I'll take.being bored, anxious, or depressed any day over restlessly striving in a state of perpetual discontent with only brief moments of relief from our suffering.
I get Schopenhauer about always striving for something ''unreachable''. Still, I think that if people in general would just look out for the things that are the most important in life (to eat, drink, having a roof over your head and having meaningful relationships) and to drop almost all other things behind, the striving wouldn't be so bad and it wouldn't be very difficult to have moments of pure hapiness. Yes, it's an Epicurean view of life and I feel he was right, even more in our era.
I personally quite like summarisations, Philosophize This! It's good to refresh my memory and makes it easier to recall later. Sometimes I watch a video, or listen to a podcast, and then think "what did they talk about again?" It's typically the middle I forget. I don't really see anything wrong with summarising what you've said. Though if you could think of anything, I'd love to know.
Call me crazy, but, for a few sweet months, I think I achieved this ideal. I did my best to appreciate the beauty in nearly every moment of life, before I even knew of Schopenhauer, and that was the best time of my life. It is possible, guys, don't stop striving. I hope to get back to that place soon, and I hope you all enjoy your lives. (edit: I can't call myself a sage, although I did practice mild asceticism, based on my studies about the middle way and Epicureanism, but mostly I meant the hypervigilant awareness of beauty in everything in life is possible in a semi normal lifestyle. I should have been more clear)
Yes... there is Beauty all around and inside... There is so much to celebrate... And it’s liberating to me, that I can consciously choose that outlook onto the outer world and insight into the inner world (sorry my english is limited to find the exact fitting words). I sometimes use #beautyallaround and #blessedbybeauty ... and #artofseeing as hashtags to share and maybe Foster a view in that „bright side of life „. Right while I am listening to your talks, I am enjoying the blooming and blossoming of nature ... doing a Biketour through the countryside of „sound of music“-Paradise Salzburg... It‘s a conscious choice I make - to see and experience beauty... and I see you talk about this here... Yes, it is bringing about an experience of „present awareness in the here and now“ for me ... Feeling sometimes chronos turn into kairos-moments out of time and space ... I call it „DaSein“. Thanks, Stephen, for your truly awesome series!!!! Hugs from Salzburg.
Trophy's are nice but they just sit and collect dust and spiders, all u can do is sit and smile at them and they do nothing on the shelf no life no movement. Same thing works with life and possessions it just sits there and all u can do is look at it like a picture on the wall..
I got a glimpse into the nature of suffering a few moments ago. There's something vital to be learned about what suffering is and how it feels and would ideally feel if we gained absolute clarity. Unlike these philosophers who hit a dead end, philosophically speaking, like Schopenhauer and Wittgenstein, I'm finding that there's more and more stuff to uncover. Buddha was misguided and quite corrupted.
These are very important facts about life and maybe i shouldn't call them truth. Either way i have changed my opinion and now feel and think that there is something essential in reality to be discovered. I call it "ultimate knowledge", but with great care because this could be misinterpreted. Discard the word, once you you get a feel for what's being communicated (hopefully). I can never repay you, my friends! :')
I call it a dead end because they couldn't embody truth. I have immense reverence for Wittgenstein but he did the same mistake he.. i lost my train of thought. He said that he found many of the great philosophers to have made stupid mistakes which surprised him and disappointed him. He himself made mistakes of the same kind. I don't know how to quite describe it. The more deeper you go into truths the more fragile the process of thought becomes. Thought crumbles as you embody truth. And then you're left with choice of either embodying truth or continuing to think thus deviating from the truth. I hate how he brushed things aside by simply stating there are truths that one cannot speak of. The mistake he made, now that i remember it, is that he didn't bridge the gap between his mind and the world. I haven't either but i have recognised it as a possible path (actually it's the only path. it's the natural next step.) and am in the process of actualizing it. “An honest religious thinker is like a tightrope walker. He almost looks as though he were walking on nothing but air. His support is the slenderest imaginable. And yet it really is possible to walk on it.” ― Ludwig Wittgenstein His own words. Also, if you have to explain yourself then you are corrupted. Now, this could be because you are helpless against the flow of the world or it could be because you are afraid. I can't lie. I am fluctuating. ruclips.net/video/2om9tJsswKI/видео.html Pardon me.
To make it clear, he was right about the nature of truths and that they cannot be spoken of but he didn't.. idk how to describe it. I haven't done my work yet. And i REALLY shouldn't be speaking or typing or doing much of anything other than my work until i have discovered everything there is to discover. For a normal person, my burden would be insanity. But, for me over the span of a decade and a half, it has become inescapable. I realise how crazy this is but i can't let go because slowly it's becoming less and less crazy. I'm drawn to it like moths to a flame. This is what he lacked, i think. I think he didn't distinguish, categorically, clearly enough, in his personal life, between what are these deep truths that cannot be spoken of and what's attainable given considerable thought. He failed to realise that he could have done so much more. Now, is this simply because he had very few peers in the way of resembling how he thought and functioned, back in his days? I think so. I think if Wittgenstein were born today he would definitely have figured out everything. In the current era, we have so many resources to use that make life incredibly easy and i mean the sheer amount of info that we have access to. He wouldn't have taken it for granted, not even close. He definitely would have ended the vicious cycle of life as we know and experience it. He ABSOLUTELY would have found a cure.
But Schopenhauer strived to be a great philosopher and the ascetic life just made more time available to reach that goal. So he’s not the 1% ascetics mentioned since he was striving.
Kinda, yeah, but he included a lot of convoluted mumbo jumbo that can sometimes get in the way. No disrespect to him, it probably helped lots of Hindus feel comfortable believing in him, but Schopenhauer frames it in a way that modern Western intellectuals can appreciate. Schopenhauer also came to many of his conclusions independently from Eastern influence, which in my opinion speaks to its universality.
What did Spinoza restlessly strive for? Not much. Spent his life cutting glass. I guess he possibly had slightly more understanding of philosophy than you.
How can u be bored if u dont want anything. What does boredom mean? U are feeling tistless because u dont have something interesting to do. But if u dont WANT something interesting to do then u will not be bored. Why do people get depressed???? Because they feel inferior to others...the problem occurs because they want to not feel inferior. Where does the concept of feeling inferior come from...its just subjective. Its the wanting that causes the depression...ur philosophy is great in some areas but its very weak when u discuss buddhism I hope one day u work out that all our concepts of "reality" is just nothing more than conditioning. Gee now your mentioning Sesame Street in a Schopenhauer lesson...pretty sad.
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Schopenhauer hit the nail on the head with his philosophy.
Nietzsche refined it.
The last bit about seeking out or appreciating beauty as much as you can, really resonated with me. I think artists are people who are aware of this
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remarkable summary of Schopenhauer , thank you very much
All these philosophers go at the same spot but with different paths, they're all great.
I'll take.being bored, anxious, or depressed any day over restlessly striving in a state of perpetual discontent with only brief moments of relief from our suffering.
Schopenhauer got it.
Lol ... I live about 20 minutes from Red Rock in Vegas ... and, yes, it's stunning (for desert landscapes).
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Thànks a lot for this light on Schopenhauer...when is planned an other course?
I get Schopenhauer about always striving for something ''unreachable''. Still, I think that if people in general would just look out for the things that are the most important in life (to eat, drink, having a roof over your head and having meaningful relationships) and to drop almost all other things behind, the striving wouldn't be so bad and it wouldn't be very difficult to have moments of pure hapiness.
Yes, it's an Epicurean view of life and I feel he was right, even more in our era.
what do you think about asceticism?
Did it end abruptly just for me, or for everyone else too? Guess that's something I'm going to be endlessly striving to have answered...
I personally quite like summarisations, Philosophize This! It's good to refresh my memory and makes it easier to recall later. Sometimes I watch a video, or listen to a podcast, and then think "what did they talk about again?" It's typically the middle I forget. I don't really see anything wrong with summarising what you've said. Though if you could think of anything, I'd love to know.
Schopenhauer was probably like “yyoooo”
Call me crazy, but, for a few sweet months, I think I achieved this ideal. I did my best to appreciate the beauty in nearly every moment of life, before I even knew of Schopenhauer, and that was the best time of my life. It is possible, guys, don't stop striving. I hope to get back to that place soon, and I hope you all enjoy your lives.
(edit: I can't call myself a sage, although I did practice mild asceticism, based on my studies about the middle way and Epicureanism, but mostly I meant the hypervigilant awareness of beauty in everything in life is possible in a semi normal lifestyle. I should have been more clear)
It's like Nietzsche is Batman and schopenhauer is joker lol😂
OK, i really laughed out loud at 8:00. Good one
Was great, thanks.
I love the examples here
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11:20 dude, thats how it is! :O
"Playing poker around Shady Acres."
Planning to retire in Vice City, I see.
Yes... there is Beauty all around and inside... There is so much to celebrate... And it’s liberating to me, that I can consciously choose that outlook onto the outer world and insight into the inner world (sorry my english is limited to find the exact fitting words). I sometimes use #beautyallaround and #blessedbybeauty ... and #artofseeing as hashtags to share and maybe Foster a view in that „bright side of life „. Right while I am listening to your talks, I am enjoying the blooming and blossoming of nature ... doing a Biketour through the countryside of „sound of music“-Paradise Salzburg...
It‘s a conscious choice I make - to see and experience beauty... and I see you talk about this here... Yes, it is bringing about an experience of „present awareness in the here and now“ for me ... Feeling sometimes chronos turn into kairos-moments out of time and space ... I call it „DaSein“.
Thanks, Stephen, for your truly awesome series!!!! Hugs from Salzburg.
Schopenhauer's pt3 on his Aesthetics?
I am close to Schopenhauer’s perfected man. It’s not worth the trouble but it’s the best we can do.
Trophy's are nice but they just sit and collect dust and spiders, all u can do is sit and smile at them and they do nothing on the shelf no life no movement. Same thing works with life and possessions it just sits there and all u can do is look at it like a picture on the wall..
Being a "sage" isn't as difficult as schopenhauer made it seem. Once you find the right balance, it's quite effortless.
I got a glimpse into the nature of suffering a few moments ago. There's something vital to be learned about what suffering is and how it feels and would ideally feel if we gained absolute clarity. Unlike these philosophers who hit a dead end, philosophically speaking, like Schopenhauer and Wittgenstein, I'm finding that there's more and more stuff to uncover. Buddha was misguided and quite corrupted.
And these truths aren't something that cannot be spoken of. They're very tangible.
These are very important facts about life and maybe i shouldn't call them truth. Either way i have changed my opinion and now feel and think that there is something essential in reality to be discovered. I call it "ultimate knowledge", but with great care because this could be misinterpreted. Discard the word, once you you get a feel for what's being communicated (hopefully). I can never repay you, my friends! :')
I call it a dead end because they couldn't embody truth. I have immense reverence for Wittgenstein but he did the same mistake he.. i lost my train of thought. He said that he found many of the great philosophers to have made stupid mistakes which surprised him and disappointed him. He himself made mistakes of the same kind. I don't know how to quite describe it. The more deeper you go into truths the more fragile the process of thought becomes. Thought crumbles as you embody truth. And then you're left with choice of either embodying truth or continuing to think thus deviating from the truth. I hate how he brushed things aside by simply stating there are truths that one cannot speak of. The mistake he made, now that i remember it, is that he didn't bridge the gap between his mind and the world. I haven't either but i have recognised it as a possible path (actually it's the only path. it's the natural next step.) and am in the process of actualizing it.
“An honest religious thinker is like a tightrope walker. He almost looks as though he were walking on nothing but air. His support is the slenderest imaginable. And yet it really is possible to walk on it.”
― Ludwig Wittgenstein
His own words.
Also, if you have to explain yourself then you are corrupted. Now, this could be because you are helpless against the flow of the world or it could be because you are afraid. I can't lie. I am fluctuating.
ruclips.net/video/2om9tJsswKI/видео.html
Pardon me.
To make it clear, he was right about the nature of truths and that they cannot be spoken of but he didn't.. idk how to describe it. I haven't done my work yet. And i REALLY shouldn't be speaking or typing or doing much of anything other than my work until i have discovered everything there is to discover. For a normal person, my burden would be insanity. But, for me over the span of a decade and a half, it has become inescapable. I realise how crazy this is but i can't let go because slowly it's becoming less and less crazy. I'm drawn to it like moths to a flame. This is what he lacked, i think.
I think he didn't distinguish, categorically, clearly enough, in his personal life, between what are these deep truths that cannot be spoken of and what's attainable given considerable thought. He failed to realise that he could have done so much more. Now, is this simply because he had very few peers in the way of resembling how he thought and functioned, back in his days? I think so. I think if Wittgenstein were born today he would definitely have figured out everything. In the current era, we have so many resources to use that make life incredibly easy and i mean the sheer amount of info that we have access to. He wouldn't have taken it for granted, not even close. He definitely would have ended the vicious cycle of life as we know and experience it. He ABSOLUTELY would have found a cure.
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But Schopenhauer strived to be a great philosopher and the ascetic life just made more time available to reach that goal. So he’s not the 1% ascetics mentioned since he was striving.
Basic economics people have needs and wants they are two seperate things. If u want to be truly happy then stop "wanting".
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Schopenhauer: a guy that wanted all humanity to feel as miserable as he did. "Reject life to live life" my god, im glad he wasnt my father.
And to Steve: thank you for that Nietzsche twist at the end. It was completly necessary!
didn"t Buddha say this 2500 years ago.
Kinda, yeah, but he included a lot of convoluted mumbo jumbo that can sometimes get in the way. No disrespect to him, it probably helped lots of Hindus feel comfortable believing in him, but Schopenhauer frames it in a way that modern Western intellectuals can appreciate. Schopenhauer also came to many of his conclusions independently from Eastern influence, which in my opinion speaks to its universality.
What did Spinoza restlessly strive for? Not much. Spent his life cutting glass. I guess he possibly had slightly more understanding of philosophy than you.
Hmmm isn't "wanting" the problem? I think u are making some unfounded assumptions. Wanting comes from conditioning.
How can u be bored if u dont want anything. What does boredom mean? U are feeling tistless because u dont have something interesting to do. But if u dont WANT something interesting to do then u will not be bored.
Why do people get depressed???? Because they feel inferior to others...the problem occurs because they want to not feel inferior. Where does the concept of feeling inferior come from...its just subjective.
Its the wanting that causes the depression...ur philosophy is great in some areas but its very weak when u discuss buddhism
I hope one day u work out that all our concepts of "reality" is just nothing more than conditioning.
Gee now your mentioning Sesame Street in a Schopenhauer lesson...pretty sad.