There is 2 speeches in 1 here. But delivered simultaneously & interchangeably. The first about love & the second is "I am the pope, respect my authority". Genius.
I especially loved the intricate combination of homily and true expression of faith (in the love and passion) and somehow between that are intertwined elements of dogma and control. He uses threats but disguises them so well you want him to punish you should you fail him. Absolutely genius writing and performance. Oscar worthy
I have never seen such a humble, gentle way of saying "This is your job (description of love with tenderness but without passion). Do your job or I'll fire you on the spot."
@@Aaron-mn2ro No, that's a teaching of self-salvation, that if you work hard enough, do this, do that, you will earn salvation (which is what the mercy is). If you could earn salvation the Cross would be unnecessary. The Apostle Paul stated it bluntly - "For it is by God's grace that you have been saved through faith. It is not the result of your own efforts, but God's gift, so that no one can boast about it." Even the repentance you have is a gift from God (see Acts 11:18 and Timothy 2:25). So basically God does it all. As Isaiah put it - "His own right arm brought salvation". In fact, Isaiah said it twice. You can't adopt a position where the Cross is unnecessary, nor even worse, can you adopt a position where the Cross is sort of necessary and sort of not necessary.
If we recall John Paul III's handful addresses in the show, including this address, we can see John Paul III had made every effort trying to convince people to see his middle way. "Love is with tenderness but without passion for passion is the eternal enemy of humility." As it turns out, passion not only drives away humility but also creates radicalism. He has been right all the time, but we the audience have been "beclouded" by our passion for Leny. "It consumes us. It is dangerous and illegal and causing pain to ourselves and to others". John Paul is not a coward. He is just a man whose wisdom has been so profound and unparalleled that mundane people can hardly understand him, thus lead to misunderstanding and misconception, and he has been deeply troubled by them at all times, resulting in him to only be able to remain in his castle. I'm glad that Pius XIII, in the end, paid John Paul III the long-overdue but ultimate respect.
John Paul III was a dangerous reactionary who turned the church so hard to the right that American cardinals could be seen supporting Trump and condemning the current Pope.
I love what you have written although can you explain some more? Like we often hear for example love your partner passionately... How is that going to affect my own character or personality? Your example of Lenny does make sense but maybe if you can explain something more on a general scale. Thanks
Passion is not adoring… Passion (Passion of Christ) is enduring the pain there is on the world that inflicts you… you think that passion os liking a person so much… no. Passion is what you have within you that protects from letting yourself go… do you think that Christ give in under the extreme and painful circumstances to the people and the Romans? Do you think that he let go? No, He didn’t even blinked with hesitation. He had passion and that prevented Him (as God) from hating Man. That is Passion, the Passion of Christ. And so should you have passion in this life to prove to God that you also are worthy of everyone’s love and affection! Have piety and forgive for they do not know what they have been doing… Viva Cristo-Rei!
1:00 “You will come to me and you will tell me all this suffering in the world. And I will say to you: they are all hysterias of love. Distortions of our ability to love. The problem, brothers, is love. The question, then, is: how are we to love? This is my way: with tenderness, without passion. Passion is the eternal enemy of humility. Christian humility, which is frugal, is just and is necessary. Love is an abstraction, like intelligence, like happiness. Every time our judgment is beclouded by the ardent passions that consume us, we give love a dangerous concreteness, a scandalous concreteness, an illegal concreteness. In short, we are causing pain. To ourselves, and to others. Replace that concrete love with tenderness.”
Which is what made Brannox a dangerous Pope. He accepted weakness as a full means to a path towards God. Our path towards God must strive for perfection, nothing weak or imperfect is in heaven.
@@koenkeepThere is no corrupt people in heaven, there are saints, people that worked theyr life towards perfection, much of them diying for it, they have nothing to do with "weaknes"
@@Eodat i dont think perfection is attainable and that's not a bad thing. I accept the nature of people as it is. But that doesn't absolve me from doing my best.
This is one of the best shows in the world, it accompanied me as father and menthor. I saw season 1 and 2 so often I can't even count. I hope there will be a season 3 - the last pope (there are rumors on that) I try to learn this speech and every quote from memory When John said Love is an abstract concept you can see Gutierrez smile 🌹🕊
How are we to love? We must love unconditionally just as Christ did. We need to love sinners and pray for them. Sadly this is extremely difficult because jerks tend to breed.
This is true. Christ was not a passionate man though he allowed friend and foe alike to afflict him with their passion. It is no mistake that the Greeks God of War and God of love were devoted to eachother. They shared irrational passion.
Wow, this pope spits some serious truths... it honestly helps me in my own life. I guess this would be the allure to remaining Catholic. I hope Jesus wins with me, be it to stay or be it to go.
It is in real life. Everything he is saying rings true to me. Surrendering to anything even love (Our false understanding of it, not the real kind) is dangerous. So we must maintain a bit of control over it so that we don’t lose ourselves.
I love, love how this was acted and the lines written are superb. Especially the veiled threat, if you do not do it my way I will replace you. So we move on from Pius XIII to a new sort of do what I say, no matter how gently crafted :D
As a traditional Catholic alot of this show was deliberately subversive, but moments like this redeem it. I'd really like to know who wrote this speech, bc in my estimation, they distilled the essence of Catholicism. Edit: Was it Sorrentino himself?
@@GQFJB Theres also the whole thing with scanty dressed nuns dancing and the show making it seem like every single clergyman is corrupt, sexually sinful or degenerate
all popes are philosophically minded, a priest must study philosophy to become a priest, it is not fiction, just because you are less knowledgable does not make you right
Well said, Love O is chaos and the root of evil, although necessary for evolution and the creation of things. Wisdom and discipline from Dead X is what allows us to bring order out of love so we may reach heaven. 4
Well it sounds soothing and deep. But I'd argue that Brannox in this scene is doing exactly what Voiello wants him to do with his 'middle way': puffing out dazzling word clouds like the caterpillar in Alice in Wonderland, which, when you get right down to it, don't mean much. The 'middle way' is the blank check for the men behind the throne to carry on what they were doing anyway. His asking his cardinals for enacting love in his way, as tenderness without passion, sounded, to me, a lot like endorsing the clerical celibacy of his church. And then, 'love without passion' is just old wine in new bottles. Perhaps now with an Anglican flavor. Brannox dulls himself with his golden box. Walking his 'middle way', at least for him, seems to require crutches.
@@majesoficial5711 Yeah, well, no. Doesn't work. I thought he was trying to sound like a well-educated continental European. At least he doesn't sound American!
with that level of script writing should I explain more or you already knew it?....don't underestimate him...while teach you something truth, cause sometimes it takes time to see... this is my way...and that is his ways
There is 2 speeches in 1 here. But delivered simultaneously & interchangeably. The first about love & the second is "I am the pope, respect my authority". Genius.
I especially loved the intricate combination of homily and true expression of faith (in the love and passion) and somehow between that are intertwined elements of dogma and control. He uses threats but disguises them so well you want him to punish you should you fail him. Absolutely genius writing and performance. Oscar worthy
God bless you and everyone you know Jesus forgives just repent and have faith in him and you shall be forgiven Amen Alleluia✝️🙏🙌
I have never seen such a humble, gentle way of saying "This is your job (description of love with tenderness but without passion). Do your job or I'll fire you on the spot."
God bless you and everyone you know Jesus forgives just repent and have faith in him and you shall be forgiven Amen Alleluia✝️🙏🙌
God bless you and everyone you know Jesus forgives just repent and have faith in him and you shall be forgiven Amen Alleluia✝️🙏🙌
For you, I am a Bishop; with you, I am a Christian.
Don’t get it twisted - this quote comes from the great Saint Augustine.
It must be so strange to elect one of your work colleagues and then have him immediately start lecturing you from a point of absolute authority.
they are bishops and cardinals, they already have a distinct authority... even priests lecture with authority when they give homily every mass.
They lecture their congregations. They are being lectured TO here.
He is elected by them because they think he is worthy to lecture to them.
You should see how the call center I worked in is managed :D
True
Sorrentino isn't only a great director, he is also a wonderful writer! 👏👏👏
Remo valitutto...... Absolutely. Hes really good. I love this show.
True! And as an Italian I enjoy Malkovich also how it sound in english
Only Malkovich can so eloquently make this speech gold for years to come. 👏🏽
His Holiness, Pope John the Malkovich
*His Lonliness, Pope John the Malkovich
To achieve being like Christ,
We must first achieve in Being John Malkovich
*Cyrus the Virus
I have to say HBO has better content than Netflix. Please keep it that way!
Always has been hbo max incoming
Netflix is getting better tho
What's the point in being better when it's not available world wide?!
You are right.
@@curiouspeople6441 Netflix is getting worse or do I need to remind you of cuties and now the he-man show?
This show is something else man, I honestly hope for a season 3, it’s a freakin masterpiece
A better sermon than many in real life.
It'd be good to employ Serrentino to write a book of homilies. Although he's wrong about having to earn God's love, it's unconditional
@@tr9809 dont have to earn love, but you do have to earn mercy
That's a terrible and incredibly un-christian teaching.
@@xtremebanana1998 What is?
@@Aaron-mn2ro No, that's a teaching of self-salvation, that if you work hard enough, do this, do that, you will earn salvation (which is what the mercy is). If you could earn salvation the Cross would be unnecessary. The Apostle Paul stated it bluntly - "For it is by God's grace that you have been saved through faith. It is not the result of your own efforts, but God's gift, so that no one can boast about it."
Even the repentance you have is a gift from God (see Acts 11:18 and Timothy 2:25). So basically God does it all. As Isaiah put it - "His own right arm brought salvation". In fact, Isaiah said it twice.
You can't adopt a position where the Cross is unnecessary, nor even worse, can you adopt a position where the Cross is sort of necessary and sort of not necessary.
I have listened to this over and over and man it has some wisdom. And no one delivers this better than Malkovitch.
love this man as an actor
Beautiful message in truth. Love him as Pope. Love John Malkovich as an actor and he is playing this part well! Love with tenderness!
Paolo Sorrentino and co.
who is better suited to play a pope than a catholic croat? XD
If we recall John Paul III's handful addresses in the show, including this address, we can see John Paul III had made every effort trying to convince people to see his middle way. "Love is with tenderness but without passion for passion is the eternal enemy of humility." As it turns out, passion not only drives away humility but also creates radicalism. He has been right all the time, but we the audience have been "beclouded" by our passion for Leny. "It consumes us. It is dangerous and illegal and causing pain to ourselves and to others". John Paul is not a coward. He is just a man whose wisdom has been so profound and unparalleled that mundane people can hardly understand him, thus lead to misunderstanding and misconception, and he has been deeply troubled by them at all times, resulting in him to only be able to remain in his castle. I'm glad that Pius XIII, in the end, paid John Paul III the long-overdue but ultimate respect.
John Paul III was a dangerous reactionary who turned the church so hard to the right that American cardinals could be seen supporting Trump and condemning the current Pope.
I love what you have written although can you explain some more? Like we often hear for example love your partner passionately... How is that going to affect my own character or personality? Your example of Lenny does make sense but maybe if you can explain something more on a general scale. Thanks
@@iandsouza2493 surely because passion clouds judgment. And clouded judgment leads to ill forged conclusions.
Pius XIII is an anti-pope
Passion is not adoring… Passion (Passion of Christ) is enduring the pain there is on the world that inflicts you… you think that passion os liking a person so much… no. Passion is what you have within you that protects from letting yourself go… do you think that Christ give in under the extreme and painful circumstances to the people and the Romans? Do you think that he let go? No, He didn’t even blinked with hesitation. He had passion and that prevented Him (as God) from hating Man. That is Passion, the Passion of Christ. And so should you have passion in this life to prove to God that you also are worthy of everyone’s love and affection! Have piety and forgive for they do not know what they have been doing… Viva Cristo-Rei!
How he speaks, it's a massage for my ears and brain. I love it
I cried at this speech - so relevant and accurate
So real... I feel what you mean. So human speech. Great
A masterful piece of writing, and a powerful and very impressive portrayal. How can he recite this, amazing.
This is such an AMAZING speech. I ADORE THIS TV SERIES
Spoilers
Everyone thought the new pope would be a vain man obsessed with media and popularity, but he turned out to be such a lovely sweetie.
Two of the most distinguished actors of our time John Malkovich and Jude Law
Hands down, best Dramatic Series on HBO
Malkovich is a giant in the world of acting. HIs true Genius is exposed by some characters - this is i reckon - one of them. Well Done Sir! Well Done!
Stunning scene
This is even better on second viewing.
I watch the first session at 4 x. The best show ever.
1:00
“You will come to me and you will tell me all this suffering in the world. And I will say to you: they are all hysterias of love. Distortions of our ability to love. The problem, brothers, is love. The question, then, is: how are we to love? This is my way: with tenderness, without passion. Passion is the eternal enemy of humility. Christian humility, which is frugal, is just and is necessary. Love is an abstraction, like intelligence, like happiness. Every time our judgment is beclouded by the ardent passions that consume us, we give love a dangerous concreteness, a scandalous concreteness, an illegal concreteness. In short, we are causing pain. To ourselves, and to others. Replace that concrete love with tenderness.”
Humility is important and comes with respecting each other, with respect comes tenderness. It's easy to understand.
Ok maybe I should start watching this show now
Wow is a good but dangerous speech. Tenderness, equilibrium and wisdom the lost abilities and confused many times with weakness.
Which is what made Brannox a dangerous Pope. He accepted weakness as a full means to a path towards God. Our path towards God must strive for perfection, nothing weak or imperfect is in heaven.
@@GQFJB Then there are no people in heaven either. Great.
@@koenkeepThere is no corrupt people in heaven, there are saints, people that worked theyr life towards perfection, much of them diying for it, they have nothing to do with "weaknes"
@@Eodat i dont think perfection is attainable and that's not a bad thing. I accept the nature of people as it is. But that doesn't absolve me from doing my best.
@@koenkeep Christian perfection it's not your conception of perfection.
3:18 "Okay so now that I've preached to you about impassionate love, I will demand I will become a smothering Father to you."
i like how he's referencing gutierrez's answer to when he was asking the cardinal's to define love earlier
This is one of the best shows in the world, it accompanied me as father and menthor. I saw season 1 and 2 so often I can't even count. I hope there will be a season 3 - the last pope (there are rumors on that)
I try to learn this speech and every quote from memory
When John said Love is an abstract concept you can see Gutierrez smile 🌹🕊
Love is not only the reason for life, but it is the key to life
This is honestly the best acting I’ve ever seen from Malkovich.
One of the most beautiful quote on How are we to love ❤❤
One of best actors ever... Had to be hard to decide to take this role but I’m glad that he did-he killed it.
Stunning speech delivered by a remarkable actor.
Malkovich is perfectly cast for this role; he is masterful.
What an astonishing piece....
The writing is magnificent.
Amazing writing, and superbly portrayed.
Phenomenal.
tenderness without passion. WOW
Jesus said to "Love thy neighbour as thyself". Love is the answer💖🙏
And this fictional pope advocates a wishy washy love
How are we to love? We must love unconditionally just as Christ did. We need to love sinners and pray for them.
Sadly this is extremely difficult because jerks tend to breed.
I just watch this scene high, it´s amazing!
Ima theologian and I gotta say this is some solid theology I love it
This is true. Christ was not a passionate man though he allowed friend and foe alike to afflict him with their passion.
It is no mistake that the Greeks God of War and God of love were devoted to eachother. They shared irrational passion.
Charity is to admonish sinners.
Wow, this pope spits some serious truths... it honestly helps me in my own life. I guess this would be the allure to remaining Catholic. I hope Jesus wins with me, be it to stay or be it to go.
Such an amazing and wonderful series.
Wow! Great writing and acting!
Wow if that was only in real life
It is in real life. Everything he is saying rings true to me. Surrendering to anything even love (Our false understanding of it, not the real kind) is dangerous. So we must maintain a bit of control over it so that we don’t lose ourselves.
Oh God l love John Brannox character
I love, love how this was acted and the lines written are superb. Especially the veiled threat, if you do not do it my way I will replace you. So we move on from Pius XIII to a new sort of do what I say, no matter how gently crafted :D
As a traditional Catholic alot of this show was deliberately subversive, but moments like this redeem it. I'd really like to know who wrote this speech, bc in my estimation, they distilled the essence of Catholicism.
Edit: Was it Sorrentino himself?
Never saw the show. How is it subversive?
What did you think of the ending of the show painting Fanaticism as dangerous? I’m a trad cat too and I saw that agenda.
@@GQFJB Theres also the whole thing with scanty dressed nuns dancing and the show making it seem like every single clergyman is corrupt, sexually sinful or degenerate
@@crimsonthumos3905 well in today’s world that’s sadly pretty accurate.
Season 2 was not that good. Season one was far better
That was a lovely speech.
While Lenny sleeps
What a powerful speech 👏
Finally a decent and philosophically-minded Pope - albeit, in fiction.
You know Benedictus XVI?
all popes are philosophically minded, a priest must study philosophy to become a priest, it is not fiction, just because you are less knowledgable does not make you right
God bless you and everyone you know Jesus forgives just repent and have faith in him and you shall be forgiven Amen Alleluia✝️🙏🙌
incredibly well written speech
Wooo this is mad fire
does anyone know who wrote this speech, he deserves the Nobel prize
Sorentino
* they
@Sanctus Paulus 1962 How does enrico know whether the speechwriters a man or not.
From looking down a comment it looks like Sorrentino (a man) wrote it.
For a minute I thought he was rapping
Great performance! And, I have to say, if you are a "Rounders" fan, you gotta catch a little "Teddy KGB" in his accent.
Pay that mayn his muney
0:09
He beat me fair and square Jesus. Pay that man hees mahney.
We got a hanger boss
The young pope needs to wake up; jude law was a great actor
Incredible.
he is a Pope I would be proud to follow
Well said, Love O is chaos and the root of evil, although necessary for evolution and the creation of things. Wisdom and discipline from Dead X is what allows us to bring order out of love so we may reach heaven. 4
therefore, we need hatred to eradicate love.
replace concrete love with tenderness....
I would love to know the background music.
It is 5.2 Allemande by Peter Gregson
Good Question
@@phil6354 Thank you
Love U john 😩❤️
Is it possible to love without passion?
Passion is love in movies and books. Attention is love in real life.
That sonder ambien music. Does anybody know?
I love this show. Very good show.
I haven't seen this show, but I can't tell from this clip whether this is expresses admiration for or criticism of Catholic doctrine. Maybe both.
Yeah I think both or neither; the character has an interpretation of Catholic doctrine that is admirable, at least.
This although fiction is a beautiful monologue.
3:17 "I can be a father to you."
Yeah, Father Christmas.
Szent Miklós
John Malkovich! Benton Illinois native.
Hey, a commercial for Pope Francis.
I cant find this in HBO GO where can i watch this
B E A U T I F U L
Malkovich Malkovich Malkovich Malkovich
What is the melody in 1.59?
AMAZING SERIAL
Well it sounds soothing and deep. But I'd argue that Brannox in this scene is doing exactly what Voiello wants him to do with his 'middle way': puffing out dazzling word clouds like the caterpillar in Alice in Wonderland, which, when you get right down to it, don't mean much. The 'middle way' is the blank check for the men behind the throne to carry on what they were doing anyway. His asking his cardinals for enacting love in his way, as tenderness without passion, sounded, to me, a lot like endorsing the clerical celibacy of his church. And then, 'love without passion' is just old wine in new bottles. Perhaps now with an Anglican flavor. Brannox dulls himself with his golden box. Walking his 'middle way', at least for him, seems to require crutches.
Okay i got the recipe for steak now how do i do the sauce
Lol
I love the little detail of poor taste in John Paul III, a *very* English man, wearing trinity knots on his stole.
What is the beautidul backround music?
Voilello’s face
Nostalgia..
" ' BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF ALL HARLOTS ( THE CATHOLIC CHURCH) AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.' "
REVELATION 17
What's up with the accent of John Paul III? I know he's supposed to be British, but his accent sounds like a mix of things.
He's supposed to be a posh London aristocrat priest with a knighthood
@@majesoficial5711 Yeah, well, no. Doesn't work. I thought he was trying to sound like a well-educated continental European. At least he doesn't sound American!
@@joelthomastr works for me. classic westminster accent, he nailed it.
He sounds German. A little bit like Werner Herzog
He definitely doesn't sound British to me he sounds like English spoken as a second language albeit fluently.
Music?
Does anyone know if it's based on real statements on the dangers of passion?
People do not know what real love is. It is compassion for all living beings. The Budda.
I have a question: where can I see the full series? Do I need to have HBO? Is it something like Netflix?
HBO
HBO is a platform like Netflix. You pay monthly for a service of streaming series and movies.
@@luismartin9640 thanks didn't know that!
In Italy it's broadcast by sky
@@luismartin9640 😄😄
Amen 🙏🙏🙏
Wonderfully delivered speech and a beautiful scene. Unfortunately an utterly incoherent message if you stop and listen to it
with that level of script writing should I explain more or you already knew it?....don't underestimate him...while teach you something truth, cause sometimes it takes time to see... this is my way...and that is his ways
I don’t understand what he means
Beautiful