This guy checked @00:03min into the game whether there is indeed a nexus inside the opponents base. After quick confirmation he could go on with his early game build order abusing the extractor trick vs that quick inbase nexus of the protoss player. 🤣
FUN fact my headset just broke when harstem called "he has a follow up" and it went foloolololololololololololololololol while the video went on I excepted an ingenous bait/joke from harstems site until I realised what has happened :D
They take shortcuts to "improve" but they are not really improving and just relying on others so their skills are so bad but who cares since they can see what the enemy is doing anyway and they can just counter it and win
the first 3 words mean "the korean people" and the next one means "death" and i dont know about the last one. the name is indeed very rude to koreans, and written in simplified chinese, which makes it very clear where the player is from.
@@einerheit5871 no, it doesn't make it clear at all. A lot of people use chinese as "nobody will understand that I have used google translate to write this"
@harstem I have a suggestion for blizzard that would fix hackers and a big problem with the ladder: smurfs. 1) new ranking should start from masters down, not other way around. 2) if you leave the game before five minutes you GAIN MMR, not lose it. 3) Set an inactivity timer for four minutes that forces a win for both players and increases their mmr. One might complain that we’d have a bunch of masters accounts that are nothing but leavers, yet I doubt it; theres no satisfaction to be gained. Hackers would instantly be playing people that can beat them even with their hacks. And smurfs can no longer Smurf. Cheers!
No one says that. It's just that 80% of the time someone on Reddit blames his losses on hackers, they lost to a dude who built 2 observers and had a but of game sense
@@halqthedarktemplar its like "The Boy Who Cried Wolf". just like you said, people cant even watch the replay before running fast af to reddit to cry hacker, then someone realizes there was 2 observers, eventually it is faster to just call it bs cuz a lot of time it indeed is bs, im glad that harstem actually takes a look. tbh i hate reddit; im never going back there.
I’d like to see a series where you play different players at different levels with map hacks. Would be interesting to know what the benefit of having vision is vs actually having mechanics and knowledge and what mmr benefit that translates to.
Well, in the lower leagues of Europe everyone is a maphacker, they don't use the camera, they don't use the hotkeys, they build ninja bases... Make them a tutorial. That with an EPM of 23 to 30 they make you lose. In months you don laught...
Hmm in NA smurfing is really common, so it's hard to tell when you lose to a "bad" strategy whether it's because you suck or the opponent's cheating or just a smurf whose mechanics are good enough to win with any dumb strategy.
I would say a good gaming chair, paired with good intuition. Nothing suspicious here. And the clicks in the fog - he TRAINS to where he has to click LATER, when he is attacking, so he can bind them to keys. Totally ok, in my opinion.
If it's protoss and the hacker is not a protoss then it's very hard to tell what building the protoss are warping in. This may be why the hacker doesn't "look" so much at the buildings themselves.
wait what? extractor trick is bad? it makes lava spawning more efficient and also gives you more money, allowing you to get a drone faster than waiting for overlord? what did i miss ? why is it supposed to be bad when its obviously superior. extractor trick makes a drone 9 sec faster for 6-7 mineral and without it your hatchery has 3 larva for 2 second
2:21 most off such tools need to be activated. he properly hadnt set his hacking up correctly and thats what he is adjusting, just guessing, and if he doesnt peak the rest off the time but has these odd no cam movement you know he succeeded in clicking some kind off box saying "no-detect-idiot" box :D
Harstem extractor trick isn't this horrible thing you make it out to be. It's almost the same as just not doing an extractor trick, econ-wise. Sure I don't recommend doing it but it's not a big deal. If people really want to eek out a little extra income for free, they should focus on doubling up workers on close mineral patches, I remember pros like idra ignoring this for years when I told them about it but finally people figured out it's good. But not enough people do it still.
your point being? Zerg failed the pool timing, but has done the net negative apm loss thing. It is indeed bad to waste your apm for something that isn't benefitial to you (even if it was neutral as you claim it to be, but it really isn't) what people should learn is proper builds, not the extractor trick into ovie.
Yea, I dont understand this. I saw Reynor making a 13 ovelrord and 14 drone and was floating minerals while doing it. Extractor trick means you don't float resources and can get an extra worker out.
You guys are misunderstanding what Harstem said. He is saying extractor trick into 16+ hatch is bad, not that extractor trick in general is bad. extractor trick into 15 hatch is a legitimate build, but what this player did is just hot garbage, which is what our boy Harstem is saying here.
3:45 yeah but wait. Didnt u used to be able to see warpgate being chronoboosted through fog of war back in thr day?! Did they fix that? I never tried to use it do i wouodnt know if they fixed it.or if u can still see the boost?!?! Or am i crazy?!?!?! And that was never a thing?
1:22 its done to keep a player busy. Nobody likes waiting 15 real life minutes just to get fuckin 2 rax proxied..we need action right now, so we stay busy. Sometimes we are busy in real life before thr game started... taking a drink or finishing pissing. . Come back and need an extractor trick to play catchup. Shit happens in a real man's life. Get over it. Huh?
6:48 riiiight bro. And its annoying, trust me. I dont even have an F1 hotkey anymotr bevause i use f1 for cameria hotkey 1 f2 for 2, and so on and so on.
6:55 so now harstem, u gotta re evaluate this because who hacks and then doesnt even use camera hotkeys? 😮😮😮😂😂 maybr hes always stationary when nothing is happening. Because he fuckin slow scrolls....maybe he tried camera hotkeys but was already in gsl at thr time. Maaaaaybe, hes so good at the game..... he understands it from a different perspective because hes not as skilled to press buttons as quickly as other people 😮😮😮😂😂😂 just sayin.
1:55 zerg play is the same every game. U have to wait for overlords to get vision, u have to build like 3 things total for like 4 game minutes breh. No reason to spam camera hotkeys and pres 4 s d for 5 minutes when hes probably bored of this game 20 years in dude..........
Probably the most obvious I've ever seen. Madness that this guy even made it this high up.
Apparently map hacks can carry you pretty far
Maybe he just started hacking at the high level
Harstem Hunting Hackers is some of the most enjoyable SC2 content out there
This guy checked @00:03min into the game whether there is indeed a nexus inside the opponents base. After quick confirmation he could go on with his early game build order abusing the extractor trick vs that quick inbase nexus of the protoss player. 🤣
Holy hell man, good catch.
Probably he was afraid of a bongcloud. Or perhaps didn't note what race his opponent was playing.
@@marykkuhner6571
I guess when you have full map vision at all times, there's no point to paying attention pre-game.
I don't think I've heard Harstem use the phrase "High level" without it being sarcastic.
ya dont watch enough Harstem thenn. Uses it to describe professional level matches
Honestly my favorite series
No. StarCraft Today and Who wants to be a GM are both superior.
@@manthe3711 No
@@manthe3711massive L bro, I said MY favorite series. Read next time
@@DaRealLegacy I know. You are wrong for feeling that way.
"People dont screenscroll on this level", mate, I was today years old when I found out you could add units to an existing control group
Best series ever. Harstem keeps pumping bangers after bangers
FUN fact my headset just broke when harstem called "he has a follow up" and it went foloolololololololololololololololol while the video went on I excepted an ingenous bait/joke from harstems site until I realised what has happened :D
found footage
Why there's a grown Reynor on the preview?
The guy is called "korean person extinction" or something like that in Chinese
But now they will go extinct lol
We are realizing that there are more hackers than we thought
are we not gonna comment on the insane control groups?
I'm pretty poor at SC2 but it blows my mind how bad these people are who use "hacks" its really shameful.
They take shortcuts to "improve" but they are not really improving and just relying on others so their skills are so bad but who cares since they can see what the enemy is doing anyway and they can just counter it and win
Love Harstem Hunts Hackers
The zerg's name at 17:02 is very rude and written in Simplified Chinese. It is "likely" that the player is Chinese.
the first 3 words mean "the korean people" and the next one means "death" and i dont know about the last one. the name is indeed very rude to koreans, and written in simplified chinese, which makes it very clear where the player is from.
What does his name translate to?
@@einerheit5871 no, it doesn't make it clear at all. A lot of people use chinese as "nobody will understand that I have used google translate to write this"
@@einerheit5871 The last character means "completely". And the 4th one can be used as a verb.
That is so blatant it's almost like a put on production just for you
@harstem I have a suggestion for blizzard that would fix hackers and a big problem with the ladder: smurfs. 1) new ranking should start from masters down, not other way around. 2) if you leave the game before five minutes you GAIN MMR, not lose it. 3) Set an inactivity timer for four minutes that forces a win for both players and increases their mmr.
One might complain that we’d have a bunch of masters accounts that are nothing but leavers, yet I doubt it; theres no satisfaction to be gained.
Hackers would instantly be playing people that can beat them even with their hacks. And smurfs can no longer Smurf. Cheers!
14:40 Casually floating 2k/1k in masters...
This hacker's user name is also extremely offensive. It's 'Extinction for all Koreans' in Chinese.
A superhacker spottedy by a supercaptain.
I have to say... I think they might be hacking.
Meanwhile on reddit and bnet forums "Hackers dont exist!" lol.
Said the hackers!
No one says that. It's just that 80% of the time someone on Reddit blames his losses on hackers, they lost to a dude who built 2 observers and had a but of game sense
@@halqthedarktemplar its like "The Boy Who Cried Wolf". just like you said, people cant even watch the replay before running fast af to reddit to cry hacker, then someone realizes there was 2 observers, eventually it is faster to just call it bs cuz a lot of time it indeed is bs, im glad that harstem actually takes a look. tbh i hate reddit; im never going back there.
Harstem should also give some advice to the good guys as well. 😢
HHH Lets go!
I’d like to see a series where you play different players at different levels with map hacks. Would be interesting to know what the benefit of having vision is vs actually having mechanics and knowledge and what mmr benefit that translates to.
beating gm with stupid stuff: zerg but no control groups or camera hotkeys allowed (not even select all army or hatcheries control group) xD
Now I know what not to do if I play ZvP. Educational experience indeed!
He is not moving his camera because hes googling what build can counter what, its too hard for him to remember.
Well, in the lower leagues of Europe everyone is a maphacker, they don't use the camera, they don't use the hotkeys, they build ninja bases...
Make them a tutorial. That with an EPM of 23 to 30 they make you lose.
In months you don laught...
Hmm in NA smurfing is really common, so it's hard to tell when you lose to a "bad" strategy whether it's because you suck or the opponent's cheating or just a smurf whose mechanics are good enough to win with any dumb strategy.
I would say a good gaming chair, paired with good intuition. Nothing suspicious here. And the clicks in the fog - he TRAINS to where he has to click LATER, when he is attacking, so he can bind them to keys. Totally ok, in my opinion.
What's the deal with all the hatcheries being in 8 different control groups?? It looks like he just F2's all units the entire game.
If it's protoss and the hacker is not a protoss then it's very hard to tell what building the protoss are warping in. This may be why the hacker doesn't "look" so much at the buildings themselves.
Nah bruh. Thats not it.
i mean unless they chrono an stalker asap the overlord can see everything, even the lack of things means something; a proxy.
3:00 😂😂😂 oh shit.... wait... wtf? 😂😮😮
What stops banned hackers from making a new account since the game is f2p
If i was a Maphacker would be cannon rushing every game or some kind of cheese i think is the best way to hide it
Then you wouldn't make it much farther than without hacks, so there is no point.
@@mothrahlurker788 hacking is pointless and you achieve nothing doesnt matter what you do
We up to at least 53. Merca
I think is the first time I see a zerg hacker. What's his main?
It's 50 states
Was it imba?
The thumbnail kinda looks like reynor😂 just saying
this was funny sad to watch
there are, in fact, 50 states in the US. As there have been since 1959 when the US conquered Hawaii and made it a state, So your whole life.
I don’t know how many states/provinces/governmental regions there are in the Netherlands, do you?
@miza6 lol. Cmon now. Everyone is supposed to know about the US.
@@davidd6660 We are supposed to know?
@@davidd6660 lol, no.
wait what? extractor trick is bad? it makes lava spawning more efficient and also gives you more money, allowing you to get a drone faster than waiting for overlord? what did i miss ? why is it supposed to be bad when its obviously superior. extractor trick makes a drone 9 sec faster for 6-7 mineral and without it your hatchery has 3 larva for 2 second
This has all been mapped out, yes it is worse and benchmarks confirm it.
@@mothrahlurker788 do you have a link? i cant find anything relevant
2:21 most off such tools need to be activated. he properly hadnt set his hacking up correctly and thats what he is adjusting, just guessing, and if he doesnt peak the rest off the time but has these odd no cam movement you know he succeeded in clicking some kind off box saying "no-detect-idiot" box :D
could be tapped out to check built as well or just that slow in the start. :P
as far as I remember you had to lock camera with hotkey, so maybe he forgets to click it
Harstem extractor trick isn't this horrible thing you make it out to be. It's almost the same as just not doing an extractor trick, econ-wise. Sure I don't recommend doing it but it's not a big deal.
If people really want to eek out a little extra income for free, they should focus on doubling up workers on close mineral patches, I remember pros like idra ignoring this for years when I told them about it but finally people figured out it's good. But not enough people do it still.
idra knew all the best tricks, it probably wasn't worth it for him to get 5extra minerals
your point being? Zerg failed the pool timing, but has done the net negative apm loss thing.
It is indeed bad to waste your apm for something that isn't benefitial to you (even if it was neutral as you claim it to be, but it really isn't)
what people should learn is proper builds, not the extractor trick into ovie.
Yea, I dont understand this. I saw Reynor making a 13 ovelrord and 14 drone and was floating minerals while doing it. Extractor trick means you don't float resources and can get an extra worker out.
You guys are misunderstanding what Harstem said. He is saying extractor trick into 16+ hatch is bad, not that extractor trick in general is bad. extractor trick into 15 hatch is a legitimate build, but what this player did is just hot garbage, which is what our boy Harstem is saying here.
By "finally figured out" you mean 14 years ago?
3:45 yeah but wait. Didnt u used to be able to see warpgate being chronoboosted through fog of war back in thr day?! Did they fix that? I never tried to use it do i wouodnt know if they fixed it.or if u can still see the boost?!?!
Or am i crazy?!?!?! And that was never a thing?
1:22 its done to keep a player busy. Nobody likes waiting 15 real life minutes just to get fuckin 2 rax proxied..we need action right now, so we stay busy. Sometimes we are busy in real life before thr game started... taking a drink or finishing pissing. . Come back and need an extractor trick to play catchup. Shit happens in a real man's life. Get over it. Huh?
6:48 riiiight bro. And its annoying, trust me. I dont even have an F1 hotkey anymotr bevause i use f1 for cameria hotkey 1 f2 for 2, and so on and so on.
6:55 so now harstem, u gotta re evaluate this because who hacks and then doesnt even use camera hotkeys? 😮😮😮😂😂 maybr hes always stationary when nothing is happening. Because he fuckin slow scrolls....maybe he tried camera hotkeys but was already in gsl at thr time. Maaaaaybe, hes so good at the game..... he understands it from a different perspective because hes not as skilled to press buttons as quickly as other people 😮😮😮😂😂😂 just sayin.
1:55 zerg play is the same every game. U have to wait for overlords to get vision, u have to build like 3 things total for like 4 game minutes breh. No reason to spam camera hotkeys and pres 4 s d for 5 minutes when hes probably bored of this game 20 years in dude..........