Mods Explain Reasons for Bans & Possibility of Extension to Bans in the GAME TARKOV Itself
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- Mods Explain Reasons for Bans & Possibility of Extension to Bans in the GAME TARKOV Itself
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Statement from Escape from Tarkov Official Discord : discord.com/channels/521608697764380694/521645013277474826/1337420872767766560
Statement from Escape from Tarkov ANZ : discord.com/channels/520898371087630346/943700139472728084/1219568447185490041
Hello, Deputy Head Mod here to clarify some things in this video and in the comments section:
1 - We are not banning people from Discords that are for modding/cheating in single player games such as Dark Souls or even WeMod (something that a lot of people have already asked about). The bans are only for being a part of/interacting with any multiplayer cheat/rmt discords. To the people that are stating they have been banned from our server for simply modding a single player game, this simply is not true and is just another attempt at trying to hide the real reasons why they were banned from the discord, and in some cases why they were banned from the game.
2 - This project has nothing to do with the games anti-cheat, and does not take up any time from the development team of both EFT and Arena. We also aren't the people working on the anti-cheat side of the game, or any part of the game as a matter of fact.
3 - The reason why we did not post an announcement sooner was because we wanted to keep the project out of the public eye. We felt that this was the right moment to share what we have been doing since April 2024. Whilst the ANZ server had already made an announcement, this was to a smaller audience compared to the official server.
As always, people are free to reach out to me on the official server for any other questions they may have and if I am able to answer, I will.
Anything but a working anti cheat🙏🏾
insta autoban someone without even a report if he moved at an average of 50km/h between two position snapshots without using vehicle? impossible. use statistical analysis to autoban someone who always pulls out tons of loot to a point where the likelyhood of that success is
It's not that simple
@@TaoriUTSthe issue becomes how lag compensation works. This type of banning system 9/10 ends up banning legitimate players. If multi-billion dollar companies failed what makes you think Tarkov can?
@@TaoriUTSyou can't automate anti cheat there will be so many false positives
I reported a blatant af cheater middle of last wipe. Guess what? The account is still not banned, in fact, it's level 45 this wipe!
BSG going after low hanging fruit, just like police. Afraid to get their hands dirty??
This actually the worst system ever. Many GTA graphic pack servers are flagged as cheating servers and being in one caused me to be banned. I tried to appeal and basically got stonewalled. This is a very flawed auto detection system and isnt fair to all the false bans that can't appeal at all. I havent even typed in the discord for like 4 wipes. Actually insane.
If you haven’t messaged the discord in over 2 years then i suppose it’s not much of a loss for you and you have no reason to be upset? Actually insane you’ll sit here and whine about a server you haven’t used in over six hundred days.
@@SaltSpirits you would suppose wrong. the other night my friends got off early and i tried going in there to find a quick duo and thats how i found out i was banned. Im also missing out on direct community updates. just cause i didnt type doesnt mean i didnt read.
Good thing there's no point in being a member of the official EFT discord anyway.
something a cheating player would say.
@@trenchtownmac3183 Lol, well I am pretty sure anyone looking at my tarkov account wouldn't say I am cheating. No money, bad kd, low quests completed, not many raids, and overall shit player. That said, I spent a lot of time on cheating forums, I find it interesting to see what bugs they find, what cheats exist, and sometimes ways to deal with them are talked about. I learned about the shooting legs back in the day on the ghost playes from one of the cheating forums. So I dunno seems like a bad reason to ban. Work on finding actual hacking people not this.
@@sevaul it is still valid reason to ban because like you are minority most people do for other reason
overall all cheaters and " customer " of this cheaters should get ban because they deserve by supporting cheaters all there is in reality of things
I reported them for admin abuse and cheat distribution because they don't seem to care about fixing the actual issue
yeah the only reason to be mad at this is if you’re cheating yourself lol
i was in this discord for 7 years, got banned last week, hadnt typed in it for 2 year or used voice chat in 3, appealed it and was told no because i was cheating......
how did you appeal you ban?
@@KyleRoss-n2cyou don't
imagine being upset about getting removed from a server you haven’t used in two years like it’s actually gonna have an affect on your day to day life. who the fuck cares 🤣
@@dutifulbarrel9084 not for this reason, other reason
Good thing I don’t cheat. I hate cheaters o7
it's been ridiculously non-sus this weekend so far :S
for this wipe i only reported like 4 people for cheating and got 2 massages with bans this wipe is so random
for example my friend got like 10 people ban massage
just got 5 confirmed cheats from the patch.
10 from the last 10 days so 1 a day yay
@@sparriz that my average 1 cheater a day still to much tho
the guy that wrote the statement on discord is the exact same guy i was talking on discord when i reported a guy cheating with ss as proof of him on radar and talking with cheat support on other discord, and they yet after 3 weeks didn't ban him... what are they doing
I met a cheater, reported it to a Russian emissary and he got banned with 5 hours
They want the cheaters.
Hello, I'm the guy you are talking about. What is your discord so I can check what you sent me as I don't recall a conversation with someone called foxuuu. Thanks
@@stinkmunky1 Ban wave, put game on sale right after, ????, profit.
@@thecolonel7180 hello
ah yes, more proof that they are willing to ban without legitimate proof of somebody cheating.
ah yes, more proof that you’re a whiny baby who won’t be happy no matter what they do
If you play with a cheater you’re guilty by association.
bet they gonna ban people in spt discords lol
Nobody will really care if they have spt. Its literally a better tarkov pve and u can play it without internet im pretty sure
@@counter8595 Nikita has already tried to block SPT and continues to throw a monkey-wrench into the works of the community of modders.
@ Because he cant make money off spt. He's a greedy man
@@counter8595 He already did though, they bought tarkov
@@counter8595that argument doesn’t really work when spt needs a legitimate and working copy of the game to run.
As someone whos never cheated and has joined only 10 servers for mostly emotes, this is kinda cool cause I can play the game and ppl who actually screwed around pay for it. It makes me want to play again!
i dont even fuck with the official tarkov discord, because too many strange ass characters on there. im not afraid of getting banned, i just dont want to associate with cheaters who ruin my game
lots of very intelligent people in comments just saying fix anti cheat
If massive corporations haven't been able to solve the problem how is bsg supposed to do it?
Funny you think they are doing everything they can when bsg likes the repeat business cheaters provide, blissfully unaware of your own ignorance
@@tryharderpls crazy that you call him ignorant when you think BSG gets paid for every cheat account. Cause cheaters wouldn’t steal or crack accounts.
@ Ok bro ur not smart most cheaters arent buying stolen accounts just the giga loser no life that should eat a bottle of advil types that serial cheat on everything and use hwid spoofers yea but most kids are just buying new base tarkov accounts
@@Krisdt8 they still need to get the accounts from somewhere which majority will be bought
@@woksolid6885 it doesn’t need to be solved completely as that is unrealistic and impossible however don’t pretend for one second that e.g csgo and tarkov have the same cheater problem because they don’t
this has desperation written all over it.. just fix the damn game. those cheats can't be that impossible to detect. banning people who are in certain discord servers is just stupid
No its not this is smart u JOIN cheat discord u break Rules simple. You should be baned not only from tarkov discord but from overall using of dc. And this Rules was made for people like you
@@pawelunikow1563 What's the problem with having a second account for "cheating" discord servers? On the contrary, it's more convenient for them to have a list of potentially "dishonest" players and monitor them, rather than scare away the cockroaches.
If you think it’s that easy maybe you should get into coding. Big $ in it if you can do it right.
@Jason-fy4sl u don't need to code just manualy checking stats or make a Script to do it for you
@@pawelunikow1563 any person who asks devs to manually check stats is a f*cking rеtаrd
love getting banned even if ive never cheated in a video game "beside nfs ug2 wich is a 20 yo sp game" 😒
Can confirm they will ban you in game too just lost my acct cuz it turns out my friend was cheating that I always play w noticed we were removed from the eft official discord a few days ago and we were both banned yesterday
Maybe I finally escaped tarkov!
deserved
@ yea I was pretty pissed I been playing w homie for 4 years like every day idk how long he was cheating
Alot of people going to be banned for being friends with someone they don't know is cheating
Everyone says it can’t be that hard to find the cheaters. That is a yes and no statement. Cheats have ways to change hardware serial. Then you have VPN, I watched an interview with someone talking cheating in COD and they have so many ways to get around detection.
That's so stupid, my ea account got banned while I wasn't even playing. Logged into to apex to try the OG playlist and found out I was banned a year ago. Hadn't even played for years. Does that count am I going to banned by bsg. Dumb system.
I do think playing with cheaters should be a ban.
Not 'one game' if you randomly play with a group or something.. But let's cut the ish - it's very easy to tell if your team mate is cheating. It doesn't take more than a game or two. So if you played 3, 4, or 15 games with said cheater- imo, you deserve cheat association ban.
loads of people are closet cheaters. it's not easy for noobs to tell if the friend that carries the group is cheating or good at the game, which is the image they want to create.
@@BM-pt6sy Closet cheaters or not, if you can't tell someone is cheating then maybe you need a few more years practice in these type of games, my dude.
@@iDrkTV lol thats my point im talking about noobs who need practice. genius
@@iDrkTV retard moment
damn i redownloaded the game thinking they were finally cracking down on cheaters and their friends guess i still cant play tarkov.
mate, how old are you? in 3min you create new discord... where is the problem?
making a functional anti cheat? nah that'd be too easy. banning for being in an alleged discord server? now we talking
Making a functional anticheat is literally something that has never been done before.
W BSG, it should be a global standard to NOT cheat in games...
Doesn't this also mean that they themselves are in the cheat discords to verify this? Literally rules for thee and not for me
winner winner chicken dinner
Congrats, you have the dumbest take in the entire comments section
Havnt ran into many cheaters this wipe. I have but not at the rate some people are reporting. I don’t cheat and I have a 17kd. Do you think they’re avoiding me because they think I could be cheating too? I’ve had a couple rush me when I have lvl6 plates on etc, but I get a cheater maybe once every 20 raids if that.
what do meannnn dont join cheat discords ? how else am i gonna be a streamer and trash talk everyone i kill because im just that good and they got rekt ( not cheating obvs)
Good.
I CANT DO CUSTOMS CO OP
Either BSG cannot implement a functional anti-cheat into their game, or they don’t want to because they profit from bans. Either way, the game will die because of it.
alright genius where is this working anti cheat? which game has it?
that's right it doesn't exists
@ no anti-cheat is 100% effective, nobody is arguing that. However the tarkov anti-cheat is 0% effective. Their only method of anti-cheat is banning people based on reports after the cheating has happened and dozens if not hundreds of players were affected by it. Anti-cheat from other video games can detect Tarkov cheats, but BSG can’t detect them for their own game. It’s ridiculous, not to mention BSG directly profits with every ban wave. Also the effect cheating has on the gaming experience in Tarkov is much more serious, which is why it upsets people so much.
I've gotten banned from the deadside discord be4 I ever joined it but not the game I just bought an only have 6hrs in it an never cheated played with a cheater an im not in any cheat discords I have like 7khrs in rust with no issues ever. Shits weird out there boyz stay safe much love an fuck cheaters ❤❤
All of this says bsg just wants more money.
Honestly like they said its against discord TOS. It also seems like a good thing to do regardless, its only a discord ban.
People complaining about it are cheaters.
That's a fat bullshit they know you're in cheating discord and they still can't counter the hack for me feels like the bsg behind the cheats 😂😂
Tarkov is just Slav Jank
It would be nice if they could fix the hideout in pve I can't upgrade Intelligence, fame wall and distillery even though I have the required items in my junk box. Plus they need to improve the PMC AI they wander without purpose and feel life less.
hideout is FiR in PvE too.
Play stupid games win stupid prizes lol. Don't hang around cheater discords and expect to not be associated with cheaters.
I don't understand, why waste resources into digging on which discord servers people are in instead of simply checking EFT reports or find better way to counter cheaters in the game.
like the fuckers with 20+kd less than 100h and 50kg atthe trart of raid but you know it's not proof for most
Because doing this discord stuff is basically free resources, it’s handled mostly by volunteers. Also, they do use reports, it does work. It will work better if ppl ONLY report those that they are sure about.
@@Jason-fy4sl saythat to the level 24 with 37kd an 15h of gameplay
@ sure, they could just ban them all but then the 1 legit chad will be banned as well. 15 kd isn’t impossible
@@Jason-fy4sl read properly
Just left all discords i was in even verybadscav discord servers also what happened to innocent until proven guilty ohh i forgot bsg is Russian
“innocent until proven guilty” is for judges and juries, not for discord server moderators, u absolute nitwit
Why i play solo would love to play with someone else's but how do you no the person isn't cheating sucks
Wish they'd focus more so on the invisible btr
I WAS WONDERING WHERE IT WENT! thank you
so stupid trying to appeal to psychology on cheaters... they just don't care... "if you cheat in tarkov bla bla bla consider not doing it, you need training wheels" that's just dumb as fuck... in Rust that uses the same game engine they need active moderators in servers to get cheaters, that's what tarkov need, a real person checking raids... to be honest that's the only thing that can actually do something
In Rust, the developer at least added an automatic ban for speedhacks and flying people (if your stats go beyond the norm). In Tarkov, the BSG philosophy is "I don't care about anything."
@Astywillson not ban, kick. And I've got kicked plenty of times for speedhacking because the system is bugged.
Never going to happen. Also, there are a fuck ton of rust cheaters so your point is worthless
@Astywillsonthe main problem with this is that tarkov has permanent consequences for getting kicked and rust doesn’t. those speed/fly detections are susceptible to errors when network connections get iffy. cannot express how many minecraft servers i’ve been kicked from for “flying” because my ping spiked to 500 for a split second. in rust or mc this is fine because you can just rejoin, it works to de-incentivize cheating whilst not negatively affecting legitimate players.
in tarkov you’d lose everything, which does de-incentivize cheaters, but also punishes legit players for something out of their control.
Noooooo, dont ban me on discord!!!!! Plsplspls!!!
single player cheating is just as bad as multi player cheating... it is a behavior, i will never believe someone who says "its only single player" nah, you cheat period!
yeah dude spawning in a iron pickaxe after you die in minecraft lava with full netherite is totally the same behaviour as using an esp and aimbot in a fps game
using the super jump gta cheat code is just as bad as vacuuming all the loot in labs in the first 10 seconds while your player model is underneath a floor
totally the same behaviour
what’s it like being completely and utterly braindead?
I also got banned because Im part of game modding community and its not even cheat related
Nobody cares, quit fucking w a good product
no you didnt.
BSG is fucked mate, I get mods for FIVEM server from mods discord. Only thing I have other than spt and I got banned. These guys can go fuck themselves.
Honestly good for them. Ban all cheaters from all games, period. Tarkov is a cesspool and they HAVE to clean it up if they wanna be taken seriously.
Every single online shooter is a cesspool.
@ForOne814 nah bro. Played plenty of shooters that don't have nearly as bad of a problem as Tarkov. Honestly sounds like some shit a cheater would say to make it seem hopeless.
@@captainchippie4454 what games, lol? Cuz for me it's the opposite, cheaters in Tarkov are way less annoying than in CS, for example, because most of them actively avoid players.
@ForOne814 Avoiding players? Go play labs or factory. They aren't avoiding anyone.
Fortnite, Valorant, Apex, Hunt: Showdown, just a few off the top of my head...
@@captainchippie4454 ah, I see. What you have is a skill issue. Cuz I did play a lot of labs, and the only blatant cheaters I came across were those floor sharks and vacuums. You know, cheats designed to specifically avoid players.
And you've listed cheater infested games, congratulations.
What is ANZ?
Australia + New Zealand.
WTF I was banned and I have no idea why...
i dont think the history has anything to do with it. i joined those types of servers to see who was cheating when i would play on the official server to avoid those people, because we all know the official server is riddled with those players. i started to play less tarkov and cared less about the official and left all those servers. i am currently scaving and i am not banned. i think it could be if you are active in any of those servers currently.
I got banned because i joined my own discord
Joining a cheat server to see if others are cheating because you see it as a mutual server is stupid, as it's self-defeating. How do you know the other person didn't join the cheat server for the exact same reason? If that is the case, then how are you going to filter them out? In that scenario, you don't even figure out if the other person is a cheater.
And cheats are cheats, someone who cheats in any online game does not belong in any other online game, cheating or not. Might as well ban them from all multiplayer games, they are scum that do not deserve to enjoy playing games.
Not really any point for anyone besides a moderator to join a cheat server to see if someone is cheating, because unless they’re a moderator, they can’t do anything about it to begin with.
Kinda shot yourself in the foot with that argument no? Upset you got banned?
Cheat Disords are NOT against Discord TOS. There is not anything related to that in the TOS.
It’s not a ToS thing when you get banned from a server so idk what your point is.
@@SaltSpirits Check the video and you get what im on about
if it was my choice, i would just rebrand the game and sell it as a pvp game, but its HvH hacks versus hacks. im not trying to be shitty, im literally looking at this game like they do, its just business. they cant afford to beat the cheaters, so just turn them into your main player base and cater to them. could be the first pro gamer game to focus on who is the better hacker, which would be interesting to watch.
that's funny because the eft discord is kind of responsible for me joining a cheater discord in the first place, when i first got a pc and tarkov i went to the eft discord to find someone to play with found a guy and he invited me to another discord that turned out to be a cheater discord was in it for about 6 months before i realized what it was. eft discord has probably done more to advertise cheats than the actual tarkov cheat discords themselves.
Sounds to me like you’re just calling yourself out. How tf are you hanging out w cheaters for 6 months…clueless.
@@Jason-fy4sl "i was in the cheater discord for 6 months before i realized" can you read or are you just stupid?
first!