Because the game fucking sucks 😂 they remove shit instead of fixing it, they fail to fix bugs, and has the most bullshit penalty system. They aren't gonna give you free car packs bro, get their meat out your mouth
The thing that you were saying about the Aston Martin Vantage tachometer being bugged, its not. IRL, some GT cars don't tell you to shift at redline, they tell you to shift a little bit lower because that's where the peak torque is and they will accelerate better
I agree that the game is not great and its boring, but if you think of Xbox players, this is the best simrace for controllers we have, ACC on controller is not good, so this is the best next thing, sorry we don't have GT7 :(
Tje reason the astons shift lights are off is because it is used for endurance racing and they also need to be more fuel efficient, happens with a few other endurance cars in other games like ac
Can anyone explain how the The Nürburgring took a month to get added to the game but also road Atlanta like there’s no way those two tracks took the same amount of time to get added into the game so there’s absolutely no reason why we shouldn’t be getting at least two tracks per month one returning to Forza track and one brand new to Forza track
If you didn't know, game pass is struggling so they're desperate to pad out content to maximize subscriptions if they have any hope of breaking even. I doubt forza motorsport is profitable yet
@@QRLSpoon no doubt, but it shouldn’t take a year to get Tracks Like Road Atlanta Bathurst, and The Nürburgring considering their fan favourites and the perfect example of a recycled track so whether you like it or not, recycled content is great and absolutely necessary
@@QRLSpoon you do realize recycled content means your fan favourite cars from previous games wouldn’t be in this new game. That’s the stupidest statement ever no recycled content? Are you sure about that?
Fm is such a huge downgrade . No city maps..They lied about the graphics , lied about drag, drift , lied about car sounds in their trailers and sad that fm7 had 30+ game modes while this only has 6 💀
I love Motorsport so much as my first Xbox game was Motorsport 4 with no dlcs or updates or online I beat the story mode like over 10 times which is why I try to enjoy this game but honestly it’s so bland and you can’t immerse your self in it at all
Do you want a Forza Motorsport with lots of everyday cars, iconic racecars and supercars? One that changes your car sound with exhaust upgrades, and how about giving you choices of branded upgrade parts? Also, a championship system with reward cars for completion, as well as a level based autoshow unlock system? Its all in Forza Motorsport 2......yes, a 2007 Forza is better than all the next gens. Downhill after FM4
I’m gunna be honest I did not expect to hear you say you love wrl here. I work with a team that runs in wrl, morehead speed works, and I never hear about wrl outside of other racing people and even then not often. Multi class endurance is the best.
Road Atlanta fun fact: The track was owned by Don & Bill Whittington from 1978 to 1993. During that time, they smuggled drugs using the back strait as a runway.
7:16 Translated by Google: The problem with Forza Motorsport isn't that the as-a-service model is wrong, the problem is launching it incomplete, recycling tracks and cars that were already in Forza Motorsport 7.
Let's make a video on how many race tracks are missing in gran turdismo 7 which should be included in the game from launch. Why wasn't there anything like that made about gt7?
@@bungwohliocars from gt sport didint need to be remade because the ones in sport was actully already built from scratch, fm suffers a lot from many outdated car models, and the problem is not just that they are outdated they are plenty of inaccurate models still left in fm since like 2005. Gt sport ended up with 338 cars, 336 carried over to gt7, there is another 200 cars thats is included in gt7 that was not in sport, and those are also built from scratch. Unlike fm, gt7 started with way more tracks from day one, and have got tracks in updates that never been in the gran turismo franshise before, fm updates has not got any new to forza tracks so far, and proably never will.
The stupid thing about not fixing the "chassis"-mounted 458 wing (RIP i cri evry tim) is that, if my knowledge of Assetto Corsa car models applies here, all they had to do is move the wing model for the chassis wing to be parented under the car body rather than the engine bay lid. In AC I had to move an antenna I added to a car in the wrong place, since it was on the boot lid and did not open with the boot (although to be fair I still can't figure out animating things like doors so whatever)
The return of my favorite track, the one car I've been waiting since release (Vantage GTE) and multiclass races, can't be happier. The changes to replays are great, cant wait for spectator mode, awesome patch
I feel like with the reward cars they should have available in the show room as well. Because say if someone misses the opportunity to get it as a reward you should be able to just buy it through the showroom. That’s what makes me no sense to me the fact that the cars come in as a reward which is fine sure no problem with that at all. But they should also put those exclusive I guess you could call them in the showroom for those who say missed out the first time.
The wheel physics are tons better plus no more irritating tyre wall chicanes and the AI are behaving better as time goes on to name a few, so as an Xbox wheel and track racer I'm just glad it's gets better even though their pre release lies are un excusable.
Eh for the AI idk Like rn with the new update, i find them more difficult to pass which is nice but they seem to be very aggressive and pushing you off or sticking to your car in the straights to get to their racing lines more so than before I don't think it's a very good improvement overall imo but need to try it a bit more
Game Devs: Cars like the C7 Corvette, Ferrari 458 Italia, Lamborghini Huracan... Also Game Devs: *Shows C7 and C7.R, 458 Challenge Car, and Lamborghini Gallardo*
I hope this isn't the end of Forza Motorsport, it's sad to see how tragic this games numbers are (excluding Game Pass etc) but they shot themselves in the foot 😢
Forza Motorsport is just FM7 with prettier graphics, slightly better physics and thats it, hardly any new cars....why the hell are we getting GTE cars as 'new'? They are obsolete now
Anytime I play career mode the game brings me to the Xbox Home Screen if I choose next series or exit after a race. Even the game itself doesn’t want me to play it.
Turn 10 should throw in the towel, nearly an entire year's updates just to get Forza into an acceptable state and still dog sh*t. And those car models...yikes.
i do miss playing forza motersport and been wanting to replay them games but im not sure if its even worth buying the new game or not. i been waiting a couple months after to see if the game would improve. Thoughts?
"built from the ground up" with minimal content and minimal to no effort to port old content. Knowing that, it's no surprise the playerbase is a fraction of what it should be.
Im not a Forza player, so please notify me, for how long has this bad update strike has been going on during Forza Motorsport's Launch? Not a hate question, i really wanna know
Honestly i quite like both Motorsport and Horizon, it might just be cuz i dont play either of them every day (i also play cod, seige and pokemon) but i recently bought a wheel and i really do enjoy both games
i kinda get the low player count, it's rare to have a game where you feel like racing online in A or S1 and not being able to just start the game and do that for certain weeks >.> it's okay when it's R or P but when it's X it's just pick a old F1 car or be leading the pack....that's trailing behind the F1 cars >.> my toyota eagle MK3 is pretty dialed in but it's just not enough to pose a challange, maybe hold a fire to the rear of the slower F1 cars :P and B and lower just kinda doesn't scatch my itch...9 out of 10 races
Turn 10 should abandon they’re failure of a game forza motorsport ‘23 and just copy paste the code from horizon 5 and adjust the physics and make it competitive.
When exactly are we getting promised features like drag racing and whatnot that was promised? It’s been nearly a year and not a single word on it. I gave up on this game.
I dk if bugged or just out of practice after a week not playing, but all my tunes I was using before this my self made ones , feel off mainly from a traction/grip standpoint. Anyone else?
4:33 ain’t no way they throw the gallardo and huracan under the bus like that wait nonono not a bus A WHOLE DAM TRAIN…. 5:18 tbf for me that’s literally a normal thing to happen when it comes to forza, most specifically ofc from slightly or just upgraded cars although I always wished the RPM lights adjusted to the cars upgrade and performance in a way
the problem with forza motorsport is that the only form of content is just racing. nothing beside it to validate. the racing is aimless. and singleplayer is just grindy and the ai are uninspiring to say the least.
@@midaignesvittu the racing just feels aimless, there's no sense of progression in racing, just aimless grinding for a car and credits. also to add with the horrible online matchmaking system and poor ai, how am i meant to enjoy it. i do enjoy racing on other games because it is actually good on there.
hey Nicky, in previous video about Xbox showcase you were asking why FH6 didn't show up I think the maybe later on this year or in Xbox showcase 2025 they may announce launch time maybe if that happened , they will launch FH6 on summer 2025 or later or even on winter 2026. yeah we know that this is too much but we still have to wait. it is hard for developers to make such a big open world game like FH5
I don’t think it matters. Real sim racers will never use Forza anyway, it is and always has been an arcade sim for kids. And I think it does that very well
The Aston Martin with the shift light issue. Just wondering but was the car modified? Because if you for example did cams you wouldn't be able to use the internal dash system. This is why I run a dash on my phone because once you do any modifications that increase the RPM range you break the internal dash in the car. I just put my phone or Chromebook where the dash in the game is. Phone if I'm on my PC and chromebook if I'm on my 100" screen with the Xbox.
I think most of the reason forza Motorsport isnt getting any recognition is because its on a new gen console and some people are still on old gen plus 70$ for a game with no new content cmon man
If you go into the Ferrari 458 GTC they just copied and pasted the sound from the 488 GTE instead of the actual 458 engine….disappointing developers🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
What's the thing with these Forza Horizon fanboy RUclipsrs who feel to downplay Forza Motorsport just because they prefer Horizon?
Maybe because Motorsport is absolutely dog water? 💀
Because the game fucking sucks 😂 they remove shit instead of fixing it, they fail to fix bugs, and has the most bullshit penalty system. They aren't gonna give you free car packs bro, get their meat out your mouth
Nah bro this game is just ass
Maybe because the game is really still not delivering an actual impactful update?
Your a skill issue because you prefer Motorsport
The thing that you were saying about the Aston Martin Vantage tachometer being bugged, its not. IRL, some GT cars don't tell you to shift at redline, they tell you to shift a little bit lower because that's where the peak torque is and they will accelerate better
Yes that makes sense
makes a lot of sense actually i always knew shifting at redline isnt always the answer
fm8 feels like someone made a forza motorsport from memory
In a game jam
Even if someone made it from memory, it would still have drag racing, split screen, airport, and some top gear stuff
@@falcongamer58 so you're hating FM for not being arcade like Horizon. *Rolls eyes*
You're hating the wrong game 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@Faustin-ju5dx your comment feels like you haven't touched a FM in your life
@@markuschief4472 false
Nick is _really_ creative and *unique* with his Forza Motorsport titles
Me trying to find a way to write “it’s not good” for the 100th time 😅
Reminds me of those who talk about mrbeast and try to get creative with their titles
You could say… he built it from the ground up
@@Billiamiscool 🤯
Say the update's ungreat lol. Ungood. GOODN'T@AR12Gaming
Watch update 13's patch notes say "We added a new rear wing upgrade to the Ferrari 458 Italia" and it's just the ACTUALLY fixed chassis mount wing
Nooooo, they finally "fixed" the 458 wing being bugged, I can't believe they did that. This game is such a massive L.
**removed**
Can't wait for Update 12 is not good enough as well!
I agree that the game is not great and its boring, but if you think of Xbox players, this is the best simrace for controllers we have, ACC on controller is not good, so this is the best next thing, sorry we don't have GT7 :(
Facts
Haha so true
ong i really dont wanna hate this game but it’s literally all we have as xbox sim racers. doesnt mean forza shouldnt step up their game tho
the fact that this was the result of the biggest gaps between motorsport games is absolutely embarrassing
Tje reason the astons shift lights are off is because it is used for endurance racing and they also need to be more fuel efficient, happens with a few other endurance cars in other games like ac
RIP 458 “chassis”-mounted wing
Can anyone explain how the The Nürburgring took a month to get added to the game but also road Atlanta like there’s no way those two tracks took the same amount of time to get added into the game so there’s absolutely no reason why we shouldn’t be getting at least two tracks per month one returning to Forza track and one brand new to Forza track
Drip feeding content = live service model.
Its tacky and I hate it.
If you didn't know, game pass is struggling so they're desperate to pad out content to maximize subscriptions if they have any hope of breaking even. I doubt forza motorsport is profitable yet
We should get "new tracks"…. Not recycled one.
Let be honest,all the new track should be there at the start.
@@QRLSpoon no doubt, but it shouldn’t take a year to get Tracks Like Road Atlanta Bathurst, and The Nürburgring considering their fan favourites and the perfect example of a recycled track so whether you like it or not, recycled content is great and absolutely necessary
@@QRLSpoon you do realize recycled content means your fan favourite cars from previous games wouldn’t be in this new game. That’s the stupidest statement ever no recycled content? Are you sure about that?
I can’t wait until the full game releases in 3 years
don't be surprised if t10 gave up by then and started from scratch for fm2
Fm is such a huge downgrade . No city maps..They lied about the graphics , lied about drag, drift , lied about car sounds in their trailers and sad that fm7 had 30+ game modes while this only has 6 💀
They Finally Added Multi-Class Racing In FM8 Since Back In FM4 When They Developed Multi-Class Racing, Nick.
just like pgg i "fixed" my relationship by leaving her
I love Motorsport so much as my first Xbox game was Motorsport 4 with no dlcs or updates or online I beat the story mode like over 10 times which is why I try to enjoy this game but honestly it’s so bland and you can’t immerse your self in it at all
Multiclass racing was featured back in Forza Motorsport 2
Nice update... also i was the one who said about f1 at caliboge at the start of the stream I'm glad you answered it
Forza players are just not ready for multi-class races…
The fact it was 140gbs for me to install this update
on Xbox sometimes it glitches out and makes you reinstall the whole game. It’s done it to me before with Diablo 4.
Hmm, maybe that,it's lovely waiting 4 hours for a game to re install for an update
@@Muxtxnglaughs in gigabit speeds...
@@CGGS_0 :( cries in 50 megabit speeds
@@Muxtxng (insert: Evil maniacle laughter here)
Do you want a Forza Motorsport with lots of everyday cars, iconic racecars and supercars? One that changes your car sound with exhaust upgrades, and how about giving you choices of branded upgrade parts? Also, a championship system with reward cars for completion, as well as a level based autoshow unlock system? Its all in Forza Motorsport 2......yes, a 2007 Forza is better than all the next gens. Downhill after FM4
I would really love the 992.2 GT3 MR being featured in a Forza Game...
I’m gunna be honest I did not expect to hear you say you love wrl here. I work with a team that runs in wrl, morehead speed works, and I never hear about wrl outside of other racing people and even then not often. Multi class endurance is the best.
Road Atlanta fun fact: The track was owned by Don & Bill Whittington from 1978 to 1993. During that time, they smuggled drugs using the back strait as a runway.
Might gotta get Forza motorsport now cuz road ATLANTA is 10 mins from my house
Get Nick to see this btw
Developers robbed us from having fun and laughing at the Ferrari 458 broken wing with the most soulless "fix" you could've imagined.
they shouldve kept the 458 wing in as an inside joke smh
7:42 Forza : chameleon edition 😂
To be honest Forza Motorsport developers have more skill issues than Nick himself
Removing the wing has to be the softest shit ive ever seen a company do
7:16
Translated by Google:
The problem with Forza Motorsport isn't that the as-a-service model is wrong, the problem is launching it incomplete, recycling tracks and cars that were already in Forza Motorsport 7.
Let's make a video on how many race tracks are missing in gran turdismo 7 which should be included in the game from launch. Why wasn't there anything like that made about gt7?
Idk, maybe because gt7 was actually built from the ground up
@@regularbloke2117 It wasn't because the car models in gt7 are recycled from gt sports.
@@bungwohliocars from gt sport didint need to be remade because the ones in sport was actully already built from scratch, fm suffers a lot from many outdated car models, and the problem is not just that they are outdated they are plenty of inaccurate models still left in fm since like 2005.
Gt sport ended up with 338 cars, 336 carried over to gt7, there is another 200 cars thats is included in gt7 that was not in sport, and those are also built from scratch.
Unlike fm, gt7 started with way more tracks from day one, and have got tracks in updates that never been in the gran turismo franshise before, fm updates has not got any new to forza tracks so far, and proably never will.
Straight up forgot Forza Motorsport existed. By the looks of things, the players and developers did too.
The stupid thing about not fixing the "chassis"-mounted 458 wing (RIP i cri evry tim) is that, if my knowledge of Assetto Corsa car models applies here, all they had to do is move the wing model for the chassis wing to be parented under the car body rather than the engine bay lid. In AC I had to move an antenna I added to a car in the wrong place, since it was on the boot lid and did not open with the boot (although to be fair I still can't figure out animating things like doors so whatever)
The irony. At 4:34 I got an ad with a toilet flush 😂😂😂
Where is the 2 player splitscreen racing mode
The return of my favorite track, the one car I've been waiting since release (Vantage GTE) and multiclass races, can't be happier. The changes to replays are great, cant wait for spectator mode, awesome patch
RIP Ferrari 458's Chassis mountain rear wing! ✝️
This makes me question fh6, don’t they use Motorsport as a testing ground for horizon?
It be pog if we had Nicks local circuit he goes to in his irl racing videos in the game
I'd love to see my local track in any racing game, Thomson speedway has been a very fun track in my gti
drifting and lobbies like Forza4 bring that back you'll see that number change
The only thing I want is for Forza Motorsport to have freeplay splitscreen 2 player like all the other Forza Motorsport games
FINALLY ROAD ATLANTA IS BACCK OH MY GOD ITS ABOUT TIME FORZA
I feel like with the reward cars they should have available in the show room as well. Because say if someone misses the opportunity to get it as a reward you should be able to just buy it through the showroom. That’s what makes me no sense to me the fact that the cars come in as a reward which is fine sure no problem with that at all. But they should also put those exclusive I guess you could call them in the showroom for those who say missed out the first time.
Yeah i agree, it's a shame for newer player not being able to get these limited time vehicles whatsoever
The wheel physics are tons better plus no more irritating tyre wall chicanes and the AI are behaving better as time goes on to name a few, so as an Xbox wheel and track racer I'm just glad it's gets better even though their pre release lies are un excusable.
Eh for the AI idk
Like rn with the new update, i find them more difficult to pass which is nice but they seem to be very aggressive and pushing you off or sticking to your car in the straights to get to their racing lines more so than before
I don't think it's a very good improvement overall imo but need to try it a bit more
Game Devs: Cars like the C7 Corvette, Ferrari 458 Italia, Lamborghini Huracan...
Also Game Devs: *Shows C7 and C7.R, 458 Challenge Car, and Lamborghini Gallardo*
I hope this isn't the end of Forza Motorsport, it's sad to see how tragic this games numbers are (excluding Game Pass etc) but they shot themselves in the foot 😢
Nah, Microsoft is trying to make this a live service game of the decade, like with Infinite.
0:43 actually a more common solution than you would think. although that is normally done BEFORE the game comes out.
For anyone seeing the shift lights in car for the first time, the lights in the car are usually right.
This is why I don’t play FM 8 at all
Seeing my home track get some love from Nick is great.
Forza Motorsport is just FM7 with prettier graphics, slightly better physics and thats it, hardly any new cars....why the hell are we getting GTE cars as 'new'? They are obsolete now
Anytime I play career mode the game brings me to the Xbox Home Screen if I choose next series or exit after a race. Even the game itself doesn’t want me to play it.
What kills this game is the really bad feeling with a wheel
Turn 10 should throw in the towel, nearly an entire year's updates just to get Forza into an acceptable state and still dog sh*t. And those car models...yikes.
They almost made me think they fixed the 458 wing. Almost. But my memory isnt that bad.
Nice. Why fix a day one bug if you can just sweep it under the rug and forget about it
I like the Aston Martin🔥
I bet you that with the multi class racing, people in faster cars are going to ram all the slower cars off the road
i do miss playing forza motersport and been wanting to replay them games but im not sure if its even worth buying the new game or not. i been waiting a couple months after to see if the game would improve. Thoughts?
13,000 players, I just looked again, 24 hours its down to 600 players with 400 playing currently at 10pm at night..... Ouch...
welcome back to another episode of how we can break forza motorsport even more part 11
This game came out the same day as the Bathurst 1000, as well as sponsored it. almost a year later and it's nowhere to be seen.
"built from the ground up" with minimal content and minimal to no effort to port old content. Knowing that, it's no surprise the playerbase is a fraction of what it should be.
Road america>Road Atlanta (cheese bridge gang)
Ohoho I loved the Pennzoil Skyline way back in GT4.
Its a different version campared to what gt has always had,
Im not a Forza player, so please notify me, for how long has this bad update strike has been going on during Forza Motorsport's Launch?
Not a hate question, i really wanna know
Honestly i quite like both Motorsport and Horizon, it might just be cuz i dont play either of them every day (i also play cod, seige and pokemon) but i recently bought a wheel and i really do enjoy both games
Noooo the 458 wing will be remembered
i kinda get the low player count, it's rare to have a game where you feel like racing online in A or S1 and not being able to just start the game and do that for certain weeks >.>
it's okay when it's R or P but when it's X it's just pick a old F1 car or be leading the pack....that's trailing behind the F1 cars >.> my toyota eagle MK3 is pretty dialed in but it's just not enough to pose a challange, maybe hold a fire to the rear of the slower F1 cars :P
and B and lower just kinda doesn't scatch my itch...9 out of 10 races
Game feels like a beta but I play it
Let’s be honest I much prefer the Forza Horizon five update rather than the Forza Motorsport update
same here, man.
And I am the contrary: I prefer Forza Motorsports' more realistic racing, online MP, and more racing cars rather than slow city cars
Turn 10 should abandon they’re failure of a game forza motorsport ‘23 and just copy paste the code from horizon 5 and adjust the physics and make it competitive.
I agree
in b4 FH6 becomes like FM8...
Pour one out to the 458. It's so Joever
When exactly are we getting promised features like drag racing and whatnot that was promised? It’s been nearly a year and not a single word on it. I gave up on this game.
Didn't evem know the game updated lmao
I dk if bugged or just out of practice after a week not playing, but all my tunes I was using before this my self made ones , feel off mainly from a traction/grip standpoint. Anyone else?
4:33 ain’t no way they throw the gallardo and huracan under the bus like that wait nonono not a bus A WHOLE DAM TRAIN….
5:18 tbf for me that’s literally a normal thing to happen when it comes to forza, most specifically ofc from slightly or just upgraded cars although I always wished the RPM lights adjusted to the cars upgrade and performance in a way
you look like if Jameskii and MrBeast had a baby
Nick can you ask the developers for a c5 corvette la mans edition to be put into forza? 😅
the problem with forza motorsport is that the only form of content is just racing. nothing beside it to validate. the racing is aimless. and singleplayer is just grindy and the ai are uninspiring to say the least.
Because its a "racing" game, what else do you want to do?
@@midaignesvittu the racing just feels aimless, there's no sense of progression in racing, just aimless grinding for a car and credits. also to add with the horrible online matchmaking system and poor ai, how am i meant to enjoy it. i do enjoy racing on other games because it is actually good on there.
@@midaignesvittu FIFA is a football game, and that's not why it only has friendly matches and friendly online games
hey Nicky, in previous video about Xbox showcase you were asking why FH6 didn't show up I think the maybe later on this year or in Xbox showcase 2025 they may announce launch time maybe if that happened , they will launch FH6 on summer 2025 or later or even on winter 2026. yeah we know that this is too much but we still have to wait. it is hard for developers to make such a big open world game like FH5
It would be sick if they made drift update and collaborate with formula drift
Multiclass racing will be hetic they need to fix ghosting
I don’t think it matters. Real sim racers will never use Forza anyway, it is and always has been an arcade sim for kids. And I think it does that very well
Game is more broken for me after update 😅😂
They need to bring back nascar
100% they need to heck why don't ya add the next gen 7TH gen cars while y'all are at it
How about engine spacers and drift tyres
I just know the devs are bleeding crazy money on the Motorsport project and it’s actually quite sad to see. Hopefully they don’t mess up Horizon 6
The Aston Martin with the shift light issue. Just wondering but was the car modified? Because if you for example did cams you wouldn't be able to use the internal dash system. This is why I run a dash on my phone because once you do any modifications that increase the RPM range you break the internal dash in the car. I just put my phone or Chromebook where the dash in the game is. Phone if I'm on my PC and chromebook if I'm on my 100" screen with the Xbox.
I think most of the reason forza Motorsport isnt getting any recognition is because its on a new gen console and some people are still on old gen plus 70$ for a game with no new content cmon man
Not the wing😭
It was a nice stream also how’s the car coming along?
6:46 its actually 3 new cars because the Ferrari 458 GTC is also "new"
Nick and keep up the good work real true and I good the video real true 👍 😂
For the Aston Martin, the Forza redline is wrong, not the Aston Martin’s.
If you go into the Ferrari 458 GTC they just copied and pasted the sound from the 488 GTE instead of the actual 458 engine….disappointing developers🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
RIP AR12 Meme. You were deleted too soon.
Perez in D class
No no no Nick, Perez is the E class team mate. Multi class sounds sick but can I do a Le Mans, 3 or 4 class setup yet in SP?
Drift score is what I want to see