Back in 1988 I took out a loan for 1 million on a large piece of property of 4100 acres with the intention of subdividing it, but before the ink was dry a natural gas company came knocking wanting to buy the mineral rights. Instead of selling I allowed them to drill with the agreement I wanted royalties. So now I am drawing about $25,000 a mouth off of 8 wells. I never broke it up and it is paid for now, and I still own the mineral rights. I also have about 300 acres of good hay field that I make about $30,000 a year off. We built a big house have few cattle and a large garden that our Church Family share in. One my own I built a lake of about 60 acres. I also have a grass airstrip. Behind the lake I put a hydroelectric plant so now I have power for the whole farm. 3 houses 2 barns & a big shop / airplane hanger. + free natural gas. And people say I am crazy at 68 years of age.
Nancy Smith just like Buying a house; the land was my collateral. NO drugs, NO alcohol; this body is a Temple. I do pray a lot! I made a promise to God if he would bless me I would tithe 25% !
God isn't going to give you a loan for a million. This guy had to have put up something of great wealth or has great wealth before a bank would ever consider a loan of that size. This load of shit has made me feel dumb for ever reading the comments congrats.
My dad bought a 72 acre farm in 1965 and moved all of us to it. It had a trout stream and a 200 year old worker's quarters that was seasonally used during planting, weeding and harvest season by traveling bands of farm workers. Dad took it down. It was 3 times the size of our 13 room farmhouse. He sold the wood and paid off 1/4 of the mortgage. Dad timbered out a few pieces toward the back and put us at only owing half. We started a fruit and vegetable stand. My oldest brother raised cows for meat and milk. We had a block henhouse for eggs. My dad built a locust wood pole chicken coop for meat birds. I kept a small freezer full of trout. Another brother shot deer in season. I shot squirrels and rabbits. You can get somewhere if you "extract the gold." A gas pipeline company had to pay dad to allow 3/4 miles of 4 gas pipes to run underground from corner to corner on our property, underneath our potato and hay fields. Dad was an engineer and an inventor so things were very interesting on the farm. I'll never change those experiences for anything.
@@chrischoir3594 You can probably get a 2 acre parcel for $2,000 in Ocean View Estates Subdivision but it will be what I used to call a "low maintenance lot." Meaning that it is mostly volcanic rubble or maybe pahoehoe with no power or water at around 5,000 feet in elevation and in lava hazard zone 1 or 2.
Well, I want to share my success story and thank you. I have been looking for a place to buy for roughly 2 years. I just couldn't believe how high the prices were. Long story short, I found this video in October of 2020 and started looking for land via online plat books. I spent so many hours looking and looking. I made sure the owner address was always different than the property address, no marshland, swamps, etc. Sent 21 letters, called once, got 4 responses. I never even went to most of these places, since they were 3 to 6 hours away, just looked on google maps as good as I could and the plat book aerial photography. I just bought a piece of land last weekend that had a well, septic, nice garage and a run down trailer house 20K below market value and about 40K cheaper than similar properties in the area for sale. I am so happy you made this video, I would of never thought to look for land this way! THANK YOU!
Don't know why I am following you because I am 74 & just wish I could put a basic tiny house on 1 acre or less. Most places won't allow them. It is so interesting that I guess I am living vicariously through you. Great info!
The way I understand it is, if you lay concrete slabs on the property most jurisdictions will charge you property taxes BUT if you build sort of a cabin on concrete piers (you know you dump concrete on those carboard tubes that work as molds) and build the cabin "floating" on those concrete posts, them they can't charge you; for instance I know that in Minnesota it works that way but is not the only one.
that would be nice to have, but in a lot of places, you aren't going to get that. I've owned several properties in CO, and I don't think I had mineral rights on any of them except maybe one.
@@BrianKrahmer So then with most Sellers in CO (or western states), selling private rural land, is it fair to say, that THE SELLER usually (owns the mineral rights)...or likely instead, that Seller (when they bought it) also did not/could not acquire the mineral rights...therefore the Seller doesn't have the ability to transfer the mineral rights to you, even if Seller agreed to or wanted to?
those little "farmettes" can save you a bundle if you use the land for some "money crop"....qualify you as farmers...check out your county land use laws as for farmettes..
I'm obviously late in posting, but I bought my land (52 acres in September 1998). New England, with a 2 hour commute from my home or work, and friends in the area. You have many good points in this video! The wooded area had already been timbered recently (selectively), and I've maintained the logging trail. I did use a realtor but she never walked any property with me... she sent me listings and I drove there and investigated on my own. It turns out that I bought the second property she sent me to, although I kept looking because I wanted a smaller lot. I kept coming back... there is a field on it that is about 8 acres, so I wouldn't need to do clear cut. The previous owners had it tractor mowed once a year. It was actually a border around an old apple orchard, and a house had burned down there in the 1930's (only a pile of stones remained) It took me longer to get around to build than I had wanted (in the few years before I did, I was contacted by several potential buyers who DID see this undeveloped property listed on line, however they looked... and they were willing to pay, but I wanted my dream here). I'm here, and now raising chickens. Look for access, a southern exposure (if you are north), water in the region, accessibility during Mud Season, and zoning regs. And keep in mind what you want to do: for me, chickens for eggs and meat, future sheep and/or goats, maple syrup, and so forth. How will you winter, how will you live, built a house (or convert a structure you don't have to tear down).
My wife and I have been talking about doing this for years. This video has inspired us to get organized, start serious saving, and begin property hunting here in Missouri. Thank you for making this video.
I've watched dozens of videos on this topic, and this one is by far the best I've seen yet. Thank you for the information. So many excellent points. I've spent too much time focused on a more traditional route of buying home/finding land which has been VERY discouraging. Definitely avoiding a realtor. My husband and I don't have a huge income so we're going to have to think out of the box to be able to afford it. Your tips were very helpful! After listening to all of this, I feel like it's possible. Hard work. But definitely possible. Thank y'all!
@@happytrails3 Two that we tracked down the owners, each are 3 acres lots with roads cut into the mountains, underground electric, septics, one has a well and the other community water meter to the property. Both have Colorado mountain views. One we will build on spec and sell, the other we plan on building our retirement house. Each were bought for $20,000. One is worth $60,000 and the other $80,000 4 years later.
@@redone823 Twice in the past five years The note was just a sticky not so I was straight to the point. Something like " I am interested in purchasing a property that I believe you currently own. If you are interested I have a cash offer we can discuss. Respectfully, Tim..." Privacy is highly valued and many can be offended even when the information is public record. County records now have a GIS map that you can use to find the Owners name and address. MLS# 903821 is one such property I offered $20,000 and now recently listed. I featured it in this video as I prepared it for sale. ruclips.net/video/YNmwRcQzF_o/видео.html
Thank you guys! Awesome story I was sure it is possible to buy cheap and not pay the absolutely ridiculous property prices of today and this made it clear that it is.
Huge shout out to you two. A measured, sane, intelligent approach to "homesteading", as it were. Appreciate how much emphasis you place on being resourceful and flexible when approaching the endeavor.
There is land like this all over Tennessee. Unfortunately most of it is very remote or straight up the side of a mountain. It sure is beautiful though. Good for you and may God continue to bless you!
I appreciate your mindset about how to get your timber cut and make money at the same time. Too many people want to take everything from the property and make it bare. Again, thank you very much for being a good steward of what you have been able to get control of.
Yes, please! One of the questions I'd like to know is where to start? Where does a land owner find timber brokers? How should they be vetted for fairness and honesty?
Great video. I was going to recommend that you mention the timber brokers name since you seem to have had a really good experience. Depending on his range, sounds like he deserves some more business.
Peter Sedesse sure thing. His website is wvlandgroup.com. I will get him on video as soon as he slows down. He has been very busy this year. Thanks for watching!
Red Tool House - Homestead ...Thank-you for your advice. My elderly mother lives on land with timber and struggles to make ends meet. I don't know why we never thought about it before but your timber broker idea set off the light bulb.! God bless!
@@lukeryuzaki2328 County records are free and public. meaning you can look on an abandoned lot (an old building that's clearly vacant and then search public records for who the owner is and mail them an offer, of course, if you see cars or people its not abandoned or vacant)
@@lukeryuzaki2328 with caution and maybe a highly visible vest so you don't seem to be sneaking. Bright day, bright shirt, most people aren't going to assume you're there for no good. At night, dark clothes? Yeah nice try down south 🤣🤣
Have you considered planting high value trees like black walnut? I've heard people refer to black walnut as like planting a 401k. Also if you plant a whole grove of it, you can eventually start selling the nuts.
Zakaria that was because the old sick man hand none to look after his property, otherwise would not have sold his property for that less a price. he would himself knew the price of his timber in addition to his property.
Very good tip, Timbering .. We're about 3 years away from being able to afford -something-, doing herb and spice farming on a small lot to get there, with the intent of running an orchard eventually. One of the technical issues was all of the clearing that would need to be done in order to put in the trees that we want, and that sounds like a good way to get it done, and get some capital for infrastructure at the same time!
the sound of peepers in the background! one of my favorite sounds of appalachia. i’m in north central wv looking for my first homestead. this information is priceless! thank y’all so much.
As a young lad in Alabama this is my dream, but I am single and I work 24/7 and with all the bills I have and where I rent I just cannot get ahead. Whether it’s my vehicle messing up or something else. I just don’t see how people are able to save so much money. I guess most of these people had parents that were able to afford college. Not me unfortunately, life is tough. I guess just keep on keeping on. Congrats on the people who are able to achieve their dreams and experience success.
Great story. I live in Lebanon pa and am looking at homesteading west virginia. A few factors that drew me in were 1low property values means cheaper upfront buy 2low property tax rate resulting in lower yearly taxes compared to my current house with no land 3country freedom. I got a fine for a campfire because I used paper to start the fire. 4being self sufficient and following my dream to farm and homestead. A dream is meaningless if you never work at accomplishing it. Save up some money be smart and patient and start working at what you can now and it will pay off in the long run.
One thing I learned the hard way is be careful who you get to check out your land. I had a man from the soil and water come to check a pond and the next day I was outbid the original selling price. I t happened on my next property when I had a local guy come check the septic and had to pay an additional 8 thousand for the property. He had offered more money and I had to pay it if I wanted it. Just be aware.
abandoned in 2000 ! you've both come a long way to resurrect this homestead...Jeff at BobbleHead Farm had the same long journey; low money for a piece of property with potential if someone is willing to put in the sweat equity. Nicely done !
My husband and I thank you so much for this. We are fixing to move, hopefully to wv from MD to homestead in the spring and you guys have mentioned a couple of things that we didn't know enough about. You guys rule. Definitely subscribing. Please, keep these videos coming. Brilliant!
Very informative, good information. Thank you so much for taking your time to try to help someone other than yourself, while simultaneously educating people in a non-invasive manner about land conservation and renewable resources.
Thank you for the video. It's very enlightening. As the old saying goes "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink". A lot of negative comments on here.
This is awesome! Glad to have you guys, belated welcome to our state! I was born and raised here in Logan Co. I'm in search just as you guys were and stumbled across this video. Thanks for sharing the info!
We bought our current 40 acre farm just for the price of the house. Then we did a ton of work on cleaning up and fencing. If you aren't afraid of work you can get a bargain and then sell it for triple what you paid. We've done it and if I was younger I'd do it full time. I sold over $6000 worth of scrap from our previous place.
Totally in agreement with the timber broker advice. As for land, check with the local town and the State DES to determine if there are REAL problems like MTBE or industrial waste or even spilled diesel like you may find with the shade tree mechanics dumping car fluids in the crik. Some of these vacant lots have more issues than you want to inherit. The legal responsibility for curing the ills lies with the landowner. You definitely do not want to be paying the carrying costs for a brownfield you can't afford to remediate.
It would be perfect living out somewhere like that no neighbors or people from that bough snooping around on your I live in a town that people from The bough Snoop around all the time and nitpick I want my nearest neighbor to be a mile or two away.
i was up into Mi from ohio drove by a place looked at it and told the lord tht it would be nice to live here. not a year later we owned that land! 10.08 acres nice small pole barn double wide on a poured foundation. $45 thousand! Yes it needed a lot of work too!
Man you guys are killing it. I follow a lot of homestead channals and the information here and how its presented is amazing. Gotta watch the rest of your vids
thanks for the info i just purchased 5.5 acres in boone ky and has trash on it for 42k in the process of cleaning it up now there is 5 acres at the end of the same row for 106k . thanks to trash and a worn out home i got the land cheap
In 1970 my dad bought a piece of property very similar to yours (except on the Ohio side of the river). He had it timbered in 1972, and, today, 45 years later, well into his 70s he STILL maintains the roads left by the loggers, and keeps them open. He always called them "Fire Roads" because if there's ever a forest fire, firefighters may need them to gain access. Something to think about...
Chris D absolutely! I keep all of my timber roads open. I was cutting down trees across one today. A lot of work but definitely makes the property more accessible.
that how I got my land, only I got more for the timber then I paid for the land, I was 19 at the time and I had worked in the bush my self for 3 years already so I knew how it had to be done, I had to cut about 70% of it as a few years before I bought it we had a huge wipe out of the spruce trees, thousands of sq mile were hit by the spruce bud worm, and there was only so much time to cut it before it would have been in-marketable, and they were huge spruce, all the jack pine were saved, I re-planted 5080 seedling supplied by our MNR. TO DAY AT 55 ITS LIKE IT WAS NEVER CUT, I did bring in a D8 dozer to clear the stumps into one big valley to make more flat land, and made live stock fields, but it is still way over run by dear, I have many taken out every year but has not made a dent in them, garden been hard to save, there was nothing on this land but 1 old truck and thick bush
yes I have, and I have paid my dues, every chicken turkey, pig, calf, cow, that has died on me in my early years I sent off to the Gulf university to find out why it died, and it was always feed, I mix my own for what I do use, most is all compost, brush wet valleys, that just never stop regrown, tons of store rejects, most of my feed is over our long cold -50 winter with 7 feet of snow, don't pay to heat any barns, I make sure there's number in each one to self heat and keep all my auto waters going, you see I fell 18 feet to the frozen swamp in -40 weather at 11pm 50 miles from camp were I worked as a welder in the bush camp, so I had to make everything automatic, so to be as little work as posable, pigs an chicken take care of all the garden work to get it ready for the next year,, all the new bush is full of feed growing
When selling timber, check into all the ramifications. In parts of New England, the timber tax is so high, that it eats a huge percentage of the sale of the timber. Added to your personal income tax liability... it could bring very little in the end. In those areas, finding someone with a portable saw mill who can come to your property and produce rough sawn lumber from your logs is well worth looking into. Remember, the shavings, sawdust, and chipped slash are all valuable resources on a farm or homestead, as well.
Good advice! When we sold our timber in 2000 we did get bumped into a higher tax bracket but there were other write-offs we had that helped. We do also have a portable mill we use for our barn and other projects. We have several videos documenting the use of it. thanks for watching!
If you need to know who owns a lot its always a great idea to check the county tax assessor. They usually have a website now days, and if not you can go to the office in person and they'll help you out. It'll take some paper sorting but you should be able to find any permits it had and stuff like that.
I shouldn't tell my method of finding property, but I will. The first place I bought, I put up a letter size page telling what I was looking for, who I was and where I was from, plus what I wanted to do with it. I go to Seed & Feed and Hardware stores and ask if I can put up my add, they always want to know what it is? So I hand them one, they may know a place or someone? I put on there no real estate Co's or agents and pretty doesn't add $ to the price, but it doesn't hurt either. Dirt sells for X, timber value on top and we can talk about what else it might have. Small towns all have hardware, seed & feeds, that's where the older fellows that grew up, live and love their property hang out, or at least go on Sat AM. I ask when o get a call if anyone else is looking, if so when, I make my appt. before the others. I bought the 175 acre place with a home, barn, 2 good creeks & a 5 acre lake and it's all fenced. 1/2 wooded & the other 1/2 is improved pasture which at one time was planted crops, paid $150K. While I was talking it over with my wife, the next appt was riding around, when he came back, he went for his check book, I had already beat him to it, timing is everything! We've put 300+ fruit & nut trees in some of the open areas and planted pines in other. Left some open as well. We bought 330 acres the same way. We used some of the timber on the bigger track to pay it off, built an 11 acre lake and a large mtl bldg, ran power and had a well drilled. But now we're wanting to consolidate, sell the 2 tracks(505 acres)and our home(3 separate places is tough)take the $ and put it into 1 place. Then I start thinking about ALL the stuff that will need to be moved? 1 thing to think about too, up keep! Road system alone can be a lot of work, keeping grass cut in the roads, limbs trimmed back, it goes on & on. It takes me 8 hrs to mow the roads on the 175 acre track and that's with a 8' bushhog on a 80 HP tractor. It still takes work even with $100K worth of equip. With out a lot of work, nature will reclaim your land in a hurry. You've got to love it or you'll hate it.
Great ideas and great advice. My ex-wife and I had a plan to find a piece of land like that back in the 90's. We went out driving around different areas and found a few decent places, but it never worked out. I am now in the situation that I am about to have the finances and will be moving 2 hours away to Indiana and I have been thinking about doing this. I already have a place to live when I get there, but there won't be enough room for all the other things I do, so I want to find a place to set up a nice size shop and music studio. Eventually, I would like to build my house there too. I have other ideas for the land as well, if the neighbors and zoning laws permit.
Excellent video on acquiring g land for homesteading. We recently started our homestead in our backyard, and a quarter of a block of van at lots. Thank you for sharing and keep up the great work.
Come to Texas! I use to build and still dabble so I know what I'm talking about on building. I did raw land building in Texas as a GC with no formal training. You can wheel and deal and it's all about what land is worth. Owners parcel off and sell here all the time and it's a free for all what you can get. The one thing about land is if it's CAD says it's $5000 then it's worth $5000 but every payment is an actual asset. You pay $3000 of that $5k and you have 3k equity. Say you wanted to build a home but no real down payment. You could finance land and once you've built equity enough use land as down payment. We call this Land/Home here and you can get an FHA loan. We value land as Texans because we know it's worth and the value can't be messed with so a TANGIBLE ASSET unlike the Petrol dollar. You don't need to do a lot of research, you just need to know what to research and what not to miss. The GC(Me) is the one who does all this but he's also why you pay $75 and up a sqft opposed to $35 and up. How long is takes is how long he's charging $60 hr. When you learn the basics of building which are FOUNDATION, FLOOR, 4 WALLS AND A ROOF. Trust me it's not complicated, SUBCONTRACTORS do the work. You pay yourself $60 hr and do the legwork like anything else in life. The benefit is $$$ saved and having control over product pricing so RESEARCH. That's why you're paying yourself $60 an hour so no whining, Geter Dun! YES YOU CAN PULL YOUR OWN PERMITS, your state and building codes determine. Raw land works like anything else but less restrictions depending on State and the government is your HOA. Utilities are what decide building codes but there's ways around things and loopholes. Water, power and plumbing, internet can be figured out too depending.
In a few years I might have a small 400 acre job for you. Basically, setting up a cattle pond, steer gates and a corral. I'll focus on building the house and barn. What's your opinion on well water in Lubbock vs New Braunfels? I think the Edwards Aquifer might be more reliable. Plus, later on a small hangar and airstrip for a Pipistrel Panthera.
Overall good advice. My wife and I purchased our property in 1979, 13 acres in southern NH. We had pretty much despaired finding something we could afford. We were at a friends house and they mentioned one of the neighbors was interesting in selling. They had bought the property to build a house but had a change of heart. Not as bad as your site but in typical New England fashion the back acreage was used to dump trash and the property had as small sand pit operation. We cleaned it up and lived in a mobile home for a couple of years until we built our house. Been there ever since. Lessons we have learned: 1) Try to have the seller set the price. In our case when we met the seller we know the asking price and figured there was some negotiating room and had a lower price we were going to offer. The seller said he would not sell for less then $x, somewhat below what we were willing to offer. We promptly accepted his price. 2) Be sure the property is surveyed and has a clear title. Here in New England property boundaries, unless recently been surveyed, can be a but vague. 3) I don't know about other states, New Hampshire has Current Use taxation designed to help maintain open spaces. You need at least 10 acres that are not developed to qualify. In that case property is taxed as its productive value not the speculative sale value. Current Use is a huge help in reducing the annual cost of larger tracts of land. 4) Selective timber harvest is a great idea. With modern whole tree harvester little damage is done to the remaining trees. Be prepared to pay a timber tax out of the proceeds. 5) Try to not romanticize living in the country, there are pluses and minus to all areas. If you have a day job commute time and job availability are important. If you have kids the school system is important as is the quality of local government. 6) One of our reasons for moving to a rural area is to be more involved with the community, than in a big city. NH has a long tradition of citizen involvement.
Tom Schmidt - referring to your point #3 above - here in PA we have Clean & Green. It offers reduced tax rates on blocks of land of 10 or more contiguous acres provided certain conditions are met. The goal is to keep it open.
I just bought 2 acres w home , barn and garage for only $58,000. Added perimeter fence for $7,000. Look up Jasper Florida prices. This place is like heaven. Gorgeous antibellum mansions for under $100,000.. I did it I paid cash for a horse farm. It can be done!
A lot of the tips you mentioned I have been doing while window shopping for land. Thank you for yalls video! Hearing these tips reassures that what I have been and am doing is on the right path.
Thank you for this video. I’m early in my research for homesteading. I’ve only been doing serious research for a about a year. I won’t be moving to the mainland for 5 years, looking to move back to the south. Tennessee, Kentucky, North Carolina, and even Arkansas are some target spots I’m looking at. Never heard of a timber broker but this video was packed with great info. I would have no idea, as a school teacher, how to clear land. This is genius and another tool in my toolbox I’m filling. I’m excited to try and become an expert in the next 5 years
This is a great video! I am selling my high priced hovel in the USSRC (The United Soviet Socialist Republic of California) and buying just as much land as I can afford in a midwest state for a homestead. I already knew a lot of this stuff just instinctually like staying away from real estate agents until you need a buyer's agent to make an offer and shepherd you through the process. But this pleasant talk crystallizes it in my mind and there were a number of good pointers I hadn't given much thought to. So, here's to homesteading, THANKS, and Cheers!!!
People like you have quit California before. And slink back when taxes rise or get treated like a economic problem refugee. Replacing deported foreign labor. In a right to work state which California protected you from. Enjoy the dust storms, sticky hot weather, and fracking- ruined underground water. Been there. Know what I'm saying ?
@Thelondonbadger Yeah, that's the standard assumption isn't it? Pure propaganda. I vote Conservative and Republican. I am 2nd Amendment, Libertarian and in fact probably more Conservative than the average in the state I'm moving to. Don't make assumptions. I despise Libtards and resent your stupid judgements.
@@toruko-ishibravo2zulu679 Oh, I'm not going back. Californica is probably the most beautiful state in the union but the Libtards have ruined it. They destroy everything they touch. I grew up there and I know the score. I have no intention of ever living in a brain-dead Socialist state ever again. A little humidity doesn't bother me and I'm far from the fracking. There is a price to pay for everything and it is very payable for freedom's sake. Besides, there are three other very pleasant seasons besides summer which means I can grow food all year long. There are no "people like me" and you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground. I resent your stupid, ignorant judgements. I have my own businesses and "right to work" doesn't have any effect on me and mine except that it makes things easier. Know what I'm saying? LoL.........
Very informative. TY for sharing. I'm originally from WV so the land will always be close to my heart. It's nice to see people are mindful of the blessings of the land but also putting it to good use.
Very informative video! You are so lucky in the States to have such rich hardwood forested land. I have to admit I would be a bit leery about settling in West Virginia because of the poverty (and consequent social problems) there, but it sure looks like a beautiful piece of land. I'm wondering if your technique would work in Nova Scotia Canada?
Well congrats on getting out of Florida. Your living the dream brother! Thing is tho...not everyone has a chunk of change to avoid bank financing. Which is where i'm at. Very informative video, i subscribed, and good luck to you. Greetings from Spring Hill.
Timothy Hays I did finance the $55k. I need to shoot an update video explaining that. You’re not the only one to say that. I financed the property purchase then built too much house. Unless I pay more, I will have a mortgage until I am 70.
@@RedToolHouse I'm sixty and hope to have 200K paid off in 5 years. Lots of side hustle on the weekends like selling roofing (especially after these big spring storms) power washing, the occasional Uber if I'm going somewhere in that direction (excellent for networking btw) and a random landscape/ManCave/Garage upgrade job here and there.
Managed woodland has been successful for millenia in Europe. In England we have coppice that is over a thousand years old in the fragments of ancient woodland that are left.
Good advice. Main thing is everyone should remember is that it takes time unless you have and want to spend a lot of money. A farmstead that is neglected, has solid, outdated home and bad fencing can be a diamond in the rough. The house can be remodeled and made livable if it does not have major structural issues. Fences can be built, and probably where you want them to better facilitate your operations. Roads can be improved, fields cleared, trash removed, timberland improved with management, and soil and water conditions improved.
I find myself watching this again with more questions for you. What type of Title does the property have? Heard about this? It is my understanding most people do not own the land fully unless they have an "Allodial Title" or a "Land Patent". This is the highest form of land title you can get and it grants you specific legal rights. You own the property "Free and Clear". The property Cannot be Taxed as the county holds no control over the land. Other rights include The land cannot be taken from you by Federal State or local government Even for eminent domain, the land is not subject to code enforcement and you can transfer the title to your kids and their kids for ever. You become a Sovereign Land Owner. The Land by law Always belongs to the people, the State or County Cannot own land. The county is an "Agent" who's job it is to convey the land from one person to another. They essentially have been scamming people for years by not offering to you the real Land Patent. However the Federal Government by law offers us a way to obtain this title and all the rights that go with it. This is what I've learned since I spoke to you last and wondered if you'd heard about it or if not i'm happy to share if this may help you. A few sources: Definition definitions.uslegal.com/a/allodial-title/ - TeamLaw teamlaw.net/ - National Association of Rural Land Owners www.narlo.org/index.html
@Divergent Droid... Thank you for sharing that, I've learned more from your great comment than the video itself ...good info!!! I'm going to copy and save it....thx!
Thanks Troy! VERY interesting and informative video. We've pretty much given up on traditional Realtor/MLS hunting. We also found that financial institutions aren't real big on getting involved with undeveloped property. Fortunately we are retired, have no mortgages or debt of any kind. But, unfortunately most of our cash is tied up in our existing home and properties. Trying to liquidate the excess is a chore man. We need to think outside the box as y'all did. I've sub'd, Liked on FB and signed up for your email list. Great sources for info! Thanks again. All the best, Charlie
Charlie Zellner I feel you pain. We had to go with a local small town bank that would work with large tracts of land. They didn't finance on a fixed 30 year mortgage. They did variable rate with a refi every four years. Once we had that in place the national market would work with us (since another institution had taken the risk) but we still had to split the deed into two parts - the house and ten acres and the remaining 90 acres. Frustrating but doable.
Red Tool House - Homestead most of the mega banks will not loan on property anymore if it is over 10.0 acres. They consider it agricultural land at that point whether it is zoned that or zoned single family and they say the risk on agriculture property is four times higher than dealing with cookie cutter homes on 1/10th of an acre within the city limits. We owner financed our farm cause nobody would loan on it cause it was over 10 acres and I did not want to get creative and split it up into several parcels. Problem is tho that I’ve gotta hump it cause we had to do a 5 year note and either need to have it paid off in 3 years now or pay the ballon note by refying but nobody will touch it so hope starting this year that the farm will start paying for itself with the greenhouse I’m putting in, produce I will be raising this spring and summer, and I have a woodmizer sawmill ordered that will be here next week so I can start milling lumber off the property and selling it. I hope and pray it all comes together
Shelray Sam check out episode 49 where I talk about using on line tax info. It may require a lot of work but could get you land cheaper than listed properties.
Texas too, you can find cheap land but you need to look at the kind of land. You want trees but it all depends on how you're going to live and where. Check for flood plains and never buy without a survey. Utilities are important and decide how you build. Research minimalist, Tiny Home, RV, sustainable living ECT and you'll get a lot of information. I use to do Land/Home properties in Tx which is what you want to do. I did everything from you wanting it and me making it happen. Raw land into property CHEAP that's what made me good. It's cheap to build a house, it's not complicated.
In my area you are allowed to have mobile homes on their own property. That being said I was married at the time and looking for a lot that had a distressed home on it! We found 2 acres with a beat up falling down house on it!! The thing is though the property was already set up with a well, septic, electric and cable ON THE LOT! We came in a few days after the land closed, and began tearing out a number of things we could take for scrap as their was a number of stoves, old refrigerators and a few washers and dryers in and around the house. We also did a little demo on the home as well, to prepare it for the next step, which was calling the local fire department and asking if they wanted the home for a "test burn"!! The fire department asked for a small donation and came to inspect the property, and they set up the date of the test burn on a Saturday morning! The "test burn" is so they can practice their skills with kids who are "new to the fire department" and the agreed to come out and set our "new house on fire" as we were preparing to move our single wide home onto the lot!. Long story short three days after the test burn, we had a local guy come in bulldoze the land to level it and then he dug out our pad for the mobile home to sit on! In all we had bought the land (two acres) for $9000 add in the $1500 for the bulldozer guy and $500 for the fire department donation and we were onto an two acre lot for just $11,000. The best part was the house had everything working on it BEFORE we worked on (Water, Sewer, Electric) so when we had "stripped the house" we made sure to grab the pump that supplied the house with water and we even removed the old electrical box to use later as well too! In the end it was just a matter of parking our mobile home on it, hooking everything into it, and we were "home" nto longer than a week later!! And the electrical box from the house was used to power my work shop a year later, and the water pump was rebuilt and supplied our home with water for 12 years, until we finally installed a new well that was deeper and a submersible pump for higher pressure. If I ever have to do it again that is EXACTLY how I would do it.....except I might buy my own tractor now, so I can level my own land and dig my pad myself!!! That is the ONLY thing I would have changed.....because it would have been nice to have a large patio!!! LOL
Back in 1988 I took out a loan for 1 million on a large piece of property of 4100 acres with the intention of subdividing it, but before the ink was dry a natural gas company came knocking wanting to buy the mineral rights. Instead of selling I allowed them to drill with the agreement I wanted royalties. So now I am drawing about $25,000 a mouth off of 8 wells. I never broke it up and it is paid for now, and I still own the mineral rights. I also have about 300 acres of good hay field that I make about $30,000 a year off. We built a big house have few cattle and a large garden that our Church Family share in. One my own I built a lake of about 60 acres. I also have a grass airstrip. Behind the lake I put a hydroelectric plant so now I have power for the whole farm. 3 houses 2 barns & a big shop / airplane hanger. + free natural gas. And people say I am crazy at 68 years of age.
Sounds like a great setup. You can do a great deal of work when you have the resources to get started.
Yea, how did you get a loan for a million dollars? Sounds like you are a drug dealer. Lol
Nancy Smith just like Buying a house; the land was my collateral. NO drugs, NO alcohol; this body is a Temple. I do pray a lot! I made a promise to God if he would bless me I would tithe 25% !
Make a Vow to god and anything is possible congrats on wealth Keep god number one
God isn't going to give you a loan for a million. This guy had to have put up something of great wealth or has great wealth before a bank would ever consider a loan of that size.
This load of shit has made me feel dumb for ever reading the comments congrats.
My dad bought a 72 acre farm in 1965 and moved all of us to it. It had a trout stream and a 200 year old worker's quarters that was seasonally used during planting, weeding and harvest season by traveling bands of farm workers. Dad took it down. It was 3 times the size of our 13 room farmhouse. He sold the wood and paid off 1/4 of the mortgage. Dad timbered out a few pieces toward the back and put us at only owing half. We started a fruit and vegetable stand. My oldest brother raised cows for meat and milk. We had a block henhouse for eggs. My dad built a locust wood pole chicken coop for meat birds. I kept a small freezer full of trout. Another brother shot deer in season. I shot squirrels and rabbits. You can get somewhere if you "extract the gold." A gas pipeline company had to pay dad to allow 3/4 miles of 4 gas pipes to run underground from corner to corner on our property, underneath our potato and hay fields. Dad was an engineer and an inventor so things were very interesting on the farm. I'll never change those experiences for anything.
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They make lots of new land in Hawaii, you just have to wait for it to cool off before you can set foot on it.
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You can get 2 acres for $10k in a town called "Oceanview, Hawaii"
@@chrischoir3594 You can probably get a 2 acre parcel for $2,000 in Ocean View Estates Subdivision but it will be what I used to call a "low maintenance lot." Meaning that it is mostly volcanic rubble or maybe pahoehoe with no power or water at around 5,000 feet in elevation and in lava hazard zone 1 or 2.
Well, I want to share my success story and thank you. I have been looking for a place to buy for roughly 2 years. I just couldn't believe how high the prices were. Long story short, I found this video in October of 2020 and started looking for land via online plat books. I spent so many hours looking and looking. I made sure the owner address was always different than the property address, no marshland, swamps, etc. Sent 21 letters, called once, got 4 responses. I never even went to most of these places, since they were 3 to 6 hours away, just looked on google maps as good as I could and the plat book aerial photography. I just bought a piece of land last weekend that had a well, septic, nice garage and a run down trailer house 20K below market value and about 40K cheaper than similar properties in the area for sale. I am so happy you made this video, I would of never thought to look for land this way! THANK YOU!
This makes me so happy! So glad you were able to find land at a great price.
Don't know why I am following you because I am 74 & just wish I could put a basic tiny house on 1 acre or less. Most places won't allow them.
It is so interesting that I guess I am living vicariously through you.
Great info!
lot of farmers will rent or sell an acre for a little home. ask around.
The way I understand it is, if you lay concrete slabs on the property most jurisdictions will charge you property taxes BUT if you build sort of a cabin on concrete piers (you know you dump concrete on those carboard tubes that work as molds) and build the cabin "floating" on those concrete posts, them they can't charge you; for instance I know that in Minnesota it works that way but is not the only one.
@@DieselRamcharger Thanks, I will try this! :)
Me too 76 and find it all interesting
I wish more land owners took the time to show others the process. Subscribed.
Also be sure that the mineral rights are included in the contract, and that no oil/gas/coal/timber producer has a mineral lease on it.
Especially in coal and gas county like West Virginia. Very little land left with mineral rights intact or included.
that would be nice to have, but in a lot of places, you aren't going to get that. I've owned several properties in CO, and I don't think I had mineral rights on any of them except maybe one.
@@BrianKrahmer So then with most Sellers in CO (or western states), selling private rural land, is it fair to say, that THE SELLER usually (owns the mineral rights)...or likely instead, that Seller (when they bought it) also did not/could not acquire the mineral rights...therefore the Seller doesn't have the ability to transfer the mineral rights to you, even if Seller agreed to or wanted to?
@@jameskerry3826 the latter.
@@BrianKrahmer That's what I was thinking. Thank you.
3 years later, here I am. Looking for land. Thank you for the knowledge sir. ❤️
We moved from South Florida to North Carolina, we love it up here !!!
We have 5 acres, chickens, and a garden : )
@@Bada_Boom78 Not as many troublesome yankees.
those little "farmettes" can save you a bundle if you use the land for some "money crop"....qualify you as farmers...check out your county land use laws as for farmettes..
I'm obviously late in posting, but I bought my land (52 acres in September 1998). New England, with a 2 hour commute from my home or work, and friends in the area. You have many good points in this video! The wooded area had already been timbered recently (selectively), and I've maintained the logging trail.
I did use a realtor but she never walked any property with me... she sent me listings and I drove there and investigated on my own. It turns out that I bought the second property she sent me to, although I kept looking because I wanted a smaller lot. I kept coming back... there is a field on it that is about 8 acres, so I wouldn't need to do clear cut. The previous owners had it tractor mowed once a year. It was actually a border around an old apple orchard, and a house had burned down there in the 1930's (only a pile of stones remained)
It took me longer to get around to build than I had wanted (in the few years before I did, I was contacted by several potential buyers who DID see this undeveloped property listed on line, however they looked... and they were willing to pay, but I wanted my dream here). I'm here, and now raising chickens.
Look for access, a southern exposure (if you are north), water in the region, accessibility during Mud Season, and zoning regs. And keep in mind what you want to do: for me, chickens for eggs and meat, future sheep and/or goats, maple syrup, and so forth. How will you winter, how will you live, built a house (or convert a structure you don't have to tear down).
Good advice. Your diligence and patience paid off!
My wife and I have been talking about doing this for years. This video has inspired us to get organized, start serious saving, and begin property hunting here in Missouri. Thank you for making this video.
Check out episode 49 (I think) where I detail how to use tax maps to find potential vacant land.
I heard the ozarks are a great place to buy land
You have no idea how much I appreciate sharing your personal experience
You are so welcome! I am glad it was of some use.
I've watched dozens of videos on this topic, and this one is by far the best I've seen yet. Thank you for the information. So many excellent points. I've spent too much time focused on a more traditional route of buying home/finding land which has been VERY discouraging. Definitely avoiding a realtor. My husband and I don't have a huge income so we're going to have to think out of the box to be able to afford it. Your tips were very helpful! After listening to all of this, I feel like it's possible. Hard work. But definitely possible. Thank y'all!
I have left notes on doors of owners that weren't even selling their land till they saw the note. Works for us several times now. Just drive and look.
Gobuilditbetter What price and acre range?
@@happytrails3 Two that we tracked down the owners, each are 3 acres lots with roads cut into the mountains, underground electric, septics, one has a well and the other community water meter to the property. Both have Colorado mountain views. One we will build on spec and sell, the other we plan on building our retirement house. Each were bought for $20,000. One is worth $60,000 and the other $80,000 4 years later.
would you be willing to share how you worded your note? thanks.
@@redone823 Twice in the past five years The note was just a sticky not so I was straight to the point. Something like " I am interested in purchasing a property that I believe you currently own. If you are interested I have a cash offer we can discuss. Respectfully, Tim..."
Privacy is highly valued and many can be offended even when the information is public record. County records now have a GIS map that you can use to find the Owners name and address. MLS# 903821 is one such property I offered $20,000 and now recently listed. I featured it in this video as I prepared it for sale. ruclips.net/video/YNmwRcQzF_o/видео.html
Thank you guys! Awesome story I was sure it is possible to buy cheap and not pay the absolutely ridiculous property prices of today and this made it clear that it is.
We are in liveable and farmable lots at right around 2000 each.
Huge shout out to you two. A measured, sane, intelligent approach to "homesteading", as it were. Appreciate how much emphasis you place on being resourceful and flexible when approaching the endeavor.
This is so awesome. I'm 23 and I hate paying rent. I just wanna find a decent plot of raw land and start building a house here in nc
i'm 30 still paying rent. going on 12 years worth.
having already a well and an electric line is big deal when buying land..and main road acess lol.congrats to yall...
There is land like this all over Tennessee. Unfortunately most of it is very remote or straight up the side of a mountain. It sure is beautiful though. Good for you and may God continue to bless you!
Tennessee Texan where is this land I’m new to tn but looking to buy I am in the Hillsboro that’s area any tips would be great !
Truthasivebeen Shown Check on the internet under Landwatch or look for land brokers in Tennessee.
Wre u in t mobil?!
I appreciate your mindset about how to get your timber cut and make money at the same time.
Too many people want to take everything from the property and make it bare.
Again, thank you very much for being a good steward of what you have been able to get control of.
I am going to do a video soon with my good friend who is a timber broker and forester. He should be able to give some great advice on timber sales.
Yes, please! One of the questions I'd like to know is where to start? Where does a land owner find timber brokers? How should they be vetted for fairness and honesty?
All good questions. I will make sure we address those and others.
Great video. I was going to recommend that you mention the timber brokers name since you seem to have had a really good experience. Depending on his range, sounds like he deserves some more business.
Peter Sedesse sure thing. His website is wvlandgroup.com. I will get him on video as soon as he slows down. He has been very busy this year. Thanks for watching!
Red Tool House - Homestead ...Thank-you for your advice. My elderly mother lives on land with timber and struggles to make ends meet. I don't know why we never thought about it before but your timber broker idea set off the light bulb.! God bless!
That first tip was such a smart tip. Drive through the rural areas you’re interested in, avoid the realtors, abandoned land is a good possibility 👌🏾
How can you tell an abandoned land?
City boy here, so not know how to navigate without a realtor.
I meant how you can come onto land with certainty that you're not trespassing and having dogs chasing you/ someone pointing a rifle at you
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County records are free and public. meaning you can look on an abandoned lot (an old building that's clearly vacant and then search public records for who the owner is and mail them an offer, of course, if you see cars or people its not abandoned or vacant)
@@lukeryuzaki2328 with caution and maybe a highly visible vest so you don't seem to be sneaking. Bright day, bright shirt, most people aren't going to assume you're there for no good. At night, dark clothes? Yeah nice try down south 🤣🤣
Have you considered planting high value trees like black walnut? I've heard people refer to black walnut as like planting a 401k. Also if you plant a whole grove of it, you can eventually start selling the nuts.
I loved the idea of selling the timber to pay a good portion of the price of the property.... Awesome...
Zakaria that was because the old sick man hand none to look after his property, otherwise would not have sold his property for that less a price. he would himself knew the price of his timber in addition to his property.
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Very good tip, Timbering .. We're about 3 years away from being able to afford -something-, doing herb and spice farming on a small lot to get there, with the intent of running an orchard eventually. One of the technical issues was all of the clearing that would need to be done in order to put in the trees that we want, and that sounds like a good way to get it done, and get some capital for infrastructure at the same time!
Just a thot about starting an orchard- I do not think the timber harvesters take out stumps, if they do, be willing to pay for it.
the sound of peepers in the background! one of my favorite sounds of appalachia. i’m in north central wv looking for my first homestead. this information is priceless! thank y’all so much.
Lot of good land up there. You should be able to find a great homestead piece!
Ok I'm half way through this video and I have to say I love it. I love the valuable info you're providing.
Thanks for watching!
So cool
I HAVE WATCHED 20 LAND VIDS TONIGHT ,THIS IS MY FIRST AND ONLY COMMENT.
INSPIRING VIDEO , THANKS SO MUCH
Lee Feriozzi awesome. Glad you liked it!
WV is terrible do not move there!!!
@@misconceptionindustries2968 I live in WV and I agree. You are not wrong. Trying to get out lol
@@misconceptionindustries2968 yep!! they have a fascist governor there breaking all kinds of constitutional laws!!! smh
Live4aPurposeHigherThenYourself 11:11 • Are you referring to Virginia’s governor ? Or is WV’s governor a tyrant too?
As a young lad in Alabama this is my dream, but I am single and I work 24/7 and with all the bills I have and where I rent I just cannot get ahead. Whether it’s my vehicle messing up or something else. I just don’t see how people are able to save so much money. I guess most of these people had parents that were able to afford college. Not me unfortunately, life is tough. I guess just keep on keeping on. Congrats on the people who are able to achieve their dreams and experience success.
Thanks for the info! Really appreciate you going out of your way to help others do what you did!
Great story. I live in Lebanon pa and am looking at homesteading west virginia. A few factors that drew me in were
1low property values means cheaper upfront buy
2low property tax rate resulting in lower yearly taxes compared to my current house with no land
3country freedom. I got a fine for a campfire because I used paper to start the fire.
4being self sufficient and following my dream to farm and homestead.
A dream is meaningless if you never work at accomplishing it. Save up some money be smart and patient and start working at what you can now and it will pay off in the long run.
One thing I learned the hard way is be careful who you get to check out your land. I had a man from the soil and water come to check a pond and the next day I was outbid the original selling price. I t happened on my next property when I had a local guy come check the septic and had to pay an additional 8 thousand for the property. He had offered more money and I had to pay it if I wanted it. Just be aware.
Thieving bastards everywhere.
abandoned in 2000 ! you've both come a long way to resurrect this homestead...Jeff at BobbleHead Farm had the same long journey; low money for a piece of property with potential if someone is willing to put in the sweat equity. Nicely done !
thanks for taking the time to offer some help!
This is an invaluable resource. Thank you so much
~ 24 year old mom-to-be
Man, I live in WV and just happened to find this video. Thank you so much for this !
My husband and I thank you so much for this. We are fixing to move, hopefully to wv from MD to homestead in the spring and you guys have mentioned a couple of things that we didn't know enough about. You guys rule. Definitely subscribing. Please, keep these videos coming. Brilliant!
Woo Hoo at future WVian! Welcome. Good luck with your land search in our beautiful state. Thanks for watching!
Very informative, good information. Thank you so much for taking your time to try to help someone other than yourself, while simultaneously educating people in a non-invasive manner about land conservation and renewable resources.
Thank you for the video. It's very enlightening. As the old saying goes "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink". A lot of negative comments on here.
Wow your woods are so beautiful there in West Virginia. You’re right that hardwood is a valuable resource.
This is awesome! Glad to have you guys, belated welcome to our state! I was born and raised here in Logan Co. I'm in search just as you guys were and stumbled across this video. Thanks for sharing the info!
Brianmason4040 Logan isn’t very far away. Good luck with your search and thanks for watchjng
We bought our current 40 acre farm just for the price of the house. Then we did a ton of work on cleaning up and fencing. If you aren't afraid of work you can get a bargain and then sell it for triple what you paid. We've done it and if I was younger I'd do it full time. I sold over $6000 worth of scrap from our previous place.
Yes! The scrap metal off my farm was over $1000.
Totally in agreement with the timber broker advice. As for land, check with the local town and the State DES to determine if there are REAL problems like MTBE or industrial waste or even spilled diesel like you may find with the shade tree mechanics dumping car fluids in the crik. Some of these vacant lots have more issues than you want to inherit. The legal responsibility for curing the ills lies with the landowner. You definitely do not want to be paying the carrying costs for a brownfield you can't afford to remediate.
I like a property like this. I wan’t privacy, no HOA, no neighbors.
It would be perfect living out somewhere like that no neighbors or people from that bough snooping around on your I live in a town that people from The bough Snoop around all the time and nitpick I want my nearest neighbor to be a mile or two away.
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Privacy is so underrated, since to many people are basically lazy to take care of a farm home, raise there own vegetable, fruit etc.,
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i was up into Mi from ohio drove by a place looked at it and told the lord tht it would be nice to live here. not a year later we owned that land! 10.08 acres nice small pole barn double wide on a poured foundation. $45 thousand! Yes it needed a lot of work too!
Sounds like a great place! The hard work will pay off.
We actually are looking for land now so appreciate this video
Heartiness Approach excellent. Good luck in your property search!
Man you guys are killing it. I follow a lot of homestead channals and the information here and how its presented is amazing. Gotta watch the rest of your vids
Great! Thanks for watching!
without a doubt the most important video i've watched on youtube,thank you so much for the great inside info!
Wow! That is a great comment. Thanks!
Great help awsome video. Poverty a family curse I'm breaking. Stay blessed. I learned a lot from your vid and will explore your channel. I subscribed.
thanks for the info i just purchased 5.5 acres in boone ky and has trash on it for 42k in the process of cleaning it up now there is 5 acres at the end of the same row for 106k . thanks to trash and a worn out home i got the land cheap
Hard work in cleaning it up will pay off in the long run. Good luck!
Red Tool House - Homestead thank you i appreciate it .
We paid 8500 for 9 acres, and 700 each for 1/4 acre lots. ??
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Sorry, may I ask where is it ? where did you buy what state?
In 1970 my dad bought a piece of property very similar to yours (except on the Ohio side of the river). He had it timbered in 1972, and, today, 45 years later, well into his 70s he STILL maintains the roads left by the loggers, and keeps them open. He always called them "Fire Roads" because if there's ever a forest fire, firefighters may need them to gain access. Something to think about...
Chris D absolutely! I keep all of my timber roads open. I was cutting down trees across one today. A lot of work but definitely makes the property more accessible.
that how I got my land, only I got more for the timber then I paid for the land, I was 19 at the time and I had worked in the bush my self for 3 years already so I knew how it had to be done, I had to cut about 70% of it as a few years before I bought it we had a huge wipe out of the spruce trees, thousands of sq mile were hit by the spruce bud worm, and there was only so much time to cut it before it would have been in-marketable, and they were huge spruce, all the jack pine were saved, I re-planted 5080 seedling supplied by our MNR. TO DAY AT 55 ITS LIKE IT WAS NEVER CUT, I did bring in a D8 dozer to clear the stumps into one big valley to make more flat land, and made live stock fields, but it is still way over run by dear, I have many taken out every year but has not made a dent in them, garden been hard to save, there was nothing on this land but 1 old truck and thick bush
Wow, that sounds like an incredible setup. So you have been on the same land for 36 years?
yes I have, and I have paid my dues, every chicken turkey, pig, calf, cow, that has died on me in my early years I sent off to the Gulf university to find out why it died, and it was always feed, I mix my own for what I do use, most is all compost, brush wet valleys, that just never stop regrown, tons of store rejects, most of my feed is over our long cold -50 winter with 7 feet of snow, don't pay to heat any barns, I make sure there's number in each one to self heat and keep all my auto waters going, you see I fell 18 feet to the frozen swamp in -40 weather at 11pm 50 miles from camp were I worked as a welder in the bush camp, so I had to make everything automatic, so to be as little work as posable, pigs an chicken take care of all the garden work to get it ready for the next year,, all the new bush is full of feed growing
Thanks for the info and congratulations on your beautiful land
When selling timber, check into all the ramifications. In parts of New England, the timber tax is so high, that it eats a huge percentage of the sale of the timber. Added to your personal income tax liability... it could bring very little in the end. In those areas, finding someone with a portable saw mill who can come to your property and produce rough sawn lumber from your logs is well worth looking into. Remember, the shavings, sawdust, and chipped slash are all valuable resources on a farm or homestead, as well.
Good advice! When we sold our timber in 2000 we did get bumped into a higher tax bracket but there were other write-offs we had that helped. We do also have a portable mill we use for our barn and other projects. We have several videos documenting the use of it. thanks for watching!
If you need to know who owns a lot its always a great idea to check the county tax assessor. They usually have a website now days, and if not you can go to the office in person and they'll help you out. It'll take some paper sorting but you should be able to find any permits it had and stuff like that.
I shouldn't tell my method of finding property, but I will. The first place I bought, I put up a letter size page telling what I was looking for, who I was and where I was from, plus what I wanted to do with it. I go to Seed & Feed and Hardware stores and ask if I can put up my add, they always want to know what it is? So I hand them one, they may know a place or someone? I put on there no real estate Co's or agents and pretty doesn't add $ to the price, but it doesn't hurt either. Dirt sells for X, timber value on top and we can talk about what else it might have. Small towns all have hardware, seed & feeds, that's where the older fellows that grew up, live and love their property hang out, or at least go on Sat AM. I ask when o get a call if anyone else is looking, if so when, I make my appt. before the others. I bought the 175 acre place with a home, barn, 2 good creeks & a 5 acre lake and it's all fenced. 1/2 wooded & the other 1/2 is improved pasture which at one time was planted crops, paid $150K. While I was talking it over with my wife, the next appt was riding around, when he came back, he went for his check book, I had already beat him to it, timing is everything! We've put 300+ fruit & nut trees in some of the open areas and planted pines in other. Left some open as well. We bought 330 acres the same way. We used some of the timber on the bigger track to pay it off, built an 11 acre lake and a large mtl bldg, ran power and had a well drilled. But now we're wanting to consolidate, sell the 2 tracks(505 acres)and our home(3 separate places is tough)take the $ and put it into 1 place. Then I start thinking about ALL the stuff that will need to be moved?
1 thing to think about too, up keep! Road system alone can be a lot of work, keeping grass cut in the roads, limbs trimmed back, it goes on & on. It takes me 8 hrs to mow the roads on the 175 acre track and that's with a 8' bushhog on a 80 HP tractor. It still takes work even with $100K worth of equip. With out a lot of work, nature will reclaim your land in a hurry. You've got to love it or you'll hate it.
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Enjoy paying your "Rent" slave.
Thanks so much for the valuable information. This can save true land seekers a lot of money👍
Hells yea!! Loved reading that. Good for you guys!!
Good idea
Great ideas and great advice. My ex-wife and I had a plan to find a piece of land like that back in the 90's. We went out driving around different areas and found a few decent places, but it never worked out. I am now in the situation that I am about to have the finances and will be moving 2 hours away to Indiana and I have been thinking about doing this. I already have a place to live when I get there, but there won't be enough room for all the other things I do, so I want to find a place to set up a nice size shop and music studio. Eventually, I would like to build my house there too. I have other ideas for the land as well, if the neighbors and zoning laws permit.
Excellent video on acquiring g land for homesteading. We recently started our homestead in our backyard, and a quarter of a block of van at lots. Thank you for sharing and keep up the great work.
Great advice! Thanks for helping the uninitiated.
Wow nice! You all did a great job, plus it’s so much more satisfying when you buy a turd and polish it to a diamond
Enjoy the video. Well informed. I liked the causal way you presented the information.
Come to Texas! I use to build and still dabble so I know what I'm talking about on building. I did raw land building in Texas as a GC with no formal training. You can wheel and deal and it's all about what land is worth. Owners parcel off and sell here all the time and it's a free for all what you can get. The one thing about land is if it's CAD says it's $5000 then it's worth $5000 but every payment is an actual asset. You pay $3000 of that $5k and you have 3k equity. Say you wanted to build a home but no real down payment. You could finance land and once you've built equity enough use land as down payment. We call this Land/Home here and you can get an FHA loan. We value land as Texans because we know it's worth and the value can't be messed with so a TANGIBLE ASSET unlike the Petrol dollar. You don't need to do a lot of research, you just need to know what to research and what not to miss.
The GC(Me) is the one who does all this but he's also why you pay $75 and up a sqft opposed to $35 and up. How long is takes is how long he's charging $60 hr. When you learn the basics of building which are FOUNDATION, FLOOR, 4 WALLS AND A ROOF. Trust me it's not complicated, SUBCONTRACTORS do the work. You pay yourself $60 hr and do the legwork like anything else in life. The benefit is $$$ saved and having control over product pricing so RESEARCH. That's why you're paying yourself $60 an hour so no whining, Geter Dun! YES YOU CAN PULL YOUR OWN PERMITS, your state and building codes determine. Raw land works like anything else but less restrictions depending on State and the government is your HOA. Utilities are what decide building codes but there's ways around things and loopholes. Water, power and plumbing, internet can be figured out too depending.
Wow
In a few years I might have a small 400 acre job for you. Basically, setting up a cattle pond, steer gates and a corral. I'll focus on building the house and barn. What's your opinion on well water in Lubbock vs New Braunfels? I think the Edwards Aquifer might be more reliable. Plus, later on a small hangar and airstrip for a Pipistrel Panthera.
Very good advice...liked and subscribed.
Overall good advice. My wife and I purchased our property in 1979, 13 acres in southern NH. We had pretty much despaired finding something we could afford. We were at a friends house and they mentioned one of the neighbors was interesting in selling. They had bought the property to build a house but had a change of heart.
Not as bad as your site but in typical New England fashion the back acreage was used to dump trash and the property had as small sand pit operation. We cleaned it up and lived in a mobile home for a couple of years until we built our house. Been there ever since.
Lessons we have learned:
1) Try to have the seller set the price. In our case when we met the seller we know the asking price and figured there was some negotiating room and had a lower price we were going to offer. The seller said he would not sell for less then $x, somewhat below what we were willing to offer. We promptly accepted his price.
2) Be sure the property is surveyed and has a clear title. Here in New England property boundaries, unless recently been surveyed, can be a but vague.
3) I don't know about other states, New Hampshire has Current Use taxation designed to help maintain open spaces. You need at least 10 acres that are not developed to qualify. In that case property is taxed as its productive value not the speculative sale value. Current Use is a huge help in reducing the annual cost of larger tracts of land.
4) Selective timber harvest is a great idea. With modern whole tree harvester little damage is done to the remaining trees. Be prepared to pay a timber tax out of the proceeds.
5) Try to not romanticize living in the country, there are pluses and minus to all areas. If you have a day job commute time and job availability are important. If you have kids the school system is important as is the quality of local government.
6) One of our reasons for moving to a rural area is to be more involved with the community, than in a big city. NH has a long tradition of citizen involvement.
Good stuff. Thanks for commenting.
Tom Schmidt - referring to your point #3 above - here in PA we have Clean & Green. It offers reduced tax rates on blocks of land of 10 or more contiguous acres provided certain conditions are met. The goal is to keep it open.
I just bought 2 acres w home , barn and garage for only $58,000. Added perimeter fence for $7,000. Look up Jasper Florida prices. This place is like heaven. Gorgeous antibellum mansions for under $100,000.. I did it I paid cash for a horse farm. It can be done!
Hahaha. So Jasper is Heaven? I didn't realize heaven was so close to hell. Drive down to Lake City. You'll see what I mean.
You lost me at Florida
Jasper FL
You got ripped off.
Hurricane swamp land people in Florida are suckers.
Freaking incredible story and awesome advise!!
A lot of the tips you mentioned I have been doing while window shopping for land. Thank you for yalls video! Hearing these tips reassures that what I have been and am doing is on the right path.
Hi Red Tool House, thanks for sharing your video and information. I'm in a long way to buy my property, but that is good and valuable info.
Thank you for this video. I’m early in my research for homesteading. I’ve only been doing serious research for a about a year. I won’t be moving to the mainland for 5 years, looking to move back to the south. Tennessee, Kentucky, North Carolina, and even Arkansas are some target spots I’m looking at. Never heard of a timber broker but this video was packed with great info. I would have no idea, as a school teacher, how to clear land. This is genius and another tool in my toolbox I’m filling. I’m excited to try and become an expert in the next 5 years
This is a great video! I am selling my high priced hovel in the USSRC (The United Soviet Socialist Republic of California) and buying just as much land as I can afford in a midwest state for a homestead. I already knew a lot of this stuff just instinctually like staying away from real estate agents until you need a buyer's agent to make an offer and shepherd you through the process. But this pleasant talk crystallizes it in my mind and there were a number of good pointers I hadn't given much thought to. So, here's to homesteading, THANKS, and Cheers!!!
Good luck with your land search and your defection from CA!
We have lots in higher elevation New Mexico , very cool and seasonable year round. 1/4 acre lots 2000.
People like you have quit California before.
And slink back when taxes rise or get treated
like a economic problem refugee. Replacing
deported foreign labor. In a right to work state
which California protected you from. Enjoy the
dust storms, sticky hot weather, and fracking-
ruined underground water. Been there. Know
what I'm saying ?
@Thelondonbadger Yeah, that's the standard assumption isn't it? Pure propaganda. I vote Conservative and Republican. I am 2nd Amendment, Libertarian and in fact probably more Conservative than the average in the state I'm moving to. Don't make assumptions. I despise Libtards and resent your stupid judgements.
@@toruko-ishibravo2zulu679 Oh, I'm not going back. Californica is probably the most beautiful state in the union but the Libtards have ruined it. They destroy everything they touch. I grew up there and I know the score. I have no intention of ever living in a brain-dead Socialist state ever again. A little humidity doesn't bother me and I'm far from the fracking. There is a price to pay for everything and it is very payable for freedom's sake. Besides, there are three other very pleasant seasons besides summer which means I can grow food all year long. There are no "people like me" and you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground. I resent your stupid, ignorant judgements. I have my own businesses and "right to work" doesn't have any effect on me and mine except that it makes things easier. Know what I'm saying? LoL.........
Very informative. TY for sharing. I'm originally from WV so the land will always be close to my heart. It's nice to see people are mindful of the blessings of the land but also putting it to good use.
We love our state. The land is so beautiful. You should come home :)
I live in NYC- you have no idea how much I'd love to be a homesteader!! :(
Save up some of that NYC income and buy you some land. Everything will seem cheaper compared to NYC prices!
Very informative video! You are so lucky in the States to have such rich hardwood forested land. I have to admit I would be a bit leery about settling in West Virginia because of the poverty (and consequent social problems) there, but it sure looks like a beautiful piece of land. I'm wondering if your technique would work in Nova Scotia Canada?
Well congrats on getting out of Florida. Your living the dream brother! Thing is tho...not everyone has a chunk of change to avoid bank financing. Which is where i'm at. Very informative video, i subscribed, and good luck to you. Greetings from Spring Hill.
Timothy Hays I did finance the $55k. I need to shoot an update video explaining that. You’re not the only one to say that. I financed the property purchase then built too much house. Unless I pay more, I will have a mortgage until I am 70.
@@RedToolHouse I'm sixty and hope to have 200K paid off in 5 years. Lots of side hustle on the weekends like selling roofing (especially after these big spring storms) power washing, the occasional Uber if I'm going somewhere in that direction (excellent for networking btw) and a random landscape/ManCave/Garage upgrade job here and there.
From JUDY & JIMM ,Mesq. Tx , THANKYOU 4 YOUR HELP , be back ,yall.
Life is and will always be what you make of it
Great advises learned a little more love what you got out of the timber & using the scraper people to haul some of your garbage that's also good idea
Great advice, Thank you. Brilliant channel you've got hear.
Cheers,
Andy
Clan Gunn Bushcraft ?
+N2 DaAIR ?
N2 DaAIR ?
What's all the question marks about??????????????????? 😂
Some very good advice, I learned a lot. Thank you!
very well explained! thank you!
Managed woodland has been successful for millenia in Europe. In England we have coppice that is over a thousand years old in the fragments of ancient woodland that are left.
thank you for your help. my wife and I just decided last night to get some land and put a house on it and make a farm and this video was very helpful.
Awesome! Good luck with land search!
Good advice. Main thing is everyone should remember is that it takes time unless you have and want to spend a lot of money. A farmstead that is neglected, has solid, outdated home and bad fencing can be a diamond in the rough. The house can be remodeled and made livable if it does not have major structural issues. Fences can be built, and probably where you want them to better facilitate your operations. Roads can be improved, fields cleared, trash removed, timberland improved with management, and soil and water conditions improved.
I find myself watching this again with more questions for you. What type of Title does the property have? Heard about this? It is my understanding most people do not own the land fully unless they have an "Allodial Title" or a "Land Patent". This is the highest form of land title you can get and it grants you specific legal rights. You own the property "Free and Clear". The property Cannot be Taxed as the county holds no control over the land. Other rights include The land cannot be taken from you by Federal State or local government Even for eminent domain, the land is not subject to code enforcement and you can transfer the title to your kids and their kids for ever. You become a Sovereign Land Owner. The Land by law Always belongs to the people, the State or County Cannot own land. The county is an "Agent" who's job it is to convey the land from one person to another. They essentially have been scamming people for years by not offering to you the real Land Patent. However the Federal Government by law offers us a way to obtain this title and all the rights that go with it. This is what I've learned since I spoke to you last and wondered if you'd heard about it or if not i'm happy to share if this may help you. A few sources: Definition definitions.uslegal.com/a/allodial-title/ - TeamLaw teamlaw.net/ - National Association of Rural Land Owners www.narlo.org/index.html
@Divergent Droid... Thank you for sharing that, I've learned more from your great comment than the video itself ...good info!!! I'm going to copy and save it....thx!
Heard of anyone actually getting allodial title?
Phenomenal information in its practicality. Much appreciate this. Hope some of these points can be applied to BC Canada. Thanks a million!
Gw Baker did you have any luck?
Great stuff! Just subbed!
Great video
when did they stop making land?
Super Informative!Thanks for Sharing 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks Troy! VERY interesting and informative video. We've pretty much given up on traditional Realtor/MLS hunting. We also found that financial institutions aren't real big on getting involved with undeveloped property. Fortunately we are retired, have no mortgages or debt of any kind. But, unfortunately most of our cash is tied up in our existing home and properties. Trying to liquidate the excess is a chore man. We need to think outside the box as y'all did. I've sub'd, Liked on FB and signed up for your email list. Great sources for info! Thanks again. All the best, Charlie
Charlie Zellner I feel you pain. We had to go with a local small town bank that would work with large tracts of land. They didn't finance on a fixed 30 year mortgage. They did variable rate with a refi every four years. Once we had that in place the national market would work with us (since another institution had taken the risk) but we still had to split the deed into two parts - the house and ten acres and the remaining 90 acres. Frustrating but doable.
Red Tool House - Homestead most of the mega banks will not loan on property anymore if it is over 10.0 acres. They consider it agricultural land at that point whether it is zoned that or zoned single family and they say the risk on agriculture property is four times higher than dealing with cookie cutter homes on 1/10th of an acre within the city limits. We owner financed our farm cause nobody would loan on it cause it was over 10 acres and I did not want to get creative and split it up into several parcels. Problem is tho that I’ve gotta hump it cause we had to do a 5 year note and either need to have it paid off in 3 years now or pay the ballon note by refying but nobody will touch it so hope starting this year that the farm will start paying for itself with the greenhouse I’m putting in, produce I will be raising this spring and summer, and I have a woodmizer sawmill ordered that will be here next week so I can start milling lumber off the property and selling it. I hope and pray it all comes together
I live in Mason Co and I really liked this video I want to do something similar in the years to come thank you for this information
I just want 5-15 acres. But have no idea were to look for super cheap land that similar like your lannds. I'm a single mom and poor but love land farm
Shelray Sam check out episode 49 where I talk about using on line tax info. It may require a lot of work but could get you land cheaper than listed properties.
Check Nebraska and Kansas if you are looking in every state.
Red Tool House - Homestead free
Did you find a spot? Land is very affordable (cheap) in northern New Mex. Great climate, incredible natural beauty. We have a few lots.
Texas too, you can find cheap land but you need to look at the kind of land. You want trees but it all depends on how you're going to live and where. Check for flood plains and never buy without a survey. Utilities are important and decide how you build. Research minimalist, Tiny Home, RV, sustainable living ECT and you'll get a lot of information. I use to do Land/Home properties in Tx which is what you want to do. I did everything from you wanting it and me making it happen. Raw land into property CHEAP that's what made me good. It's cheap to build a house, it's not complicated.
In my area you are allowed to have mobile homes on their own property. That being said I was married at the time and looking for a lot that had a distressed home on it! We found 2 acres with a beat up falling down house on it!! The thing is though the property was already set up with a well, septic, electric and cable ON THE LOT!
We came in a few days after the land closed, and began tearing out a number of things we could take for scrap as their was a number of stoves, old refrigerators and a few washers and dryers in and around the house. We also did a little demo on the home as well, to prepare it for the next step, which was calling the local fire department and asking if they wanted the home for a "test burn"!! The fire department asked for a small donation and came to inspect the property, and they set up the date of the test burn on a Saturday morning! The "test burn" is so they can practice their skills with kids who are "new to the fire department" and the agreed to come out and set our "new house on fire" as we were preparing to move our single wide home onto the lot!.
Long story short three days after the test burn, we had a local guy come in bulldoze the land to level it and then he dug out our pad for the mobile home to sit on! In all we had bought the land (two acres) for $9000 add in the $1500 for the bulldozer guy and $500 for the fire department donation and we were onto an two acre lot for just $11,000. The best part was the house had everything working on it BEFORE we worked on (Water, Sewer, Electric) so when we had "stripped the house" we made sure to grab the pump that supplied the house with water and we even removed the old electrical box to use later as well too! In the end it was just a matter of parking our mobile home on it, hooking everything into it, and we were "home" nto longer than a week later!!
And the electrical box from the house was used to power my work shop a year later, and the water pump was rebuilt and supplied our home with water for 12 years, until we finally installed a new well that was deeper and a submersible pump for higher pressure.
If I ever have to do it again that is EXACTLY how I would do it.....except I might buy my own tractor now, so I can level my own land and dig my pad myself!!! That is the ONLY thing I would have changed.....because it would have been nice to have a large patio!!! LOL
You could have used those tires for an earthship house/shed.
No doubt! 17 years ago I had no idea what that was!
Or backstop for a gun range
Great video. Thank you for the insight.
Living the dream!
I think u gave us peeples? sum Damm good info!!! Thank U! RedTool, love u guys!! ^5s
That s what I need more information plz I don't have money I get sis a month but I want my own land an my tiny house I'm a farm woman
Virgen Rivera take a look at today’s video. It deals with a way to find land not listed. Hard work but could pay off
Hi Virgen, did you ever find your land? Curious.
nice logically organized presentation-very helpful