I’ll never forget sitting and watching One Man’s Dream with my brother (who was 10 at the time) and being a 10 year old boy he wasn’t super emotionally open or nostalgic…but he teared up watching that show and as we were leaving he said “it really shows you CAN do anything”. I think the more young people that can be inspired and have a connection with Walt Disneys story the better it will be!
THAT'S IT! That great film tribute to Walt did the "trick"! Keep showing that film AND exhibit! Do we need a 3D robot of Walt, honestly???? We don't think so! The real Walt Disney was recorded on films! Please, do showcase that and don't show off with a robot that can have failures ... in front of live audiences!
The best way for Disney to honor Walt's legacy is to provide quality and value for every parks guest. Maintain the infrastructure and be sure the place is clean. Make sure the rides run properly. Fill performance areas with performers. Do the extra "magical" things (*Magic Express*) that the other parks don't. Look, I'm sure the robot will be neat - but I get the impression that the man himself would be more concerned with the stuff listed above, than them putting him on a literal pedestal.
I grew up in the 1960’s, so I grew up watching Walt every Sunday and followed Disneyland and the WDW closely. So I get what Tom is saying that so many people going to Disneyland just don’t really understand that Walt was a real person who created all of this. So for me, this is great!
The new Peter Pan scene is great - simply put, it's gone from an outdated caricature of Native Americans to an authentic celebration of Native Americans. It's plussed up the attraction, a perfect elevation of the attraction.
I just don’t understand why cultures can’t be fun as well and may to be a cartoon. There are plenty of other cultures that are characterized in Disney movies.
I’m going to be honest the new scene is arguably just as bad when you compare it to the old scene. My sister works for a native school so I do have some exposure to the culture. The biggest issue with the new scene is the lack of the feathers. Being given a feather is a high honor, and in the original version almost all the Neverland Natives had feathers signifying their status and accomplishments. In the new version, only Tiger Lily has one. Showing the other Native haven’t accomplished anything and that only she is important. It’s kind of sad. And with how the Natives feel it’s kind of rude and feels like Disney is trying to force stereotypes on them. Why not show that Natives can have these massive accomplishments? And it’s coming off to me personally as very offensive as one of my sister’s students was murdered last week. He never got a feather. It just doesn’t sit right with me seeing this scene and thinking about that poor boy and the rest of my sister’s students and how they will likely never leave the reservation. That they will be trapped in this cycle. Why can’t Disney show positive representation of Natives to give them inspiration?
Sure, lawyers have a job but the idea that a free Disney + trial shields Disney from lawsuits for perpetuity is so absurd it makes Disney a laughingstock and appear just plain cruel. Existing law concerning retail tenants should have sufficed for their defense.
@@SafetySpooonDisney may not own nor run the restaurant, however they are the lessor and must have a pretty in depth contract, as Raglan Road is on the MyDisneyExperience App. and participates in the Disney Dining Plan. So, this tragic event is not directly the fault of Disney, but legally there could be some culpability.
In Marketing there is usually a legal hired to ensure a marketing idea/concept is legal to go forward. For a lawyer team at least one Marketer should be there to tell the lawyers before any announcement is put forth: "Are you nuts?! You have a perfectly fine defense already and that Disney+ legal idea should only be the nuclear option of last resort! It will hurt our brand which will cost money or give ammunition for attacking influencers or politicians."
I hate to tell you but inside every major corporation that has multiple entities, this is normal. Even with Apple who gets very petty at times. The problem is most folks do not understand that any corporation’s duty is too their investors - no one else. Years ago when Disney had these large annual meetings at the Anaheim convention center I use to go and it always stuck with me they would constantly refer to the corporation as “your company” (to us, the stockholders).
I was wondering about Ragland Road ownership. With all the media coverage this has gotten, I had to assume Disney owned it, especially since they used the Disney+ trial contract to get out if it. Rather than flat out say “hey, that’s not us.” they say “sorry, you signed a contract!” I mean, this is a PR disaster. At this point it doesn’t matter if Disney is innocent. “You can’t sue us because several years ago you signed away all your rights in a waiver” yeah, that’s not ok.
@@WDWNTI hope they get better and reassure them they are a valuable member of the team and their ability is a meaningful contribution to the production.
Yea, absolutely. This is the biggest issue I have seen with almost all cocerage of the allergy situation, nobody actually talks about how Disney has zero liability or responsibility over what happened, and only focused the specifics of their arrempt to get removed from the lawsuit, and not that they should never have been named in the lawsuit to begin with.
I’m not a lawyer but are we sure Disney has zero liability. They do lease the property to Raglan Road and their app was used to book the reservation and the menu on the app was used to order the food that was designated allergy free on the app. I think it’s possible they could get removed from the suit but I don’t think it’s guaranteed. The big question is if the suit is only 50k, why has no one settled this
@@johnstanczak8161 Only Disney owned and operated restaurants, on the website at least, show allergy free options on their menus. The ones owned by outside groups do not. There is also a huge disclaimer at the bottom of every online menu that the customer should speak with staff, but it's ultimately the customer's choice to eat there or not. This is an unfortunate situation, but the only ones liable are the staff that told her it was allergen free, and by vicarious liability, the Raglan Road group.
As someone with food allergies, thank you for bringing up how absolutely amazing and accomodating Disney run/owned restaurants and establishments are when it comes to guests with food allergies.. I have never been treated better regarding my allergies, than the Disney restaurants I have been to (not even my family puts in as much effort).
So true! My friend and I ate at beaches and cream in beach club a few weeks ago and he has a severe allergy to all types of nuts, so he can’t have peanut oil which is what Disney mainly uses. He told the server and she literally brought out the box of the non peanut oil to show him it was safe. They’re very considerate when it comes to allergies. My mom and sister have a gluten allergy, and every restaurant we’ve eaten at they always have a gluten free version.
They even link the allergies to your entire party for reservations. So when you show up at the restaurant, they already know about the allergies and bring it up first to double check. Was amazed at how much care and attention they put towards it
We had so much fun today! Glad we could make it to the right show this time! 😂 our spawn said it was nice to meet you and sorry for being cranky after his nap! Thanks for a good time Tom & Eric!
Not doing it at all would be the only respectful thing to do. There is no possible way to do it that isn't fundamentally crass, tasteless, and exploitative.
I’ve been to WDW 9 times and and DL once and have never had an issue with our families food allergy. Disney IS hands down the most accommodating resort/vacation destination we’ve ever dealt with.
As someone with an allergy, Disney has always been great. It is a major reason for why I go on Disney Parks or Cruise vacations. I do recognize the risk of cross-contamination or other possible error whenever I go to a restaurant. There is always that possibility of a mistake. Because of that, I always research the restaurant and frequently go to restaurants that I am comfortable with, often places with owners who also have allergies.
@@ethanshackletonAs an Arapaho, I can tell you it never once even entered my mind that it was offensive. I remember riding it with my grandmother years ago and she would laugh like a little girl and say “looks just like my grandfather.”
@@woooooooo9061 People, too red, sitting around a campfire looking grim…I guess. As I said, nobody in my family cared, but I know that’s anecdotal evidence.
Totally agree on the food allergy point. I’m allergic to tree nuts and every time I go to Disney Springs the staff is extremely accommodating and mindful.
I mean much in the same way that lawyers will add everyone they can to a lawsuit even those that are not directly involved, as in this case, in order to up the money that can be gained, the other side is that legal teams will do anything to get out of it. Honestly I'm happy Disney did this, because hopefully this will bring more of these crazy EULA that we're forced to agree to, I know I had to agree to similar terms with Google because I use their play store to add apps to my phone, and speaking of phones Samsung regularly sends me "we've updated our terms of service" that I'm forced to agree to to continue using a phone I paid for, but hopefully this spotlight gets these silly terms mentioned as illegal in the same way right to repair laws can not void warranties if a sticker is broken and it also makes it illegal to actually state that it is.
Absolutely right - Whoever exposed the Disney+ end user liscense agreement needs to be fired. Nobody reads it and it's been pretty secret (or unknown) for a while now. Whoever shined a flashlight on it really hurt Disney. It's much better that customer agreements and legal waivers stay OUT of the news and away from the public eye. Nobody reads these things and honestly, that's the way it still needs to be moving forward.
Agreed. Rather than say “that’s not us, that’s Ragland,” they said “you can’t sue us because of some obscure clause in a trial contract you agreed to on a streaming service we own.” Sure, it’s in My Disney Experience too, but Disney+ is what they chose to go with, and now their brand is horribly tarnished because of all the media attention this has gotten.
I love what they did with the Native scene on Peter Pan's Flight! My mom saw Peter Pan as a kid and she said she cried seeing the depiction of Natives in it (she was Apache, so I'm mixed). She would love this. I love it and am glad they didn't remove it entirely. When I brought my kiddo 10 years ago, I explained to him that when the movie was made, while it was a ghastly depiction, it was a snapshot of American history. At the time, non-Natives did not understand the entirety of Native experience. I was fine with it staying as is, because I assumed they would remove it.
I'm so happy they changed it. When depicted well, of course Indigenous people belong to islands, even fictional ones! Although, it does beg the question: does everyone in the tribe stay the same age forever, like the lost boys do? 🤔
I love the Peter Pan update. The animatronics are pretty, and Native Americans do have dances as the ride now depicts. A much better update than Pirates.
THANK YOU! Did they get the Lincoln family's permission 70 years ago? Or... every single US president for that matter?? Most presidents consider it an honor these days. The only reason Walt didn't want it, was because he was humble... he didn't think he deserved to share a stage with Lincoln. But he couldn't possibly have believed that immortalizing someone in animatronic form, somehow dishonored them.
I agree, the new scene is beautiful. What was lost, nothing. I think the new scene makes it better. I was 9 when Walt left us. I remember watching all the Walt Disney Shows (Walt Disney Presents, Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color , and The Wonderful World of Disney with my grandparents. It will be amazing to actually see "him" .
My adult daughter was diagnosed with Celiacs 8 months ago. We just did WDW and disneyland. All of the disney facilities are super accomdating. It was fantastic for her to enjoy a meal without having to stress. We intentionally did not do non-disney restaurants because its not clear that they are accomodating.
Heyyyy, born in 1987! And as someone from Kansas City, I made it my business to know about how he was fired from the Kansas City Star and that's when he dreamt up Mortimer Mouse, who then became Mickey! I agree, it's great to teach our failings as much as our successes. ❤
Hate to comment twice, but whatever! lol. I was born in 1987, and feel EXACTLY the same way you do about One Man's Dream, the living connection to Walt, etc. My father was born in 1950, and still remembers watching Walt on tv in the 50s and 60s. I grew up in Jacksonville, FL, going to the parks all the time in the 90's during the glory years. Well said, my friend.
I think the new look for Peter Pan ride is very nice. The original native segment was, I believe, meant to depict how children played “cowboys and Indians” at the time the ride was introduced.
I think it’s fair that people have reservations about the Walt Disney animatronic-especially his family. Frankly, the last several years have been kind of hit or miss with what Disney has done in their movies and even the parks, it’s fair that people are looking at that recent track record and getting a little nervous.
Also important to note, Walt Disney thought the world of Lincoln and built that initial animatronic to honor Lincoln. So I think he’d be tickled that his legacy lives on in such a way that someone thinks he’s worthy of that same honor.
I think if you have a live audience, you need a VO intro and you should consider showing the crowd during the opening as well. IMO. Keep up the great work.
Disney saying because you bought a ticket or signed up for a subscription purchase is 100% is Lawyer speak. Someone who's job is to lie for their client. Still, someone should have stopped this agreement from being used because it's idiotic to believe you wouldn't be eligible to sue for wrongful death because of the reasons above. The real argument is Disney is just the property owner and they have no control over how food is prepared by the renting business.
If Raglan Road is NOT run by Disney, why would DISNEY be saying you can sue us? That is messed up. I still think putting something in a streaming platform that if you use this, you can't sue us.
Perhaps Disney should require all coporate executives to view the Walt Disney Animatronic show once a year and help them stay true to Walt's vision. It's a cinch they have strayed too many times in the past years for the sake of the $$$, at the expense of the guest/customer.
People nowadays are nitpicking on everything… It’s just in many ways frustrating and you have to carefully select every word you say or otherwise you’re discriminating half of the world…
This is exactly what I always have said. This sensitivity stuff is needed on somethings and really goes too far on others. There needs to be a line of demarcation that is some kind of check-valve that stops things going to stupidville. Find common ground and display THAT. They never do that these days. One way or get a label. That is completely NOT being inclusive. Inclusivity and sensitivity is only for one side. If you are NOT on that side, they could not care any less about YOUR views, beliefs, thoughts, feelings, culture, etc.. That is the height of hypocrisy.
1:04: I'm a little confused, what does being a Disney plus subscriber have to do with suing the company? I've never seen anything on the Disney plus website that prohibits subscribers from suing the company should they see fit to do so. I'm saddened by this news and my heart goes out to the family. 4:09: I love the new Neverland Natives figures. I'm glad they decided to tweak the figures instead of removing them. This is what they should have done with Pirates of the Caribbean but I digress. 16:57: Tom, I don't know how to elaborate on what you've said because you said it perfectly. Like you, I have the utmost respect for Walt Disney and the magical legacy he created so I'm very happy to hear they are going to use archival recordings of him for the new animatronic. It's going to feel like stepping into the past, like walking into Walt's office and sitting down with the legend himself. Thank you for everything you and your staff do to continue that legacy.
The granddaughter hates the animatronic which is pushing creativity and discovery being anything anybody could do which is 100% at the heart of what Walt did and would do and this just baffles me. How could she possibly think he would hate this?
"People are offended by this and I just do not know how..." (Tom).... Welcome to what MANY people think about this progressive stand Disney has taken. Lots of the "sensitive" things are really stretching credulity. The "sensitivity" thing has to have a median to it. Meet halfway. To just scrape off something entirely is NOT being "sensitive" to ALL sides. The only correct thing is 50/50. Not 0/100 or 100/0. There needs a line of demarcation that is the limit on this stuff. Lots of the changes are just not credible. It is trendy band wagon jumping and trying not to get "canceled" by the progressives in power. Some people get offended. Okay. Noted. make SOME changes. 50/50. That is a two way street. Respect BOTH sides and not just the progressive side. Everyone is not just progressives. Respect that and find the COMMON ground. This is how we move forward. Finding common ground and DISPLAY THAT! 50/50 is fair.
I think you nailed it, regarding the Peter Pan update. Personally I preferred things the way they were, but I understand that times and perceptions change. And this seems to have been done very thoughtfully, and at a high artistic level. No gripes here, from an old millennial Passholder who often gripes lol.
You made a god point about keeping Walt's story alive. I wish they would do the same for Jim Henson and how the Muppets came to be. Turning some of the buildings near Muppet vision 3D. Like at Christmas time making the windows look like scenes from Muppets Christmas Carol
24:30 Great! More for me to talk to Disneyland about. They really ruined the experience on Tuesday. At least 25% of the rides were closed for the project or refurbishments. The rest of the rides: some of them breaking down and a similar situation at DCA. that day Disneyland became guest rude day. I’ve never experienced so much line skipping and ill treatment by guests. It’s really disgusting behavior. I don’t come to Disneyland for everybody to pay to have a bad attitude. More closures that means less people eaters and more bad attitudes from the guests.
If you have a life-threatening food allergy, honestly you should NEVER trust your life to a restaurant. Too many mistakes can happen even with the best intentions.
Disney most certainly can be sued for the Raglan Road incident. That’s why they are named and that is why they were using the Disney+ and Epcot arguments to force arbitration. (They have now announced they are letting the matter go to court). I happen to agree it’s unlikely Disney will be found at fault, but that’s for the court to decide.
Hesci Corliss, I spoke with you in the MoG line at D23. The turtle on the teepee represents “turtle island” which is North America. Mvto from a Mvskoke citizen
Glad to hear they will use his words. I watched Disney shows, Mickey Mouse Club and i cried so when i read the headline of the paper when i was 12 and he had passed. He does deserve to be shared with the future. ❤
My condolences to the family and friends of Dr. Swan. Was there more information about the Dr Swan's anaphylaxis? For example, did she have a history of severe allergies? If yes, did she have her own Epipen? Were questions asked about ingredients of the food & drink prior to placing an order for the aforementioned? The reason I ask is because I have food allergies myself.
Awesome first studio audience Tom! I hope to go one day soon!!! Question: at 20:38 you said, “…I get those are Walt’s wishes…” I know you said it fast and in context of your full opinion, but is/are there specific Walt Disney will or final wishes that you are referencing in relation to his parks and the company (even larger than just this animatronic)? If you could mention in a future broadcast when this comes up again that would be awesome; otherwise are there any reading/sources that you recommend referring to this point?
While I am still concerned about today's agenda putting words in Walt's mouth that would NEVER have come out - Seeing him in Audio Animatronic would be very emotional. Having grown up, after his death, seeing Uncle Walt on television every Sunday, he is a very important person in my character make up. This would be very cool...
I can’t for the life of me understand by anyone gets so upset over changes like this beautiful one in Peter Pan, that makes certain members of our community feel more respected, valued and seen! Like call down Karen, there is enough respect for all of us! Well done Disney
For 100 years, film with audio has been enough to relay what people looked and sounded like and could portray them accurately. Walt Disney was one of these people who was captured on film and is thus known by 99.9999% of people who know him. Nothing is gained by watching a latex mouth move. Lincoln, on the other hand, has no such reference.
This restaurant is in no way connected with our company, but our Disney + subscription say you have to use our Arbitration? You can’t say we are not involved then use buying a ticket with your company or our using a trial period streaming service to absolve you of any responsibility !
For me it's not about one scene on one ride. It is their complete recent push of nonsense. They lost me when the changes the pre-fireworks message away from "..ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls of all ages..."
First off, I liked the large pictures of musicians on the wall at all star music. Especially The Beatles one. 😉 Kids could've looked at the pictures and asked their parents 'who's that and maybe started a discussion about music. Second, in regards to the Walt animatronic, I wonder if the imagineers could project his face onto it (like they've done to the Frozen ones) to make it even more lifelike.
7:58 yeah I think the update is appropriate for Peter Pan. Pirates: they shouldn’t have erased history. What they probably should’ve done instead is maybe change a scene to one about women pirates. That would’ve been appropriate instead of racing history on Pirates.
Disney should have filed for summary judgment, not pull up a microscopic clause in an irrelevant streaming service contract no one reads. Lawyers are going to lawyer, but this was stupid lawyering, and even stupider PR.
I was the one on X who said that. It’s true to me, the Pirates change was so weird. I feel like Disney should have completely redone that scene or even just make the auction about something else like selling stolen goods. How they went about it is incredibly weird.
Point 1: if Disney is confident they are not liable in the wrongful death suit, then why would they rely on a Disney+ clause to cover their ass? Point 2: the PP update sucks and you know it. Ever since you received a Disney press pass, you sure have become more bias in your reporting.
24:37 I’m sitting in the restaurant right across from the Jungle Cruise at Disneyland right now, it’s really funny seeing the entrance on the video and then immediately seeing it upon looking up 😂
Y'all seem to forget that the indians live in Neverland not the real world. They weren't supposed to represent real indians. It's a cartoon and fictional. There was no need to change the scene. It just looks weird to see modern real world indians in a fictional land.
I’ll never forget sitting and watching One Man’s Dream with my brother (who was 10 at the time) and being a 10 year old boy he wasn’t super emotionally open or nostalgic…but he teared up watching that show and as we were leaving he said “it really shows you CAN do anything”. I think the more young people that can be inspired and have a connection with Walt Disneys story the better it will be!
THAT'S IT! That great film tribute to Walt did the "trick"! Keep showing that film AND exhibit! Do we need a 3D robot of Walt, honestly???? We don't think so! The real Walt Disney was recorded on films! Please, do showcase that and don't show off with a robot that can have failures ... in front of live audiences!
The best way for Disney to honor Walt's legacy is to provide quality and value for every parks guest. Maintain the infrastructure and be sure the place is clean. Make sure the rides run properly. Fill performance areas with performers. Do the extra "magical" things (*Magic Express*) that the other parks don't. Look, I'm sure the robot will be neat - but I get the impression that the man himself would be more concerned with the stuff listed above, than them putting him on a literal pedestal.
IU actually find it creepy.
Here we go with the whining
I grew up in the 1960’s, so I grew up watching Walt every Sunday and followed Disneyland and the WDW closely. So I get what Tom is saying that so many people going to Disneyland just don’t really understand that Walt was a real person who created all of this. So for me, this is great!
The new Peter Pan scene is great - simply put, it's gone from an outdated caricature of Native Americans to an authentic celebration of Native Americans. It's plussed up the attraction, a perfect elevation of the attraction.
shhh.. don't you dare let conservatives hear you say that lol
@@sknight8621 so true! They don't like progress. They like to stay backwards.
yeah i feel like this is a small win it makes everyone happy. There are still native americans and it just looks better while it looks similar.
I just don’t understand why cultures can’t be fun as well and may to be a cartoon. There are plenty of other cultures that are characterized in Disney movies.
I’m going to be honest the new scene is arguably just as bad when you compare it to the old scene.
My sister works for a native school so I do have some exposure to the culture. The biggest issue with the new scene is the lack of the feathers.
Being given a feather is a high honor, and in the original version almost all the Neverland Natives had feathers signifying their status and accomplishments.
In the new version, only Tiger Lily has one. Showing the other Native haven’t accomplished anything and that only she is important.
It’s kind of sad. And with how the Natives feel it’s kind of rude and feels like Disney is trying to force stereotypes on them. Why not show that Natives can have these massive accomplishments?
And it’s coming off to me personally as very offensive as one of my sister’s students was murdered last week. He never got a feather. It just doesn’t sit right with me seeing this scene and thinking about that poor boy and the rest of my sister’s students and how they will likely never leave the reservation. That they will be trapped in this cycle.
Why can’t Disney show positive representation of Natives to give them inspiration?
Sure, lawyers have a job but the idea that a free Disney + trial shields Disney from lawsuits for perpetuity is so absurd it makes Disney a laughingstock and appear just plain cruel. Existing law concerning retail tenants should have sufficed for their defense.
But what shields Disney from this lawsuit is that Disney neither owns nor runs the restaurant.
@@SafetySpooonDisney may not own nor run the restaurant, however they are the lessor and must have a pretty in depth contract, as Raglan Road is on the MyDisneyExperience App. and participates in the Disney Dining Plan. So, this tragic event is not directly the fault of Disney, but legally there could be some culpability.
In Marketing there is usually a legal hired to ensure a marketing idea/concept is legal to go forward.
For a lawyer team at least one Marketer should be there to tell the lawyers before any announcement is put forth: "Are you nuts?! You have a perfectly fine defense already and that Disney+ legal idea should only be the nuclear option of last resort! It will hurt our brand which will cost money or give ammunition for attacking influencers or politicians."
I hate to tell you but inside every major corporation that has multiple entities, this is normal. Even with Apple who gets very petty at times. The problem is most folks do not understand that any corporation’s duty is too their investors - no one else. Years ago when Disney had these large annual meetings at the Anaheim convention center I use to go and it always stuck with me they would constantly refer to the corporation as “your company” (to us, the stockholders).
I was wondering about Ragland Road ownership. With all the media coverage this has gotten, I had to assume Disney owned it, especially since they used the Disney+ trial contract to get out if it. Rather than flat out say “hey, that’s not us.” they say “sorry, you signed a contract!” I mean, this is a PR disaster. At this point it doesn’t matter if Disney is innocent. “You can’t sue us because several years ago you signed away all your rights in a waiver” yeah, that’s not ok.
Change appears to be good. Hopefully, Disney employed actual native cultural experts of native origin.
The new native american scene looks beautiful, playful even.Glad it was kept and improved
I love that Tom now has someone else with him to laugh at his jokes instead of him always laughing at his own jokes
The audio quality is way worse than normal. Might have someone take a look. 1:37
Agreed. Love the live news! Something is up with the audio quality though.
Yup, we had an callout due to illness and did what we could
@@WDWNTI need a gig if you all need help!
Sound like microphone placement and definitely over modulation
@@WDWNTI hope they get better and reassure them they are a valuable member of the team and their ability is a meaningful contribution to the production.
Well said Tom. Thanks for the clarification on the allergy situation.
Yea, absolutely. This is the biggest issue I have seen with almost all cocerage of the allergy situation, nobody actually talks about how Disney has zero liability or responsibility over what happened, and only focused the specifics of their arrempt to get removed from the lawsuit, and not that they should never have been named in the lawsuit to begin with.
I’m not a lawyer but are we sure Disney has zero liability. They do lease the property to Raglan Road and their app was used to book the reservation and the menu on the app was used to order the food that was designated allergy free on the app. I think it’s possible they could get removed from the suit but I don’t think it’s guaranteed. The big question is if the suit is only 50k, why has no one settled this
@@johnstanczak8161 Only Disney owned and operated restaurants, on the website at least, show allergy free options on their menus. The ones owned by outside groups do not. There is also a huge disclaimer at the bottom of every online menu that the customer should speak with staff, but it's ultimately the customer's choice to eat there or not. This is an unfortunate situation, but the only ones liable are the staff that told her it was allergen free, and by vicarious liability, the Raglan Road group.
Yeah they did a good job with that, the figures are gorgeous
As someone with food allergies, thank you for bringing up how absolutely amazing and accomodating Disney run/owned restaurants and establishments are when it comes to guests with food allergies.. I have never been treated better regarding my allergies, than the Disney restaurants I have been to (not even my family puts in as much effort).
So true! My friend and I ate at beaches and cream in beach club a few weeks ago and he has a severe allergy to all types of nuts, so he can’t have peanut oil which is what Disney mainly uses. He told the server and she literally brought out the box of the non peanut oil to show him it was safe. They’re very considerate when it comes to allergies. My mom and sister have a gluten allergy, and every restaurant we’ve eaten at they always have a gluten free version.
Yeah sure they do........🙄
@@EPiche09 You’re so wrong lol, Disney cares a lot about allergies.
They even link the allergies to your entire party for reservations. So when you show up at the restaurant, they already know about the allergies and bring it up first to double check. Was amazed at how much care and attention they put towards it
@@BCFilmss Disney cares, but Ragland didn't, so THEY should be sued. I still don't get how Disney Plus is in all this since it's not a Disney place.
Am I the only one that didn’t have audio issues? Everything sounded fine to me
We had so much fun today! Glad we could make it to the right show this time! 😂 our spawn said it was nice to meet you and sorry for being cranky after his nap! Thanks for a good time Tom & Eric!
This “twinkle in his eye” thing is what I was afraid of. They’re probably portraying walt disney in a completely unrealistic light.
Archival footage of Walt Disney is an absolutely great way to bring the company’s founder to life in animatronic form.
Not doing it at all would be the only respectful thing to do. There is no possible way to do it that isn't fundamentally crass, tasteless, and exploitative.
@@ttintagel Sounds like you wanna cancel Walt Disney
The only fly in the ointment is that they can get this "Walt" to say anything they want him to.......
I’ve been to WDW 9 times and and DL once and have never had an issue with our families food allergy. Disney IS hands down the most accommodating resort/vacation destination we’ve ever dealt with.
Great to see you back here, Tom. And thanks for all you do 💯
As someone with an allergy, Disney has always been great. It is a major reason for why I go on Disney Parks or Cruise vacations. I do recognize the risk of cross-contamination or other possible error whenever I go to a restaurant. There is always that possibility of a mistake. Because of that, I always research the restaurant and frequently go to restaurants that I am comfortable with, often places with owners who also have allergies.
The scene needed to be replaced and the replacement looks great
Why? What was wrong with it?
@@woooooooo9061It was a negative stereotype, the new scene shows off the natives in a less biased manner.
@@ethanshackletonAs an Arapaho, I can tell you it never once even entered my mind that it was offensive. I remember riding it with my grandmother years ago and she would laugh like a little girl and say “looks just like my grandfather.”
@@tommloye4626what was negative about it?
@@woooooooo9061 People, too red, sitting around a campfire looking grim…I guess. As I said, nobody in my family cared, but I know that’s anecdotal evidence.
I like the live audience for the news. The banter and reactions are great 😂
Tom looks and acts more happy with the live audience!!! I like it❤
walt disney animatronic better be amazing lol
It won’t be
You would know
I thought that he didn’t want an animatronic of himself. Well let’s just hope that it’s better than the Tiana animatronics. Thanks for the video.
It will be creepy and disturbing.
@@Quaquadaquhow do you know? Oh yeah, feelings again. Lol
How the heck did they get Walt's clothes for his figure? Who saved everything in Walt's closet?? "I got his SHOES!!"
Im assuming they archived everything as soon as Mrs Disney and Roy allowed it
I mean his house is still around with as much original stuff in there as he had when he was around
Totally agree on the food allergy point. I’m allergic to tree nuts and every time I go to Disney Springs the staff is extremely accommodating and mindful.
Something tells me that whoever from Disney’s legal department that put out that Disney+ document is probably gonna get fired.
Absolutely, horrible from a marketing standpoint.
Disney + was already struggling to get new subscribers this will definitely weaken subscriptions.
I mean much in the same way that lawyers will add everyone they can to a lawsuit even those that are not directly involved, as in this case, in order to up the money that can be gained, the other side is that legal teams will do anything to get out of it. Honestly I'm happy Disney did this, because hopefully this will bring more of these crazy EULA that we're forced to agree to, I know I had to agree to similar terms with Google because I use their play store to add apps to my phone, and speaking of phones Samsung regularly sends me "we've updated our terms of service" that I'm forced to agree to to continue using a phone I paid for, but hopefully this spotlight gets these silly terms mentioned as illegal in the same way right to repair laws can not void warranties if a sticker is broken and it also makes it illegal to actually state that it is.
Absolutely right - Whoever exposed the Disney+ end user liscense agreement needs to be fired. Nobody reads it and it's been pretty secret (or unknown) for a while now. Whoever shined a flashlight on it really hurt Disney. It's much better that customer agreements and legal waivers stay OUT of the news and away from the public eye. Nobody reads these things and honestly, that's the way it still needs to be moving forward.
Agreed. Rather than say “that’s not us, that’s Ragland,” they said “you can’t sue us because of some obscure clause in a trial contract you agreed to on a streaming service we own.” Sure, it’s in My Disney Experience too, but Disney+ is what they chose to go with, and now their brand is horribly tarnished because of all the media attention this has gotten.
I agree 1 MILLION %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% I can't wait to find out what happens at the end.
Thank you for your uploading video, WDWNT.
I liked hearing the audience reactions for the news!
I love what they did with the Native scene on Peter Pan's Flight! My mom saw Peter Pan as a kid and she said she cried seeing the depiction of Natives in it (she was Apache, so I'm mixed). She would love this. I love it and am glad they didn't remove it entirely.
When I brought my kiddo 10 years ago, I explained to him that when the movie was made, while it was a ghastly depiction, it was a snapshot of American history. At the time, non-Natives did not understand the entirety of Native experience. I was fine with it staying as is, because I assumed they would remove it.
I'm happy to hear that!
I'm so happy they changed it. When depicted well, of course Indigenous people belong to islands, even fictional ones! Although, it does beg the question: does everyone in the tribe stay the same age forever, like the lost boys do? 🤔
I love it too!
I love the Peter Pan update. The animatronics are pretty, and Native Americans do have dances as the ride now depicts. A much better update than Pirates.
1988?? All this time I thought he was older than me and I'm almost ten years older than him!!
I Still Have My Opinion Negatively Changed about Having a Walt Disney Audio-Animatronic after his Family Hated the Idea of Having it.
THANK YOU! Did they get the Lincoln family's permission 70 years ago? Or... every single US president for that matter?? Most presidents consider it an honor these days.
The only reason Walt didn't want it, was because he was humble... he didn't think he deserved to share a stage with Lincoln. But he couldn't possibly have believed that immortalizing someone in animatronic form, somehow dishonored them.
I appreciate your points in support of the Walt animatronic! I look forward to seeing it in person someday.
I agree, the new scene is beautiful. What was lost, nothing. I think the new scene makes it better. I was 9 when Walt left us. I remember watching all the Walt Disney Shows (Walt Disney Presents, Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color , and The Wonderful World of Disney with my grandparents. It will be amazing to actually see "him" .
My adult daughter was diagnosed with Celiacs 8 months ago. We just did WDW and disneyland. All of the disney facilities are super accomdating. It was fantastic for her to enjoy a meal without having to stress. We intentionally did not do non-disney restaurants because its not clear that they are accomodating.
Heyyyy, born in 1987! And as someone from Kansas City, I made it my business to know about how he was fired from the Kansas City Star and that's when he dreamt up Mortimer Mouse, who then became Mickey! I agree, it's great to teach our failings as much as our successes. ❤
I can't wait for the Walt animatronic to be plugged into AI, then immediately freak out about Iger's destruction of Frontier land.
Hate to comment twice, but whatever! lol. I was born in 1987, and feel EXACTLY the same way you do about One Man's Dream, the living connection to Walt, etc. My father was born in 1950, and still remembers watching Walt on tv in the 50s and 60s. I grew up in Jacksonville, FL, going to the parks all the time in the 90's during the glory years. Well said, my friend.
Live audience is awesome!
I think the new look for Peter Pan ride is very nice. The original native segment was, I believe, meant to depict how children played “cowboys and Indians” at the time the ride was introduced.
I think it’s fair that people have reservations about the Walt Disney animatronic-especially his family. Frankly, the last several years have been kind of hit or miss with what Disney has done in their movies and even the parks, it’s fair that people are looking at that recent track record and getting a little nervous.
I like the mural at All Star Music
Also important to note, Walt Disney thought the world of Lincoln and built that initial animatronic to honor Lincoln. So I think he’d be tickled that his legacy lives on in such a way that someone thinks he’s worthy of that same honor.
I think if you have a live audience, you need a VO intro and you should consider showing the crowd during the opening as well. IMO. Keep up the great work.
This was planned but had to be scrapped due to an illness
I was fearful about the Peter Pan updates, since I have A LOT of memories tied to that IP. Sounds like the changes are an overall plus!
Disney saying because you bought a ticket or signed up for a subscription purchase is 100% is Lawyer speak.
Someone who's job is to lie for their client.
Still, someone should have stopped this agreement from being used because it's idiotic to believe you wouldn't be eligible to sue for wrongful death because of the reasons above.
The real argument is Disney is just the property owner and they have no control over how food is prepared by the renting business.
Good grief
"but how can I make this change about me?" every white american ever lol
If Raglan Road is NOT run by Disney, why would DISNEY be saying you can sue us? That is messed up. I still think putting something in a streaming platform that if you use this, you can't sue us.
Because the people listed Disney on the lawsuit, they wish to be taken off
@@WDWNTCouldn't they just have used the "we only rent space to them" rather than the "you got a free streaming trial and can never sue us" defense?
The same guy that came up with the Disney+ defense is probably the same one that put the King George language in the special district hail mary.
Perhaps Disney should require all coporate executives to view the Walt Disney Animatronic show once a year and help them stay true to Walt's vision. It's a cinch they have strayed too many times in the past years for the sake of the $$$, at the expense of the guest/customer.
People nowadays are nitpicking on everything… It’s just in many ways frustrating and you have to carefully select every word you say or otherwise you’re discriminating half of the world…
All sides! 100%
This is exactly what I always have said. This sensitivity stuff is needed on somethings and really goes too far on others. There needs to be a line of demarcation that is some kind of check-valve that stops things going to stupidville. Find common ground and display THAT. They never do that these days. One way or get a label. That is completely NOT being inclusive. Inclusivity and sensitivity is only for one side. If you are NOT on that side, they could not care any less about YOUR views, beliefs, thoughts, feelings, culture, etc.. That is the height of hypocrisy.
Tom you do well in front of the live audience 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
1:04: I'm a little confused, what does being a Disney plus subscriber have to do with suing the company? I've never seen anything on the Disney plus website that prohibits subscribers from suing the company should they see fit to do so. I'm saddened by this news and my heart goes out to the family.
4:09: I love the new Neverland Natives figures. I'm glad they decided to tweak the figures instead of removing them. This is what they should have done with Pirates of the Caribbean but I digress.
16:57: Tom, I don't know how to elaborate on what you've said because you said it perfectly. Like you, I have the utmost respect for Walt Disney and the magical legacy he created so I'm very happy to hear they are going to use archival recordings of him for the new animatronic. It's going to feel like stepping into the past, like walking into Walt's office and sitting down with the legend himself. Thank you for everything you and your staff do to continue that legacy.
My daughter and I had a great time. Thank you so much Tom and Eric
The granddaughter hates the animatronic which is pushing creativity and discovery being anything anybody could do which is 100% at the heart of what Walt did and would do and this just baffles me. How could she possibly think he would hate this?
"People are offended by this and I just do not know how..." (Tom).... Welcome to what MANY people think about this progressive stand Disney has taken. Lots of the "sensitive" things are really stretching credulity. The "sensitivity" thing has to have a median to it. Meet halfway. To just scrape off something entirely is NOT being "sensitive" to ALL sides. The only correct thing is 50/50. Not 0/100 or 100/0. There needs a line of demarcation that is the limit on this stuff. Lots of the changes are just not credible. It is trendy band wagon jumping and trying not to get "canceled" by the progressives in power. Some people get offended. Okay. Noted. make SOME changes. 50/50. That is a two way street. Respect BOTH sides and not just the progressive side. Everyone is not just progressives. Respect that and find the COMMON ground. This is how we move forward. Finding common ground and DISPLAY THAT! 50/50 is fair.
He asked for 50k not 50 million. You pulled the emergency handle for 50k. Unreal
I think you nailed it, regarding the Peter Pan update. Personally I preferred things the way they were, but I understand that times and perceptions change. And this seems to have been done very thoughtfully, and at a high artistic level. No gripes here, from an old millennial Passholder who often gripes lol.
You made a god point about keeping Walt's story alive. I wish they would do the same for Jim Henson and how the Muppets came to be. Turning some of the buildings near Muppet vision 3D. Like at Christmas time making the windows look like scenes from Muppets Christmas Carol
24:30 Great! More for me to talk to Disneyland about. They really ruined the experience on Tuesday. At least 25% of the rides were closed for the project or refurbishments. The rest of the rides: some of them breaking down and a similar situation at DCA. that day Disneyland became guest rude day. I’ve never experienced so much line skipping and ill treatment by guests. It’s really disgusting behavior. I don’t come to Disneyland for everybody to pay to have a bad attitude. More closures that means less people eaters and more bad attitudes from the guests.
Yeah, but, where's the Chief? It feels weird that he's gone.
If you have a life-threatening food allergy, honestly you should NEVER trust your life to a restaurant. Too many mistakes can happen even with the best intentions.
Think of it like having preexisting back or neck problems and ignoring the warnings before going on rides like tron or especially space mountain.
The live audience is actually pretty neat. Id like to go some time. Hopefully it keeps up.
People saying they are erasing American history even though the scene still exists is peak 2024 lol they did a wonderful job
Disney most certainly can be sued for the Raglan Road incident. That’s why they are named and that is why they were using the Disney+ and Epcot arguments to force arbitration. (They have now announced they are letting the matter go to court). I happen to agree it’s unlikely Disney will be found at fault, but that’s for the court to decide.
Tom. I don’t comment much. I really liked your comments on Walt. Very very nice. Robert
Hesci Corliss, I spoke with you in the MoG line at D23. The turtle on the teepee represents “turtle island” which is North America. Mvto from a Mvskoke citizen
Glad to hear they will use his words. I watched Disney shows, Mickey Mouse Club and i cried so when i read the headline of the paper when i was 12 and he had passed. He does deserve to be shared with the future. ❤
The mic is HOT lol
The new scanning system looks like it will slow the process considerably, in my opinion.
I am excited all new rides are coming to Disneyland resort
My condolences to the family and friends of Dr. Swan. Was there more information about the Dr Swan's anaphylaxis? For example, did she have a history of severe allergies? If yes, did she have her own Epipen? Were questions asked about ingredients of the food & drink prior to placing an order for the aforementioned? The reason I ask is because I have food allergies myself.
I was worried they would take out the Indian Tribe from Peter Pan, but I'm glad they just changed it for the better.
Awesome first studio audience Tom! I hope to go one day soon!!! Question: at 20:38 you said, “…I get those are Walt’s wishes…” I know you said it fast and in context of your full opinion, but is/are there specific Walt Disney will or final wishes that you are referencing in relation to his parks and the company (even larger than just this animatronic)? If you could mention in a future broadcast when this comes up again that would be awesome; otherwise are there any reading/sources that you recommend referring to this point?
While I am still concerned about today's agenda putting words in Walt's mouth that would NEVER have come out - Seeing him in Audio Animatronic would be very emotional. Having grown up, after his death, seeing Uncle Walt on television every Sunday, he is a very important person in my character make up. This would be very cool...
Let's remember that Walt chose to appear on TV every week at the beginning of his show.
I can’t for the life of me understand by anyone gets so upset over changes like this beautiful one in Peter Pan, that makes certain members of our community feel more respected, valued and seen! Like call down Karen, there is enough respect for all of us!
Well done Disney
For 100 years, film with audio has been enough to relay what people looked and sounded like and could portray them accurately. Walt Disney was one of these people who was captured on film and is thus known by 99.9999% of people who know him. Nothing is gained by watching a latex mouth move.
Lincoln, on the other hand, has no such reference.
even if disney isn't responsible for this incident, if you subscribe to disney+ or, apparently buy a park ticket, excuses disney for negligence? naaah
This restaurant is in no way connected with our company, but our Disney + subscription say you have to use our Arbitration? You can’t say we are not involved then use buying a ticket with your company or our using a trial period streaming service to absolve you of any responsibility !
For me it's not about one scene on one ride. It is their complete recent push of nonsense. They lost me when the changes the pre-fireworks message away from "..ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls of all ages..."
First off, I liked the large pictures of musicians on the wall at all star music. Especially The Beatles one. 😉
Kids could've looked at the pictures and asked their parents 'who's that and maybe started a discussion about music.
Second, in regards to the Walt animatronic, I wonder if the imagineers could project his face onto it (like they've done to the Frozen ones) to make it even more lifelike.
Thanks for the background on the gingerbread man this was the first time I have seen him and I had no idea where it came from
7:58 yeah I think the update is appropriate for Peter Pan. Pirates: they shouldn’t have erased history. What they probably should’ve done instead is maybe change a scene to one about women pirates. That would’ve been appropriate instead of racing history on Pirates.
HEY kislux !! I have been watching you for years and im so proud of where you have made it! I love you so much! Also thanks for making my day
For me, the biggest news shocker from this episode : Tom is 36 years old 😮
I am glad they just left the scene in place , I like the animation that was added
What they did with Peter Pan is a definite improvement. Love Tiger Lilly dancing a circle!
So frustraed to arrive at WDW on Sept 16, just in time for the Jungle Cruise closure lol. But I'm happy to get to see the new Peter Pan scene!
This is sad some one died from the meal :(
you missed the fact that the Ollie pose on the TV shirt is the old Singing in the rain lampost and umbrella that you could pose with at MGM
Disney should have filed for summary judgment, not pull up a microscopic clause in an irrelevant streaming service contract no one reads. Lawyers are going to lawyer, but this was stupid lawyering, and even stupider PR.
Like the new scene but i think the chief should have been updated but kept in the scene
I was the one on X who said that. It’s true to me, the Pirates change was so weird. I feel like Disney should have completely redone that scene or even just make the auction about something else like selling stolen goods. How they went about it is incredibly weird.
Point 1: if Disney is confident they are not liable in the wrongful death suit, then why would they rely on a Disney+ clause to cover their ass? Point 2: the PP update sucks and you know it. Ever since you received a Disney press pass, you sure have become more bias in your reporting.
The waiver will not stand up in court, importantly the fact he signed up and she did not will be relevant here.
24:37 I’m sitting in the restaurant right across from the Jungle Cruise at Disneyland right now, it’s really funny seeing the entrance on the video and then immediately seeing it upon looking up 😂
Y'all seem to forget that the indians live in Neverland not the real world. They weren't supposed to represent real indians. It's a cartoon and fictional. There was no need to change the scene. It just looks weird to see modern real world indians in a fictional land.