When the bomb goes off, Diane, Beth, the Garage, & the car all blowup together. Their DNA is literally in the garage ( Diane) & the car (Beth) which becomes his ship. The AI in each is a fusion of the people he loved. He spends his time either tinkering in the garage, (being with Diane) or going on adventures with his kid (Beth & his ship).
BP is not mad at Rick for telling him about his daughter in order to save himself. He is mad because he knows that if it wasn't for the fact that Rick wanted to live, and the only way to do that being revealing to BP he has a kid, then Rick was very likely NEVER going to tell BP. If BP had agreed to leave, then Rick wouldn't ever have brought up BP's daughter so that he can selfishly keep his friend and not have to deal with BP ignoring Rick in favor of his kid.
The interesting thing is that all the various Rick versions seem to have dead Dianes. Makes me wonder if in order for a Rick to become a true Rick in the various timelines, his Diane has to die. Could be the reason why the Ricks in the Citadel of Ricks enjoy that snack flavored with the memories of that one Rick who gave up his mad scientist life in order to be with his family. Perhaps they all wish they would or could have done that, but never did. Even worse, what if the Citadel of Ricks purposefully kills Dianes in order to create more Ricks?
What I don’t understand is this: If there are universes in which Beth is still alive, wouldn’t there also be those in which Diane is still alive? And why wouldn’t Rick find a reality with both Beth and Diane and take the place of their Rick like he and Morty did after they Cronenberged their reality?
Think Rick erased his memory of the moment his wife and daughter died but most of his life was centered around that moment so he was able to piece together the memory which allowed him to manipulate his backstory in the season 3 premiere
It seems that our Rick went on revenge trip against Ricks that don’t have Beths and Mortys, and won! Which is why most of the Citadel Ricks have families and replace them when they lose them, they are afraid of any Ricks without a family!
Or they camouflage themselves with Morty's and families and our Rick is camouflaging himself with a family so that he can go after the rest of them now the camouflage thing makes sense
Comment above said each version has a dead wife an daughter. Think our Rick killed each other ricks family cuz they killed his family. An that just killed him inside
Part of caring about people is respecting what they care about. I don't think Rick gets that. I think this whole episode was basically about that. The end of the Blood Ridge battle was definitely about that.
This was the best Rick and Morty episode for this season. The previous episodes was kinda MEH. I loved seeing this side of Rick and "idealistic" memory Rick was AWESOME!
Also, young Rick said "abandoned Beth" which could mean that the timelines where Ricks left to join the citadel were replaced by Ricks whose family died
You could even say that the ricks who leave eventually go and kill another ricks family so that the family they left will have a rick who comes back to them
I like how Bird Person deduced that Rick only mentioned his daughter when he needed an escape plan...as smart as Rick is, I think Bird Person is just as intelligent...maybe not in the scientific sense, but his analytical intelligence & emotional intelligence, is really high, if not surpassing even Rick...considering he ironically barely shows much emotions
Yah,people said he was angry for only telling him to save his ass,but he was angry cuz if Birdperson came with him,he wouldn’t have told him he had a daughter And I think BP is smart
@@KingClovis probably,I think it’s just that Rick is god like smart,and the other people around him are also pretty smart but not that good compared to him
When young Rick says that Rick was one of the weird ones that moved in with an abandoned Beth, Rick said that it was more complex than that. And our Rick is the Rickest Rick. That made me think that he can't just be another of those Ricks. He has had a box of time travel stuff since episode one and never used it. I think he went back in time and was able to save Beth, but maybe not Diane. That's why he never uses it anymore. He went back in time and saved Beth, but couldn't save his wife.
I think the Beth died was a red herring to throw off people looking for leverage against Rick and as a way to keep Beth safe. It was a Bird Person memory of Rick who said it. A 35 year old Rick may not have trusted BP at that point in his life to say Beth was alive.
Agreed. They put too much emphasis on the fact that memory people only are able to express what BP knows or believes, like Tammy truly loving BP or Rick being a nice idealist before the Battle.
This is all in Birdperson's memories, so we can assume that this really happened and wasn't just made up by Rick (of course he could have lied to Birdperson about it, but I think his actions as young Rock in attacking the Council of Ricks made it pretty clear that it was his real backstory.
@@malachigonstire6083 so ask for Diane from an alternate reality, and end up getting what? A shapeshifter pretending to be Diane in an attempt to get Space Beth?
Memory Rick said “our dead daughter”…he did NOT discuss the fate of Rick’s wife. Also if Rick lied to BirdPerson, then this reveal is false (hope it’s not) FYI Diane is still likely dead given Nimbus’ comment.
I do not think Rick is Morty. I really don’t see that happening. I think the yellow shirt is a very intentional choice though. I think it represents the bright, sunny and optimistic disposition that Morty has and now this episode confirms that Rick used to have.
Just looking at the frame where Rick is sat on the bed and a picture of Mortys room and they both have the elephant lap.. Could it mean something? 🤷♂️
I think this is why the soldiers from the citadel exchange that look when morty claims to be from c-137 in the season 3 opener. They know that dimension never had a morty, they know why, and they know this is the morty that Rick c-137 must currently be using
C-137 had a Morty. That Morty died in the Cronenberg episode. Rick C-137 is just what other Ricks call him. When he put down his "Dimension of Origin" in another episode he writes N/A. The dimension they're currently in is C-137, but they're not from there. They assumed the identities of the Rick and Morty that died
@@interesting795 yeah, just checked. But C-137 is just Morty's original universe. In Rick's original universe, Morty was never born because Diane and Beth were killed. Rick doesn't remember which dimension he was from.
Why aren't we discussing how Rick's childhood bedroom was a lot more modernized than a bedroom of his should have been given his age. If it's a perception of his memory fine, but if it's supposed to reflect actual memory then when is Rick from that he would have a race car bed as a child, video game/computer setup, etc.
@@tripulet youngest he could reasonably be is 50. I assume he’s older than that. It could be reasoned that since memories can be subjective that’s why, but felt “off” for somebody like Rick.
And it seems that lots of places put him at 70. That would mean he was born around 1950. He would have been probably 10-12 in the memory so 1960-62 approximately.
This episode might be showing the reality that this whole time Rick has been trying to free and enlighten Morty to be more like him to save him from heart break that Rick went through.
If you're suggesting that Rick just lied to BP that his daughter (and wife probably) died, I'm gonna disagree with you lol. That's not something you lie about to someone you like as much as Rick liked BP
@@Kelarys but Rick was going to lie about BP's daughter existence just to have his friend for himself, I don't think that Rick lying about his family is implausible
What if the term "Finite Curve" means Ricks who's Beth died ? It's conformed in this episode and since there's infinite Ricks, I think that term's meaning is significant and hopefully will come back in a future episode to explain what is meant by it. There seems to be so many versions of him with his family, even some where Beth remarried in Mortynight Run in Season 2. I bet the number of Ricks who lost Beth is much smaller hence the "Finite Curve" Maybe just maybe Morty losing his mom and daughter, hates or blames Rick enough to turn into "Evil Morty." We do get the term "Finite Curve" in the same episode where "Evil Morty" is introduced!!
Yeah, and since he's a memory from BP it might just be that's what OG Rick told BP before. But it also doesn't explain why OG Rick would kind of agree to that assumption in their conversation, other than the fact that maybe he's lying there as well
Its crazy to think that For Bird person the interaction with Rick is almost transactional. Even in the Season 1 episode where Rick had a party, he used a Beacon to call Bird person over, as if there was an emergency, further perpetuating the idea that for BP, he was fulfilling the debt. The details and connections the writers include is amazing.
RICK IS KANG! To be more specific he’s Iron Lad. He was approached by an older version of himself so that the future version could create a younger version with the knowledge of the older version. The younger version refused the older versions offer and spent his life fighting against the council that is full of versions of himself.
Has anyone noticed that this season is exploring ricks relationship with other men? Whether that be platonic, romantic, or rivals. But most come off sexual. Mr. Nimbus has such a sex vibe towards everyone, especially rick. All of the competition between rick and the president. And now birdperson. The way that scene played out looked like rick coming out and birdperson rejecting his advances. I dont think saying no to travel would lead rick and birdperson to both see this memory as traumatic. It was a heavy scene with alot of implications. And they stayed friends after this. All 3 ricks were hurt by bp in that moment. And young rick says bp was an ass but bp was nice about it, he turned him down gently, and rick was soooo hurt. If rick was coming onto bp it makes sense that he would react like this to the rejection, bc it hits a bit harder than just being alone nothing matters, thats how they met. Bp says to use the beacon to contact him, and in s1e11 the first thing bp says is the beacon was activated. Does that mean bp and rick haven't seen each other since bloodridge?
BP would have had to know Rick lost his family and some choose the citadel and some choose Beth because he's talking to the memory version BP has of Rick.. and it is clearer now why there's so many Ricks in the Citadel
I need an episode named “rickplicitly mort” where we see morty go off on a solo adventure maybe to save rick and we watch morty turn into a inter dimensional god like Rick
the point birdperson was making at the end was that rick would NEVER have told bird person had their not been some self serving reason, he would have ultimately withheld that information forever if he had to until he had the opportunity to use it as a tool to get what he wanted.
I think that Rick sees a lot of his younger self in Morty and thats why Rick takes so much of a liking to him. RIck knows that he used to be like Morty when he was younger so he sees the potential for Morty to grow up and be smart and maybe even better than Rick
I think Morty is how Rick described Beth: He's Rick's grandson. He has his DNA and slight traits. He clearly shows his Sanchez side more than his Smith side. He probably just grows up to be like his grandpa in the same way Kylo Ren did.
I think Rick manufactured Morty, thats why every Rick gets one even though apparently he’s just a “hypothetical” grandson. He made Morty alot like his old self but he’s trying to make him a better ‘Rick’ so that he doesn’t lose his family like Rick did.
If anyone has read Chuck Palahniuk's Rant, Morty growing up and being under the watchful eye is a similar story plot. Rick making sure Morty grows up to be smarter and better than Rick is.
I have not read rant but I love invisible monsters and survivor, chuck has such a good sense of how to simply tie everything together, while making it destroy your previous notions of everything you just read
If Rick can switch verses 2-3 times (Cronenberg/Squirells? Forgeting one I think) Why didn't he go to a Verse with Diane, he's claimed he can replace everyone. Or why not clone Diane like he did Beth?
I’d have to look back at older seasons but this season definitely feels like it took a step above last season at least. I mean every season is hilarious to me but this season feels like it’s dropping a lot of clues to theories the fans had.
Thank you Thank you!!! For explaining the whole Diane and Beth’s death. Cause when it aired I turned to my husband and was omg omg did you just hear what he said!? And my husband was like yea... so... lol
WAIT. Since Rick & Morty abandoned Universe C-137 after Earth was Cronenberged (season 1, episode 6), the Bird Person they interact with (who first appears in season 1, episode 11) is NOT Rick’s original BP. What’s going on with Bird Person C-137?
Feel like there was a turning point in ricks life where he had the choice to either stay with his family or actually abandoned them for some reason which lead there to be a lot of “abandon beths” by the rick who time traveled to the Rick who didn’t abandon his family. After that point it just becomes a loop of everything else lol. I absolutely just love this season.
Why would mr Nimbus remember Morty with the name Kyle? And with him seeing Morty and saying he liked the OTHER one better means that Kyle looked different right? theres no way that Mr Nimbus can just tell the difference between 2 different Mortys
I've noticed one detail after this episode confirmed Rick C137 jumped to a world where Beth is alive that means the Morty we follow is not C137 because no Morty exists in that reality? Confirmed is S3E1 when Morty tells the Rick's from the council that he's C137 and they look st him confused.
Morty is from C137, Rick is the one who isn't. C137 became cronenberg world. then they leave squirrel world and came here. Rick is on world 4 at least and Morty on 3. I figure the looks when he says C137, is because he doesn't look like a cronenberg like the Morty living in his world.
My money is on the season finale having Morty reveal to Beth and Jerry that their Morty and Rick are dead. Then towards the end, either Rick explains to Beth what happened to his wife and daughter or there's a flashback of what happened and Rick never reveals it.
I'm starting to get the feeling that it will turn out that the one who sent the bomb to kill Diane, and potentially (Original)Beth could be evil Morti. After all, no one hates the Ricks more, other than the Ricks themselves. Also, the creation of Mortis may rely historically upon that event, especially if the current Beth, is potentially a clone that Rick made to cope, and try to resurrect his daughter, but ended up abandoning in his grief. Thus Morti being born would be reliant upon the event of the original Beth dying and Rick running off on his revenge quest and eventually forming the council or Ricks and all that. Not to mention, there is the potentially that Morti is not really Beth and Jerry's child at all. Mortis might straight up be artificial creations by Ricks for their value as stealth devices and underling purposes, and the idea of them being grandchildren born to Beth might just be artificial memory implants.
I feel like a big part of this episode was missed. In the end, it isn't shown that Young Rick leaves ricks mind. Because of this I wonder if the "change" people have seen in Rick this season is really him gaining traits from his younger self in his mind. Considering this episode took place before the others?
One thing people are not seeming to see is that the Memory Rick is Bird-Persons memory of Rick and I'm unsure if anything he says can be trusted when it could be just his interpretation of what Rick told Bird-person about himself. Rick could have said something like that to Bird-person in the past. that "there are Ricks who live with beths that were abandoned." and that his "real daughter is dead" it doesnt necessarily mean that its cannon. Although it does seem that the blue pants rick is younger than the Blood ridge Memory Rick. Memory Rick lost his daughter you can see it in his eyes. So the time line in my opinion is Blue pants rick loist his daughter and became blood ridge rick which later became our Rick.
I think that we can't actually guarantee that what the memory Rick is saying is true to our Rick. He after all isn't a memory of our Rick he is a memory of the Rick our Rick replaced after all. I would say some facts will obviously overlap like the battle and how b.p. reacted thou.
I believe that's a fairly large leap to assume that just because our Rick's Beth is confirmed to have died that Rick's fabricated memory of Beth and Diane's death actually happened. Consider that Mr.Nimbus acknowledges the passing of Diane in our current dimension, which actually still has a Beth. So at the very least, the Diane of our current dimension died independent of Beth. What I find most interesting about all of this is that even though Rick has chosen to hop dimensions to be with other versions of his family, Diane never seems to be a part of any of these families. It's like he couldn't find a universe where Diane was not deceased (seems unlikely to me), OR he chooses dimensions that do not have a Diane. I'm not really sure what this all means, but it's interesting that Rick actively chooses to be with some version of Beth, but not Diane.
actually, it's not sure that his wife and even his original beth are dead, because Rick ist C-137 and he changed the universe several times. Even with morty. So Bird-person is not his original best friend at all.
The conflict between Rick and Bird Person is an exercise in Absurdism, truly!! Like, it's TRUE, NOTHING MATTERS, insofar as there is no inherent meaning or purpose in the universe BUT, because nothing matters, we have the opportunity to MAKE THINGS MATTER. Rick is a Flailing Absurdist, in my opinion (like so many of us are, really, lol) and I see him as a probably-too-often-relatable character to anyone who has ever struggled with reconciling Nihilism with Action. I like him; he tries. I think that's worth recognizing. AM I JUST PROJECTING, THOUGH?????? Lol
Is this canon though?? Remember this was Bird person memories NOT Rick's. So could have Rick just lied to him about what happen to Dianna and Beth?🤷🏽♀️ Remember the whole time Bird person didnt know the reason it cared about the great war he just fought with Rick just because and he didnt know what Best and Dianna look like til later years. Just a thought!
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When the bomb goes off, Diane, Beth, the Garage, & the car all blowup together. Their DNA is literally in the garage ( Diane) & the car (Beth) which becomes his ship. The AI in each is a fusion of the people he loved. He spends his time either tinkering in the garage, (being with Diane) or going on adventures with his kid (Beth & his ship).
If this statement is true this makes Rick and even larger tragic hero
And Rick had a assistant named Kyle cause Diane and Beth are dead so Morty and summer never happened..
This
@@TunTheOfficial Oh yeah Kyle... now it makes sense. Mr Nimbus really was his best friend.
Thats tragic but if you see it as a whole, with many rick and morty universes, anything could be canon and not that sad.
I think Rick purposely programed his garage AI to annoy him to remind him of his family when he's alone
Agreed
@@bigshirley3141 and his car
@@Dodoostains also in agreement
i think he purposely made a ai for his garage since the pickle rick incident so it may never happen again.
BP is not mad at Rick for telling him about his daughter in order to save himself. He is mad because he knows that if it wasn't for the fact that Rick wanted to live, and the only way to do that being revealing to BP he has a kid, then Rick was very likely NEVER going to tell BP. If BP had agreed to leave, then Rick wouldn't ever have brought up BP's daughter so that he can selfishly keep his friend and not have to deal with BP ignoring Rick in favor of his kid.
Exactly
Did someone say BP?
@@sacredtreasure212 yeah its PP
The interesting thing is that all the various Rick versions seem to have dead Dianes. Makes me wonder if in order for a Rick to become a true Rick in the various timelines, his Diane has to die. Could be the reason why the Ricks in the Citadel of Ricks enjoy that snack flavored with the memories of that one Rick who gave up his mad scientist life in order to be with his family. Perhaps they all wish they would or could have done that, but never did. Even worse, what if the Citadel of Ricks purposefully kills Dianes in order to create more Ricks?
My Mind fukin blown
simple rick
Come home to the taste of shattering the grand illusion! Come home to simple Rick’s!
What I don’t understand is this: If there are universes in which Beth is still alive, wouldn’t there also be those in which Diane is still alive? And why wouldn’t Rick find a reality with both Beth and Diane and take the place of their Rick like he and Morty did after they Cronenberged their reality?
@@jakesmith412 maybe the citadel was created to insure all Dianes get killed or die for some reason
Think Rick erased his memory of the moment his wife and daughter died but most of his life was centered around that moment so he was able to piece together the memory which allowed him to manipulate his backstory in the season 3 premiere
That actually makes sense ngl
Could be one of his memories in the room during "Morty's Mind Blowers"
It seems that our Rick went on revenge trip against Ricks that don’t have Beths and Mortys, and won! Which is why most of the Citadel Ricks have families and replace them when they lose them, they are afraid of any Ricks without a family!
Having a family keeps him semi-grounded. Without a family the safety is off the gun
Or they camouflage themselves with Morty's and families and our Rick is camouflaging himself with a family so that he can go after the rest of them now the camouflage thing makes sense
Comment above said each version has a dead wife an daughter. Think our Rick killed each other ricks family cuz they killed his family. An that just killed him inside
It was self serving-ish, ultimately Rick diligently tried to save Bird Person's life for three seasons. He's a jerk - but Rick does care about people.
Part of caring about people is respecting what they care about. I don't think Rick gets that. I think this whole episode was basically about that. The end of the Blood Ridge battle was definitely about that.
This was the best Rick and Morty episode for this season. The previous episodes was kinda MEH. I loved seeing this side of Rick and "idealistic" memory Rick was AWESOME!
Fingers crossed 🤞 for the next 1 hour 2 part episode
Then you have not seen the planateena episode
So far this season has been great. My favorite one was the turkey one, but this one was definitely number two for me
Also, young Rick said "abandoned Beth" which could mean that the timelines where Ricks left to join the citadel were replaced by Ricks whose family died
You could even say that the ricks who leave eventually go and kill another ricks family so that the family they left will have a rick who comes back to them
I like how Bird Person deduced that Rick only mentioned his daughter when he needed an escape plan...as smart as Rick is, I think Bird Person is just as intelligent...maybe not in the scientific sense, but his analytical intelligence & emotional intelligence, is really high, if not surpassing even Rick...considering he ironically barely shows much emotions
Yah,people said he was angry for only telling him to save his ass,but he was angry cuz if Birdperson came with him,he wouldn’t have told him he had a daughter
And I think BP is smart
Well said.
I would say Bird Person has emotional intelligence that dwarfs Rick's. But most people do, even Morty. Maybe it's emotional maturity?
@@KingClovis probably,I think it’s just that Rick is god like smart,and the other people around him are also pretty smart but not that good compared to him
It’s not even about BP being smart he’s Rick’s best friend
When young Rick says that Rick was one of the weird ones that moved in with an abandoned Beth, Rick said that it was more complex than that. And our Rick is the Rickest Rick. That made me think that he can't just be another of those Ricks. He has had a box of time travel stuff since episode one and never used it. I think he went back in time and was able to save Beth, but maybe not Diane. That's why he never uses it anymore. He went back in time and saved Beth, but couldn't save his wife.
Definitely used time travel last season
@@cartoonhistory353 are you talking about the vat of acid episode? id rewatch because he straight up says it’s not time travel
@@jordanspitzer4053 The snakes
Remember that the beth that he has right now isn’t his “real” beth, is the beth of a rick and morty that died in the first season
@@vladertx43 if that Rick and Morty are for sure the c137 Rick and Morty. We don't know that for sure.
“You live with a version of our dead daughter” um excuse me WHAT?!
this is why I came to the video, did they even discuss it?
We ALL hit rewind on that I'm betting. I know I did
Also the line the took me to this video
This line explains Rick completely
Diane and Beth were both killed by the other Ricks with the bomb (from the S3E1 memory)
I think the Beth died was a red herring to throw off people looking for leverage against Rick and as a way to keep Beth safe. It was a Bird Person memory of Rick who said it. A 35 year old Rick may not have trusted BP at that point in his life to say Beth was alive.
Agreed. They put too much emphasis on the fact that memory people only are able to express what BP knows or believes, like Tammy truly loving BP or Rick being a nice idealist before the Battle.
The line from Rick when he says “you moved in with a version of our dead daughter” really has my mind going 🤔 what is real, what is not?
Whatever the writers say is
This is all in Birdperson's memories, so we can assume that this really happened and wasn't just made up by Rick (of course he could have lied to Birdperson about it, but I think his actions as young Rock in attacking the Council of Ricks made it pretty clear that it was his real backstory.
Imagine an episode where a Diane who lost Rick and Beth somehow ends up in their universe.
burping Diane in lab coat ? I can see that
Send this shit to DAN HARMON
@@artjacobbermejo5780 NOO they won’t do it then lol they’ve said once the fans ask for something they do the opposite
@@malachigonstire6083 so ask for Diane from an alternate reality, and end up getting what? A shapeshifter pretending to be Diane in an attempt to get Space Beth?
This is exactly what evil Morty is
Also we see a picture of ricks parents in the house and they’re not beth and Jerry so him being morty would be even more complicated
I'm betting all my chips that the incest baby will be involved at the 11th hour.
@@Eccentric_Charlie Popper the May be good person daughter meet have something to do with it all some how
@@stuartmacleod7466 um, what????
Imagine the next door neighbor is Kyle but Rick wiped his memory and let him live a normal life
I love this
Who’s Kyle?
@@no-hz1bl Rick’s assistant before he went on adventures with Morty
Its Gene
Memory Rick said “our dead daughter”…he did NOT discuss the fate of Rick’s wife.
Also if Rick lied to BirdPerson, then this reveal is false (hope it’s not)
FYI Diane is still likely dead given Nimbus’ comment.
Exactly. Rick's wife was never mentioned in this episode. Beth was the one who died.
exactly. the Ricks in Bird Person’s mind are composites of what he knows about Rick and what Rick chose to tell him.
Because he is living with a version of his dead daughter, not dead wife.
I do not think Rick is Morty. I really don’t see that happening. I think the yellow shirt is a very intentional choice though. I think it represents the bright, sunny and optimistic disposition that Morty has and now this episode confirms that Rick used to have.
Just looking at the frame where Rick is sat on the bed and a picture of Mortys room and they both have the elephant lap.. Could it mean something? 🤷♂️
I think this is why the soldiers from the citadel exchange that look when morty claims to be from c-137 in the season 3 opener.
They know that dimension never had a morty, they know why, and they know this is the morty that Rick c-137 must currently be using
C-137 had a Morty. That Morty died in the Cronenberg episode. Rick C-137 is just what other Ricks call him. When he put down his "Dimension of Origin" in another episode he writes N/A. The dimension they're currently in is C-137, but they're not from there. They assumed the identities of the Rick and Morty that died
@@the_quadracorn Rick and Morty didn’t die in the Cronenberg universe though
@@elijahg9271 ... yes, I know. But they jumped to dimension C-137 to get out of Cronenberg world. At least I think so? Will have to revisit
@@the_quadracorn no C137 was there original universe.
@@interesting795 yeah, just checked. But C-137 is just Morty's original universe. In Rick's original universe, Morty was never born because Diane and Beth were killed. Rick doesn't remember which dimension he was from.
Why aren't we discussing how Rick's childhood bedroom was a lot more modernized than a bedroom of his should have been given his age. If it's a perception of his memory fine, but if it's supposed to reflect actual memory then when is Rick from that he would have a race car bed as a child, video game/computer setup, etc.
I was thinking that, too! I was wondering if I just assumed Rick is a lot older than his actual age
@@tripulet youngest he could reasonably be is 50. I assume he’s older than that. It could be reasoned that since memories can be subjective that’s why, but felt “off” for somebody like Rick.
And it seems that lots of places put him at 70. That would mean he was born around 1950. He would have been probably 10-12 in the memory so 1960-62 approximately.
This episode might be showing the reality that this whole time Rick has been trying to free and enlighten Morty to be more like him to save him from heart break that Rick went through.
I think BP’s point is that Rick wouldn’t have told him about his child had the friendship argument worked.
I love how Jessica doesn't get the reference to prisons. "The federation is so stupid" Lololololololol
Evil morty is the only survivor of the first family he tried to crabshell into
Or he isn't the only survivor and they haven't revealed evil summer yet... 👀
These are only BP’s memory interpretation of Ricks life.
Rick probably told BP why he's alone
But when he's lily padding, they go through Rick's memories.
If you're suggesting that Rick just lied to BP that his daughter (and wife probably) died, I'm gonna disagree with you lol. That's not something you lie about to someone you like as much as Rick liked BP
@@Kelarys but Rick was going to lie about BP's daughter existence just to have his friend for himself, I don't think that Rick lying about his family is implausible
I would love for you to go over ricks entire time line from what we know so far at the end of this season. From him starting on earth c137 til now.
What if the term "Finite Curve" means Ricks who's Beth died ? It's conformed in this episode and since there's infinite Ricks, I think that term's meaning is significant and hopefully will come back in a future episode to explain what is meant by it. There seems to be so many versions of him with his family, even some where Beth remarried in Mortynight Run in Season 2. I bet the number of Ricks who lost Beth is much smaller hence the "Finite Curve" Maybe just maybe Morty losing his mom and daughter, hates or blames Rick enough to turn into "Evil Morty." We do get the term "Finite Curve" in the same episode where "Evil Morty" is introduced!!
Morty wasnt born yet when beth died
Talks over “… a version of our dead daughter”
Every reaction I have seen talks over that sentence. So many reactors are missing that
Basically, Rick wanted Bird Person to serve the role that Morty and Summer do, while living like Space Beth.
Diane getting killed probably led to the first episode of season 1.
Good analysis
Thanks
The wheel Rick spins says Kyle 2.0 hinting that the original Kyle probably died sort of like a Robin situation.
The young Rick is part of Birdperson’s memory, so what he knows is what Birdperson knows. Which means Diane’s death is not officially canon yet.
Yeah, and since he's a memory from BP it might just be that's what OG Rick told BP before. But it also doesn't explain why OG Rick would kind of agree to that assumption in their conversation, other than the fact that maybe he's lying there as well
@@znthhh Good point, but you can never trust a Rick anyway :D
@@ASASocial Exactly xD
Mr. Nimbus said that Diane is dead, so it's not only about the memory Rick.
@@Raattchen Yes I agree, now that's a reliable source comparing to a memory of Rick from Birdperson
Its crazy to think that For Bird person the interaction with Rick is almost transactional. Even in the Season 1 episode where Rick had a party, he used a Beacon to call Bird person over, as if there was an emergency, further perpetuating the idea that for BP, he was fulfilling the debt. The details and connections the writers include is amazing.
Brohhhh 🔥🔥🔥well put👌🏽
Rick can’t be a grown up Morty because we literally saw pubescent rick this episode….:
Or that’s just Rick’s memory of what he thinks he looked like…
I love how child Rick had the same hair lol
I love Jessica's strawberry coat!
After listening to the Car AI part of this video I desperately want a Car AI VS Plantina death battle for Mortys love LMAO
I still can’t believe the season only has one more episode left. Wubba Lubba Dub Dub:(
There's 2 more, 9 and 10. 10 will be one hour long
@@SourceOfUs there are both going to be in the same 1 hour special
@@l00kaTuRdAdm8 are you for real ?
L00k aT uR dAd M8 my bad, but that's epic
@@kevinuribe318 ye that’s what they said in the adult swim sneak peak
if beth has been a clone this whole time why wouldn't rick just clone diane too??
Or verse hop for a living one and memory wipe himself?
RICK IS KANG! To be more specific he’s Iron Lad. He was approached by an older version of himself so that the future version could create a younger version with the knowledge of the older version. The younger version refused the older versions offer and spent his life fighting against the council that is full of versions of himself.
I’d say casting for Diane should be Michelle Pfeiffer, use the mcu connections
Has anyone noticed that this season is exploring ricks relationship with other men? Whether that be platonic, romantic, or rivals. But most come off sexual. Mr. Nimbus has such a sex vibe towards everyone, especially rick. All of the competition between rick and the president. And now birdperson. The way that scene played out looked like rick coming out and birdperson rejecting his advances. I dont think saying no to travel would lead rick and birdperson to both see this memory as traumatic. It was a heavy scene with alot of implications. And they stayed friends after this. All 3 ricks were hurt by bp in that moment. And young rick says bp was an ass but bp was nice about it, he turned him down gently, and rick was soooo hurt. If rick was coming onto bp it makes sense that he would react like this to the rejection, bc it hits a bit harder than just being alone nothing matters, thats how they met. Bp says to use the beacon to contact him, and in s1e11 the first thing bp says is the beacon was activated. Does that mean bp and rick haven't seen each other since bloodridge?
21:54 what about an episode where the garage Ai goes on a jolly with the spaceship Ai Thelma and Louise style 😂 that would be epic
BP would have had to know Rick lost his family and some choose the citadel and some choose Beth because he's talking to the memory version BP has of Rick.. and it is clearer now why there's so many Ricks in the Citadel
I need an episode named “rickplicitly mort” where we see morty go off on a solo adventure maybe to save rick and we watch morty turn into a inter dimensional god like Rick
Erik talking about how Kid Rick looks like Morty and I'm just thinking about his hair being naturally blue, not dyed
@Jon Valler We saw back in "Big Trouble in Little Sanchez" that younger Ricks had blue hair. All the clones at various ages did.
@@theotakux5959 I like how 35-year old Rick kept the same hairstyle as young adult clone Rick
the point birdperson was making at the end was that rick would NEVER have told bird person had their not been some self serving reason, he would have ultimately withheld that information forever if he had to until he had the opportunity to use it as a tool to get what he wanted.
Morty's are just the inheriter's of Rick's legacy, after all the Rick's have died.
This season hasn’t been the best but I thought this episode was pretty good.
Ur right it’s been amazing
Episode 1: 10/10
Episode 3: 9/10
Episode 8: 9/10
Rest of the season average: 3/10
I think that Rick sees a lot of his younger self in Morty and thats why Rick takes so much of a liking to him. RIck knows that he used to be like Morty when he was younger so he sees the potential for Morty to grow up and be smart and maybe even better than Rick
I think Morty is how Rick described Beth: He's Rick's grandson. He has his DNA and slight traits. He clearly shows his Sanchez side more than his Smith side. He probably just grows up to be like his grandpa in the same way Kylo Ren did.
Every episode feels like a rare delicacy I get to indulge in.
Morty can't be young Rick because in the death Crystal episode you can see when Morty gets old
It's just one of many possibilities, in other ones he could become a Rick, it doesn't cancel out.
I think Rick manufactured Morty, thats why every Rick gets one even though apparently he’s just a “hypothetical” grandson. He made Morty alot like his old self but he’s trying to make him a better ‘Rick’ so that he doesn’t lose his family like Rick did.
Yeah and Morty's were on sale in the citadel and every different dimension has a Morty.
If anyone has read Chuck Palahniuk's Rant, Morty growing up and being under the watchful eye is a similar story plot. Rick making sure Morty grows up to be smarter and better than Rick is.
I have not read rant but I love invisible monsters and survivor, chuck has such a good sense of how to simply tie everything together, while making it destroy your previous notions of everything you just read
I’m gonna need to see all three of you guys doing the reaction vids together from now on.
Jess' 'Diane Car likes Morty' would be very Back to the Future, so it'd cycle back around
I wonder if Rick ever goes into realities where Diane is still alive
The episode is a setup to the storyline of evil Morty
If Rick can switch verses 2-3 times (Cronenberg/Squirells? Forgeting one I think) Why didn't he go to a Verse with Diane, he's claimed he can replace everyone. Or why not clone Diane like he did Beth?
He didn't have cloning technology when Diane died he wasn't a mad scientist yet...
He didn't clone bird person so i think even Rick can like somepersons
These 2 have the best energy of all the ppl tht work
I think the episode that We see Bird Person again is when he ask Rick for help with Breaking out his daughter from prison
I’d have to look back at older seasons but this season definitely feels like it took a step above last season at least. I mean every season is hilarious to me but this season feels like it’s dropping a lot of clues to theories the fans had.
Soo what they said about this season introducing lore and what not was true
“Canonicity” is a great word since the events you were referred to are only confirmed that Bird-Person remembers it that way.
Thank you Thank you!!! For explaining the whole Diane and Beth’s death. Cause when it aired I turned to my husband and was omg omg did you just hear what he said!? And my husband was like yea... so... lol
Did you see the picture of Rick’s parents ? 😊😊wow! Great episode!
WAIT. Since Rick & Morty abandoned Universe C-137 after Earth was Cronenberged (season 1, episode 6), the Bird Person they interact with (who first appears in season 1, episode 11) is NOT Rick’s original BP. What’s going on with Bird Person C-137?
We also did squirrel world change, so it's not even BP we know.
@@kyleellis9177 🤯 Damn. Good point!
Jessica Clemons is such an absolute delight. I love it when she’s in these videos.
I think they're going to end the season on a cliffhanger type of reveal involving Rick's wife. Something like an evil Morty type of reveal.
16:55 he calls Rick “Bird” 😂
Feel like there was a turning point in ricks life where he had the choice to either stay with his family or actually abandoned them for some reason which lead there to be a lot of “abandon beths” by the rick who time traveled to the Rick who didn’t abandon his family. After that point it just becomes a loop of everything else lol. I absolutely just love this season.
So no one gonna talk about how this mysterious “Kyle” might just be evil Morty ?
Why would mr Nimbus remember Morty with the name Kyle? And with him seeing Morty and saying he liked the OTHER one better means that Kyle looked different right? theres no way that Mr Nimbus can just tell the difference between 2 different Mortys
Ya gonna have to refresh my memory on this Kyle person real quick
I've noticed one detail after this episode confirmed Rick C137 jumped to a world where Beth is alive that means the Morty we follow is not C137 because no Morty exists in that reality? Confirmed is S3E1 when Morty tells the Rick's from the council that he's C137 and they look st him confused.
Morty is from C137, Rick is the one who isn't. C137 became cronenberg world. then they leave squirrel world and came here. Rick is on world 4 at least and Morty on 3.
I figure the looks when he says C137, is because he doesn't look like a cronenberg like the Morty living in his world.
My money is on the season finale having Morty reveal to Beth and Jerry that their Morty and Rick are dead. Then towards the end, either Rick explains to Beth what happened to his wife and daughter or there's a flashback of what happened and Rick never reveals it.
More Jessica PLEASE.
This episode was so good I actually didn't miss Morty one bit. Lol
Watched it live great episode
Best episode of season 5
THIS EPISODE WAS AMAZING.
great video.
So that's why those aliens said that Beth and Jerry's relationship shouldn't exist.
And maybe why Jerry couldn't get a match on Lovefinderrz - perhaps the Beth he is with doesn't/shouldn't exist?
@@lozmcgregor exactly.
I'm starting to get the feeling that it will turn out that the one who sent the bomb to kill Diane, and potentially (Original)Beth could be evil Morti. After all, no one hates the Ricks more, other than the Ricks themselves. Also, the creation of Mortis may rely historically upon that event, especially if the current Beth, is potentially a clone that Rick made to cope, and try to resurrect his daughter, but ended up abandoning in his grief. Thus Morti being born would be reliant upon the event of the original Beth dying and Rick running off on his revenge quest and eventually forming the council or Ricks and all that. Not to mention, there is the potentially that Morti is not really Beth and Jerry's child at all. Mortis might straight up be artificial creations by Ricks for their value as stealth devices and underling purposes, and the idea of them being grandchildren born to Beth might just be artificial memory implants.
Glad im not the only one that suspects someone else dropped the bomb besides Evil Rick
The last episode is an hour long!! Can't wait!!!
I feel like a big part of this episode was missed. In the end, it isn't shown that Young Rick leaves ricks mind. Because of this I wonder if the "change" people have seen in Rick this season is really him gaining traits from his younger self in his mind. Considering this episode took place before the others?
The best lies have a grain of truth. Beth and Diane were killed by citadel Ricks, but maybe in a completely different way.
I agree
Bird Daughter could age faster/differently to what we expect
Seeing as how Rick is bi-sexual did it seem like he was actually in love with bird person at the blood ridge scene and trying to subtly ask him out?
Rick is bi?
@@snails4brains854 yes he was in a relationship/had sex with Mr. Nimbus
Rick's dad has a nice mustache
One thing people are not seeming to see is that the Memory Rick is Bird-Persons memory of Rick and I'm unsure if anything he says can be trusted when it could be just his interpretation of what Rick told Bird-person about himself.
Rick could have said something like that to Bird-person in the past. that "there are Ricks who live with beths that were abandoned." and that his "real daughter is dead" it doesnt necessarily mean that its cannon.
Although it does seem that the blue pants rick is younger than the Blood ridge Memory Rick. Memory Rick lost his daughter you can see it in his eyes. So the time line in my opinion is Blue pants rick loist his daughter and became blood ridge rick which later became our Rick.
Imagine, if Rick was the real reason the Citadel exists
It seems the real Rick timeline goes two diff ways. Either he abandons his family or they are killed by other Ricks to make him abandon that life.
I think that we can't actually guarantee that what the memory Rick is saying is true to our Rick. He after all isn't a memory of our Rick he is a memory of the Rick our Rick replaced after all. I would say some facts will obviously overlap like the battle and how b.p. reacted thou.
I believe that's a fairly large leap to assume that just because our Rick's Beth is confirmed to have died that Rick's fabricated memory of Beth and Diane's death actually happened. Consider that Mr.Nimbus acknowledges the passing of Diane in our current dimension, which actually still has a Beth. So at the very least, the Diane of our current dimension died independent of Beth. What I find most interesting about all of this is that even though Rick has chosen to hop dimensions to be with other versions of his family, Diane never seems to be a part of any of these families. It's like he couldn't find a universe where Diane was not deceased (seems unlikely to me), OR he chooses dimensions that do not have a Diane. I'm not really sure what this all means, but it's interesting that Rick actively chooses to be with some version of Beth, but not Diane.
On the scene that memory Rick jumps off to save the original; he sounds like morty. "Remember meeeeeeeee"
actually, it's not sure that his wife and even his original beth are dead, because Rick ist C-137 and he changed the universe several times. Even with morty. So Bird-person is not his original best friend at all.
Never not finished a RUclips video from NR until now
The conflict between Rick and Bird Person is an exercise in Absurdism, truly!!
Like, it's TRUE, NOTHING MATTERS, insofar as there is no inherent meaning or purpose in the universe
BUT, because nothing matters, we have the opportunity to MAKE THINGS MATTER.
Rick is a Flailing Absurdist, in my opinion (like so many of us are, really, lol) and I see him as a probably-too-often-relatable character to anyone who has ever struggled with reconciling Nihilism with Action. I like him; he tries. I think that's worth recognizing.
AM I JUST PROJECTING, THOUGH?????? Lol
If rick living with a version of his dead daughter is weird, then every version of Rick that has a Morty is therefore just as weird
As a fellow Summer i feel you Jess.
Is this canon though?? Remember this was Bird person memories NOT Rick's. So could have Rick just lied to him about what happen to Dianna and Beth?🤷🏽♀️ Remember the whole time Bird person didnt know the reason it cared about the great war he just fought with Rick just because and he didnt know what Best and Dianna look like til later years.
Just a thought!
Can we please get a Ricksplained on the anime specials that were aired randomly? I loved them sooooo much.