Man i wish the suit lady came back in the future movies. They went through this whole thing with Peter getting along with this AI and confiding in her and then she just doesnt come back ever.
There was a fan made story, FanFiction, of Karen still knowing Peter is Spider-Man, since she’s a AI. It was an awesome and sad story. It was after Strange did the last spell.
@@evad__1131 People like when shits serious and ignore what makes Spider-Man.. Spider-Man. He's quippy and annoying to his enemy's. Thats why Tom is the GOAT for that. Just look at the infamous comic panel of when green goblin finds out spider man returns after superior spider-man.
Other than. The powers and saving countless lives. I always feel bad for Peter, he got his teenage life took away from him and left with such a big responsibility. Although the city and the avengers need Spider-man people also need Peter Parker. I always think who would he be if he was never bitten by that spider Peter was always a genius.
There's actually a comic book where flash kills the spider before it bites Peter when hitting him. He eventually ends up stumbling on a crime scene and ends up helping someone else (can't remember who) to take down criminals through his tech. Basically he always becomes a hero or does good in some form
What you explained is why we all love spidey, hes a regular person and has taken the brunt of the world cause hes just that dude. I love tom holland as spiderman and I grew up with tobey.
well, smart =/= wise. He built his own web shooter with nothing more than the resource from high school. Also he could've disable the Vulture's wing, but he didn't. No complain from me, because its kinda in-character too.
@@JordanCramer93 yes i understand that, i still stand with my statement, smart =/= wise. He is smart enough to build one of the most complex device on earth, you can't build a web shooter that can work 100% like he did. No one can. We only gotten as far as a cheap knockoff device that works more like a grappling hook. But he's dumb when it comes to outsmarting his enemy, the first thing i thought in this scene is to take down the wingsuit while he's distracted. I was frustrated when he didn't, but then i remember, the guy didn't really have that much battle experiences, so it makes sense, he's a kid.
I think the beauty of the first trilogy is that we arent quickly told "with great power comes great responsibility" We get to see in 3 movies just how irresponsible peter is with his powers and even his good intentions. It hits home much deeper because we ourselves lost tony right with peter. That hits significantly harder than the same ol uncle ben dies storyline. We get basically no time to care as much about him as peter does. Hell we all knew ironman before peter was even in the mcu. That relationship with the audience is stronger. We get to see peter living comfortably knowing ironman or the avengers will always be there. Now it's all ripped away, and he must figure out who is spider-man truly. Even more interesting is tom's peter's choice to try and kill goblin. He was TOLD the famous quote, but he obviously at that point didnt heed those words. If they play their cards right, the theme of the next trilogy should be peter struggling to implement what May told him; him being pushed to the brink and choosing how he will define his heroism. Put the black suit in there too and you have a perfect recipe to convert tom to PRIME spiderman with all the traits and quips that we know and love. The first trilogy, intentional or not, was the perfect setup for this, and I am on board for what they have next! My only concern is the secret wars stuff getting in the way of this beautiful setup....
Take the fight with doc oc for example. If he were in his normal suit, he wouldn’t be able to protect his chest when doc tried to impale him nor use the suit to control the tentacles. Those nanobots come with a whole lot of upgrades.
Spider-Man is the most famous fictional non-religious character in the world. His existence, and any incarnations of him, are going to be critiqued. Also, criticism is what separates good art from bad art.
Really didnt like how all the tech plus his suits were handed to him by Stark, I'd rather he invented the suit himself like the other live action spider-men. I mean after you get to scrap with Thanos using a suit you didnt even make, is there any room for improvement? Tony literally brought out the best of his potential, everything we see from here on out is Peter trying to make himself as competent as he once was in those glory days when Tony was still alive, even the competence and the power levels of the villains he fights takes a drastic dive.
You are missing the main point that this Peter is young and only been spiderman for less then a year. He makes mistakes, he is naïve and Stark is like a Guardian/father figure to him. That's why he built his suit and also gave him the "Training wheels protocol" - throughout all Tom holland spiderman movies. You can see he slowly progresses his abilities and maturity. He then later makes his own suit when Tony past away, still using Tony's technology to do it. It's been made with detail to the fact he is young Spiderman.
One way to look at it that makes me appreciate things is how this Amateur Peter has the avengers to back him up (especially tony) where as the other spidermen didn’t. All to come into full circle by no way home finally showing us the introduction to the peter parker we know with the ending. It only made it so much bitter sweet and never have I ever sympathized with pete in a deeper level.
Mj was never Peter's main choice. In the comics anyway. MJ came around much later after Spiderman had been around for awhile. It's kinda of a way to show that connection.
1:47 Wait wait wait, why is she saying meters ? I know that Metric System is the superior one, and Tony Stark being a superior Inteligence would use Metric, But I AM PRETTY SURE that Despite Peters inteligence he would still be cursed with the Imperial System, So the suit would be adapted for him.
Also, since Spider-Man is actually highly intelligent, I think he'd easily understand the Metric System. He's more intelligent than a lot of other Americans.
I agree on the criticism of the suit having so much tech and Stark being very involved in Peter's life. But besides that, I consider Homecoming a good Spider-Man movie. I mean, not the best, but at least decent in terms of a rookie Spidey.
I wish the suit wasnt that overpowered. It makes him way too reliant on it rather than on his own powers, we basically get Iron Man Junior instead of a Spider Man.
"If you're nothing without the suit, then you shouldn't have it" Then he takes down the vulture with his own tech without the Tony suit. In the second movie, he actually designed his own suit (albeit with stark tech) In the third movie, he loses everything and everyone and has to start from scratch all alone. Making his own suit. (Its already been shown he developed his own web fluid in the first movie). The home trilogy is basically training wheels + a long origin story.
I liked Spiderman better without all of the suit gadgets. This is a Marvel action movie and has some good points and good acting, but it doesn't seem like a "Spiderman" movie.
They are already 5 movies of him without tech. Why do you want the same thing over and over again? At least this movie was actually refreshing and something different.
"rebellious group activity the day before a competition is good for morale." "I heard it in a Ted talk" I'm sorry but do kids these day really talk like this now a days?
I don’t mind Tom hollands spiderman at all, but my least favorite part of it all is how they did flash. They turned him into some nerdy dickhead instead of the classic jock who’s always messing with poor Peter Parker. Could’ve just named him someone else and that would’ve been better
Damn, it's really crazy to see only a few years after this movie came out that we have a very similar personal assistant Spiderman had but for the masses. ChatGPT; Spiderman's assistant's distant cousin.
@ I’m just saying Toby and Andrew barely anything and they were able to take their villains. Peter needs a stark suit just to take on an old guy with wings.
This spiderman needed too much help, all the O.G. needed was..."with great power comes great responsibility". He wouldve been cooler if he mad his tech himself. Anybody would be badass with iron making there shit
@@onenonlyethan2239 The visual tracking, the many many web options, it has a stealth mode, an assistant that gives him information on both his gadgets and his surroundings, it even calculated where Peter need to shoot his webs to stop the ship from splitting apart, and a literal kill mode that lets the suit fight FOR him. OG Peter just had his webs, his will and his debts, but that was all he needed
@@tumbleweed420hits I think that's what really interesting about the arc of these three movies. This Peter *realizes* that he doesn't need any of these things. The final result of this trilogy was him ending up exactly where OG Peter starts his own adult life.
y'all really had this convenient memory loss when peter had to fight the vulture on the plane with just his old homemade suit in the first one, or when he made his own suit to fight mysterio.
It's a government trailer protecting alien technology in a world that has super-powered humans and aliens. You have to figure that Peter's durability scales with his strength. He can jump with enough force to knock himself out.
I'd take Iron Boy Jr over the Sonyverse nonsense anyday. At least this Spider-Man isn't the only hero in his universe. And his villains do exist because of him.
Man i wish the suit lady came back in the future movies. They went through this whole thing with Peter getting along with this AI and confiding in her and then she just doesnt come back ever.
actually it would be cool if he finds her again and she some how remembers him. "highly unlikely but still, you never know"
The voice of “suit lady” is provided by none other than the ever gorgeous and scintillating Jennifer Connelly.
There was a fan made story, FanFiction, of Karen still knowing Peter is Spider-Man, since she’s a AI. It was an awesome and sad story. It was after Strange did the last spell.
@@evad__1131there was a fan made story, FanFiction of Karen still knowing that Peter is Spider-Man since she’s a AI
He really didn't have to notify him taking the bag...................
He was litterally clear to just leave undetected
Yeah Peter always likes to talks to bad guys and evil guys about what they doing is wrong
@Shadow82311 he didn't have to do that. He could've avoid the entire interaction. Being locked up, etc.
@@jeannin.wallace2795 yeah, i know Tobey and Andrew from previous Spider man Movies are more mature and didn’t say that much compared to Tom’s Version
@@jeannin.wallace2795 comic spiderman would have done the same thing mind you.
@@evad__1131 People like when shits serious and ignore what makes Spider-Man.. Spider-Man. He's quippy and annoying to his enemy's. Thats why Tom is the GOAT for that. Just look at the infamous comic panel of when green goblin finds out spider man returns after superior spider-man.
1:14 I love that part, most accurate reaction to hearing a voice in your head🙌🏾😆
Other than. The powers and saving countless lives. I always feel bad for Peter, he got his teenage life took away from him and left with such a big responsibility. Although the city and the avengers need Spider-man people also need Peter Parker. I always think who would he be if he was never bitten by that spider Peter was always a genius.
There's actually a comic book where flash kills the spider before it bites Peter when hitting him. He eventually ends up stumbling on a crime scene and ends up helping someone else (can't remember who) to take down criminals through his tech. Basically he always becomes a hero or does good in some form
What you explained is why we all love spidey, hes a regular person and has taken the brunt of the world cause hes just that dude. I love tom holland as spiderman and I grew up with tobey.
I think it's his destiny to become a hero, If not from the spider then some other way.
well, it's a canon event. Peter will always be spider-man
If he was never bitten by that spider, he wouldn't exist bc Stan Lee would have had no reason to create him.
5:14 Ladies and gentlemen, the smartest guy Liz ever met
well, smart =/= wise.
He built his own web shooter with nothing more than the resource from high school.
Also he could've disable the Vulture's wing, but he didn't.
No complain from me, because its kinda in-character too.
@ I’m talking about knocking himself out
@@JordanCramer93 yes i understand that, i still stand with my statement, smart =/= wise.
He is smart enough to build one of the most complex device on earth, you can't build a web shooter that can work 100% like he did. No one can. We only gotten as far as a cheap knockoff device that works more like a grappling hook.
But he's dumb when it comes to outsmarting his enemy, the first thing i thought in this scene is to take down the wingsuit while he's distracted. I was frustrated when he didn't, but then i remember, the guy didn't really have that much battle experiences, so it makes sense, he's a kid.
To be honest, if there was no ceiling when you last looked, would you expect there to be one the next time you look?
Yeah? He’s still super smart, it’d just that he lacks experience and wisdom.
3:05, I just realised that these would have been the web constructs
one of the webs looks like it is called "venom web"
I think the beauty of the first trilogy is that we arent quickly told "with great power comes great responsibility"
We get to see in 3 movies just how irresponsible peter is with his powers and even his good intentions.
It hits home much deeper because we ourselves lost tony right with peter. That hits significantly harder than the same ol uncle ben dies storyline. We get basically no time to care as much about him as peter does.
Hell we all knew ironman before peter was even in the mcu. That relationship with the audience is stronger.
We get to see peter living comfortably knowing ironman or the avengers will always be there. Now it's all ripped away, and he must figure out who is spider-man truly.
Even more interesting is tom's peter's choice to try and kill goblin.
He was TOLD the famous quote, but he obviously at that point didnt heed those words.
If they play their cards right, the theme of the next trilogy should be peter struggling to implement what May told him; him being pushed to the brink and choosing how he will define his heroism.
Put the black suit in there too and you have a perfect recipe to convert tom to PRIME spiderman with all the traits and quips that we know and love.
The first trilogy, intentional or not, was the perfect setup for this, and I am on board for what they have next!
My only concern is the secret wars stuff getting in the way of this beautiful setup....
Technically we new Spiderman almost a decade before tony
@@zachcarter3186 not tom and those werent mcu spidermen
@jenaratefilms7519
I mean they are now
Well 1 thing I know about Sony, they don’t play cards
That's alot of words, too bad i aint reading them
Can we talk about wild it is that Tony gave a teenager the ability to instant kill people.
We can’t because he didn’t, superhuman strength already grants that ability
7:18 tony stark was already a superhero
That's not what he was saying lol
someone "like" tony stark
One of my favorite scenes from Homecoming!
4:07 I never noticed that vulture’s wings hover in the air above the truck while it’s moving. Nice touch
And if you focus on his googles you might notice a green light too
thank you captains obvious
@ I mean it’s not *that* obvious
@@ajunlimited he literally talks about the anchors and you see the wings are tethered to said anchors.
@@tumbleweed420hits ahhh this comment made me crack up -thanks
I remember watching this for the first time thinking if that suit can do all that. Wtf is the point of him getting the iron spider suit later on .??
So he can breathe in space lol
Take the fight with doc oc for example. If he were in his normal suit, he wouldn’t be able to protect his chest when doc tried to impale him nor use the suit to control the tentacles. Those nanobots come with a whole lot of upgrades.
He literally give himself a concussion in this scene! The point of the Iron Spider Suit is obvious! It's an Ironman suit!
0:11 gave him that
I auditioned for that role 16 times
Can't believe he chose Mary Jane Doe over her
Call the black one "Tiana",as in Tiana Toomes,and the one he chose "Michelle".
Mopey emo black Mary Jane? Yeah, I don't get it either lol and Gwen Stacy's like a 11 year old news anchor 😂🤣 fuck these movies suck so bad 🤮
@@forest8779 that blond girls name is betty that ain't gwen.
So much unnecessary criticism by comic book fanatics just watch the damn movie
Spider-Man is the most famous fictional non-religious character in the world. His existence, and any incarnations of him, are going to be critiqued.
Also, criticism is what separates good art from bad art.
@@theonlyronYou should also know that there's also such things as good AND bad criticism
@@Pixelated_A.I_125 I don't disagree.
@@Pixelated_A.I_125 constructive critism is needed for improvement. Critism out of spite and inexperience is one of the things that kills media.
His girlfriend wasn't black.
Really didnt like how all the tech plus his suits were handed to him by Stark, I'd rather he invented the suit himself like the other live action spider-men. I mean after you get to scrap with Thanos using a suit you didnt even make, is there any room for improvement? Tony literally brought out the best of his potential, everything we see from here on out is Peter trying to make himself as competent as he once was in those glory days when Tony was still alive, even the competence and the power levels of the villains he fights takes a drastic dive.
You are missing the main point that this Peter is young and only been spiderman for less then a year. He makes mistakes, he is naïve and Stark is like a Guardian/father figure to him. That's why he built his suit and also gave him the "Training wheels protocol" - throughout all Tom holland spiderman movies. You can see he slowly progresses his abilities and maturity. He then later makes his own suit when Tony past away, still using Tony's technology to do it. It's been made with detail to the fact he is young Spiderman.
@@BloodThirsty0666excuses.
@@BloodThirsty0666it took tomy dying for him to finally make his own suits again..
Bingo. They reinvented the entire Spider-Man story just to fit in with the avengers. In the books Stark and Peter were rivals, not friends.
One way to look at it that makes me appreciate things is how this Amateur Peter has the avengers to back him up (especially tony) where as the other spidermen didn’t. All to come into full circle by no way home finally showing us the introduction to the peter parker we know with the ending. It only made it so much bitter sweet and never have I ever sympathized with pete in a deeper level.
Favorite Spider-Man movie 🐐🔥
yea if you’re like 10
The only people who are 10 here are the ones trying to bring down others’ opinions
@@stuqxrk175 cry about it lil bro
It's not my favorite spiderman movie but the movie was actually good and after all, these are just opinions, no need to hate lol
@@peter-o5m9p okay Peter.
Bro tried to jump out and instead got brain damage 💀
5:11 at this part?
😂
I miss 2017 school vibes
Guys i didnt really watch the spiderman movies. Why did peter ditch that chick for MJ?
the main villain of this movie is her dad and by the end of the movie she moves away
She was hiv positive unfortunately
Mj was never Peter's main choice. In the comics anyway. MJ came around much later after Spiderman had been around for awhile. It's kinda of a way to show that connection.
Cuase he's gay.
@@gregorysmillie2008 that was a one-off character and his/her/? name is Web-Weaver. He/she is a Peter Parker variant on Earth-71490
Peter could have disabled Vulture's portal thingy and just trap him inside🤷🏻♂️
Vulture
I dont think he has the remote
1:47 Wait wait wait, why is she saying meters ? I know that Metric System is the superior one, and Tony Stark being a superior Inteligence would use Metric, But I AM PRETTY SURE that Despite Peters inteligence he would still be cursed with the Imperial System, So the suit would be adapted for him.
Being that he is incredibly interested and proficient in the sciences, which use the metric system, I think he would be fine.
Also, since Spider-Man is actually highly intelligent, I think he'd easily understand the Metric System. He's more intelligent than a lot of other Americans.
So you want her to say Miles?
Also Metric offers more precision than imperial
I agree on the criticism of the suit having so much tech and Stark being very involved in Peter's life. But besides that, I consider Homecoming a good Spider-Man movie. I mean, not the best, but at least decent in terms of a rookie Spidey.
Is no one gonna talk about how flash smacked peter's ass? 😭😭
Peter likes his coffee black these days
I was gonna say the same thing, Peter's definitely got a type in MCU. Nothing wrong with it, just... my man likes his caramel.
Holland cast as link in zelda live action movie
They raided the mini bar... for candy? 😂
I wish the suit wasnt that overpowered. It makes him way too reliant on it rather than on his own powers, we basically get Iron Man Junior instead of a Spider Man.
"If you're nothing without the suit, then you shouldn't have it"
Then he takes down the vulture with his own tech without the Tony suit.
In the second movie, he actually designed his own suit (albeit with stark tech)
In the third movie, he loses everything and everyone and has to start from scratch all alone. Making his own suit. (Its already been shown he developed his own web fluid in the first movie).
The home trilogy is basically training wheels + a long origin story.
This was the only movie with Karen. FFH had E.D.I.T.H. and NWH didn't have any AI voice assistant.
I liked Spiderman better without all of the suit gadgets. This is a Marvel action movie and has some good points and good acting, but it doesn't seem like a "Spiderman" movie.
He uses tech during like 30 minutes in the movie, and this was done so that he learns that he doesn't need all of these gadgets to be Spider-Man
They are already 5 movies of him without tech. Why do you want the same thing over and over again? At least this movie was actually refreshing and something different.
i liked toby maguires spider man the best.
"rebellious group activity the day before a competition is good for morale."
"I heard it in a Ted talk"
I'm sorry but do kids these day really talk like this now a days?
They never did. All these movies were subversive propaganda. Especially the mystery-meat "Mary Jane" they picked.
That particular kid does
peters such a creep, he's staring at kids swimming through windows.....tut tut tut peter
He's a kid
I don’t mind Tom hollands spiderman at all, but my least favorite part of it all is how they did flash. They turned him into some nerdy dickhead instead of the classic jock who’s always messing with poor Peter Parker. Could’ve just named him someone else and that would’ve been better
Damn, it's really crazy to see only a few years after this movie came out that we have a very similar personal assistant Spiderman had but for the masses. ChatGPT; Spiderman's assistant's distant cousin.
Don't disrespect the marvel AIs with ChatGPT bro. That shit told an old lady to put down her sick dog lol😂
This spiderman not bad but he’s all tech like he acts like he can’t survive without his gadgets
Bro did not see the movies
@ your right I read the comics
@@eyyy6736 And you hate on this Spider-Man because he used tech for like 30 minutes in one movie? Are you sure you read comics?
@@eyyy6736then don't shit on the movie. That's literally the whole point is that he's too reliant on it and has to learn to work without the tech
@ I’m just saying Toby and Andrew barely anything and they were able to take their villains. Peter needs a stark suit just to take on an old guy with wings.
This spiderman needed too much help, all the O.G. needed was..."with great power comes great responsibility". He wouldve been cooler if he mad his tech himself. Anybody would be badass with iron making there shit
help with what?
@@onenonlyethan2239 The visual tracking, the many many web options, it has a stealth mode, an assistant that gives him information on both his gadgets and his surroundings, it even calculated where Peter need to shoot his webs to stop the ship from splitting apart, and a literal kill mode that lets the suit fight FOR him. OG Peter just had his webs, his will and his debts, but that was all he needed
@@tumbleweed420hits I think that's what really interesting about the arc of these three movies. This Peter *realizes* that he doesn't need any of these things. The final result of this trilogy was him ending up exactly where OG Peter starts his own adult life.
y'all really had this convenient memory loss when peter had to fight the vulture on the plane with just his old homemade suit in the first one, or when he made his own suit to fight mysterio.
At least Liz was attractive
Call her "Tiana Toomes"
So Spider-Man. The marvel hero that can take any beating and heal. Is demobilized by the top of a trailer…… Sony did it better
It's a government trailer protecting alien technology in a world that has super-powered humans and aliens.
You have to figure that Peter's durability scales with his strength. He can jump with enough force to knock himself out.
Terrible everything
❤❤😂😂
Iron Boy Jr. This is what you get when Disney ruins Marvel
Smartest Spider-Man hater 😭
Go ahead and let the door hit you on the way out.
Look at little Iron Boy Jr. Gonna cry?
@TheEpicAB ah little Mr. Butthurt gonna cry? lmao
I'd take Iron Boy Jr over the Sonyverse nonsense anyday. At least this Spider-Man isn't the only hero in his universe. And his villains do exist because of him.
Dumbest spider man