The writers of endgame were overruled by the director who has final say (Feigie has final final say I would imagine). Cap lived in a different timeline he was NOT hiding in the MCU in the background.
Joe Locke wasn’t lying when he said that ep. 7 was the best episode. Makes me feel a little bit nervous about the finale but at least I’ll take comfort I’ll enjoy it more than Secret Invasion
Just an added note. I don't know if someone already said this, but, when I saw the Salem Seven walking backwards, I remembered a Halloween superstition, where, if you wear your clothes inside out and walked backwards, you'll spot a witch. I think that's pretty neat.
I also think it is used to continue the Wizard of Oz parallel because they all were following a yellow path and yellow roots but are now reaching their proverbial Emerald city hence the green roots
40:13 It is also worth mentioning that Time In A Bottle was released two months after Jim Croce passed in a plane crash, which I feel is particularly pertinent to this episode's themes.
This episode reminded me of the Watchmen episode A God Walks Into A Bar when we see things from Dr. Manhattan's perspective and how him experiencing all of his existence at once changes his interaction and understanding of time
In episode 2, the witches road did not appear to them after the song. Teenager was up stairs being harassed by the Salem 7. Then a hexagonal cellar door appears under Agatha. It glows blue like Teenager's magic. Magic he uses in states of heighten emotion. food for thought
If so though, wouldn’t he have full control over and be cognizant of it? Like he would know how to complete all the trials. Unless it’s a subconscious manifestation
I love the “Unstuck Mind” concept! I wrote a short story in high school about a US government department dealing with time travel (this is years before the TVA came to the MCU but a similar aesthetic) and one of the characters suffered from “Temporal Dysplasia”, a result of travelling through time too much and therefore his mind had become temporally entangled, pulling him forward and back through time mentally (but staying in the present physically).
Anyone notice when Lilia is young talking the sky looks like the inside of the soul stone. Very similar concept if youve played any persona game where tarot is played in the heart of your soul
My last name is Ajer and is pronounced like ager and I was a kid I literally thought teens were called teen and then what their last name was so people were saying I was going to be a teen-Ajer. This joke made my childhood so happy 😂😂😂
The 10 of Swords being the “destination” card of Agatha’s condescending spread is actually great though, a body riddled with swords that fell on it from above….
Almost exactly 12 minutes into the episode (and also seen a bit before that) there is a sword that is literary Hofund, the bifrost sword used by heimdall, just smaller. (At exactly 12 minutes in, it is directly in the middle of the screen, and a couple seconds before that it can be seen in the right side of the screen)
Actually that tree in the Wizard of Oz is pulling off his own unborn children and throwing them at Dorothy, if his fruit serve the same purpose as regular tree fruit. But then, it's sweet because the trees benefit from animals eating the fruit and spreading the seeds in their poop. So maybe just trees are messed up in general.
5:00 Even if wanda ends up being his mother, rebecca is his mom. Shes the one thats been raising him for almost all his life. A lil wordplay to leave the possibility open for both
What if the blurry figure was jen in the tunnels? I also found it really interesting that lilia has a good witch outfit but all the rest have bad ones. Also, I wonder if there were any swords in the middle as that seemed to be where lilia would land (not counting that it's a heck of a fall)
It feels like everything up to Billy saying "I wish Lilia was here" was just a bit of preamble to get out of the way before the real episode. and yet i loved all that too!!!! Amazing episode.
Also, the writers of Endgame are wrong. Steve did not live in the background of the "main" timeline. The Russo Brothers have confirmed he went to another timeline. I will die on this hill.
Also the Russo Brothers and the writers don't really control the overall narrative of the entire MCU. They can say whatever they want as their intentions are for this film and this film alone. The Russo's have gone on record saying, they set things up, and closed some doors, but they could never understand where it would go. It's not up to them. We have to view everything post endgame to better understand the time travel rules and the truth is, it goes both ways depending on the story they want to tell.
Definitely went to another timeline and just came back to 616 to deliver the shield and hammer. You could see Peggy Carter at the TVA in Loki probably getting pruned for violating it with him 😂
Agatha been to the real witches road. That witches' road version they came in was Billy's Hex, that's why Agatha was so confused and scared but then later realized it's Billy's hex road.
Lovely work again I’ve been a fan for years and i still feel the same joy and intrigue from my first video till now thank you for that for real and long may it continue
not sure if it was overlooked, but the framing of billy/agatha walking up to the castle is the same framing that we got from lokis1ep5 when they found the citadel. from the front and the back
Emergency Awesome suggested the train station might suggest the road is a hex like reality warp manifestation from Billy, and I’m all in on this theory! The whole road is to a degree to Billy what the hex was to Wanda.
I really like how all of these separate nerd channels come away with different bits that they notice and theorize. I am all for the Wiccan Hex theory myself.
am i the only one seeing letters on those golden roots? i haven't made the effort to keep track tho, coz i'm waiting for other theorists may notice and just interpret them for me 😂
I actually think that Billy may have manifested this version of “The Road” 7:45 It’s not actually the witches road, but a hex of his own making that he is unaware of. 11:35 is more evidence
Remember that one of the released images showed him drawing the portal and then an overhead shot of him appearing to bring it to life… blue glow from his hands and the portal itself glowing blue through the wooden floor slats.
Since viewers saw the items in Billy's room that also appeared in the trials, this theory has become popular with some of us. :) Given that Billy of the comics is known to be able to warp reality in much the same way as his spiritual mother the Scarlet Witch, I think it's a fairly plausible theory.
LFG!!!!!! I AM SO DAMN READY FOR THE FINALE before Halloween next week, what a time to be alive. LETS GET IT. Jac Schaeffer NEEDS to direct a future movie
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The writers of endgame were overruled by the director who has final say (Feigie has final final say I would imagine). Cap lived in a different timeline he was NOT hiding in the MCU in the background.
Fact
I'm waiting for the Bohner discount.
specifically the wild unknown tarot deck i have it pretty price
Patti Lupone deserves an Emmy for her performance in this show, especially this episode. May Lilia rest in peace.
I greatly agree
She's my favourite character by far
Saying a character RIP when leaked footage from next weeks finale clearly shows they did not die makes me laugh every time 😂
@@matthewgrulke109 uh!!! excuse me? don't get my hopes up please T-T where can i find this?
never clicked faster in my life. this was the best episode of marvel tv since the loki finale,
same😭
True, one of the great series created by Marvel
100% accurate
Lmao nah
@itsnick5082 it is bruh...
Jac Schaeffer is a top notch genius! No one's touching that Scarlet Witch movie but her!
and the writers of all the episodes
dudes the episode was an audiovisual masterpiece, WHAT? Still processing all the amazing work they put into this series
207 likes and no comets? let me fix that.
literally been on my phone waiting for this one😭😭
I second that
Its crazy cause this video is longer than the episode lol I LOVE IT
Real
SAME
Joe Locke wasn’t lying when he said that ep. 7 was the best episode. Makes me feel a little bit nervous about the finale but at least I’ll take comfort I’ll enjoy it more than Secret Invasion
Just an added note. I don't know if someone already said this, but, when I saw the Salem Seven walking backwards, I remembered a Halloween superstition, where, if you wear your clothes inside out and walked backwards, you'll spot a witch. I think that's pretty neat.
Ohhhh so they were trying to use this superstition to find Agatha, the witch they would “spot” by walking backwards
I didnt know that.. I just thought they were beiing extra creepy
@@surfacematter2098 I think it’s a reference to Wanda’s first appearance in Age of Ultron where she’s walking backwards with the same stuttery effect
Facts: WandaVision, Loki and Agatha All Along are the 3 best MCU shows to date
What If....?
Moon Knight gotta be 4th then
Agree with what if
@@Smkpt42eh it was okay. thanos being all chill and not a mad titan was a literal crime
Moon Knight ahead of WandaVision
Someone please make a video showing episode 7 but in chronological order. Not in lilia's pov, but other characters pov.
this is EXACTLY what I want!
I want to be notified when this is made lol
I was thinking about this all day!
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I came here to make the same request!
This episode is my favorite so far, from the symbolism to the foreshadowing and time in a bottle at the end was the cherry on top
Fully agree it's such an awesome series
I’m always impressed that you can analyze, record, produce, and publish these videos so fast, at such a high level!
I'm starting to think these guys jump around in time like Lillia
I think these guys get early access to these episodes and just release the videos according to when we see that episode.
@@parthjindal1924maybe the earlier episodes but not these last ones
I think the green roots might also represent Billy’s trial. Since Billy was supposed to be the coven’s green witch all along!
Exactly. It looks like they are even back in Westview at Wanda and/or Bohners house for the trial.
I also think it is used to continue the Wizard of Oz parallel because they all were following a yellow path and yellow roots but are now reaching their proverbial Emerald city hence the green roots
@@Smitty-Spleeson oh that is a great catch!
Did no one else notice that the golden seams through the dirt tunnel are similar to Japanese kintsugi, like the Citadel at the End of Time in "Loki"?
I did! I just bought a kit on Amazon.
22:27 The subway tunnels are their way off the road in the finale, and Mrs. Hart referenced them before. The "failed underground railway system"
Amazing catch!
I sprained my foot running here. Worth it
This episode was absolutely excellent, just brilliant!
“The whole TIME” is my favorite reoccurring meme… that’s how you know I’ve been watching this channel for so long
@@natez-b39 I need to rewatch that movie so badly!
They are inside of Billy’s hex. That’s why he starts each trial and every set is based on items in his room.
I have been refreshing this page all day! What an episode
The Raquel Welch memoir being there is so funny, you guys rule for catching that
This episode imo is my absolute favorite. The disorientation we feel as we follow Lilia was so surreal and an experience that's so fun to rewatch
I think this episode is such a beautiful display of the time-slipping type of time travel from Slaughterhouse Five, LOST, and Agents of Shield!
Okay?
When was the time slipping in AOS?
@@MHruskamusic Robin Hinton in season 5.
40:13 It is also worth mentioning that Time In A Bottle was released two months after Jim Croce passed in a plane crash, which I feel is particularly pertinent to this episode's themes.
This episode reminded me of the Watchmen episode A God Walks Into A Bar when we see things from Dr. Manhattan's perspective and how him experiencing all of his existence at once changes his interaction and understanding of time
Literally just finished watching the episode not 15 seconds ago. So excited to watch the breakdown immediately after!!!!
I was also just about to look for it anyway 😅
21:43 blew my mind thinking of it from that perspective that this is all just a slight glimpse of young Lilia's tea leaf lesson! Genius!
I think Agatha did finish the Witches Road, but this is not TWR. This is Billy’s Hex.
Omggg 😮
🎯🎯 like mother like son
In episode 2, the witches road did not appear to them after the song. Teenager was up stairs being harassed by the Salem 7. Then a hexagonal cellar door appears under Agatha. It glows blue like Teenager's magic. Magic he uses in states of heighten emotion. food for thought
This isn’t the Witches’ Road. It’s Billy Kaplan’s Hex. He has the same tell as his mother.
I was just going to say that - the maximof tell is creating a hex to work through their trauma
What is the tell? I bet this is way off.
If so though, wouldn’t he have full control over and be cognizant of it? Like he would know how to complete all the trials. Unless it’s a subconscious manifestation
So why is Alice dead?
@@Andrew-ww1hz Wanda didn't have full control for a while
This episode quite literally had me on the edge of my seat, it was SOOOOO good 😩 I loved every minute of it!
10:56 the shadee killed me 😭😭
15:04 Kudos the writers of the episode!!! 🎉🎉🎉
Ditto!
💯
This was truly an amazing episode. RIP Lilia ❤ you were the best of the coven.
Thought it was Agatha I loved, then Billy, but this ep proves it was Lilia All Along😢 Great episode!
39:23 there was a crow, an owl, and a cicada. Three can fly. I think they are all dead since we see them all fall
I know they keep saying 2 this 2 that but it is 3.
I love the “Unstuck Mind” concept! I wrote a short story in high school about a US government department dealing with time travel (this is years before the TVA came to the MCU but a similar aesthetic) and one of the characters suffered from “Temporal Dysplasia”, a result of travelling through time too much and therefore his mind had become temporally entangled, pulling him forward and back through time mentally (but staying in the present physically).
Temporal Dysplasia… have you seen Stitchers by any chance?
Sounds like the uncle in About Time, since only the men Time travel
I cried! Bittersweet! This one was the best IMO
Anyone notice when Lilia is young talking the sky looks like the inside of the soul stone.
Very similar concept if youve played any persona game where tarot is played in the heart of your soul
"YOU KNOW HOW LOOOOONG I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS?"
Approximately 70 hours.
WOOIMABOUTMAKEANAMEFORMYSELFHERE LOL.
My last name is Ajer and is pronounced like ager and I was a kid I literally thought teens were called teen and then what their last name was so people were saying I was going to be a teen-Ajer. This joke made my childhood so happy 😂😂😂
The 10 of Swords being the “destination” card of Agatha’s condescending spread is actually great though, a body riddled with swords that fell on it from above….
Almost exactly 12 minutes into the episode (and also seen a bit before that) there is a sword that is literary Hofund, the bifrost sword used by heimdall, just smaller. (At exactly 12 minutes in, it is directly in the middle of the screen, and a couple seconds before that it can be seen in the right side of the screen)
Actually that tree in the Wizard of Oz is pulling off his own unborn children and throwing them at Dorothy, if his fruit serve the same purpose as regular tree fruit. But then, it's sweet because the trees benefit from animals eating the fruit and spreading the seeds in their poop. So maybe just trees are messed up in general.
Explains why Andy Dwyer was so Mad at Thanos. April Ludgate had a thing for Thanos.
This episode was so deep that for the first time I’m glad there’s a week between episodes. I need time to process.
What if Billy is rewriting the Darkhold in his little pocket book. OR, if time is cyclical, then maybe he wrote the darkhold all along.
Never thought about that, very interesting.
2nd option not possible: I believe it was explicitly stated that the monument at Wundagore was the original source of the contents of the darkhold.
That very interesting.
That pocket book is kept being focused on for a reason me thinks.
I can’t imagine writing this episode. What a task.
But can you imagine the satisfaction when it worked? Gotta feel good.
Exactly absolutely crazy 😅
Teared me up in those last few minutes 🥹
Also all the the mentions of "WIND" and the fall that this was the trial of Air.
3:32. What's up, Danger?
I've been loving this ride with you! I do believe that the big twist is that this isn't the witches road at all. It is a hex under billy's control.
This episode was so crazy and confusing.
Thanks, thumbs up, have a great day.
Dang your explanation at the end gave me chills. That is such a beautiful message they wove into that episode!
5:00 Even if wanda ends up being his mother, rebecca is his mom. Shes the one thats been raising him for almost all his life. A lil wordplay to leave the possibility open for both
IVE BEEN WAITING ALL DAAAAAAYYYY ERICK!!!!!!
"Hey Judy do these uppers" jail now
What if the blurry figure was jen in the tunnels? I also found it really interesting that lilia has a good witch outfit but all the rest have bad ones. Also, I wonder if there were any swords in the middle as that seemed to be where lilia would land (not counting that it's a heck of a fall)
I wish I could watch this episode again for the first time 🥲
agatha saying "yes, no, maybe" to wanda being dead makes me 100% sure that wanda is not dead
It feels like everything up to Billy saying "I wish Lilia was here" was just a bit of preamble to get out of the way before the real episode. and yet i loved all that too!!!! Amazing episode.
Also, the writers of Endgame are wrong. Steve did not live in the background of the "main" timeline. The Russo Brothers have confirmed he went to another timeline. I will die on this hill.
Also the Russo Brothers and the writers don't really control the overall narrative of the entire MCU. They can say whatever they want as their intentions are for this film and this film alone. The Russo's have gone on record saying, they set things up, and closed some doors, but they could never understand where it would go. It's not up to them.
We have to view everything post endgame to better understand the time travel rules and the truth is, it goes both ways depending on the story they want to tell.
Definitely went to another timeline and just came back to 616 to deliver the shield and hammer. You could see Peggy Carter at the TVA in Loki probably getting pruned for violating it with him 😂
I love being a witch.
Agatha been to the real witches road. That witches' road version they came in was Billy's Hex, that's why Agatha was so confused and scared but then later realized it's Billy's hex road.
Lovely work again I’ve been a fan for years and i still feel the same joy and intrigue from my first video till now thank you for that for real and long may it continue
Wow! So happy I checked RUclips when I did!
Lilia agrees with Nell from ‘Haunting of Hill House’… “it’s all just confetti”.
Time being linear being the route popular in mcu makes me happy because Fitz in AOS said this way back in s3 that we can’t necessarily change it.
not sure if it was overlooked, but the framing of billy/agatha walking up to the castle is the same framing that we got from lokis1ep5 when they found the citadel. from the front and the back
One of these best episodes to date of anything
34:48 WandaVision Metro…
the writing on this episode is just golden :D
10:55 lmaoo did he call out cynthia
Emergency Awesome suggested the train station might suggest the road is a hex like reality warp manifestation from Billy, and I’m all in on this theory! The whole road is to a degree to Billy what the hex was to Wanda.
I really like how all of these separate nerd channels come away with different bits that they notice and theorize. I am all for the Wiccan Hex theory myself.
This episode was peak Marvel Television!🌙🔮✨️
am i the only one seeing letters on those golden roots? i haven't made the effort to keep track tho, coz i'm waiting for other theorists may notice and just interpret them for me 😂
Runes ? Or Subway markings?
@@TheWobblyQueen even the green marking inside the iron maiden looked like a letter to me. or am i just seeing things lol
I can’t believe we only have one week left. 😭💜
This was by far my favorite episode so far
Dory is time slipping, confirmed
Sea monkey has my money! 😂
Best episode of the series, not even close. And one of the best single episodes of Marvel tv in a while.
Script and direction was complicated but they delivered spot on
I actually think that Billy may have manifested this version of “The Road” 7:45
It’s not actually the witches road, but a hex of his own making that he is unaware of. 11:35 is more evidence
Remember that one of the released images showed him drawing the portal and then an overhead shot of him appearing to bring it to life… blue glow from his hands and the portal itself glowing blue through the wooden floor slats.
Since viewers saw the items in Billy's room that also appeared in the trials, this theory has become popular with some of us. :) Given that Billy of the comics is known to be able to warp reality in much the same way as his spiritual mother the Scarlet Witch, I think it's a fairly plausible theory.
Kinda like Dorothy pulling elements from home into Oz unknowingly, like dreaming
10:56 the shade 😭
17:54 thank you for bringing up Agents of SHIELD. My mind immediately went to Robin.
Honestly i want those freaking cards from agatha all along they are soooo coollll😍
It makes me wonder if their coven are actually the witches of the Tarot.
Best episode of the series... Loved it
so excited for you harry potter analysis. however i wish the movies were faithful to the books so i could see your analysis of those
Great episode! I burst into tears at the end. Love that you caught the sword of Damocles reference! I was hoping someone would mention this
Just realised that the gold lines on the wall are similar to the gold cracks in Kangs tower 26:00
LFG!!!!!!
I AM SO DAMN READY FOR THE FINALE before Halloween next week, what a time to be alive. LETS GET IT. Jac Schaeffer NEEDS to direct a future movie
Been checking back all day for this!!
34:57 it might be the real train line and the whole road is just Billy’s hex.
This was one of the greatest episodes in MCU tv
7:00 I was so scared of those trees as a kid!
Such a brilliant episode been waiting for your video!
I didn't realize till just now seeing 39:31, that the roof of the tower in the card is shaped and colored like Billy's crown
Thank you for making sense of the chaos
i need someone to chronogically order this episode
as a broadway nerd, this episode is up there with ozymandias for me
There was a lot of similarities to the trial episode of Moon Knight in this episode. Sooo so good.
For what it’s worth, Margaret Hamilton, who played the Wicked Witch of the West, and Kathryn Hahn are both Clevelanders.