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I'm Sunni, we believe that Abu Talib was Muslim, but it's secret, political strategy for Abu Talib to giving the protect to Muslim, to ensure the king post of Mecca post will not taken by Kuffar Abu Jahal team... Sometime we must hide the faith from the Kuffar under the crucial situation, it was like Ammar Bin Yasir tortured by Abu Jahal.. Sunni still believe that Abu Talib was a believer, but we cannot tell the secret openly, cause it is secret you know. Sunni are not Wahabis who reject the fact of Abu Talib faith. Abu Talib just do anything to protect our prophet! That is the truly faith! SACRIFICE you know! 😢 Sollu Alan-Nabiy... I love you so much Abu Talib 😭😭
Thank you Moulana , thank you team and every one who has taken part in this whole. I am a converted shia muslim and this series really helps me to understand and firm my beliefs... May Allah bless you all . Please continue to teach us. Once again Thank you for providing us that detailed knowledge about our beloved Prophet s.a.w.💖
As a "sunni" I love Imam Ali (AS) and understand that the Umayyads and the wahhabis have changed translations of even sunni books to hide many truths about Ahlul-Bayt. Excellent video, and I love my Ameer-ul-Mumineen Ali Ibn Abi Talib Alayhis-Salaam
Please share which specific references are required and we will add them right away. If you are asking about the poetic verses by Abu Talib, they are found in: 1- The Book Motashabah al-Qur’an by Ibn Shahr-Ashoob, volume 2, page 66 2- Seera of Ibn Hesham volume 1 page 352
All scholars agree that Abu Talib, the uncle of the Messenger of Allah ﷺ, took care of the Messenger of Allah ﷺ and dearly loved him more than his own children. However, although he was close to the Messenger of Allah ﷺ, he did not accept Islam and thus died as a kafir. This is the belief of the majority of the scholars of the Ahl al-Sunnah and is proven from the verses of the Qur’an and authentic Ahadith. Allah says in the Qur’an: “Indeed it is not such that you can guide whomever you love, but Allah guides whomever He wills; and He well knows the people upon guidance.” [Qur’an 28:56] It is the consensus of the exegetes [mufassireen] that this verse was revealed regarding Abu Talib. It is in Ma’alim al-Tanzeel (Tafsir al-Baghawi), “It was revealed regarding Abu Talib,” it is in Madarik al-Tanzeel (Tafsir al-Nasafi), “Zajjaj said that it is the consensus of the exegetes that this verse was revealed regarding Abu Talib.” Imam Nawawi in his Sharh Muslim wrote similar to this. The Hadith mentions the reason of revelation of the aforementioned verse [28:56]. Abu Hurairah narrated that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said to his uncle at the time of his death, ‘say there is none worthy of worship but Allah and I will bear testimony for you on the Day of Reckoning’. He (Abu Talib) said, ‘Were it not the fear of the Quraysh blaming me, saying that it was the anxiety of (approaching death) that induced me to do so, I would have certainly delighted your eyes.’ It was then that Allah revealed, ‘Indeed it is not such that you can guide whomever you love, but Allah guides whomever He wills.’ [Qur’an 28:56] [Sahih Muslim, Kitab al-Iman] In another verse of the Qur’an, Allah says: “It is not for the Prophet and those who believe, to pray for the forgiveness of polytheists even if they were their relatives, after it has become clear to them that they are the people of hell.” [Qur’an 9:113] It is stated in Tafsir al-Nasafi, “The Messenger of Allah intended to ask for the forgiveness of Abu Talib, so this verse was revealed that ‘it is not for the Prophet.’” Similarly, it is in Tafsir al-Jalalayn, “It was revealed because of the Messenger of Allah’s asking for forgiveness for his uncle, Abu Talib.” The Hadith mentions the reason of revelation of both the aforesaid verses; Sa’eed bin al-Musaiyab narrated, “When Abu Talib was on his death bed, the Messenger of Allah came to him and found with him - Abu Jahl and Abdullah bin Abi Umaiya bin al-Mughira. The Messenger of Allah said, “O uncle! Say, none has the right to be worshipped except Allah, a sentence with which I will defend you before Allah.” On that Abu Jahl and Abdullah bin Abi Umaiya said to Abu Talib, “Will you now leave the religion of Abdul Muttalib?” The Messenger of Allah kept on inviting him to say that sentence while the other two kept on repeating their sentence before him till Abu Talib said as the last thing he said to them, “I am on the religion of ‘Abdul Muttalib,” and refused to say, None has the right to be worshipped except Allah. On that the Messenger of Allah said, “By Allah, I will keep on asking Allah’s forgiveness for you unless I am forbidden (by Allah) to do so.” So Allah revealed, “It is not for the Prophet and those who believe, to pray for the forgiveness of polytheists even if they were their relatives, after it has become clear to them that they are the people of hell.” [Qur’an 9:113] And then Allah specifically revealed about Abu Talib ‘Indeed it is not such that you can guide whomever you love, but Allah guides whomever He wills.’” [Qur’an 28:56] [Sahih Bukhari: Kitab al-Janaiz, Kitab al-Manaqib, Kitab al-Tafseer - Surah al-Bara’ah and Surah al-Qasas, Sahih Muslim: Kitab al-Iman, Sunan al-Nasa’i: Kitab al-Janaiz]. In another verse, Allah says: “And they stop [others] from him (the Messenger of Allah) and run away from him; and they ruin none except themselves, and they do not have sense.” [Qur’an 6:26] It is stated in Tafsir al-Baghawi, “Ibn Abbas and Maqatil said that this verse was revealed regarding Abu Talib. He would prohibit and prevent others from hurting the Prophet, yet he himself stayed far from bringing faith in the Prophet.” Similar is stated in al-Durr al-Manthur. Abu Sa’id al-Khudri narrated, “A mention was made of his uncle, Abu Talib in front of the Messenger of Allah. He said, I anticipate that my intercession will benefit him on the Day of Resurrection that he will be placed in the shallow part of the Fire which will reach his ankles and his brain will boil.” [Sahih Bukhari: Kitab Manaqib al-Ansar, Sahih Muslim: Kitab al-Iman, Ahmad: Ann Abi Sa’eed al-Khudri]. Sayyiduna Ali narrated, “I said to the Messenger of Allah, O Messenger of Allah! Your uncle, the old and the misguided has died. The Messenger of Allah said, go and bury him.” [Nasb al-Rayah, Sunan Abu Daud, Ahmad, al-Sunan al-Kubra]. The version of Ibn Abi Shaybah is, Sayyiduna Ali narrated, “Your uncle, the old kafir has died, what is your view? (i.e. what should be done). The Messenger of Allah said, wash him and bury him.” [al-Musannaf li-Ibn Abi Shaybah] The version of Imam Shafa’i adds after the words ‘wash him and bury him’, “I (Sayyiduna Ali) said, O Messenger of Allah! He died as a Mushrik [polytheist]. The Messenger of Allah said, go and bury him.” [Nasb al-Rayah] The Messenger of Allah ﷺ did not object to Sayyiduna Ali when he used the terms ‘kafir,’ ‘Mushrik’ and ‘misguided’ for his own father, Abu Talib. Neither did the Messenger of Allah ﷺ order Sayyiduna Ali to conduct the Janazah prayer nor did the Messenger of Allah ﷺ conduct the Janazah prayer himself. If Abu Talib died as a Muslim, the Messenger of Allah ﷺ would have ordered or conducted the Janazah prayer like he did for the wife of Abu Talib, Fatimah bint Asad, who left this world as a Muslim. Al-Imam al-A’zam states in al-Fiqh al-Akbar, “His [the Messenger of Allah’s] uncle, Abu Talib died a kafir.” When the Messenger of Allah ﷺ proclaimed Prophethood, four uncles were alive; Sayyiduna Hamzah, Sayyiduna Abbas, Abu Talib and Abu Lahb. The scholars agree that from them only the former two became Muslim, the latter two did not. Shaykh Abdul Haq states in Madarij al-Nubuwwah, “Authentic narrations have established the kufr of Abu Talib.” Shaykh Abdul Haq also states in Sharh Safr al-Sa’adah, “The view of the scholars of Hadith and the Scholars of the Sunnah is that the Iman of Abu Talib is not proven. Authentic narrations mention that at the time of the death of Abu Talib, the Messenger of Allah came to him and presented Islam (i.e. asked him to accept Islam) however he did not accept.” It is in Naseem al-Riyad, “Abu Talib died on kufr, and the false claim of some Rafdis that he became a Muslim is baseless.” It is written in Mirqat Sharh Miskhat, “According to the Ahl al-Sunnah, Abu Talib is not a believer.” Abu Talib leading the nikah of the Prophet ﷺ to Sayyidah Khadijah is not sufficient evidence to prove his Iman, especially when there are authentic narrations that oppose the Iman of Abu Talib. At the time of the nikah of the Prophet ﷺ with Sayyidah Khadijah, the Messenger of Allah ﷺ was 25 years old. The Prophet ﷺ announced Prophethood at the age 40, thus the nikah to Sayyidah Khadija was conducted 15 years before the announcement of Prophethood. The rules of Islam were not in place, as Prophethood was not announced and the revelation of the Qur’an had not yet started. Hence, even if a kafir led the nikah, it was correct as it was not forbidden by Islam. In fact, even now, according to the Shari’at, if a kafir prays the Khutbah or conducts the Nikah, as long as the man and woman complete Ijab and Qabool, and there are a minimum of two witnesses present, the Nikah is complete. If ‘Hazrat’ is used with the intention of praise or respect then he is mistaken, as it has been clarified that the correct opinion is that Abu Talib died a disbeliever. Although a few have the opinion that Abu Talib died a believer, it is the correct and preferred opinion that he died a disbeliever according to the overwhelming majority of the Ahl al-Sunnah wa al-Jama’ah. For more details, refer to the comprehensive treatise of Ala Hazrat Imam Ahmad Raza, Sharhu al-Matalib Fi Mabhathi Abi Talib. And Allah knows best.
I believe in Allah and His Rasul and whoever also believe the same way then you are my Muslim brother. I don't care which sect you belong to provided you follow Allah and His Rasul then I won't have problem with you. May Allah bestow upon us manifestation of prosperity and spirituality.
5:18 Yes, but this law was instituted around 7 years after the death of Abu Talib, so it would have been permissible for Fatima bint Asad to stay with him before the legislative verse was revealed.
Response from Sayed: Salam Alaikom, No the law was not instituted when Allah revealed when 60:10 was revealed. The Prophet (s) had informed his companions, but it was not revealed officially in the Qur’an. So later 60:10 banned it officially.
It is not fitting for the Prophet and those who believe that they should invoke (Allah) for forgiveness for pagans even though they be of kin, after it has become clear to them that they are companions of the fire.” This is the verse revealed when the prophet asked his uncle to say the shahada at his bed side.
We understand that the information provided might be new and contrary to your established beliefs. But Muawiya and Zubairis being against Ahlulbayt is well established in books of history 🙂
Why would muawyia say your father died a kafir to hazrat Ali? I'm sure his grandfather died a kafir. I'm sure there were plenty of people whose parents died kafir so saying this would alienate to many people he needed support from.
Biggest proof In both our ahli sunnah and shia accepted are That sayidina abi tholib is 1st witness state that buhaira told him that his nephew (which is orphan) was a last messenger of God And buhaira was shown a prophethood sign in back of our beloved prophet saww to sayidina abi tholib Clear sign And no body give sacriface his life in mekah hard periode until boycott to rosululloh saww Both sayidah khadija and sayidina abi tholib 2 biggest hero in early hard periode in mekkah
@@Thaqlain oh yeah ? Then tell me why your kind insulting the wife of Prophet Muhammad and his companion Abu Bakar etc ? Shias will never enter Jannah as long as they believe the Prophet Companions is wicked peoples .
Shias don't believe companions are "wicked" people. It is Quran that says that some people around the Prophet are "wicked". It is Quran that has condemned two wives of the Prophet. Rest, our love for companions can be found through this playlist: ruclips.net/p/PLOXzVYnjThoqu8g_zit4Iyl5akgqnwdDS
@@Thaqlain Are you sure you are reading the same Quran as we do? Where in the Quran does it say some of the companions are wicked? As well as, where does the Quran condemn two wives of the prophet?
Muawiyah didn't say it,,,because they respect each other,,,people of iraq betrayed ali,,and Muawiyah,,,, Read the seerah of rasul muhammad sallahu alaihi wassalam,,,
@@Thaqlain. I'm Sunni, we believe that Abu Talib was Muslim, but it's secret, political strategy for Abu Talib to giving the protect to Muslim, to ensure the king post of Mecca post will not taken by Kuffar Abu Jahal team... Sometime we must hide the faith from the Kuffar under the crucial situation, it was like Ammar Bin Yasir tortured by Abu Jahal.. Sunni still believe that Abu Talib was a believer, but we cannot tell the secret openly, cause it is secret you know. Sunni are not Wahabis who reject the fact of Abu Talib faith. Abu Talib just do anything to protect our prophet! That is the truly faith! SACRIFICE you know!
Try to unit muslims using your platform and educate them about Tawheed and other pillars of Islam .This will be more useful rather than talking about about something that happened 1400 years ago! When we die we won't be asked if we believed that Abu Talib had died muslim or not! May Allah guide all of us to the right path,Ameen
We can understand Tawheed only when we know from whom to learn Tawheed. Should we learn from individuals according to whom Allah will have his leg in hellfire or from those who through their poetic lines expressed their strong belief in Allah.
There's overwhelming evidence that Abu Talib was a true believer. Muawiya and the corrupt Ummayad Dynasty fabricated countless absurd narrations that are to be found in Ibn Katheer, Ibn Hisham etc. This young, dynamic scholar is doing an excellent job of exposing the enemies of Islam and our beloved Rasulullah.
Same thing you did by commenting this. If The truth speakers won't say then from whom our children's will learn from? Sunni Mullahs who do nothing but disrespect Rasul e khuda saww
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I'm Sunni, we believe that Abu Talib was Muslim, but it's secret, political strategy for Abu Talib to giving the protect to Muslim, to ensure the king post of Mecca post will not taken by Kuffar Abu Jahal team... Sometime we must hide the faith from the Kuffar under the crucial situation, it was like Ammar Bin Yasir tortured by Abu Jahal..
Sunni still believe that Abu Talib was a believer, but we cannot tell the secret openly, cause it is secret you know.
Sunni are not Wahabis who reject the fact of Abu Talib faith.
Abu Talib just do anything to protect our prophet! That is the truly faith! SACRIFICE you know! 😢 Sollu Alan-Nabiy... I love you so much Abu Talib 😭😭
Thank you Moulana , thank you team and every one who has taken part in this whole. I am a converted shia muslim and this series really helps me to understand and firm my beliefs... May Allah bless you all . Please continue to teach us. Once again Thank you for providing us that detailed knowledge about our beloved Prophet s.a.w.💖
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Mohammad(saww) himself knows what Abu Talib(as) was for Him
As a "sunni" I love Imam Ali (AS) and understand that the Umayyads and the wahhabis have changed translations of even sunni books to hide many truths about Ahlul-Bayt. Excellent video, and I love my Ameer-ul-Mumineen Ali Ibn Abi Talib Alayhis-Salaam
Please dont forget to post reference links of such important statements so that no doubts are raised
Please share which specific references are required and we will add them right away. If you are asking about the poetic verses by Abu Talib, they are found in:
1- The Book Motashabah al-Qur’an by Ibn Shahr-Ashoob, volume 2, page 66
2- Seera of Ibn Hesham volume 1 page 352
@@Thaqlain thanks !
Agreed. They shud either be mentioned in passing by the Sayed or in subtitle if not both so that all may benefit and look up the sources later.
All scholars agree that Abu Talib, the uncle of the Messenger of Allah ﷺ, took care of the Messenger of Allah ﷺ and dearly loved him more than his own children. However, although he was close to the Messenger of Allah ﷺ, he did not accept Islam and thus died as a kafir. This is the belief of the majority of the scholars of the Ahl al-Sunnah and is proven from the verses of the Qur’an and authentic Ahadith.
Allah says in the Qur’an:
“Indeed it is not such that you can guide whomever you love, but Allah guides whomever He wills; and He well knows the people upon guidance.” [Qur’an 28:56]
It is the consensus of the exegetes [mufassireen] that this verse was revealed regarding Abu Talib. It is in Ma’alim al-Tanzeel (Tafsir al-Baghawi), “It was revealed regarding Abu Talib,” it is in Madarik al-Tanzeel (Tafsir al-Nasafi), “Zajjaj said that it is the consensus of the exegetes that this verse was revealed regarding Abu Talib.” Imam Nawawi in his Sharh Muslim wrote similar to this.
The Hadith mentions the reason of revelation of the aforementioned verse [28:56]. Abu Hurairah narrated that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said to his uncle at the time of his death, ‘say there is none worthy of worship but Allah and I will bear testimony for you on the Day of Reckoning’. He (Abu Talib) said, ‘Were it not the fear of the Quraysh blaming me, saying that it was the anxiety of (approaching death) that induced me to do so, I would have certainly delighted your eyes.’ It was then that Allah revealed, ‘Indeed it is not such that you can guide whomever you love, but Allah guides whomever He wills.’ [Qur’an 28:56] [Sahih Muslim, Kitab al-Iman]
In another verse of the Qur’an, Allah says:
“It is not for the Prophet and those who believe, to pray for the forgiveness of polytheists even if they were their relatives, after it has become clear to them that they are the people of hell.” [Qur’an 9:113]
It is stated in Tafsir al-Nasafi, “The Messenger of Allah intended to ask for the forgiveness of Abu Talib, so this verse was revealed that ‘it is not for the Prophet.’” Similarly, it is in Tafsir al-Jalalayn, “It was revealed because of the Messenger of Allah’s asking for forgiveness for his uncle, Abu Talib.”
The Hadith mentions the reason of revelation of both the aforesaid verses; Sa’eed bin al-Musaiyab narrated, “When Abu Talib was on his death bed, the Messenger of Allah came to him and found with him - Abu Jahl and Abdullah bin Abi Umaiya bin al-Mughira. The Messenger of Allah said, “O uncle! Say, none has the right to be worshipped except Allah, a sentence with which I will defend you before Allah.” On that Abu Jahl and Abdullah bin Abi Umaiya said to Abu Talib, “Will you now leave the religion of Abdul Muttalib?” The Messenger of Allah kept on inviting him to say that sentence while the other two kept on repeating their sentence before him till Abu Talib said as the last thing he said to them, “I am on the religion of ‘Abdul Muttalib,” and refused to say, None has the right to be worshipped except Allah. On that the Messenger of Allah said, “By Allah, I will keep on asking Allah’s forgiveness for you unless I am forbidden (by Allah) to do so.” So Allah revealed, “It is not for the Prophet and those who believe, to pray for the forgiveness of polytheists even if they were their relatives, after it has become clear to them that they are the people of hell.” [Qur’an 9:113] And then Allah specifically revealed about Abu Talib ‘Indeed it is not such that you can guide whomever you love, but Allah guides whomever He wills.’” [Qur’an 28:56] [Sahih Bukhari: Kitab al-Janaiz, Kitab al-Manaqib, Kitab al-Tafseer - Surah al-Bara’ah and Surah al-Qasas, Sahih Muslim: Kitab al-Iman, Sunan al-Nasa’i: Kitab al-Janaiz].
In another verse, Allah says:
“And they stop [others] from him (the Messenger of Allah) and run away from him; and they ruin none except themselves, and they do not have sense.” [Qur’an 6:26]
It is stated in Tafsir al-Baghawi, “Ibn Abbas and Maqatil said that this verse was revealed regarding Abu Talib. He would prohibit and prevent others from hurting the Prophet, yet he himself stayed far from bringing faith in the Prophet.” Similar is stated in al-Durr al-Manthur.
Abu Sa’id al-Khudri narrated, “A mention was made of his uncle, Abu Talib in front of the Messenger of Allah. He said, I anticipate that my intercession will benefit him on the Day of Resurrection that he will be placed in the shallow part of the Fire which will reach his ankles and his brain will boil.” [Sahih Bukhari: Kitab Manaqib al-Ansar, Sahih Muslim: Kitab al-Iman, Ahmad: Ann Abi Sa’eed al-Khudri].
Sayyiduna Ali narrated, “I said to the Messenger of Allah, O Messenger of Allah! Your uncle, the old and the misguided has died. The Messenger of Allah said, go and bury him.” [Nasb al-Rayah, Sunan Abu Daud, Ahmad, al-Sunan al-Kubra].
The version of Ibn Abi Shaybah is, Sayyiduna Ali narrated, “Your uncle, the old kafir has died, what is your view? (i.e. what should be done). The Messenger of Allah said, wash him and bury him.” [al-Musannaf li-Ibn Abi Shaybah]
The version of Imam Shafa’i adds after the words ‘wash him and bury him’, “I (Sayyiduna Ali) said, O Messenger of Allah! He died as a Mushrik [polytheist]. The Messenger of Allah said, go and bury him.” [Nasb al-Rayah]
The Messenger of Allah ﷺ did not object to Sayyiduna Ali when he used the terms ‘kafir,’ ‘Mushrik’ and ‘misguided’ for his own father, Abu Talib. Neither did the Messenger of Allah ﷺ order Sayyiduna Ali to conduct the Janazah prayer nor did the Messenger of Allah ﷺ conduct the Janazah prayer himself. If Abu Talib died as a Muslim, the Messenger of Allah ﷺ would have ordered or conducted the Janazah prayer like he did for the wife of Abu Talib, Fatimah bint Asad, who left this world as a Muslim.
Al-Imam al-A’zam states in al-Fiqh al-Akbar, “His [the Messenger of Allah’s] uncle, Abu Talib died a kafir.”
When the Messenger of Allah ﷺ proclaimed Prophethood, four uncles were alive; Sayyiduna Hamzah, Sayyiduna Abbas, Abu Talib and Abu Lahb. The scholars agree that from them only the former two became Muslim, the latter two did not.
Shaykh Abdul Haq states in Madarij al-Nubuwwah, “Authentic narrations have established the kufr of Abu Talib.” Shaykh Abdul Haq also states in Sharh Safr al-Sa’adah, “The view of the scholars of Hadith and the Scholars of the Sunnah is that the Iman of Abu Talib is not proven. Authentic narrations mention that at the time of the death of Abu Talib, the Messenger of Allah came to him and presented Islam (i.e. asked him to accept Islam) however he did not accept.”
It is in Naseem al-Riyad, “Abu Talib died on kufr, and the false claim of some Rafdis that he became a Muslim is baseless.”
It is written in Mirqat Sharh Miskhat, “According to the Ahl al-Sunnah, Abu Talib is not a believer.”
Abu Talib leading the nikah of the Prophet ﷺ to Sayyidah Khadijah is not sufficient evidence to prove his Iman, especially when there are authentic narrations that oppose the Iman of Abu Talib. At the time of the nikah of the Prophet ﷺ with Sayyidah Khadijah, the Messenger of Allah ﷺ was 25 years old. The Prophet ﷺ announced Prophethood at the age 40, thus the nikah to Sayyidah Khadija was conducted 15 years before the announcement of Prophethood. The rules of Islam were not in place, as Prophethood was not announced and the revelation of the Qur’an had not yet started. Hence, even if a kafir led the nikah, it was correct as it was not forbidden by Islam. In fact, even now, according to the Shari’at, if a kafir prays the Khutbah or conducts the Nikah, as long as the man and woman complete Ijab and Qabool, and there are a minimum of two witnesses present, the Nikah is complete.
If ‘Hazrat’ is used with the intention of praise or respect then he is mistaken, as it has been clarified that the correct opinion is that Abu Talib died a disbeliever.
Although a few have the opinion that Abu Talib died a believer, it is the correct and preferred opinion that he died a disbeliever according to the overwhelming majority of the Ahl al-Sunnah wa al-Jama’ah.
For more details, refer to the comprehensive treatise of Ala Hazrat Imam Ahmad Raza, Sharhu al-Matalib Fi Mabhathi Abi Talib.
And Allah knows best.
These authentic hadiths and Quranic verses are examined in episode 60. Hope you have watched it 🙂
I am a sunni but deeply respect ali
Excellent Explanation.
Does anyone know the reference of where to find these line of poetry?
1- The Book Motashabah al-Qur’an by Ibn Shahr-Ashoob, volume 2, page 66
2- Seera of Ibn Hesham volume 1 page 352
As a sunni Muslim nothing makes happier to find out that Abu talib died a ☪️.
The narrative that envoces of his Mushrikness is utterly un acceptable.
So your a fake sunni, clear
@Hecker and you are a strange Sunni who enjoys putting people out of Islam
Ignore that hecker guy he’s a bum. Thank you akhi for your open honesty. I’m Shia and have nothing but love for you. Salam.
I believe in Allah and His Rasul and whoever also believe the same way then you are my Muslim brother. I don't care which sect you belong to provided you follow Allah and His Rasul then I won't have problem with you. May Allah bestow upon us manifestation of prosperity and spirituality.
5:18 Yes, but this law was instituted around 7 years after the death of Abu Talib, so it would have been permissible for Fatima bint Asad to stay with him before the legislative verse was revealed.
Response from Sayed:
Salam Alaikom,
No the law was not instituted when Allah revealed when 60:10 was revealed. The Prophet (s) had informed his companions, but it was not revealed officially in the Qur’an. So later 60:10 banned it officially.
Halul Bayt all the way.... 🥰🌹❤️🙏🙏🙏
Can someone give me a source or reference for abu talibs poetry quote, i believe abu talib was a muslim but want to read the quote out of curiosity
Salaam Alaykum
1- The Book Motashabah al-Qur’an by Ibn Shahr-Ashoob, volume 2, page 66
2- Seera of Ibn Hesham volume 1 page 352
@@Thaqlain jazakallah khair
It is not fitting for the Prophet and those who believe that they should invoke (Allah) for forgiveness for pagans even though they be of kin, after it has become clear to them that they are companions of the fire.” This is the verse revealed when the prophet asked his uncle to say the shahada at his bed side.
Answered in the next episode.
Sometime you say the versea is bout Lady Amina, sometime you say its about Abu Talib
Why are you being inconsistent?
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Why didnt the prophet or Ali read his janaza?
Answered in the next episode.
You lost me at the 1st point 😂
We understand that the information provided might be new and contrary to your established beliefs. But Muawiya and Zubairis being against Ahlulbayt is well established in books of history 🙂
Why would muawyia say your father died a kafir to hazrat Ali? I'm sure his grandfather died a kafir. I'm sure there were plenty of people whose parents died kafir so saying this would alienate to many people he needed support from.
Biggest proof
In both our ahli sunnah and shia accepted are
That sayidina abi tholib is 1st witness state that buhaira told him that his nephew (which is orphan) was a last messenger of God
And buhaira was shown a prophethood sign in back of our beloved prophet saww to sayidina abi tholib
Clear sign
And no body give sacriface his life in mekah hard periode until boycott to rosululloh saww
Both sayidah khadija and sayidina abi tholib
2 biggest hero in early hard periode in mekkah
This story in fabricated and didn't happen according to Ahl Al Sunnah Scholars.
Apparently some (not-so) Sunnis enjoy putting people out of Islam instead of inside Islam.
@@Thaqlain oh yeah ? Then tell me why your kind insulting the wife of Prophet Muhammad and his companion Abu Bakar etc ? Shias will never enter Jannah as long as they believe the Prophet Companions is wicked peoples .
Shias don't believe companions are "wicked" people. It is Quran that says that some people around the Prophet are "wicked". It is Quran that has condemned two wives of the Prophet. Rest, our love for companions can be found through this playlist: ruclips.net/p/PLOXzVYnjThoqu8g_zit4Iyl5akgqnwdDS
@@Thaqlain Are you sure you are reading the same Quran as we do? Where in the Quran does it say some of the companions are wicked? As well as, where does the Quran condemn two wives of the prophet?
All banu hashim were believers
abu talib name was abd e munaf.munaf was an idol
Abu Talib's real name was Imran. And Abd e Manaf means servant of the one who is elevated. It was the name of the Prophet's great grandfather.
Shiekh,,,how come the zubairi against ali radiya allahu nahu,,,you are liar inventing story,,,
It seems you are unaware of the Muslim history of the last years of Rashidun period.
Muawiyah didn't say it,,,because they respect each other,,,people of iraq betrayed ali,,and Muawiyah,,,,
Read the seerah of rasul muhammad sallahu alaihi wassalam,,,
JazakAllah for dropping by 🙂
hahaha lol
Muawiya supporter spotted
Why then did he refuse to say the Shahada on his deathbed at Rasulullah's request?
Things that never happened :)
We have covered it in detail in the succeeding episodes.
@@Thaqlain. I'm Sunni, we believe that Abu Talib was Muslim, but it's secret, political strategy for Abu Talib to giving the protect to Muslim, to ensure the king post of Mecca post will not taken by Kuffar Abu Jahal team... Sometime we must hide the faith from the Kuffar under the crucial situation, it was like Ammar Bin Yasir tortured by Abu Jahal..
Sunni still believe that Abu Talib was a believer, but we cannot tell the secret openly, cause it is secret you know.
Sunni are not Wahabis who reject the fact of Abu Talib faith.
Abu Talib just do anything to protect our prophet! That is the truly faith! SACRIFICE you know!
I still can't even believe that many sunnis refuse to acknowledge Abu taliban team, he was the biggest supporter of Prophet Muhammad PBUH
Try to unit muslims using your platform and educate them about Tawheed and other pillars of Islam .This will be more useful rather than talking about about something that happened 1400 years ago! When we die we won't be asked if we believed that Abu Talib had died muslim or not! May Allah guide all of us to the right path,Ameen
Agree.
We can understand Tawheed only when we know from whom to learn Tawheed. Should we learn from individuals according to whom Allah will have his leg in hellfire or from those who through their poetic lines expressed their strong belief in Allah.
I am sure he is shia,,that's they inventing story,,hadeeth,, sorry to say these shiekh ,,
Hadith which are found in Sunni books are invented by Shias? Cool 🙂
You are opening up topics that have been closed a long time ago by the "real" muslim scholars....do something beneficial in your time.
There's overwhelming evidence that Abu Talib was a true believer. Muawiya and the corrupt Ummayad Dynasty fabricated countless absurd narrations that are to be found in Ibn Katheer, Ibn Hisham etc.
This young, dynamic scholar is doing an excellent job of exposing the enemies of Islam and our beloved Rasulullah.
Same thing you did by commenting this. If The truth speakers won't say then from whom our children's will learn from? Sunni Mullahs who do nothing but disrespect Rasul e khuda saww
Liar,,,liar,,,,liar