Painting NMM has never been so easy!
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Right. Let me see if I can get through this one without buying any more paints...
Lol challenge accepted!
Amen. Marco really should be getting commission from the paint companies at this point ;)
After all, you've still got more Golden High-Flow Acrylics to buy.
I've managed to hold off buying the high flow golden acrylics (due to finding them hard to get)....but just about everything else...
Nope...nope. Can’t happen. I already have a hand full of oils for washes...now I need a whole line for oiling painting. Off to the store I go 🏃♂️
I'm getting to the point where I need these youtube tutorials less and less, but the joy I hear from Marco when he's teaching keeps me coming back.
Thanks for doing more Infinity. Not enough painting channels that cover these models.
I'd love to see a discussion on the mechanics of painting NMM. One of the struggles I've had with them is understanding the color relationships that NMM demands, since colors like silver reflect a lot of the light from the environment, thus the highlights and shadows reflect the sky and ground, but integrating that idea onto the model is a challenge. Especially on colored metals like gold, which cause the shadow and highlights to change color due to the hue of the surface.
Light placement is what I find the most difficult. I conceptually understand the ideas but when I put down lights things just don't look right.
@@dv_xl Not to take away from Marco's channel, but watch Kujo Painting's Real Ultimate Guide to NMM. It explains the basics of light placement very well.
@@bornincrimson I've watched it! I still struggle honestly. I just need more practice!
The problem often is that we look at the miniature in a realistic way with lightning but you have to approach thorough 'make belief'.
When Marco calls, I come and watch. Even if I have no interest in the particular model.
First time setting a reminder for a youtube video... Just that excited.
I'd have stopped after the makeup sponge, that desaturated violet armour was better than any I've ever painted! ;0)
Hahaha it's a good technique to paint white and off white!
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM I was thinking it would be nice for the whites on the Aleph models
Love the format of this one where you label the paints on the pallet... I'm colour blind and sometimes really struggle to follow the schemes but this makes a HUGE difference.
Wow. This is game changing. This method on say space marines 😲
Hot damn. Marco, when you get around to publishing your first book on painting techniques I’ll be first in line with wallet at the ready.
I wanted to asked for exactly this video. Awesome thx.
There is huge jump in between last footage of mini while you were painting it and final result. It looks amazing and definetly not like speedpainted.I can’t wait for more videos about oils. I’m becoming more and more interested in those :D
Ok, you win, Marco. I will try out NMM. But only if I can use oil paints!
This video is precisely about all that 😁 NMM is just painting with a crazy high contrast, nothing more, and oils take care of the soft blends between the value jumps😉
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM great video. One thing that very few tutorials cover is where the lights and shadows go on different shapes and different light source angles for NMM.
Very cool. I'd love to see more Infinity models as I'm just getting into the game. Aleph OSS or Nomads would be great tutorials :)
It'd also be cool to see him tackle something with less big flat surfaces, like an Ariadna model.
Man, I just love oil paints.
How do you go about prepping a metal miniature? I would love to see a tutorial on that.
Ah yes, in today's episode of "I have paints enough to last couple lifetimes ohhh that blending tho". I just can't get enough of your videos.
Mind blown again over the last few weeks. Thanks Marco! I am not that good at painting but I am having a blast following your videos, and the local art supply store staff now thinks I am some sort of competent artist when I come in.
Incredible and inspiring work! Been slowly building my collection of oils after your watching your Kingdom Death video. Working with oils has been some of the most satisfying painting I've ever done with minis!
I’ve only ever used acrylics when painting miniatures, but my dad has been painting landscapes on canvas with oils as his profession for the past 40 years… time to go raid his studio!
Another Brilliant video Marco! Just upping my painting game one video at a time.
Thank you Marco! I just did my first oil wash a couple of days ago and am graduating to oils over a whole model that has acrylic bases done :) Love your videos!
Brilliant! I would love to see you do a similar video for each faction in Infinity. Even just photos of your take on an oil NMM color scheme for each. You've convinced me that oils are my future in all my painting, not just miniatures. Love the channel, keep it up!
we need more infinity models painted
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
As an illustrator, I'm happy to have found a mini painter that keeps in mind hue and saturation when rendering lights ! Not the usual "add white to lighten" thing :D Keep it up !
looks amazing
Awesome as always Marco. Might get out the oils when I get home tonight...
Absolutely amazing, thank you so much for another masterclass video on oils.
More Infinity, nice!
Another amazing and in depth model Marco! Gotta get myself some NMM colors for transparency now
I just love your oil series! I hope you will also tackle one day painting a bust in display quality with oils :)
This is so amazing! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you ! Very good and simple advices to paint nmm...but that's all I need ^^
You are such a positive person! Really love your video!.
😁😊😁😘😘😘😘😘😘
Wow, that's amazing work for such a short period of time! I need to get practicing with oils!
Well done to Italy for bringing home the gold tonight!
😁😁😁
Wow...simply wow.
Dipped my toes into nmm with arcylics recently for the first time, guess there's no excuse now to compare it with acrylic+oils.
Thanks for sharing and motivating maestro 😁
You have been absolutely killing it lately with these oil videos! This can't be sitting well with Big Acrylic... Stay safe, Marco!
These oil videos are fascinating. So easy to get into and with great effects with such an easy learning curve.
Amazing job as always!
love how simple you made painting with oils, one of the mediums I dont use frequently. The blending brush is really magical, love what it does and what you did with this model.
Nice work! Looking forward to the more detailed video on NMM.
I love so much your videos and I hate so much your videos :) Just like Joss writing about buying paints - I watch, I browse, I buy everything you use - it is an obsession of a kind. Today I purchased infinity starter set (did not have this game yet cause was not very sure about metal minis). Same was with oil paints, spectrum yearly magazine, brushes, thingies for oil paints (although I use tea candles cups for mixing paints - cheap and disposable) and so on. Always waiting for your new ideas!
Hahahahaha sorry... but I can assure you that you'll have a ton of fun XD
Aaah! The usual mixed feelings with a new video: I want to watch It, but I know I will end up depressed because my poor painting skills...
Impressive Marco, as usual. Thanks for the video!
What an amazing video! Thanks Marco!
You and Wappel make this look like magic! I really need to sit down and give this some proper time to test out myself.
As always a joy to Watch. Now I will try a new approach to my Infinity models , for painting NMM with Acrylics is a pain in the ass for me. So i give Oils a try besides oilwashes... but first I need to plan my Nomads scheme with oils before buying a lot of Paints i dont need right now😂
Thanks a million man! Be sure to put Cadmium red in the cart 😉
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Thanks for the tip
Can you recommend some Books about painting with oils and color theory?
Marco, provo sentimenti contrastanti per te, ti adoro perchè mi hai fatto tornare la voglia di cimentarmi nella pittura, ma ti odio per la quantità di materiale che mi stai facendo scoprire e comprare! Insomma continua così!
Hahaha sta diventando il mio tema ufficiale! Sono tutte opzioni e idee, non farti prendere dall'ansia di prendere tutto :) Grazie mille ;)
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM non accadrà, ma sicuramente la spinta per l'acquisto dell'aerografo è tutta colpa tua 😂
Nice!
finally! an nmm tutorial that i can follow and understand!
Marco has done it again, mind blown, again.
You have officially inspired me to try using oils on my Shasvastii!
Instead of a cotton tip, I cut a tiny bit of the makeup sponge and force a toothpick halfway into it. Found this more comfortable to work with.
Super paint job 👏🥳. Problem is that your skill level is so high, that for you this is simple and easy, but it is next level for many of us 🤗
marvelous!
I recently bought Carnevale on a semi-whim to play more small-scale games and once i'm done with my current project i'm definitely going to try them using oils as that seems appropriate, after some test models of course. I suppose one advantage of oils on resin models is that in the worst case scenario you just go with the mineral spirits to strip them off rather than risk melting them with dettol/simple green/whatever.
I love the game and the models are perfect for these techniques!
Solid video as always Marco! 😊👍
Marco fantastic work as always. Sorry if you have already covered this but could you do a soul drinkers marine please.
I'm considering changing to oils after painting acrylics for nearly 8 years, and that yellow alone is reason enough to make the switch. I'm working on a project that uses yellow acrylics and it's driving me insane.
Liked and commented. Keep the good stuff coming Marco. 👍
ok, you win. I'll patreon up.
Complimenti per i contenuti come sempre
Awesome!
Now Marco turn completely into Bob Ross for miniature painters. Mixing oil paints, wet on wet on the canvas errrr miniature. I bet he even hides his huge afro under the hat - trying to not being so obvious the „next Bob Ross“. But you are Marco!
Edit: I know youll read this stuff: Try something Bob Ross was famous for: Have a fully black primed canvas/model! then, use transparent colors on it (everywhere you like) and at the last step, add a very opaque (tutanium) Hhhhwhite :) to it, to enable the colors, set highlights and so one. I m pretty sure you are into such unsual (for miniatures) stuff!
Uuuuuuuuuu very very very interesting challenge!!!
언제까지 기다려야되냐고~~~~
You really should pick up the space marine series and do some Traitors. Maybe some Iron Warriors but with oils and NMM? I'd LOVE to see your take on that!
You're videos are awesome Iàalways feared oil paints but after seeing some of your videos I'm totally convinced by the grisaille and the oil paints. And this video will help me sooooo much for ly Infinity Yu Jing and Nomads so THANK HOU. Iàhave a question : Have you already made a video to explain inks to bebinners or maybe have this in mind? Last thing : Thank you cor this massive positive energy you put in your videos ot is really heartwarming
Payne's Grey Gang!
Never without!
I'm starting to suspect Marco has brought stocks in W&N paints :)
awesome work mate as always
As an oil painter, I had no idea that there was Payne's grey violet. I mean, it makes sense from a colour temperature perspective and all. I literally make my own paint powders, and this one escaped me. Lol
Inspiring as usual, thanks Marco!
I was hoping for you to paint Infinity with oils. It's amazing to see how they work. Doing my own Infinity models with oils soon is a big goal of mine. I've been watching oil paint videos for a while now and I hope they will cure my frustration with acrylics. The different levels of transparecy worry me, though. I'm wondering if my plan of starting with some tubes of Abteilung colours won't work out for what I hope to achieve. I don't want to have to buy dozens of different colours, like I did with acrylics.
Start with few good quality tubes (b&w + primaries) and see how the medium works for you. Abteilung oils are amazing for weathering but not incredible for proper painting
With oils you have a _tonne_ of working time (talking a few days), as they don't dry like acrylics, so you can mix colours and work with them for longer. Oils _are_ expensive compared to acrylics, but you'll use a _lot less_ oil to cover a surface - a little goes a long way due to the heavy pigmentation. It is possible to mix most colours from a palette of just five - white, brown, blue, yellow and magenta. You can do this with acrylics too, but generally all those addictive bottles of paint that we feel compelled to acquire are just combinations of a select handful of pigments that save us from having to consistently re-mix the same formula. The majority of the Citadel paint range is made from just ten base pigments, mixed in different ratios. This is why they combine easily, as you're only really adjusting the ratios of a few pigments when you blend.
I've been dipping my toes into oils for mini painting, inspired by Marco's work here, albeit with water-soluble oils (W&N Artisan range), which means no need for white spirit or other harsh/toxic chemicals. There are some caveats with this type of oil - I've found Artisan Thinner to be somewhat reactive to acrylics unlike white spirit, when washing / rubbing back - but I've been having an absolute blast using them. If the investment in, cleaning with and fumes from harsh solvents are of concern to you, water-soluble oils are an option to consider. Be aware that in any case certain pigments like titanium white, should not go down the drain as it's toxic to marine life (warnings will be marked on the tube). Also note it's not recommended to use fine natural-hair brushes with solvents, they'll be destroyed pretty quickly, synthetics work best. Natural brushes are fine with water-soluble oils as you can clean them with water and soap.
Another thing with oils, keep your brush _dry_ when you go to add and move paint around, unlike with acrylics where a little water is desirable, and wipe it off frequently as the colours you brush over will be picked back up into the brush and can go places you don't want them.
It's a lot of fun, don't be afraid and give it a go! Grab yourself some cheap test minis, and just try a whole heap of things on them. Put down zenithals, acrylic base colours, try oils directly, or thin them down into a wash, try using them to stain by rubbing them gently off after a time, so many different new techniques to learn, you'll have a blast.
Thank you guys :) I'll try and choose wisely!
Same. I'm going to try and do the Shasvasti from Defiance with oils. Going to be a fun experiment.
What do you look for in a oil blending brush? Softness? Which do you use?
What’s the best way to handle eyes with the oil painting process? I have trouble getting the black to go over the white in a clean and detailed way. Do I just need to really wait a while for the white to set?
Also I would love a video about choosing colors for models that have a lot of browns. I have trouble choosing colors when a mini has mostly leather armor and pouches, for example. It either looks garish because the colors clash or muddy and boring because they’re too similar.
Thanks for your videos! I just finished doing a unit of 20 goblins using the oils and acrylics method and it’s fantastic. I’ve never had more fun or gotten more interesting results with the ease of the blending!
Was hoping you’d say what yellows and browns you used for the gold 😭 but great video none the less
Any full body acrylics videos in your future?
I was hoping to learn more about my Scale 75 full body acrylics for miniature painting as well. I have figured out how to feather the blue-grey and white for Ultramarine symbols but still having some basic tips and tricks on how to use them would help.
I use oils as well but not as often.
Huh. Oil yellow really does cover well. Are there any downsides to just basecoating yellow with oils, even on an otherwise all-acrylic piece? Other than a slightly extended drying time, of course.
Marcos you must try Artisan Water Mixable Oil Colour of winsor and let us know what you think
This is awesome Marco! Keep up the great work! Now I have a question, is it valiable painting infinity armies with this approach? Thanks!
Hi Marco, when you airbrush, sometimes you just do quick little puffs of air. How do you do that and ensure that paint doesn't seep into the nozzle in between puffs? I was taught to press for air, pull back for paint, and then go forward again before releasing the trigger. But you seem to do the entire cycle with one press. How do you do that and avoid paint seeping in between?
Which army are you using for Infinity, all these models are gorgeous!
I have a big Aleph army and at the beginning of this year I started painting O-12!
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Awesome! I just play Warhammer but I got the action pack for nomads before they disappeared. Going to proxy a few of those models into my armies and seeing how detailed these are makes my kit bashing juices start flowing, lol.
Hi Marco!
Very insightful video! A question though when you are applying the cerulean blue as you apply it it is smooth as an acrylic and it seems you did not dilute your paint at all. If I attempt to apply oils they feel like I'm slathering butter on the surface and can't achieve a smooth layer. Either super thick and chunky or you can see the brushstroke. How do you deal with that? Any pointers?
Hi! Part of the problem is caused by the high density of oils that can be difficult to manage in our small surfaces. The good thing is that in that high density and heavy body there's a crazy amount of pigments (that in opaque paints in particular have an absurd covering power) so the main trick is to use small/microscopic quantities of paint in every application. But it's the blending brush that really defines the finish so don't stress too much about brush strokes and volumes of paint during the application because the blend is where they are fixed!
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Thank you for your quick reply! I had a minor breakthrough in the last couple of days just playing with dilution and reducing the amount utilised and spreading it on the surface and realising that you have to apply all your gradients "at the same time" and blend them. Just as you elaborated the amounts are microscopic and bleding is sooo easy..
Hey Marco! Great video as always.
I have a question about your base here, is is something you made/printed yourself, or is it available to buy?
Hi! Thanks a million! It's a 3D printed topper that I made printing only the upper part of a standard base (I wanted to use the official base with the marks for the visual arc!)
Good to know, thank you!
Amazing video! Quick question, what types of brushes are you using to blend and paint with?
They are just cheap synthetic brushes!
Marco, when you do the oil priming before you clean off the model with the makeup sponges are you thinning the oil paint down with spirits?
Hm, what is the difference between semi-opaque and semi-transparent?
It sounds like glass half-full and half-empty :D
One tend more to opacity, still maintaining a bit of transparency and the other tend to transparency but without being really transparent! The difference can seem small but it's pretty substantial when you see the paint in action!
To put it in another perspective: think about in terms of a sliding scale where 1 is transparent all light passes through. 4 is opaque, all light is reflected. 2 is semi transparent, 3 is semi opaque.
Semi transparent is nearly transparent, imagine like a glaze in acrylics. Semi opaque is more like when you need to apply two thin coats with acrylics to make it fully opaque. Similar but not the same and as Marco has said very different when you actually use them.
TLDR; What do you suggest for a starter project that doesnt require buying more than 6-ish paints, maybe using one of the abteilung sets?
Im very inspired to start trying out oil painting my miniatures but I am a bit apprehensive of taking the leap. Do you have any advice on a beginner project that would not need a large investments in getting new materials(paint).
Can I ask a silly question, again. When you used the makeup sponge and cotton tips to remove the oil paint, is there anything on the sponge/cotton, like white spirit? Or is it just a clean dry sponge ? Thanks !
I dont remember if I've asked you this, Marco, but have you had a gritty texture in your fresh from tube oils? My W&N artisan Payne's Grey has this going on like someone mixed sand into it.
To mix something like a Paynes grey violet, would you suggest adding a bit of alyzerin crimson to Paynes grey?
Hi Marco another typically brilliant paint job - do you have a link to your stainless steel brush pots you put white spirit in? Cheers
Hi, thanks a million! I found them in my local art shop; they are basic oil painting tools and you can easily find them in every physical shop
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM cheers just found on Amazon under “steel double dipper pot” £5.79 (incase anyone else trawls the post in years to come lol) ordering mine now
@@DarkAngel-vb2huNice, thanks! And that's the right price if it has also the lids
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM lids present in description and pics - I’ll let you know when they arrive 👍
@@DarkAngel-vb2hu awesome!
Great painted, bravo! Will w & n winton have the same effects or is w & n artist's a big difference?
From what I saw the blending properties are noticeably worse on college grade paints vs artist grade paints. I guess it's good enough for your "traditional" oil wash, but it should be worth it to go for the expensive paint when you go for a painting style like this.
Hey man, loving the videos, especially any to do with using oils - quick question, I can only get hold of normal white spirit, not low odour or artist grade right now - will that still be ok for painting my miniatures?
Thanks a million! I use cheap odourless white spirit from the hardware store; standard white spirit is more smelly and pungent but it's still the same chemical with the exact same properties! The artist grade is purer, more refined and a bit less oily, but again, same properties and behaviour 😉
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Thats great, Thanks for the quick response, really appreciate it man! :)
How did you apply the yellow and not have it smear or mix with the dark color under it?
Hi Marco! Would you mind sharing what brushes you used for the blending, all brushes I tried tend to leave a lot of streaks rather than a smooth blend
Hi! I use cheap soft synthetic brushes and old W&N series7 that are no more good for acrylics, but still great for oil blends. You can add a bit of linseed oils and thinner to reduce the streaks that come mostly from the high density of the paint!
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM thanks for the response! I’ll give it a try. I was using cheap synthetics and also tried old sable so perhaps my paint was too thick or i just need to practice technique. I’d love to see more videos on this kind of oil painting!
@@carnajom8831 yeah 99.9% of the time is the density of the paint and/or the thickness of the layer applied, don't worry too much about the brushes 😉 There will be a lot of oil painting soon 😉
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM looking forward to them! Got a couple of Maimeri oils on sale here locally and its been fun learning a new skill
hello, i was inspired by your use of oil paints, i desited to give them a try, but i keep on running in to a problem, i made a wash with some burnt umber by abt502, applied it and let it dry for almost a week, and it still can be relatively easily rubbed off... are oil paints just less burable than acrylics? and just need to be varnished after, or am i doing something wrong? really injoy your video by the way!
I’ve Just started to use oils, what’s stopping the yellow from merging with the oil paints underneath?
Have you waited 24 hour for the previous layer to dry?
I think I have a bad bottle of white ink because it never goes on as smooth as this, It constantly speckles but all of my coloured inks come out perfect
Sometimes this can happen with old bottles that remained on the shop's shelf for too long; try adding a bit of medium and/or a fluid varnish plus few drops of water or better airbrush thinner to balance again the liquid part and the pigments!
Thankyou sir, I'll give it a try ❤️