a troubled production due to constant rewrites but by god am I grateful for that specific series of mishaps because the end result is a masterpiece of 90s schlock. The overly crass dialogue, hammy acting from literally everyone, a scene of Alistair Duncan busting out laughing that they just left in the film, characters doing weird shit for no reason, the demon going from kinda creepy to basically just trolling Rutger Hauer's character, the plot that sounds like it's making itself up as it goes along, I LOVE IT. It's a film that is trying to be a dystopian monster flick with occult overtones but you'd probably enjoy it more if you go in expecting Shadowrun: The Buddy Cop Comedy. It's one of those movies where you're not sure if the cast were taking it as seriously as possible or if they knew what kind of movie they were making and just cranked up the ham factor. I could go on for hours about why I love it so much but this is already a heaping wall of text as it is.
"Like a wayward lamb mistaking passing cars for their mother." LMAO
I love this movie idk why haha I made a modern trailer for it lat year cuz it deserves to be recognized lol
Saw this flick in the theatre upon release. It was creepy as shit and that was good enough for me..
I watched this movie when it came out because I had a crush on Joanna Going.
I love Koontz when he writes Hallmark Christmas fodder like this. It's the best.
This should be used as the best model for the next resident evil movies series
The Stuff is referenced in this essay, I recall seeing that as a kid and thinking it was pretty good. Is that worth a rewatch with an adult's eyes? I am thinking the answer is "yes", but I wanted to get some reaction here.
It's so much nasty satirical fun
how I miss when 90s horror films gathered in a list talent
I just watched Phantoms and I loved it.
( I also love Plan 9 From Outer Space)
The book was great, i knew right away that'd be a movie.
I graduated in 99 and this is still one of my favorite scary movies. just creepy.
It's a darn good time
watched it last night the limbo scene cracked me up
The book was very good. I read the book first. The film was good and better than others of the tiime considering the level of CGI then available
WARGLE is the ancient Enemy.
Me watching Phantoms on a rented VHS tape as a 9 year old: Couldn't sleep the night I saw it, mentally scarred to the point of having nightmares inspired by it for years, and waking moments were spent in fear that the events of the movie were going to happen in reality.
Me watching Phantoms on CyTube in 2022: IT'S LIMBO TIME! HOW LOW CAN YA GO?!
Me watching it as a child - "Oh my god that dog is horrifying"
Me watching as a grown ass man - "Did...did that dog just give Ben Affleck the stink eye?"
Jay and Silent Bob was right!!!
Phantoms was not perfect but it's definitely in my top ten horror favorites.
I Wonder if the books any better I remember reading like half of it in high school but I don’t remember if it was better than the movie
Have you ever the Dean Koontz Odd Thomas book series.
i like this channel.
Roanoke has pretty much been figured out, actually.
Affleck was the BOMB! in phantoms, yo! Phantoms like a mother f*cker!
.what is it about a small empty community that gets an easy shiver outta me? .thanks ill check this out -oh i would love to hear your perspective on giallo films, from the Italian damsel killing thrillers of the past to the neo loveletters and remakes such as Amer and Suspiria
I'll tell you this right now - I LOVED "Amer", and adore the golden age of Giallo. For another modern example - I highly recommend "In Fabric"
@@inframeout .i actually have In Fabric because of a best of 2019 (i think) video you made, so beautiful, thank you and i dont know what your next report will be on but I'll be first in line to see it
The videos we're currently working on are about "Straw Dogs", the sentimentality of Steven Spielberg, "Phone Booth" and a few other things we've got cooking 🤠
@@inframeout .ill be waiting like a loyal mut at the front door🐶
Lol I was legit scared of phantoms when I was a kid.
The movie is ok, but the book is so good.
I argue Phantoms was the best Resident Evil movie ever made.
It definitely has similar vibes for sure
The first half of the film is incredible, but the second half doesn't live up to the build up.
cool video....too many ads
Awkward farts of kitschy rubbish? Never thought I'd hear that sentence.
I had a bad experience with Kevin Smith last year on Twitter, but I will still declare that Ben Affleck was the bomb in Phantoms, Yo!
Kevin Smith is born of the "Dish out out but can't take it" school of pop cultural critique.
Such a underrated movie, I really loved it and thought it's ending was far better than the books. And I disagree with the narrators reasoning for it being bad and pretty much most of the negative things said.
Liev Schreiber on 5 rails of coke? 🤣
Voyagers is my mess favourite
Commenting again for the algorithm.
Lifeforce is a brilliantly crap film I enjoy very much. Wanted isn't "good" in the traditional sense but I love it. The remake of I Spit On Your Grave is obviously pish but I've watched it more times than I'd care to admit (I certainly wouldn't ever put that I liked it in a RUclips comment for example). But the absolute best maligned movie ever made, in my humble opinion, is... Excalibur. There's something about it that I just absolutely adore. I know what its flaws are but I do not care one bit. I consider it a genuine masterpiece, always have, always will. And I'll let anyone who disagrees stab me with a spear, then pull myself along it before thrusting a sword into their neck so that we both die whilst the sun sets...
Or instead I'll lay out a robust defence of why I like it. Either good.
"Lifeforce" is so spectacular in so many ways. You're literally watching Cannon films burn the last of their cash on an erotic zombie vampire sci-fi hybrid in which none of those elements work! Also - Patrick Stewart gets all kinds of weird.
@@inframeout Hahaha YES. It's a wonderful death rattle.
Evil black goo monster.
Aku?
Yo
I rented this via RUclips based on your video. You owe me $3.99 and an hour and a half of my life back.
I said "I like it" - I don't say it's good (I spend quite a large section of the video saying it's almost certainly not)
I've never watched it precisely BECAUSE it was a Kevin Smith joke. That's not a diss at Smith - those will come later - but it somehow confirmed it would be crap. And the poster is beyond generic.
But it looks like misfiring fun - sometimes the BEST kind of fun. I'll check it out - for Big Pete O'Toole alone.
It's not great but if you keep your expectations in check it's fun
I thought this was a good bad flicks video lmao
I've never actually watched any of their stuff - so I am choosing to take this as a compliment :-)
You reading this better sub to IFO otherwise ima put on my big boy pants! Gator don’t play no shit!
"There is a darkness inside of me. It wants to get out, it wants to walk around. It wants some walkin' around money."
@@inframeout Allen been kept me inside for so long iv become an entity on RUclips! I need that walking round money! You feel me!
a good edit could make the movie better
"It was marginally better than 'Watchers'" is the best compliment I can give to "Phantoms".
EDIT: Moreover, Affleck was, unequivocally, the bomb in it.
Hey, I'll take it (god "Watchers" wasn't just bad - they literally forged documents to trick Keanu into starring in it)
@@inframeout Oh dear, there's an even worse "Watchers" starring a forged-documented Keanu Reeves than the Corey Haim/Golden Retriever v.s. Genetic Monstrosity "Watchers"?
NOW THIS I'VE GOT TO SEE
Compared to the book, a large brown bag of pooh.
You're not supposed to say bomb!
i just finished the book tonight and spent an hour in a half of time watching this garbage i cant believe how crap it was i watched the trailer about 4 chapters in and was excited to watch it good actors in it ben was good but man now i know what people mean when they say its not as good as the book lmao
Ben Affleck!!!
"Affleck was the bomb in Phantoms, yo!".
_morale ..._ what's that? /jk
I sincerely hope at least one person yelled "You were the bomb in 'Phantoms', yo!" to Peter O'Toole before he passed
I remember watching this movie as a kid and thinking throught out various point of the movie...."This is boring...this is kinda scary...eh, nope nevermind..........this movie is confusing, what IS the monster?!...this is boring again."
I had just finished games like Resident Evil 2 and wanted straight forward horror with a real stand up enemy...i guess thats why.
The Raleigh settlers didn't disappear in an instant. It took them 3 years to "disappear". And it is commonly believed that the settlers split up in groups to survive the summer. Which is what thr native Americans did too. The settlers didn't come back, like most people at the time because living with the Indians was much more desirable at the time, than building forts all day, and going to 6 hour Sunday services.
Thanks for the history lesson
O'Toole was the bomb
Full-stop.
Oh yeah, Affleck was the bomb in Phantoms, yo!
"Give up the ghost"
I see what you did there
I just watched Phantoms first time, now I get the self joke of Affleck in Jay and bob. Film was not very well known outside of USA, probably because its bombed, so I skipped its existence. But now I can says that its not bad, first half of it was good, second could be better, but I liked how it played with subversion of expectations and and even trolled cliches and Steven King with his aliens, military bases and toxic wastes, also mystic horror with generic devils and demons was trolled pretty nicely too and explanation of what's really going on and why it all looked like generic horrors was actually good. Sentient black goo that mimics knowledge and fears and starts to consider itself as god - is good idea. But execution is very flawed because many cliches movie tried to troll by showing them but then explaining them as black goo - doesn't logically connect with each other. If you absorbed all people immediately in whole town, how come it left some bodies? Why some of them was half melted, but not absorbed, why others was decapitated and disarmed? Why Sheriff and his group was intact? Why goo didn't touch him and sisters after they called for doctor? Why goo even need people to call for doctor if it could just absorb Sheriff, imitate him and then call for doctor to lure him in? Why if it just eats people and all the organics it didn't eat tasty heads and arms in bakery and also didn't ate wood, plastic, rubber and anything organic, but people? How does it control electricity? How it flashes lighting, gives calls to non working phones, causing sirens (that obviously inspired Silent hill devopers as well as attack of flying thing during meet with magically surviving cop)? And how the hell it destroys car engines without anyone noticing? Also how does the oil thing moves? Why does it leave no oily traces? Why it magically teleports in a matter of second and appears and dissappears ? How does it choose who to take and who doesn't take if it doesn't yet ate them or directly contacted them to know their thoughts? How goo mimiced boy killed by sheriff if it didn't absorb boy or sheriff and can't know how he looks and behaves? What's up with deputy played by Swiber? Why he was so crazy and wanted to show something and wanted to have fun with half melted body of women? There was not any logical explanation of that and many other things.
If screenplay was written better with attention to details and if director added missing attention to details this could have worked better and wouldn't cause such a disbelief. Half of movie just feels far fetched.
Also movie lacking suspense and tension. It should have used the thing as example, some of group members should already have been phantoms and it should have been surprise for viewers, and there should have been clear rules of how you cab get infected and absorbed by goo, there should have been paranoid tension between group members and some distrust. Maybe goo should have created hallucinations too by some neurotoxic glasses it creates, that would have made hard what's real and what is not and could explain why some people are going crazy. There should have been also some pseudo scientific explanation of why some pepeople can't be infected, like for example people who had trauma and suffered of high doses of adrenaline are resistant to it and so are more stable, while others are not. And adrenaline could be used as some sort of bait for goo, as it detects adrenaline and attacks only people who have a lot of it for long time, which would also justify Affleck lack of fear in face as after killing boy and constantly reminding about him to himself he became less emotional and less fearful, more adrenaline resistant and less adrenaline productive. One of sisters who is medic could be resistant too because she seen things in hew career that made her less emotional. While others could be weaker and more fearful and so more attractive to goo and more likely possible to see hallucinations and get infected and absorbed.
Also whole infection and absorption part could be played differently, people may not completely be killed but transformed and mind affected to believe they are part of god and immortal now. This could have added space for some cult in town as origin of events as they infected members on purpose and feed their goo god until it grew up and took out while city at once. Actually it could also be played that way that it doesn't have its individual mind, but its actually a collective give mind of people and animals that it absorbed. This could be even used for some inner conflict of goo, some of recent abortions, like one of sister, could have caused self destruction of goo in the end and some attempts of separation of those minds that wanted to survive. It could have been so epic and deep if it was done like that.
Damn, this movie deserves a remake, and wanna write remake screenplay the right way! 😎
Affleck was the bomb in Phantoms, yo!