Tennessee Agricultural Crime Unit Makes Demands on Horse Plus!
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- Опубликовано: 21 май 2024
- Tennessee Agricultural Crime Unit came unannounced to Horse Plus Humane Society and made demands! Their visit went from friendly and cordial to abrasive very quickly...
Let us know your thoughts about this visit, should we have handled it differently? 
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This is harassment
I agree.
Wow!! I was always told when someone is puttting this much effort into bringing someone else down, bullying and harassing ya’ll I wonder what they are trying to hide in Cooksville!! So you all are doing good saving horses from the slurred and apparently that is not allowed in Cooksville?! One wonders how much money horse plus, is taking away from these STATE Governments run offices! For theses offices to be harassing, and bullying horse plus rescue!! I am sorry but that office was beyond arrogant, this is what happens when one has to much power given to them with a badge! Tell me do they go after biclick (not spelled correctly )organization for abuse to the horses, or do they support that group?! That one office who was running his mouth sickens me and was a disgrace for the agricultural department of TN , to allow this behavior from one of their employees!
Horse plus, and their attorney thank you for standing up and knowing your right. Best way to fight a bully is to take away their power.
Done ranting!!
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It's likely actionable if it keeps up.
No it's not he asked to look at paperwork just show it to him but not doing that you make yourself look guilty
@@jer6162 He knew damned well they have 24 hours to produce that paperwork and he had no right to demand it immediately. Horse Plus is acting on the advice of their lawyers because all of this may come up in a court of law eventually, so they have to follow the letter of the law precisely. WHICH THE COP WAS NOT.
That officer needs to be fired, he likes indimidating people a bit too much.
Why don't you try doing the officer's job for a living----and then see if you still feel that way? You know nothing about him or his life except the 3 mins. you've watched in a RUclips video.
I don't think anyone should be interested in the officers life. That is off limits.. however it is entirely appropriate to judge on the minutes spent doing their job. Professionally judging. It doesn't matter what happens on any other case. It matters what happens in this case logically. He officer shouldn't bring any issues from any other job.Of course we are seeing a short bIt. My suggestion would be for horse plus to invest in a body camera so if the situation ever happens again one of the staff perhaps in the office can put it on and record the entirety. For safety. Of course if this is legal in the particular state..
@@stardust949 The way that officer is acting is actually a violation of his oath of office. He is acting in a way that causes public distrust of his agency, and could lead to legal complaints - causing disrepute to the agency. This is something that should lead to an investigation, and has actually caused officers in my agency to get fired.
@@stardust949 nobody is forcing the officer to do that job. Probably couldn't get into the proper police force so now he's playing out his power fantasies this way.
The law enforcement officer could have answered the questions professionally. Then he would have got what he wanted he was on phone with attorney. No reason for attitude.
Stinks of corruption and all at the poor horses expense as well as the appaling treatment of an amazing rescue
So who in the state political system is making money off kill sales????? That is the question. There is no other reason for this amount of harrassment you guys are getting.
Cucksville ? Very appropriate name .
Wow! Who knew the State Vet of Tennessee hates animals so much! She ought to lose her job!
You dont tend to get to higher lvls in things by having the qualities of a good loving human. Tends to lean towards. Sociopaths leanings.
It's all about money You are stoping evil people from making money .Now The evil people are coming after you . Stand Strong HorseHeros!You got this! This is a fight for precious lives! God sees your plan! Bob Barker saw your plan,you're doing good work.
She needs to be re trained in the laws!
Why don’t the state Vet attend some of those auctions and see the conditions of some of the horses being put up for sale. Or why the coghins paperwork not matching the horses being put up for sale?
@@pamtanner516 I guess no one is paying her under the counter to do her job ;)
Ugh that guy showed up with a bad attitude and acted high and mighty. He tries claiming he's being nice?! What a self important ass.
This.
Really. He’s like the Barney Fife of agriculture.
He’s just one big walking ego…
Typical Tennessee behavior.
They’re targeting you because you’re successful. reminds me of situation when somebody’s wallet is being affected🤔😜 .
That vet needs to be reported to her governing body. This is pure harassment !
I agree! It is immature and petty. How dare someone who is supposed to like animals be aiding in their slaughter!
@@kikimando2580money?
Well the auctioneer Place said that Hphs was the one castrating and gutting the Horse, who knows what kind of false Information and testimony they send to the agriculture department to get out of that mess…she probably think she does a good thing bugging HP…
I doubt the State vet was watching Horse Plus' Facebook page about the purchase of the horses in the Sams Club parking lot but I bet people associated with the auction were watching and they called their buddies at the ag department and then the state vet got a call.
These people at the ag department and the state vet need to take a long hard look at themselves and what is right.
Is the state vet related to the auctioneers?
This man needs to go to the sale barns and take his aggression out on people abusing horses. Transporting horses with false coggins. Transporting sick and injured and infected horses for food. Thats his job. Not hassling a rescue trying to save some. His priorities are wrong or hes getting a kickback somewhere. Needs investigated.
any of us can see that it is corruption; proving it will not be easy. All the auction people, all the traders and all the kill buyers are out to shut you guys down. They cannot do it as long as your legal stuff is in order, so perhaps they think if they keep has sassing you, that you will eventually just give up. They have no clue how tenacious you are Tawnee. Your in the right, both ethically and legally.
Barbrice, you are absolutely spot on! He needs investigating.
Absolutely!!! Correct!
Absolutely💯 Ride On!
If it's got a badge now days it's a criminal and even more dangerous a coward criminal
Surely this is slander/abuse of power/corruption/harassment.. shockingly unprofessional behaviour of dept of Ag, applying one rule to you and another to their mates
He was acting childish.
@@hphs does he have a boss to answer to? Please don't say the state vet lol
@@Ceretrea It won't matter to report these people. They're all part of the "system". The good old boy system!
I think the vet is dirty. Maybe time to check the background.
I hope you are taking legal steps against those idiots.....
So do they pay these visits requiring Coggins to all the kill buyers and horse traders? I seriously doubt it. Looks like harassment to me, especially considering the attitude of the belligerent officer.
Rude, aggressive, threatening.
You're only rescuing precious lives!
They should be giving you medals, not forcing you to retain lawyers!!
Seems to me Dr Beaty should get charges for filing a false report and needs to be fired. And if it's her job to protect and monitor animal health throughout the state she's doing a piss poor job.
WHAT AN UNPLESANT MAN that policefigure!!! 😮 If only they would spend their energy to go after the people that mistreats animals and not the ones that save them!!
I have seen what those horse haulers do to the animals. Horse plus is going thur what the SPCA goes thur with dogs and cats. Terrible they should not call themselves especially human.
They are probably paid off some how. HP doesn't have the money to investigate them. The money they have to waste on lawyers could have saved more lives.
Absolutely wrong. Evil plain and simp!e. So sad that this is what our country officials prioritizes. Shameful.
Sounds like the state of tennessee laws are a complete joke ,all corrupt and in the pockets of evil greedy people .
What a patronising bastard! I find it quite chilling - reminds me of those American films whereby local police are told to pressurise certain members of the public.
That vet needs to get a big fat subpoena from your attorney. As part of your literal federal case. That conduct is completely illegal and they will not stop until forced to. Oh, and don’t let state agents call you by your first name either. Make them show you respect.
The wonderful people at HPHS don't want to spend money suing anybody. Every penny they can use to rescue horses is needed for that and that alone. No waste on legal issues will be made, I'm sure!
@@rodandjudibowen5665 Generally, if you sue & win, the other side pays your attorney's fees. They may also have a pro bono (free) attorney arrangement. If they allow this to go on unchallenged, they may soon not be rescuing ANY horses!
@@rodandjudibowen5665 they need to do so. These officials are probably corrupt so are a danger as who knows what they could go and do next, they could even go and make something up if they are being paid off by the auctions. Those people/depts need to be sued, so those ones loose their jobs.
Wonderful have to defend themselves no matter what. This is their livelihood for the horses, employees, horses and all they have invested into their rescue/shelter. You have to DEFEND yourself or the threat and abuse will continue. Justice for them and the horses!
Just show them the papers.
This IS ABUSE OF POWER. this man needs to be investigated immediately NO-ONE reacts this strongly unless they are getting a very large meal ticket or covering some very dirty tracks. Disgusting behaviour from someone that should defending a charity supporting helpless animals that can't protect themselves. This man has No personal morals. Disgusting
Wow!! This is getting scary! What are they hiding?? The guy who was doing all the talking is an arrogant, condescending sob!! He's the ring leader with that attitude! The state's attorney should go to the auction to see if all the horses have coggins test. Reminds me of the movie Walking Tall, same arrogant demeanour. Stay safe.
There's a licensed vet at every auction that does coggins on any horse that comes to the sale without one. It's required by law.
When a seller goes to the auction office to put horse in sale, you have to present valid coggins. Are they checking to make sure the coggins matches that horse? Some do, some don't.
Legally, you can't take a horse off your property without a valid coggins in hand, unless you're on way to vet. Since there's a vet at sale, that qualifies.
I live in Tennessee and never had an issue. I've bought, sold, had dealers license, rescued with 501c3. I'm 58 have had horses my whole life.
I've even been pulled over once on interstate 3 years ago by Tennessee state ag enforcement officer and asked for proof of coggins. Showed proof and was back on road with no problems.
Under Tennessee law horses are livestock and our legal standards of adequate care are low. Local animal controls don't deal with livestock complaints, you have to file with state ag and they're the ones that go check for adequate care as defined by our laws. 90% of the time the owner says they just "rescued" that skinny horse and vet has seen it. Some officers ask for bill of sale and vets name and follow up. The rest take owners word for it.
I cannot remember how many horses you can purchase yearly, both at auction and privately before the state requires you to have a dealers license.
I'm getting disgusted about this group.. maybe we should complain about this crap
Can you file a formal complaint for false reporting against the state vet?
Your attorney needs to file charges for harassment & intimidation, specifically noting officer Rogers. His attitude needs a correction.
It's a damn shame that someone with big pockets is defending that horrible auction. It's hard to fight against people who are protected in shady deals with the law. Small town politics is the death of this country for people trying to do good. I lived in a small town and know all about these tactics.
I believe you are correct about "big pockets" putting pressure and maybe even bribes out there to hassle you as much as possible. Don't forget the Tenn Walking horse people most of whom are pretty wealthy, I would not be surprised if they, some of the traders, and many of the kill buyers in addition to the auction house as well are conspiratorially working together and someones palms are being "greased".
Same here. It's who you know.....
You’re exactly right Jan.
I'm watching from the UK talk about attitude problem unbelievable bullying.
I’m thinking that when you have the whole story you’ll find it leads back to your fighting to stop big lick.
My thoughts exactly!
I thought the same thing! As soon as the law man that came in and started being a bully the thought crossed my mind... Big Lick ties...
That's where the really big money is. And the best invitations to the best homes! Too bad the big money folks are just as awful as the trainers. Cruelty knows no bounds in this state.
Same thoughts here too.
Yes, Big Lick is old money and breeders who are *really* connected to higher levels of government through family, old favours, loans... who knows what else gives them leverage? It feels like the plot of a legal conspiracy thriller movie.
These people are just pure evil!
Weird cutoff on the video at the end. Anyway, I hope the lawyer is able to form a case because this is ridiculous. The buddy buddy system has to come to an end. Clearly the corruption runs deep. It's a shame the vet is choosing to lie.
Currently trying to fix that issue.
I wonder who owns that auction because the good ole boys are clearly harassing Horse Plus.Clearly the Ag dept.hasn't been doing their job at the auction since a horse was gutted.
They look ignorant,because they are acting ignorant.
Are these good ole boys drinking buddies with the auction crowd?
This is why I support you guys financially! You fight the good fight to save these precious animals!
I love your lawyer. Him wanting to be on the phone with you when you’re dealing with this man is awesome. God Bless him for being so calm is very impressive.👍😊
Good ol' boy's club. Time to sue that state vet
Love seeing animal rescuers stand up to cops and the abusive power structures to help keep animals safe. Great job!
Why don't those same "compainers" (that ever so important state vet)and officers visit the auction house unannounced and see what really goes on!! The good ol' boys club is alive and well in Tennessee! Horse Plus goes above and beyond in everything they do!!
Even if they did, they'd probably just ignore anything that was illegal.
They're likely getting kickbacks from the Big Lick industry and slaughter pipeline. So they're going after anyone who threatens those who butter their bread.
To me it feels like they are harassing you. Great choice on getting the lawyer involved and hopefully something will be done to keep this from happening again. No one needs to be harassed at all. You guys are doing everything right. Keep your heads up and follow your gut instincts.
If the officers and Ag did not have a list of horses they were asking for Coggins on, how would they know that the Coggins belonged to those horses??? ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE OFFICER!....Thank you for standing up for what is right...we need more people to do so in the country! Not disrespectfully by any means, but we will stand up for justice especially to those who are abusing the system!
This Auction Freaks have their Hands up pretty high in some local Law enforcement and Politics and it’s time to find out how and who….❤
I say shut em down.
I second that 100%. We all see it, and they don't get that we can see it...
@@HughLlewellyn now that is an ignorant comment. I’m from TN and not all of us are related.
@@thrustsnipeyy4421 You're right. I'm sorry. I do know that there are relatives in the officials and the auction though. I'll delete my comment. That was beneath me.
@@HughLlewellyn no need too. I know you were directing that insult to those idiots in cookeville. ☺️
If the government agency that is harassing you put half as much effort into going after the people that caused the terrible conditions of the horses and donkeys, there wouldn't be a need for you and your team to offer to buy out the animals, no matter what their condition is.
A truer statement has never been made. It's literally their job to make sure organizations like HPHS aren't needed!
Its very upsetting to see how much the state doesnt want you to save lives. How shameful of them
This is total harassment! I say follow the money. My guess is some of these auctions are paying those officers.
Of course they are, it’s a good ole boy system, biggest complaint I hear about auctions is the coggins does not match
Coggins requirement=Coggins match with a single horse, period. That requires checking that it does match the horse. These people are being paid off, plain and simple, and the strong arm betrays it with is behavior. The only problem I can see as a possibility is them scaring you away by accepting animals without a correct Coggins, when it is their oversight in the first place, then your problem with accepting the horse. What is the requirement of the auction in selling without a matched Coggins? I do know transferring a horse from state to state requires utd Coggins and some boarding facilities require it. With a State Vet like that the law is going to be skirted.
You KNOW THEY HAVE TO BE‼️ What a Perfect Example of BULLYING Using the Corrupt Legal System in that Area of Tennessee as a Weapon Against
Human Rights to Protect Innocent Animals from THE SLAUGHTER SYSTEM that is SOO PREVALENT IN COOKEVILLE,Tennessee‼️
It was Absolutely 💯 Sickening to see just How Scary 😱 this has Become & Soo CORRUPT‼️
WHAT is it Going to Take to STOP 🛑 THIS KIND OF CORRUPTION⁉️It’s like Stepping into a Hornet’s Nest of Thieves that Have Control over an Entire Town of CORRUPTION ALL the way up to the Government of AG⁉️😱😬🤷♀️
It’s like a Bad Horror Flick of Backward Thinking BULLIES that have gotten Control of the Total Legal System All Because They’re BIG Money SOURCE is Now in Jeopardy & They are Openly Supporting the ABUSE & SLAUGHTER of HELPLESS ANIMALS to Get it⁉️😬😱😬 How can this be going on in Our United States 🇺🇸 of America⁉️
WE ALL SHOULD PRAY 🙏 THIS IS STOPPED NOW Before it SPREADS‼️ This is TOTALLY 💯 BIZARRE but One Things for SURE; EVERYONE could SEE WHAT A REAL CORRUPT BULLY, Using a Badge,LOOKS LIKE‼️😂🙏😂 A Video Shows a THOUSAND WORDS‼️Take that to the Highest Courts of JUSTICE‼️I HOPE THEY STILL EXIST IN THAT AREA⁉️ Sending PRAYERS to YOU,HPHS And Your Legal Team‼️ ♥️🙏♥️
Do these two goofballs and that state vet go to all the auctions and run them through the ringer asking for all the coggins papers on all the horses they buy and sell? No? Didn't think so. They are doing nothing but trying to stop HPHS from saving horse from auctions. #Kickbacks anyone????
Im sure that one officer has gotten by in TN by being a bully and louder than everyone else. He interrupts and is trying to control the situation. This may be the first time he has been challenged like this. Good luck.
He knew going in that they had no legitimate reason for being there so he tried to bluster his way through. I'd love to know the last time they made a surprise visit to the auction demanding Coggins. I'm guessing it's never happened.
Tawni, thank you for rescuing all of those horses. You and your rescue do a great job. Keep up all the great work and keep saving all the lives you guys can.
Some money is exchanging hands here; the belligerent behavior of the State Department of Agriculture agent betrays that. You are being harassed. Grounds for a lawsuit, at the very least.
Thank you for sharing more of the experience, and the notice of who had reported the incident. Very interesting. I wonder if they checked everyone that day to be sure their trailers had Coggins for horses they bought
The State doesn't have enough manpower to even try that.
That state vet needs to be investigated as well as the people she has investigating and spying on you guys for doing a great job of saving these beautiful horses 🐴🐴🐴 I hope this ends soon for you.
I'm so proud of what you your doing to help out animals
How much money is he pocketing from these sick people .
He probably goes to KKK rallies with them.
This absolutely needs to be the core of a formal complaint. The way the officer and state vet are acting is a violation of their oaths of office and code of conduct. When they get their fancy badges they have to swear to uphold the public trust and not do anything to bring the agency into disrepute. This whole situation is the sort of thing that causes people to not trust the Ag. department as a whole, and could cause the agency a major scandal if it gets spread about in the mainstream media. Edit: I am a sworn officer in a Federal agency, and I have seen officers, even high ranked ones, get disciplined and even fired for behavior less public and blatant than this.
This officer is so angry with you because you are not bowing down to him
Yeah he thought he would get a different answer. One not including legal rights of people. Surprised he didn’t bring a German Shepard.
Since it seems the "Good ole Boys Club" is orchestrating this, I would recommend reaching out to a higher FEDERAL authority to spotlight the coercive methods of the state players. Federal authority supersedes state authority and must be followed. Your lawyer can do this.
So bring in the higher-up good ole' boys?? The Fed's are worse.
@@eury5405Respectfully, Eury, they are not. I've been in the legal world for 30 years. Seeking federal help is a remedy when states behave biasly. In this instance, state actors need to know big brother is observing their behavior and order them to correct it if incorrect.
I believe they have already done this, to some extent---the Feds told them the auction house has no right to ban them since it is a federally sanctioned entity (in some way, probably for interstate/foreign transport?). Last I heard they were still working on that.
They might have to file a Complaint in a federal court to receive the relief they so deserve. I'm sure their lawyer has a knowledgeable strategy for them.
If Horse Plus is incorporated outside of the State of Tennessee, they can bring an action to a federal court under the Diversity of Citizen clause. I would also explore Interstate Commerce laws for relief.
Watching from South Africa this is insane. The state vet should be fired. She does not have the best intentions for any animal. Disgusting
Have you heard what they do in the Eastern Cape in SA they blind horses and donkeys then race them .
And heavy betting is exchanged. ..ask the SPCA
Im so glad yr speaking up. The corruption is just so evident with those people trying to stop the rescues. The money is all they care about. When you rescue a horse they don't get no money. Tawney the way you keep your composure just bothers the law officer....lol
This is INFURIATING!
Fill harassment chargers against them so they have to go to court an expain why they are doing this maybe then it will stop
All good ideas but understand laws are different in all 50 states. Some states make it nearly impossible to contest the States OWN BEHAVIOR thru their sworn officers.
Or try to obtain a restraining order against that particular corrupt old man and that specific vet for harassment so that they have to bring someone else who might be less influenced.
Corruption at it finest. You guys are so brave. Evil horse world
You call a lawyer to follow the law!
Does the state of Tennessee know HOW BAD this make them look!
What is their deal?? They think your that stupid to not do EVERYTHING legal??? Sorry that they have idiots working as state veterinarian!!! They're not qualified for maintaining properwork themselves!!
Wow. I'm so glad yall are being so transparent. This is about to ruffle some feathers.
One thing about Horse Plus is they are transparent about everything they do
Are these people all corrupt? Absolutely shocking and it is harassment
Somethings fishy...
Sure looks like they are.
This is absolutely disgusting behaviour , SHAME on that SOB who was doing the bullying and harassment, because thats what it was. Sending love to all at Horse Plus , from Ireland.
Is State Vet getting backhanders from Cookeville?
Seems like it
That auction house in Cookeville needs to be shut down and since that officer knows it’s not “rocket science”, maybe he should know what the actual law, is giving a person(s) 24 hrs to show coggins. I also believe the state vet should be removed and replaced. People shouldn’t abuse positions of power based on biased opinions, which is what the officer and state vet did. I live in TN as well and am appalled at these “authority” figures.
Looks like a bunch of people need to go to the auction and start calling about buying a horse and not being provided for the horses they buy. Sadly, the only ones that would suffer are the horses! You should make sure you contact your state reps and maybe your fans should too! It's harrassment!
The kicker when they showed the first horse on the phone and it isn't one of the 6 from that trailer 🙃 They're really just trying to make it impossible for you to lawfully be in the right.
Yeah. They were really unclear what horses they were even talking about!
Then the obnoxious "officer" had the nerve to say it's not rocket science. No sir it is not, get your sh*t straight before you come in "guns a blazen" and being a total di*k.
What's up Tennessee? What's up with the State Vet?? Why don't they all go to the auction to see the horrors, and then we'll see who they side with!
He is a bully and was totally surprised when you got your attorney on the phone. That's why he became hostile. He is insecure when he is challenged with facts. I say, "follow the money". Someone is paying for this harassment hoping you will be deterred. Get an investigator and follow that money. Shouldn't take long. Is the auction owner someone's relative. Wouldn't be surprised at all. Keep the chin up and steady as you go.
Shouldn’t they be more concerned with people treating animals like garbage instead of people trying to help animals? Asking for a friend
no they all all about who is losing money because Horse Plus is rescuing so many of their "paychecks"
Liars! LIARS! And threatening you constantly these unprofessional Liars need to be dressed DOWN and taken to Court! Stand tall do NOT back down this Veterinarian SHOULD LOSE HER JOB IMMEDIATELY! Fight for the HORSES! I would love to face them in Court I've a spine of steel. Fight for the horses you have all of your followers supporting you.
unbelievable, just unbelievable. God bless you for dealing with the stress this is causing.... wow. Is there an Ombudsman that you can file a complaint against the State Vet? Here in Canada politicians and bureaucrat's can be held accountable for their behavior.
He would know that they have 24 hours to comply. He could be agreeable, but he’s choosing not to be.
He wants to intimidate. He wants them to get flustered. He wants them to rush so they make a mistake so he can nail them with something.
@@mmason9836 Exactly. Thug tactics.
I work with a department of Ag in another country. That guy was intimidating and needs to be retrained on interacting with the public. Write to you minister (if that is what they are in the USA) to complain about his actions and ask for them to explain their processes etc and why it was not told to you that you had 24 hrs. It will piss off the guy as he or his boss will have to waste time explaining or writing a response.
Excellent advice. And the obnoxious male (I'm not giving him the honor of being called an officer when he's clearly not up to the proper caliber) bully, began lying outright by denying it had anything to do w Cookville. On video. NOT a great way to start out. What a couple of good Ole boys who thought they could get away w intimidation & harassment tactics. And what's w the AG mouse? Can't she see what's what & call those yahoos off?? Ridiculous. Follow the $ trail & the truth will come out. Best wishes & keep strong. You have righteous truth on your side.
Those people who are saying why not just produce the papers, or explain everything, don't understand. Its responsibility of a government to act within proper procedures. It's not HP's job to explain to them what proper procedure is. Tawnee said, which horses do you mean, we have Coggins for all our horses, and we understand we have 24 hours to produce them. All perfectly reasonable. The ranting and raving of the enforcement officer was not a lawful direction and therefore she was not required to respond to it. She'd clearly been briefed on what to do. The lawyer on the phone was just a piece of "counter-bullying" so the officers felt a little bit intimidated in their turn. If you watch the video again you'll see that she acted correctly and the officers got nowhere.
Perfectly said.
The good Ole boy system is alive and thriving... Many blessings and prayers
As a law enforcement officer, he should be fully aware of all the required procedures and laws are... But taking the "it's obvious" route like he was immune from presenting the reasons and legalities of his visit says a lot. It was a bullying tactic, pure pressure on a group that's clearly got someone with a grudge going up against them. Selective inspections with no proof of the sales being "illegal" to begin with? So incredibly stupid. He doesn't want to answer questions because that's a power trip for him.
I don’t understand why people would rather have horses go to slaughter, instead of being bought, and adopted out to good homes, or if they’re not able to be adopted out then put out of their misery in a humane way. People would rather have them suffer, and killed in an inhumane manner. Look at what our society has become!!!
Their is rampant evil and wickedness in society
What can we do to help Horse Plus put a stop to this?
The officers were extremely unprofessional and hostile. They were bending the law into a pretzel (an illegal one) trying to make anything stick. This stinks of corruption from the Good Ole Boys club, friends doing favors for friends BS, wouldn't be surprised if they investigated and found kickbacks and other 'perks' like vacations mixed up in this.
Totally ridiculous unbelievable they should be going after the horrid people who put these poor horses in these situations not the angels that save them 😔
Is this guy at the auction in Cooksville checking every buyers to see if there is a Coggins that matches the individual horse? I doubt it. This is definitely harassment.
They are hiding something and they don’t want you all to save the horses because it’s preventing them from something.
Lord bless you guys and Horse Plus and I pray that NO WEAPON FORMED SHALL PROSPER! Amen!
Evil manifested
Wow. That dude was harassing you. He seemed to be refusing to have a dialogue and was just being a bully.
Looks like there needs to be an investigation of the lack of accountability for Coggins tests at auctions in the state.
The Ag. agent came in looking overly official, held his composure for a very short time and then started escalating to confrontation. His body language clearly showed his willingness and intent to harass you all. Further, when you tried to defend your actions, he verbally over rode you several times. And like a pissed off old lady, he hustled to the door and out. They we not there to work anything out, but to make you all look bad to defend their own actions. I am glad you recorded all this. Your supporters will have something strong to say about this intimidation. The agent should not ever be in a position to work with the public...period. A copy of this video should go up stream to his command and your supporters will have something to add, I am sure. It will be interesting what your attorney has to say and do about this all. Call your Sheriff about it, and your State Rep also. If you sit passively, they will be back to slander and harass. The State vet needs a strong talking to also. She intentionally defamed you all without knowing what was really going on. I do think that Big Lick is in this stirring the pot and greasing the skids. You handled it like a pro, girl.... Keep being legal, but don't lay down for this shit! You have an army of digital warriors behind you that believe in what you stand for! HPHS warriors share this video, write and email any one you think can help this wonderful organization.
Morris Rogers and Michael Whaley are shown here. TN Agricultural Crime Unit Special Agent in Charge Greg Whitehead, Agriculture Commissioner Charlie Hatcher, D.V.M, Special Agent Clint Brookshire Special Agent Cheshier Crihfield, Special Agent ACU Special Agents Chris Magee, Shane Keatts, Morris Rogers, Raymond Raper, and Michael Whaley.
The officer needs to follow the law instead of throwing his weight around, trying to intimate and acting like a two year old . Looks like he's got friends he's trying to block you from showing the truth... Thuggs with childish behaviour... Keep up your wonderful work, and hopefully, one day, more people will consider animal welfare, health, conditions, and the abuse they go through. ❤
Wtf. That officer didn't even give you an opportunity to speak. Immature and on a power trip for sure.
Something tells me that has worked for a while for him. 😡
U should take the auction to Federal Court where u would be heard!!!
email to the state of TN:
In the video I just saw, two officials from the State of Tennessee made an apparently unannounced, in-person visit to Horse Plus rescue group to request or verify some paperwork regarding a purchase of six horses. However, since the organization deals with many horses, and since they have a lawyer, their lawyer (participating on speakerphone) asked one of the officials to identify the specific horses involved in this request. Unbelievably, because the organization followed their lawyer’s advice about wanting more specific information, they were accused of not cooperating. This seems very strange to me because how can you give someone a document about a horse if that horse is not specifically identified? I am puzzled why authorities would not prepare an official written request for information and send it by mail or have it in hand when they make an in-person visit. I think it would be more professional and orderly for officials to deal with the lawyer directly in future.
I am very upset by what I witnessed in the video, which seemed to be rudeness, hostility, and intimidation on the part of one of the officials. I look forward to a successful resolution of this matter so that Horse Plus can continue their good work. Animal abuse must be stopped. No moral society can turn away from animals in distress or condone their abuse
He’s probably ticked the lawyer was involved but no excuse to be so rude. Interesting that no one said they wouldn’t provide the paperwork but he kept stating that was the case. This whole system seems like a good ole boys network
At the bottom of all bully-boy maneuvers are three elements: 1. Someone is making a lot of money by doing things the wrong way, so that they always end up taking all the marbles all the time. 2. The money makers are hand in glove with people in political and regulatory power, so that they form an “old boy’s club” for mutual self-protection. 3. They band together to steamroll anyone whose existence threatens their comfortable way of operating. The question for us all, as friends and supporters of HPHS, is this; what can we do individually and together to shine the bright light of state and national publicity on these bullies, and to convince those who are in power over the bullies that it is in their own best interest to back off and get out of the way of HPRS? I volunteer.
Penelope, it’s a tough one because, say we individually contact the state vet expressing our disgust, HPHS may get more problems from this ‘good old boys club’. I’m concerned about how low these corrupted people will go.
I think the way to go would be to contact the state representative and ask them what’s going on in this situation. It’s always best to go over the heads of these people and put in formal complaints there. Maybe we, as a collective, could write to their state rep and complain about the injustice there.
@@dreamcatcher3861 i absolutely agree that it’s going to take knowledge and finesse to have an impact. I’m starting by researching USDA regs in areas that seem to be related. This is likely to involve grinding down systems, which will be a slow process. No problem. I’m retired and I’m not going anywhere.
You need to get a lot smarter when dealing with these people. First of all, do not speak to them in person without a lawyer present. Being on the phone does not count. Second, if they need something, they have to communicate in writing. You need a written request with the six horses identified. Nothing should be done just with them coming by. Finally I would definitely refuse to speak to them unless they submit written requests- official written requests- just saying we want Coggins of six horses that they refused to identify is completely ridiculous.
Why would they call Sam’s club. Why didn’t they send agents? If they thought this was illegal activity, they would want to catch you in the act, right? It’s so stupid and illogical way of doing things. Yes, warrant and the specific horses. Just trying to push their weight around. Just because they are an authority doesn’t make them right in all occasions. Sounds like you’ve done all the paperwork before, why would now be any different.😮I’m so sorry.
Obviously Officer "slaughter man" likes to through his weight around, he would be out the door if he tried that here in the UK!
Hmmm sounds like he was about to say "You're interfering with our investigation" after he already said it wasn't an investigation. Sounds like the REALLY didn't like that you have a lawyer, and EVERYONE should consult a lawyer before speaking with police
I agree but we are trained to be nice and cooperate.
I used to live in Cookeville and Crossville and have never met a bigger bunch of corrupt government officials, including regular cops, anywhere else I have lived. If the Facebook page was followed so closely then they would have know which 6 horses were purchased at Sam's Club. All they had to do was come in and ask for the coggins on those 6 horses specifically. Not show a pic of just one that wasn't even purchased there. The fact that Tawny would have shown them the coggins papers if this officer wouldn't have thrown his temper tantrum and just shut his mouth, shows the level of self righteousness he holds in regards to himself.
I honestly have to wonder if the person selling the horses isn't the one who tipped the Ag Dept off. Time for some FOIA requests to be sent to the Ag Dept and find out what was reported, when and why there were suspicions of illegal activity. Then, time to go after the Ag Department
There was no reason for the man in uniform to act so unbecoming. All he did was use bully tactics by talking over everyone while slapping loudly on the desk. Jason, you were correct to feel they would have put you in handcuffs. I understand this mentality due to being a victim of domestic violence. The older man with mustache was escalating quickly when lawyer wanted him to supply names of the 6 horses. Be careful and you are in my prayers.
That “blowing “policeman or what ever he is, should be fired for not knowing the law and harassment. Because blowing bluff is not good communication. It is not truthful jus being a bully with no facts just BS
We know this goes beyond harassment, it is a demonic attack straight from the pit of hell against "those who love GOD and are called according to HIS purpose" Doing what they have been "anointed" to do for HIS creatures.
Exactly! Just pure evil!
Then perhaps Big Daddy would like to help out a little here?
So interesting. So I wonder what the connection is between Cookeville and/or Horse Plus and the
state vet.
I don’t know if it’s a state thing or a small town thing but protectionism is real and deep and, over time, a web of relationships can happen to prevent “outsiders”. I know it’s stupid, but there are small towns and cities in which a person is an outsider unless they are 3 + generations deep in that area. It feels like a cartel. It may be a cartel of profiteers around the horse slaughter industry. Keep pushing to clean things up.
How is there an Ag Crime Unit in Tennessee... and yet they don't give 2 hoots about the Big Lick? Tell me how that makes sense.