Paper vs. Mesh Drywall Tape | pros and cons, for finishing & mudding

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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024

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  • @A.for.Avery97
    @A.for.Avery97 8 месяцев назад +17

    Mesh for flats, paper for corners. Use a hot mud for first coat over mesh. Happy taping 😊

  • @user-zx4vj6ub8r
    @user-zx4vj6ub8r Год назад +36

    Used to be an apprentice for a custom residential sheetrocker. We installed and finished the sheetrock multimillion dollar homes. On the side, we would also do remodels and repairs. Mesh tape always comes back after a few years. It does not bind to the drywall. I have only known one lady who used it, but she applied several extra strange steps to make it bond. I recall it also involved 5-10 minute mud.
    If you are doing an at-home repair and need something easy but not forever pretty, sure. Go with the fiber mesh.
    If you are a professional wanting to provide the best quality repairs for your customer, and patches that won't come back... I highly recommend fibafuse. It was originally designed to tape paperless drywall, however they found it works extremely well on regular sheetrock also. It's not sticky, but with the mud it permanently bonds to the sheetrock. I know a lot of finishers who swear by it even on those monster 4,000-8,000 square foot houses.

    • @inkstain7193
      @inkstain7193 9 месяцев назад +3

      The mesh tape doesn’t pop off like paper tape does. Or air bubbles. Paper doesn’t bind to the drywall either. The both “bind” to the mud.

    • @hiimtheguy1606
      @hiimtheguy1606 3 месяца назад +3

      Yeah I use the mesh all the time, starting to switch over to the fiber tape because it's thinner, I haven't had any problems with it. You just have to make sure you're pushing the mud into the tape, I'd also throw a bit of mud between the drywall sheets before the mesh to completely encapsulate the tape. Now I've have issues not sanding enough or too much and not seeing it until after paint, that was my fault. It's alot less common now for me now I'm getting used to it.

    • @DvstyDom
      @DvstyDom 3 месяца назад

      @@hiimtheguy1606you might as well use paper at that point if you’re missing before and after the tape lol

    • @turboflush
      @turboflush 2 месяца назад

      Mesh is crap. The strands are not bonded to each other and allow them to pull from the mud.
      Found this when I was removing a section with mesh tape. It just doesn't bond. Paper tape though.. is bonded if done correct.
      Fiba fuse is a way better choice.

  • @jayrockcooksgot64
    @jayrockcooksgot64 7 месяцев назад +4

    You need to use the easy sand powder mix when you tape with the mesh or it will definitely crack

  • @Gog3453
    @Gog3453 7 месяцев назад +5

    Nothing beats mesh🤘

  • @Gollammeister
    @Gollammeister 8 месяцев назад +3

    Nice clear explanations

  • @andrexadoh
    @andrexadoh 8 месяцев назад +3

    Mesh tape is good for quick patch jobs but paper is the professionals choics for regular jobs. I am DIY'er and always used paper because I prefer the feel and how it blends i to the wall so well

  • @alonzomartii
    @alonzomartii 11 месяцев назад +7

    Use fibafuse with all porpuse with plaster for small repairs. And paper for estire wall or rooms

  • @scottmacintyre45
    @scottmacintyre45 Месяц назад +1

    Overlaying mess in corners is perfect for preventing cracks due to movement.

  • @hollycannon7037
    @hollycannon7037 Год назад +28

    I never (seen)had mesh tape pull away because not enough mud behind it, I have seen it with paper tape.

    • @28reta
      @28reta 8 месяцев назад +1

      Yea but you will get cracks eventually unless you know how to use it

  • @GradedStakesTrading-hi4sw
    @GradedStakesTrading-hi4sw Год назад +4

    Mesh. The self stick and 1 less step is a game changer for me!!

    • @gytisdramblewolfskis8521
      @gytisdramblewolfskis8521 2 месяца назад +1

      Using the stick feature is what makes 90% of plastererers think mesh doesn't work.
      Use it like the paper one - first put on the plaster then put in the mesh tape.
      This is a little stronger and you don't have the problem of tape peeling of next day from airbubles

  • @myway3343
    @myway3343 10 месяцев назад +12

    I have finished drywall for 20+ years. I always and only use mesh tape. I find it easier to use and have never had a failure. Works Great in corners too >>>

    • @Danz11115
      @Danz11115 10 месяцев назад +4

      I used paper tape and never had cracks, decided to try mesh for the first time and now there’s cracks everywhere. Never again.

    • @1malwaysup
      @1malwaysup 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@Danz11115it’s because you used regular mud. Should definitely use a 5 minute or 45 minute mud to base coat and than you can finish it with regular

    • @MyDixieNormis
      @MyDixieNormis 2 месяца назад

      Never used it in corners lol that sounds weird but I always have used it for flats

    • @romozz1694
      @romozz1694 Месяц назад

      @@Danz11115because you used bucket compound. Mesh tape has to be bedded in with quick set or it will crack

  • @notanotherguitarchannel
    @notanotherguitarchannel Год назад +1

    For diy patching a hole mesh is easiest but harder to get a perfect smooth finish. The guys who repaired my arch for an insurance job used mesh tape around the external and it looks terrible. I find it takes longer to top mesh in a way that doesn't leave the bumpy surface.

  • @MrAlittle5150
    @MrAlittle5150 8 месяцев назад

    I watch a guy doing a commercial building and on the joints he stapled the mesh
    tape to the the dry wall and then mudded over it.

  • @reverendjimspanner
    @reverendjimspanner Месяц назад

    Personally I have always used paper. I have considered using mesh tape but not sure if it's a good idea 🤔

  • @PatL77
    @PatL77 3 месяца назад

    PRE FILL all joints. Then mesh on butts, paper on bevels and inside corners, metal bead for outside corners. That’s the method I’ve been taught. Not saying it’s right or wrong don’t care about other opinions.
    My question is, does anyone use metal bead on inside corners? If so, why? I always think about doing this when I have to tape a full room with closets and window returns and funky angels etc…

  • @1malwaysup
    @1malwaysup 10 месяцев назад +1

    Mesh tape should only be used with hot mud and paper should only be used with regular mud. They both have their uses and work perfectly if you know when to apply them

  • @PaxR-r2s
    @PaxR-r2s 10 месяцев назад +3

    Oooo I know, I know. Mesh should never be used on a ceiling. This is a well know bit of information. Though, your video does not state that.

  • @stevenmcclure2797
    @stevenmcclure2797 8 месяцев назад +9

    Paper tape is definitely stronger. Mesh tape should only be used on patch jobs.

    • @StrongEye
      @StrongEye 6 месяцев назад +1

      Use mesh with fast setting mud only

  • @meepee84
    @meepee84 2 месяца назад

    Make aure to use a “hot mud” with the mesh tape

  • @Drywallfinishingtips
    @Drywallfinishingtips 8 месяцев назад +2

    It’s better the tape ❤

  • @MyDixieNormis
    @MyDixieNormis 2 месяца назад +1

    Mesh tape all the way for flats, much faster and more efficient. Also less likely to bubble/blister

  • @philiparmand3534
    @philiparmand3534 25 дней назад

    Mesh tape is only to be used with hot mud, otherwise certain failure will ensue.

  • @johndavid3474
    @johndavid3474 7 дней назад

    Used both. Mesh doesn’t compare - it’s flimsy and can disintegrate when sanding too much.

  • @lindamoser2532
    @lindamoser2532 4 месяца назад +1

    Always use mesh with hot mud only

  • @anngordon7487
    @anngordon7487 8 месяцев назад

    But when do you use each?

    • @mikesuriano958
      @mikesuriano958 5 месяцев назад

      Paper tape for the Inside corners. Mesh on the Flat and butt joint. When you use mesh, you have to use 20 minute and it 90 minute.Whichever it just has to be hot mud

    • @18legend19
      @18legend19 5 месяцев назад

      Paper tape works for every application flats/butt/corners Mesh on the other hand does not work for corners since it doesn’t have the crease in the middle like paper/ mesh , is also great for patching drywall holes.

  • @elvinebovine1297
    @elvinebovine1297 8 месяцев назад +1

    There’s a chemical process that causes the mesh to lift from the wall as the compound hardens. You have to use specific mud for mesh. Most all purpose mixes will only work on paper tape.

  • @SayHiIzzy
    @SayHiIzzy 4 месяца назад +1

    Why dont they make sticky paper tape?

    • @gytisdramblewolfskis8521
      @gytisdramblewolfskis8521 2 месяца назад +1

      Well the glue is the reason so many people complain about mesh tape - it cracks if the tape is not submerged in mud on all sides. Which is why you should not use the glue feature of the mesh tape as well.

  • @jeffpulk9692
    @jeffpulk9692 Год назад +3

    Mesh tape is also garbage it cracks after a few years and it tends to lift if you try to use alot of mud

  • @lifeinspirationstatus871
    @lifeinspirationstatus871 Год назад

    Same work 😊

  • @stuarthay1
    @stuarthay1 27 дней назад

    Mud? Do I get that in screwfix? 🤦

  • @Destroyer-s2e
    @Destroyer-s2e 9 месяцев назад

    I find it difficult using paper one. Then again im a beginner.

    • @welcome_idahome
      @welcome_idahome  9 месяцев назад

      It for sure has more steps than the mesh tape.

    • @shotparrot
      @shotparrot 3 месяца назад +1

      Spray it with water first. Eliminates bubbles. Mostly.

  • @tonyflick5542
    @tonyflick5542 4 месяца назад +1

    Fiba fuse ppl 🤙🤙🤙

  • @loreec90
    @loreec90 6 месяцев назад

    Mesh tape is only rated to be used with hotmud….

  • @jessemorris69
    @jessemorris69 11 месяцев назад

    Mesh tape works fine in corners just saying

    • @inkstain7193
      @inkstain7193 9 месяцев назад

      Not like paper tape. Won’t crease for a perfect 90’.

    • @welcome_idahome
      @welcome_idahome  9 месяцев назад

      Good to know thanks!

  • @Infamousjr719
    @Infamousjr719 2 месяца назад

    Paper is the only way. Mesh has no structural integrity.

  • @fathan16
    @fathan16 Месяц назад

    Never use mesh tape. It's junk.

  • @adriankempinski4691
    @adriankempinski4691 5 месяцев назад

    Knauf fibreglass :-)

  • @Glock42L
    @Glock42L 7 месяцев назад +2

    Woman, opinion disregarded

  • @Deputy_doggg
    @Deputy_doggg 3 месяца назад

    Its called skrim love