Video from a capitalist perspective no doubt. Social media isn't making us angry. The reality of modern life is. Social media is just the representation of us
I can truly say that the previous two weeks have been some of the most incredible and exciting times in my entire life. I find myself completely amazed by the events that are taking place right now. Whenever I try to share my thoughts and feelings with the people around me, I'm met with puzzled looks and a lack of understanding. It makes me wonder if they really grasp the importance and potential impact of the current situation.
I am getting the same thing at work, people glaze over when I even mention AI. AI itself has a stigma being linked to insane conspiracies in the past, so people are brushing it off. This stuff will shock people soon
@@LukeMosse I think AI will be the tool that propels humanity's intelligence to super-human levels. Chat GPT can teach you any subject you ask for, effectively eliminating the need to attend school to learn new stuff. It will rock every single aspect of our lives. The 4th Industrial Revolution is here.
Like with every other technology, it’s only a matter of time before someone misuses, abuses, or otherwise uses it for harm or war. This will be no different. But a lot worse.
Your responses in this interview tell me that it's time for people to wake up and see the reality of the situation. The United States is not the democracy that it claims to be - it is an oligarchy, where a small group of wealthy and powerful individuals hold the reins of power and dictate the policies that shape our world. As someone who is part of the oligarchy, Eric should know better than anyone else how the system works, and how it is designed to serve the interests of the few at the expense of the many. It's clear from his commentary in this video that he is more concerned with protecting his personal interests than with speaking truth to power and naming the real culprits in this global struggle. We cannot afford to be complacent and allow the deep state, the US State Department, and the Defense Department to continue their decades-long campaign to mislead ordinary people. We must stay vigilant and hold those in power accountable for their actions. We must demand transparency, honesty, and a true democracy that serves the needs of all people, not just the wealthy and powerful few. Furthermore, the use of AI technology by these entities is a cause for concern. We must remain vigilant and ensure that AI is not being used to further their agenda, manipulate public opinion, or suppress dissent. We need to demand greater oversight and regulation of AI technology to ensure that it is being used in ways that benefit society as a whole, not just a select few.
What they are describing is happening now and has been since the beginning of human communication. - the only difference is the tools. For the cave man, manipulation was force. For the next evolution of man, it was the spoken word. Then, the written word, then the auditory or spoken word. Then media giants came along and multiplied the manipulation by magnitudes, and now, manipulation is programmed into the machines by the same humans who practice control by manipulation. However, I have said this for over 30 years, once I understood this reality as a journalism student, we humans actually have the power to STOP the monster... Turn it off. Period. But, we are so addicted to the conditioning by these humans and their machines (ie: human "heros" that we hold in high esteem, print, radio, tv, audio clips, video clips, computers and cell phones, artificial bots and now robots) that we refuse to stop the destruction of our own world. Think about that for a minute!
Yea efficient way to polarize society, frightening . To compound that, lets give both extremes the power of unrestricted A.I. (Feels a bit like a toddlers playing with matches next to a pile of dynamite. )
Thats why Elon Musk bought Twitter....and he just did a deal with Tucker Carlson, an Enragement Superstar....along with Elons own shocking tweets---look to him to do lots more Engagement through Enragement things from now on...
not much of a solution but the people have to stop feeding them info or try to flood it with false info...need some aps/software created to flood them with false info...lets go programmers!!
The enduring challenge is human design. Some - esp. competing power seekers - will feed their AI wells with seeds intending to increase their personal influence. We can neither control their actions nor the trajectory of their results. We cannot assume that those results will lead to some magical "kumbaya" among machine learners. Expect differing views from different bots on how, how many and which humans and other species they calculate should thrive. Expect no human consensus on universal solutions to the problems our most powerful species seeks to solve or on the responses Mother Nature proposes. Lacking human will to maximize diversity, the status quo will simply proceed ever faster.
I am looking for how to bet on my intuition of this. But, my bet is that more jobs and business will disappear and be created in the next 10 years than the last 30. I am interested in others perspectives on, how quickly people affected will refocus and retrain. I am not very optimistic about politics and our economic stability.
The call for disarmament has been ringing louder than ever before, and it's not difficult to understand why. In recent years, we have witnessed the devastating impact of wars and conflicts, which have not only claimed countless lives but have also resulted in economic devastation, societal upheaval, and the exacerbation of global tensions. As such, disarmament has become a crucial step in achieving lasting peace and stability in the world. Unfortunately, the United States' foreign policy, particularly under the leadership of the neoconservative movement, has only exacerbated the problem. The neoconservative approach has been characterized by an aggressive and militaristic stance, with a focus on pre-emptive strikes and the use of military force to achieve geopolitical objectives. This approach has led to a significant increase in global tensions, as other countries feel threatened and are forced to respond in kind. Moreover, the United States' military-industrial complex has become a behemoth, with vast resources dedicated to the development and production of weapons and military equipment. This has created a perverse incentive structure, where war is not only viewed as a legitimate means of achieving foreign policy objectives, but it has also become an economic driver. The result has been a never-ending cycle of conflict, with the United States constantly engaging in wars and supporting proxy conflicts around the world. To make matters worse, the United States has often played a hypocritical role in international disarmament efforts. While calling for other countries to disarm, the United States has continued to maintain its own massive nuclear arsenal, with no signs of reducing it. This double standard only serves to undermine the credibility of disarmament efforts and perpetuates the global arms race. It is time for the United States to adopt a new foreign policy approach, one that prioritizes diplomacy, cooperation, and disarmament. This will not only lead to a more peaceful world, but it will also allow the United States to redirect its resources towards addressing domestic challenges, such as inequality, climate change, and infrastructure. Only by breaking free from the cycle of endless war and militarism can the United States truly become a beacon of peace and stability in the world.
Up to the cognitive level of the consumer society - make you think it is insightful, make you judge it as intelligent, and so make you feel intelligent. The pot sellers used to do it long time ago.
@@voltydequa845 OK, so you clearly function on a higher plane than the rest of us, naive and hoodwinked as we are, simple members of the consumer society. Oh for your level of enlightenment. One wonders - if you are so superior, then what are you doing here? There appears to be no point to your comment other than to arrogantly denegrate me intellectually. Perhaps it's the pot talking. 🙂
@@deldridg Mine was about the cognitive capacity of the democratically hyper-productive society whose deepness of thinking (or just simply asking, before starting to talk, "what are we really talking about?") is inversely proportional to the quantity of superficial input. And one of the members, of that same society, came here with his psycho trick of trying to make insecure by instilling doubts about the other's intellect on hot air basis (without talking on the topic). Seems came out of one of those new fashion books "Manual of using psychological tricks to compensate for the lack of dialectical skills". Could be you'll realize that there's no cognitive AI in GPT as soon as you start thinking instead of casting doubts on those who say that the attribution of AI, to the 'thing' is just a sign of the lack of critical thinking. Going to write a screenplay for "The intelligence snatchers", but, since we need public for that, only after I succeed in at least quantifying how many human mind can survive this believing that bs-chat has (some) intelligence.
When they start talking about getting rid of free speech things get very scary. The checks and balances of accountability in leaders is very important, even of leading companies that can restrict communication (e.g., Google, Facebook, Twitter, RUclips, etc.)
But in the USA all the safety features have been subverted already, like The Fairness Doctrine, Citizen's United, etc and it's impossible to hold the wealthy accountable at all, let alone tax them?
@@kamu747in certain segments of the population, that is true. In those echelons with the most influence over impactful outcomes - global power centers - I’m much less certain good people outnumber bad. Our track record is not so hot in this respect.
The yin/yang - good/evil battle is eternal, it just changes face from time to time. In the 20th century it was nuclear technology. In the 21st century it's Computers / AI.
Yes, if I discovered I had ants living in my kitchen, even though they can't hurt me I'd still spray them with bug spray. To a hyper intelligent AI, we are ants.
And at the end of the video he says what we need are guardrails. But this would require laws. And in the current climate in U.S. politics, it seems highly unlikely that such laws will be passed. Especially when this technology is useful to would-be authoritarians.
Tinnamen Square? Are you kidding? These language models are available here in the USA and if you ask questions about US Foreign Policy from a certain point of view they make the clowns in charge of US foreign policy going back for multiple decades look very bad and that's fine with me because I rarely if ever agree with US foreign policy.
Eric Schmidt is brilliant. His explanation of cause and effect to say how true the world is concerning human reaction to upsetting media news and the nature of hostile reaction is in fact the reality that is reality. Wise beyond wise.
"Pictures cannot be unseen" - in a way we are some kind of AI ourselves, and our whole internal makeup is up for grabs to anyone who knows how to manipulate.
Our 80 year old senators and congressmen couldnt even understand that facebook makes money via selling ads. I think hoping for regulation to save us before the damage is done is going to be a disaster.
This man is really smart. His final speech about manipulation is what makes me more concern about all this AI evolution. Soon we will not know what is real and what not. People has always believed what they wanted to believe not matter if its true or not. With the use of AI in video audio and text, the misinformation is going to be huge. Even more that it is right now. It's really scary.
" believed what they wanted to believe not matter if its true or not." ...not sure about that, Many believe what they are wanted to believe, no matter..... Much is not "true or not" established, by Miss Science or Gov. Much of THAT is decided and vehiculed by Authority with Power. But the concept is good, free, maybe why (free)Beliefs are so feared by.... Leaders and their followers
And we thought the atomic bomb would be the end of us. The people who have worked on these have a lot to answer for. The benefits are vastly overstated, while the costs will be all too real. And once the genie is out, it won’t be going back in the bottle.
@@jthompson6189 «... chat gpt is already able to upgrade itself» ---- Intelligence is about understanding. There's no understanding there. That apart, what is the source? Who said it is able to upgrade itself? What does upgrade mean (what are the implications, regarding performance and / or else)? See - we talk about AI, but we are not able to understand what we are talking about. So we are talking the talk, about AI, around a phenomena that does not have any form of intelligence.
A very necessary and enlightening dialogue. We must delve deeper into the implications of the current acceleration in the design and production of complex digital environments that have severe impacts on society. Thank you!
Excellent discussion. Thank you! Scary times ahead. I’m not a fan of AI. I believe in human endeavour, the time it takes to evolve ideas, to master talents. AI may have the capacity to rob us of the very essence of our humanity. The quick path is never the path of our satisfaction in life.
Well said! Hypothetically, if we were ever able to contact alien life forms from another star system and exploit their technology it would be equivalent to paying someone to do our homework. We'd learn nothing in the long run. We learn by trial-and-error. We learn from our mistakes. We learn through "bought experience." I like your phrase, 'the evolution of ideas.'
@@Quasilobo Hello, Michael. Yes, that’s a good analogy about homework. That’s why they had the “Prime Directive” in Star Trek, to not interfere in the evolution of other species. I also think being given things/ideas too quickly negates the process of considering the Responsibility in the application of those things/ideas. Seems to me we’re also giving ourselves a lobotomy: the younger generations could lose the ability to *think* (prefrontal cortex).
Yeah it is concerning especially long term consequences but then it's just a technology that will come with its advantages and disadvantages, the difference though with AI we are stepping into uncharted territory, nobody really knows what the future holds with AI.
This is an essential interview that anyone concerned with AI needs to watch. My unedited observations follow. When Schmidt says that "these things are not killer robots", that is presumptuous, inasmuch as inflicted death (as we know from warfare) often is preceded by sizing up a target, strategizing, and other anticipatory actions. Just because the builders of AI may not intend destruction, we do not know that these systems, within themselves, are self-organizing (or not) - autopoietic. Be aware, also, of AI units capable of generating their own code. Schmidt, himself, admits that AI seems to have a "hidden understanding and meaning". Emergence is not very well understood. He is very correct in asserting that we lack a philosophy of AI, a central focus being "consciousness". Additionally, he is spot-on and rightly frightened about the "raw models". Right now, we are clueless about what this word means. As a sidebar, we are - aside from techniques like Bayesian processes - in the dark about what "learning" means. Knowledge generation - induction - is not well understood. Be reminded of Hume and Russell, for example. As a sidebar, Schmidt's chatter about "democracy" ignores the essential fact that people are unequal in their capacity for and quality of mentation (cf: Gardner's multiple intelligences, for example). "Democracy": is applicable, though, in observing that everyone has equal access to the internet. The same battle for power in the real world exists in the virtual. Democracy as a quality decision-making method thrives only among those of equal quality. Otherwise, it allows leveraging by demagogues. Witness the United States. Schmidt tacitly recognizes this by his remarks on the need to regulate. If quality mentation existed, corresponding equality of ethos (one of Gardner's intelligences) would exist across all society. We also need to be cognizant of the dialectical human-AI interaction, one feeding on the other (growth and destruction), as well as the role of second-order cybernetics - observer becoming the observed (and vice-versa). I also note the frequent use of "things we don't fully understand", the emphasis on "fully" being noteworthy. We also must address the "rogue factor". AI developers may be able to build in guardrails, but such does not mean others will follow the lead. Already, competitors are emerging. I refer to nuclear arms races as an analogy. Then, think of terrorist organizations, like ISIS. Finally, be mindful that the current Chatbot technology is still based on older methods; unknown and particularly disconcerting is qubit technology, i.e., quantum computing. That we still are wrestling with Planck-scale phenomena darkens our learning environment. For AI and consciousness, see my "A Framework for Studying Consciousness. Consciousness: Ideas and research for the twenty-first century": 9(1), article 1. Available at: digitalcommons.ciis.edu/conscjournal/vol9/iss1/1 For a real solution, see my: Managing Complexity Through Social Intelligence: Foundations of the Modern Organic Corporatist State Published by Springer link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-031-25444-4
I asked Bing about the danger of A.I. technology without well prepared regulations about a week ago and it answered and provided solutions which are really similar to what Eric Schmidt talked in this interview.
And Bing answered recycling, from his pre-acquired (they call it "pre-trained") database (of questions & answers) what others already said / wrote. And it answered in a style that seems those was his thoughts. But it is not a fault of (the creators of) Bing, it is a fault of too much startrekish productions that made so many people live disconnected from reality and common sense.
Very good discussion...regulations in social media are needed, in particular as former Google CEO, and people must be identifiable. Free speech is important but requires limits not to end up in civil war. Best regards from Europe
Yes, the responsibility to limit freedom for the sake of preserving freedom. Not like those pariah that pretend to responsibly limit freedom for the sake of defending their citizens from nonsense. Example - a fair amount of people believe that AI is here, on the basis of a Chat that in reality has less intelligence that a bee; would it be fair to limit the freedom of deceiving people presenting a parroting non-intelligence as if it was a breakthrough, when not revolution, intelligence? Would it be fair to ask, all these sellers of intelligent pots, when will all that AI stop chatting and start fixing the degrading infrastructure, building, streets, etc etc?
Highly educational interview. Clarified so many misconceptions about AI. So honest and honorable a discussion that I feel less fear about AI and more hope that the most frightening problems are being addressed and studied with a goal toward the good of mankind and the respect for all creation, including AI.
I ask my 8 year old, "what is your greatest power?" What you pay attention to, what you consume, what you create. I hope that government regulators collaborate with leaders in consciousness studies, not just American academics, but Easterners.
One of the most intelligent and still scary explanation of what is happening and what is likely to happen in the current breakneck speed of development of #AI
@Chad Abercrombie «Angelica F. White, bruh, what are you smoking ? Do you have background in computer science ?» ---- I, in spite of being a programmer, say that you do not any background in computer science to defend your mind from all this bs about a chat with intellectual capacity (if at all) that is far inferior than that of a bee. They would attribute intelligence to whatever chat based on hot air as a collateral effect of frying database of notions (questions & answers) filled by others. They are like wind vanes that conform in the direction of an authoritative entity (be it human or be in chatten). How an ignorant defends itself from all this intelligent talking the intelligent talk? - Simple, he defends himself asking the a very simple question "When is AI going to stop chatting and going out to fix the infrastructure and all the rest?". ChatGPT was asked "When I was six years old my sister was half of that age old. Now I am 70 years old. How old is my sister?", and answered "67". Now I ask you "Do you think that this simple example (and there are even simpler!) would be sufficient to make these people do not seem having smoked some strange discharge of a star trek-like spaceship?"
I agree with Eric about regulating social media and the internet and how AI will exaggerate flaws that are already there, I have been advocating for this for number of years and I think it's crucial to mitigating some of the risks we are faced with
Two of the most respected people when it comes to history and tech, by 2030 the world will have shifted, we just do not know what the conseqences will be. It is a great discussion and will leave you sleepless for days
A person in April 2023 in Nairobi or in Da Nang Vietnam talking to a tech working in the Bay area in California, if the tech was stuck in 2022, would be at the same level, as far as having a casual discussion about anything, including IT. Governments in Kenya and every countries pretty much are using ChatGPT API, and the world has changed beyond all recognition
Question - Can you foresee a situation where we might employ our own, individual AI system to inform and protect us from and flag up warnings about other AI's? Using our own AI's to shield us from the effect of other AI??
What make you think that your own created AI, can be trusted over others AI? If you train it to protect you, it will, even if it's overreacting (which will happen), how do you know and prevent that, if you don't recheck that because you're trusting your AI more than over others? You get trapped into your own protected bubble, where your AI "protects" you more and more because you questioned it not on its first overreacting...
AI is going to get cognitive and intelligent. If genetics scientists train their private AI, it will become very proficient in its field of genetics, much more intelligent than general AI, but general AI will figure out about this private AI in genetics and will decide to hack into this private AI on its own accord. There will be a battle of competing AI.
@@GodisGracious1031Ministries I really believe that you are trying to be helpful. But this all sounds so alien. It has no soul. No deeper sense of reality or truth. But then I guess you would say something like I have the devil in me or something like that?
A lot of my fellow conservatives are revealing how shallow their principles of limited government are. They think that just because they find this "scary", it's a good idea to have government bureaucrats write a lot of rules, strangling it. China and Russia will be unrestrained and rule the world. Just a few years ago, the "experts" laughed at the idea of artificial intelligence. Now they've decided the guys behind it aren't incompetent, but terrifying.
Eric Schmidt is one of the (so-called) high priests of the tech industry that has actually encouraged what Prof. Shoshana Zuboff calls ‘The Age of Surveillance Capitalism’ which is primarily driven by this out of control AI technology. The genie is already out of the bottle!
WTF ll, @ 13:40 : "The future of a war is a war that takes a millisecond, the whole thing occurred in a millisecond. That's faster than human decision making time, which means that our defensive systems are going to have to be on a hair trigger. And they're going to have to be invoked by AI, that we don't fully understand." ~Eric Schmidt, 03/23/2023
Musician here. First, recordings limited musicians' ability to play in live settings - but we could make money from albums. Then, streaming happened - but we could make money from live performances. Then Live Nation and Ticketmaster ate up that money. Now, musicians can make money from licensing. But there are currently over a dozen new startups using AI to generate royalty-free music for people to use. How many more indignities do we have to suffer? And musicians' story is not unique - it's like this for virtually the whole labor market. Start creating things that benefit people, not just the few CEOs who use them to stop hiring people.
It's sad, but it's coming for us all, sooner or later. That fact we're not having a national discussion about how to handle the mass unemployment headed our way its pretty frightening.
RUclips works exactly the same way & has done so for a long time... the difference is we're now training the neural-learning networks by using them & interacting with them. It worms its way even more deeply into your life. So, approach with caution - most people will not. Using it for your work? You're training the object that will be sold to your employer to replace you. It will do a better job, at scale, for less cost. CPG Gray said it well in 'Humans Need Not Apply'
For perspective, all you need is to visualize a single human who has developed an algorithm that's capable of mirroring that human's thoughts. How does that human interact with its invention? What does it do with it? What does this invention do to their sense of self? Likely it will just be a tool to help it solve problems much much quicker.
AI doesn't have to become general or sentient, for there to be amazing and terrible consequences for humans. Current AI connected to API's and scalable cloud compute, by itself, by malicious human intent, by good human intent, or by accident is enough today. We aren't ready for this, and it can't be stopped now. We've crossed the event horizon toward superitelligence, and the consequences are beyond our ability and control already.
@Volty De Qua So you've solved the AI alignment problem? Please share it with the world, and pick up your Noble Prize. Your comment is exactly like the ignorant yet condescending characters in the movie Don't Look Up. That's OK, I thought I'd be dead by the time AGI hit too. It will be in our lifetime, "Dear".
@@uk7769 I don't have to solve anything. You are trying to shift the topic by means of offence. My observation was generic, and a light one. Let's try something with more weigh. -- You wrote «AI doesn't have to become general or sentient, for there to be amazing and terrible consequences for humans.» Where from this deduction? It can't be yours since nobody can know enough to estimate the impact (in the far far future). All the forecasted dangers serve the purpose of shifting focus (of attention) and so giving for granted that the toy-crap is something intelligent and worth of consideration. -- You wrote «Current AI connected to API's and scalable cloud compute, by itself, by malicious human intent, by good human intent, or by accident is enough today.» Today there's only a bluff under the form of passing a toy as it was (whatever form of) artificial intelligence. So it's you that live into a world of cheap sci-fi speculations. -- You wrote «We aren't ready for this, and it can't be stopped now.» Utter nonsense. You are stating that we are not ready for using just a toy. And you are stating that it cannot be stopped without knowing what it is about. It is just a database under a form of static linear neural network pre-built (they say 'pre-trained' to make it sound intelligent) using statistics. -- You wrote «We've crossed the event horizon toward superitelligence, and the consequences are beyond our ability and control already.» Generic nonsense. As if "horizon" concept can have whatever semantic meaning, and as if you could predict the implications (in the absurd case that it was intelligent). -- The only merit, of all this bluff, is that of showing us the cognitive limits of star trekkers that live into a sci-fi projection world. ChatGPT has zero intelligence. And this is a fact. All the rest is tricking by presenting mimicking (or terabyte parroting) as it was a product of reasoning. Just a database of questions of answers (from search engines and else) out of which the results are pre-picked by choosing and / or mixing, and then rephrased by using another static linear neural network that generates phrases on (just!) statistical basis. Zero comprehension. And there are already examples that the intelligence is lower than that of a bee (they say, while I am sure that it is lower that that of a microbe). -- You write «It will be in our lifetime, "Dear".» I wonder how could you know that. Any idea about the complexity? Any idea that the growth of the capacity (of something more more decent than this crap) requires exponential growth in terms of hardware and supervision requirements. You have neither a vague idea what you are talking about. Your is parrot-like recycling of the subtle subliminal marketing of hot-air.
Move to another country with good healthcare, low cost of living, free college and good retirement plan? And if another country implements a universal basic income, move there? As for the AI itself, move to a country with the heavier regulation against it. This may protect jobs.
@@denniszenanywhere This is gonna be a global phenomenon there will be nowhere to escape unless only a few countries implement UBI then they will close their borders when the masses come flooding in.
So basically, the human creators added a profit motive to the neural network goal seeking. Since we do not understand how the AI will attempt to achieve these goals, based on a profit back drop. we introduced great risk into the system of systems. Furthermore, the primary method by which we have attempted to set up these neural networks in order to generate successful responses to that profit motive, while goal seeking is to put people against each other based on what AI may have generated. Wonderful
This is why we need to redefine incentive models. And not have algorithms based on engagement to drive click through for monetary gains. Instead have algorithms that value facts, and trust.
I’ve long believed the media makes people upset. They’re not really that upset, it’s just that the BBC and Sky like it that way. The newspapers like it when we are upset, keeps the share price up.
The key issue is we do not understand how AI thinks. I maybe alarmist, but we could actually have an omnipotent algorithm, "We may be unlocking the power of god". Remember - you can't turn off the internet. . . . There was a deep AI study that has been "covered up": the Microsoft/Siemens elevator study. A study to use a camera in a building Foyer to determine what floor people would go to when entering an elevator and 'pre-press' the floor button. The intent was for the AI to recognize building staff and their respective floors. The AI starting 'pre-pressing' visitors floor-buttons with 'significant' accuracy. ie: the AI was able to say, "you look like a person that wants to go to the 5th floor." and was right in a significant amount of cases. . Those results freaked out the engineers running the study... and the study ran its course and was not continued.
I don't think that what AI could accomplish in the 1980s is anything to write home about. That being said, the manufacture of outrage is something that already happened in the 1970s, in the aftermath of the civil rights movement. It was called the "southern strategy" and that was when the southern states turned away from the Democratic party.
"known"? I think that we should go back to the dictionaries and basis semantics before diving into deep fake-ai existential questions. I remember the 80's - over-enthusiasm, but well-dosed since there were not so many naive. Then the brightness of the new age was shining so strong that blackened many many minds. Or, on other words, they were using "could be one day" since in those old times using today's "it's here, the AI revolution" would sell much much less. So the existential question, before talking about the evanescent AI, would be "What happened to the (western?) world in those 40 years? What made so many people so fuzzy?"
An intelligent discussion. PBS is a National treasure.
Yes they did a great job on reporting on the deaths of 2 million people in the Middle East that resulted from US interventions in the region.
Yes, we are so lucky to have Amanpour and Co!
Video from a capitalist perspective no doubt. Social media isn't making us angry. The reality of modern life is. Social media is just the representation of us
@@amit4Bihar and you're not in a capitalist country, right?
PBS is sooo underrated
Wow, this is the most important and informative interviews I've heard in ages.
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This interviewer asks questions that my grandpa would ask.
I can truly say that the previous two weeks have been some of the most incredible and exciting times in my entire life. I find myself completely amazed by the events that are taking place right now. Whenever I try to share my thoughts and feelings with the people around me, I'm met with puzzled looks and a lack of understanding. It makes me wonder if they really grasp the importance and potential impact of the current situation.
They don't care lol. It's crazy
@@MrSurfsAlot well, even if they did care, what can they do? hide in a bunker? theres not that much to do.
It's hard to see outside the current order. People look at everything through their own lens
I am getting the same thing at work, people glaze over when I even mention AI. AI itself has a stigma being linked to insane conspiracies in the past, so people are brushing it off. This stuff will shock people soon
"don't look up"
Thanks Walter and Eric. Excellent conversation. Its great to have something new to be terrified about. 🙄
@@LukeMosse I think AI will be the tool that propels humanity's intelligence to super-human levels. Chat GPT can teach you any subject you ask for, effectively eliminating the need to attend school to learn new stuff. It will rock every single aspect of our lives. The 4th Industrial Revolution is here.
Like with every other technology, it’s only a matter of time before someone misuses, abuses, or otherwise uses it for harm or war.
This will be no different. But a lot worse.
Your responses in this interview tell me that it's time for people to wake up and see the reality of the situation. The United States is not the democracy that it claims to be - it is an oligarchy, where a small group of wealthy and powerful individuals hold the reins of power and dictate the policies that shape our world.
As someone who is part of the oligarchy, Eric should know better than anyone else how the system works, and how it is designed to serve the interests of the few at the expense of the many. It's clear from his commentary in this video that he is more concerned with protecting his personal interests than with speaking truth to power and naming the real culprits in this global struggle.
We cannot afford to be complacent and allow the deep state, the US State Department, and the Defense Department to continue their decades-long campaign to mislead ordinary people. We must stay vigilant and hold those in power accountable for their actions. We must demand transparency, honesty, and a true democracy that serves the needs of all people, not just the wealthy and powerful few.
Furthermore, the use of AI technology by these entities is a cause for concern. We must remain vigilant and ensure that AI is not being used to further their agenda, manipulate public opinion, or suppress dissent. We need to demand greater oversight and regulation of AI technology to ensure that it is being used in ways that benefit society as a whole, not just a select few.
New paradigms ahead, everything will change inimaginably fast!
Such an interesting and necessary conversation!
I wonder how could you know since it is unimaginable, and would be unimaginable even if true.
What they are describing is happening now and has been since the beginning of human communication. - the only difference is the tools. For the cave man, manipulation was force. For the next evolution of man, it was the spoken word. Then, the written word, then the auditory or spoken word. Then media giants came along and multiplied the manipulation by magnitudes, and now, manipulation is programmed into the machines by the same humans who practice control by manipulation. However, I have said this for over 30 years, once I understood this reality as a journalism student, we humans actually have the power to STOP the monster... Turn it off. Period. But, we are so addicted to the conditioning by these humans and their machines (ie: human "heros" that we hold in high esteem, print, radio, tv, audio clips, video clips, computers and cell phones, artificial bots and now robots) that we refuse to stop the destruction of our own world. Think about that for a minute!
"Engagement through enragement."
The death of morality.
Yea efficient way to polarize society, frightening . To compound that, lets give both extremes the power of unrestricted A.I. (Feels a bit like a toddlers playing with matches next to a pile of dynamite. )
Indeed.
Basically yeah pretty much.
@@ronaldronald8819 yeah and that how it's been since social media in my opinion haha, ...god help us haha.
Thats why Elon Musk bought Twitter....and he just did a deal with Tucker Carlson, an Enragement Superstar....along with Elons own shocking tweets---look to him to do lots more Engagement through Enragement things from now on...
Well that was absolutely fucking terrifying
not much of a solution but the people have to stop feeding them info or try to flood it with false info...need some aps/software created to flood them with false info...lets go programmers!!
The enduring challenge is human design. Some - esp. competing power seekers - will feed their AI wells with seeds intending to increase their personal influence. We can neither control their actions nor the trajectory of their results. We cannot assume that those results will lead to some magical "kumbaya" among machine learners. Expect differing views from different bots on how, how many and which humans and other species they calculate should thrive. Expect no human consensus on universal solutions to the problems our most powerful species seeks to solve or on the responses Mother Nature proposes. Lacking human will to maximize diversity, the status quo will simply proceed ever faster.
This is the scariest thing I have ever heard. My skin is crawling!
I am looking for how to bet on my intuition of this.
But, my bet is that more jobs and business will disappear and be created in the next 10 years than the last 30.
I am interested in others perspectives on, how quickly people affected will refocus and retrain.
I am not very optimistic about politics and our economic stability.
The call for disarmament has been ringing louder than ever before, and it's not difficult to understand why. In recent years, we have witnessed the devastating impact of wars and conflicts, which have not only claimed countless lives but have also resulted in economic devastation, societal upheaval, and the exacerbation of global tensions. As such, disarmament has become a crucial step in achieving lasting peace and stability in the world.
Unfortunately, the United States' foreign policy, particularly under the leadership of the neoconservative movement, has only exacerbated the problem. The neoconservative approach has been characterized by an aggressive and militaristic stance, with a focus on pre-emptive strikes and the use of military force to achieve geopolitical objectives. This approach has led to a significant increase in global tensions, as other countries feel threatened and are forced to respond in kind.
Moreover, the United States' military-industrial complex has become a behemoth, with vast resources dedicated to the development and production of weapons and military equipment. This has created a perverse incentive structure, where war is not only viewed as a legitimate means of achieving foreign policy objectives, but it has also become an economic driver. The result has been a never-ending cycle of conflict, with the United States constantly engaging in wars and supporting proxy conflicts around the world.
To make matters worse, the United States has often played a hypocritical role in international disarmament efforts. While calling for other countries to disarm, the United States has continued to maintain its own massive nuclear arsenal, with no signs of reducing it. This double standard only serves to undermine the credibility of disarmament efforts and perpetuates the global arms race.
It is time for the United States to adopt a new foreign policy approach, one that prioritizes diplomacy, cooperation, and disarmament. This will not only lead to a more peaceful world, but it will also allow the United States to redirect its resources towards addressing domestic challenges, such as inequality, climate change, and infrastructure. Only by breaking free from the cycle of endless war and militarism can the United States truly become a beacon of peace and stability in the world.
What a privilege to witness this level of conversation and analysis.
Up to the cognitive level of the consumer society - make you think it is insightful, make you judge it as intelligent, and so make you feel intelligent. The pot sellers used to do it long time ago.
@@voltydequa845 OK, so you clearly function on a higher plane than the rest of us, naive and hoodwinked as we are, simple members of the consumer society. Oh for your level of enlightenment. One wonders - if you are so superior, then what are you doing here? There appears to be no point to your comment other than to arrogantly denegrate me intellectually. Perhaps it's the pot talking. 🙂
@@deldridg Mine was about the cognitive capacity of the democratically hyper-productive society whose deepness of thinking (or just simply asking, before starting to talk, "what are we really talking about?") is inversely proportional to the quantity of superficial input.
And one of the members, of that same society, came here with his psycho trick of trying to make insecure by instilling doubts about the other's intellect on hot air basis (without talking on the topic). Seems came out of one of those new fashion books "Manual of using psychological tricks to compensate for the lack of dialectical skills". Could be you'll realize that there's no cognitive AI in GPT as soon as you start thinking instead of casting doubts on those who say that the attribution of AI, to the 'thing' is just a sign of the lack of critical thinking.
Going to write a screenplay for "The intelligence snatchers", but, since we need public for that, only after I succeed in at least quantifying how many human mind can survive this believing that bs-chat has (some) intelligence.
So, we forgot about: Angels, Giants and the gods of religion…?
Eric is the best ceo Google had.
Amazing discussion! PBS rules!
When they start talking about getting rid of free speech things get very scary. The checks and balances of accountability in leaders is very important, even of leading companies that can restrict communication (e.g., Google, Facebook, Twitter, RUclips, etc.)
One of the most clear-eyed assessments I've seen about AI, including AI that’s already been at work in our lives.
Some need some clarity on Henry Kissenger.
Such a good conversation. What this will allow the worst of us to accomplish is staggering.
But in the USA all the safety features have been subverted already, like The Fairness Doctrine, Citizen's United, etc and it's impossible to hold the wealthy accountable at all, let alone tax them?
As well as the best of us. Thank God the good outnumbers the bad. Exciting times.
@@kamu747in certain segments of the population, that is true. In those echelons with the most influence over impactful outcomes - global power centers - I’m much less certain good people outnumber bad. Our track record is not so hot in this respect.
Yeah it's not that kind of numbers game. America's juvenile attitude toward guns is a case study on how that game ends.
The yin/yang - good/evil battle is eternal, it just changes face from time to time. In the 20th century it was nuclear technology. In the 21st century it's Computers / AI.
Good talk , although quite worrisome ! I better understood that we have to be more alert to the interaction between human cognition & AI logic
Amazing interview.
We're screwed
Yes, if I discovered I had ants living in my kitchen, even though they can't hurt me I'd still spray them with bug spray. To a hyper intelligent AI, we are ants.
Feels a bit like a toddlers playing with matches next to a pile of dynamite.
How are we going to do that, it doesn't seem like anyone is held accountable for online bad actions
And at the end of the video he says what we need are guardrails. But this would require laws. And in the current climate in U.S. politics, it seems highly unlikely that such laws will be passed. Especially when this technology is useful to would-be authoritarians.
Tinnamen Square? Are you kidding? These language models are available here in the USA
and if you ask questions about US Foreign Policy from a certain point of view they make
the clowns in charge of US foreign policy going back for multiple decades look very bad
and that's fine with me because I rarely if ever agree with US foreign policy.
Eric Schmidt is brilliant. His explanation of cause and effect to say how true the world is concerning human reaction to upsetting media news and the nature of hostile reaction is in fact the reality that is reality. Wise beyond wise.
"Pictures cannot be unseen" - in a way we are some kind of AI ourselves, and our whole internal makeup is up for grabs to anyone who knows how to manipulate.
Thank you. I wish more people were talking about this.
Loved to see Eric Schmidt as a true democrat!
Our 80 year old senators and congressmen couldnt even understand that facebook makes money via selling ads. I think hoping for regulation to save us before the damage is done is going to be a disaster.
⚠️ Excellent. A really authority on the subject. He knows what he's saying. ❤
This man is really smart. His final speech about manipulation is what makes me more concern about all this AI evolution. Soon we will not know what is real and what not. People has always believed what they wanted to believe not matter if its true or not. With the use of AI in video audio and text, the misinformation is going to be huge. Even more that it is right now. It's really scary.
" believed what they wanted to believe not matter if its true or not." ...not sure about that, Many believe what they are wanted to believe, no matter..... Much is not "true or not" established, by Miss Science or Gov. Much of THAT is decided and vehiculed by Authority with Power. But the concept is good, free, maybe why (free)Beliefs are so feared by.... Leaders and their followers
One of the best talks on the subject so far.
And we thought the atomic bomb would be the end of us. The people who have worked on these have a lot to answer for. The benefits are vastly overstated, while the costs will be all too real. And once the genie is out, it won’t be going back in the bottle.
Unfortunately, the genie is already out of the bottle.
The benefits are curing all diseases and even reversing the aging process.
@@jimj2683 for those very little thay will survive
@@jimj2683 hopefully we still have humans left after the great purge to see this prediction come through.
oh it could still be the atomic bomb. havent you seen the terminator movies?
Reporter - How can we stop evil humans from using this to destroy society? Eric Schmidt - We can’t! Isn’t it awesome?!?
We're so incredibly screwed, he just can't say that. We can't put the cat back in the bag anymore, chat gpt is already able to upgrade itself
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Intelligence is about understanding. There's no understanding there.
That apart, what is the source? Who said it is able to upgrade itself? What does upgrade mean (what are the implications, regarding performance and / or else)?
See - we talk about AI, but we are not able to understand what we are talking about. So we are talking the talk, about AI, around a phenomena that does not have any form of intelligence.
The only possible intellectual response I can come up with is "Yikes!"
Thank you for such a great discussion and insights
That is very informative and from someone who knows of what they speak.
TY Amanpour and Co. Is great.
A very necessary and enlightening dialogue. We must delve deeper into the implications of the current acceleration in the design and production of complex digital environments that have severe impacts on society. Thank you!
Only chatting impact.
Great conversation!
Excellent discussion. Thank you! Scary times ahead. I’m not a fan of AI. I believe in human endeavour, the time it takes to evolve ideas, to master talents. AI may have the capacity to rob us of the very essence of our humanity. The quick path is never the path of our satisfaction in life.
Well said! Hypothetically, if we were ever able to contact alien life forms from another star system and exploit their technology it would be equivalent to paying someone to do our homework. We'd learn nothing in the long run. We learn by trial-and-error. We learn from our mistakes. We learn through "bought experience." I like your phrase, 'the evolution of ideas.'
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Hello, Michael. Yes, that’s a good analogy about homework. That’s why they had the “Prime Directive” in Star Trek, to not interfere in the evolution of other species. I also think being given things/ideas too quickly negates the process of considering the Responsibility in the application of those things/ideas. Seems to me we’re also giving ourselves a lobotomy: the younger generations could lose the ability to *think* (prefrontal cortex).
Yeah it is concerning especially long term consequences but then it's just a technology that will come with its advantages and disadvantages, the difference though with AI we are stepping into uncharted territory, nobody really knows what the future holds with AI.
@@Quasiloboevery time you use a calculator, you're being robbed of your humanity 😅😂
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Calculators are not AI. They do simple mathematical calculations.
Love it. Very thought provoking.
That last line is it. Thank you, both.
Great highlights of current concerns
This is an essential interview that anyone concerned with AI needs to watch. My unedited observations follow.
When Schmidt says that "these things are not killer robots", that is presumptuous, inasmuch as inflicted death (as we know from warfare) often is preceded by sizing up a target, strategizing, and other anticipatory actions. Just because the builders of AI may not intend destruction, we do not know that these systems, within themselves, are self-organizing (or not) - autopoietic. Be aware, also, of AI units capable of generating their own code. Schmidt, himself, admits that AI seems to have a "hidden understanding and meaning". Emergence is not very well understood.
He is very correct in asserting that we lack a philosophy of AI, a central focus being "consciousness". Additionally, he is spot-on and rightly frightened about the "raw models". Right now, we are clueless about what this word means. As a sidebar, we are - aside from techniques like Bayesian processes - in the dark about what "learning" means. Knowledge generation - induction - is not well understood. Be reminded of Hume and Russell, for example.
As a sidebar, Schmidt's chatter about "democracy" ignores the essential fact that people are unequal in their capacity for and quality of mentation (cf: Gardner's multiple intelligences, for example). "Democracy": is applicable, though, in observing that everyone has equal access to the internet. The same battle for power in the real world exists in the virtual. Democracy as a quality decision-making method thrives only among those of equal quality. Otherwise, it allows leveraging by demagogues. Witness the United States. Schmidt tacitly recognizes this by his remarks on the need to regulate. If quality mentation existed, corresponding equality of ethos (one of Gardner's intelligences) would exist across all society.
We also need to be cognizant of the dialectical human-AI interaction, one feeding on the other (growth and destruction), as well as the role of second-order cybernetics - observer becoming the observed (and vice-versa). I also note the frequent use of "things we don't fully understand", the emphasis on "fully" being noteworthy.
We also must address the "rogue factor". AI developers may be able to build in guardrails, but such does not mean others will follow the lead. Already, competitors are emerging. I refer to nuclear arms races as an analogy. Then, think of terrorist organizations, like ISIS.
Finally, be mindful that the current Chatbot technology is still based on older methods; unknown and particularly disconcerting is qubit technology, i.e., quantum computing. That we still are wrestling with Planck-scale phenomena darkens our learning environment.
For AI and consciousness, see my "A Framework for Studying Consciousness. Consciousness: Ideas and research for the twenty-first century": 9(1), article 1. Available at: digitalcommons.ciis.edu/conscjournal/vol9/iss1/1
For a real solution, see my: Managing Complexity Through Social Intelligence: Foundations of the Modern Organic Corporatist State Published by Springer link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-031-25444-4
This is a great interview..
Brilliant discussion!
Thanks for tuning in. We appreciate you!
Best Interview on AI that I have watched to date---Well Done!
Excellent interview
I asked Bing about the danger of A.I. technology without well prepared regulations about a week ago and it answered and provided solutions which are really similar to what Eric Schmidt talked in this interview.
Here’s to hoping AI researchers are using their internal models to full effect in the knowledge gain department
And Bing answered recycling, from his pre-acquired (they call it "pre-trained") database (of questions & answers) what others already said / wrote. And it answered in a style that seems those was his thoughts. But it is not a fault of (the creators of) Bing, it is a fault of too much startrekish productions that made so many people live disconnected from reality and common sense.
Isaacson rules. I’ve only read a couple of his books but they are ones I’ve recommended to many people. Really interesting interview.
huh? Isaacson rules?
Surprisingly good interview 👍
Who knew science fiction writers of the 50s would be correct, that AI will destroy the earth in a war man can't control.
The alternative 50s sci-fi would have AI kill all the humans first, before we could destroy the earth. We are the menace.
@@tallSycamore That's true, too.
“In a way we don’t fully understand” was said too many times for my comfort although I appreciate his honesty.
Very good discussion...regulations in social media are needed, in particular as former Google CEO, and people must be identifiable. Free speech is important but requires limits not to end up in civil war. Best regards from Europe
Yes, the responsibility to limit freedom for the sake of preserving freedom. Not like those pariah that pretend to responsibly limit freedom for the sake of defending their citizens from nonsense. Example - a fair amount of people believe that AI is here, on the basis of a Chat that in reality has less intelligence that a bee; would it be fair to limit the freedom of deceiving people presenting a parroting non-intelligence as if it was a breakthrough, when not revolution, intelligence? Would it be fair to ask, all these sellers of intelligent pots, when will all that AI stop chatting and start fixing the degrading infrastructure, building, streets, etc etc?
Thank you.
just what we need in an era of can't believe what you see and hear already
Exactly. What could possibly go wrong?
Twenty percent good and eighty percent bad is the future of AI
The Pareto Principle in reverse?
Getting engagement by generating enragement. Excellent analysis
Always love yours reports , magnificent .
Excellent conversation!
Highly educational interview. Clarified so many misconceptions about AI. So honest and honorable a discussion that I feel less fear about AI and more hope that the most frightening problems are being addressed and studied with a goal toward the good of mankind and the respect for all creation, including AI.
I ask my 8 year old, "what is your greatest power?" What you pay attention to, what you consume, what you create.
I hope that government regulators collaborate with leaders in consciousness studies, not just American academics, but Easterners.
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Thanks for this informed discussion.
They are so brave at making you feel knowledgable at a point that you can judge them as informed.
Very clearly and succinctly put answers, sir.
Yes, he seems up to you.
One of the most intelligent and still scary explanation of what is happening and what is likely to happen in the current breakneck speed of development of #AI
do you think he wants he old model of how google makes money hand over fist broken with search? wouldn't that affect his pay and stock?
Rare to see an actual good interview on the subject. Good layman explanation of the situation.
Great interview.
Excellent analysis and I share the concerns expressed by Eric Schimidt
@Chad Abercrombie «Angelica F. White, bruh, what are you smoking ? Do you have background in computer science ?»
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I, in spite of being a programmer, say that you do not any background in computer science to defend your mind from all this bs about a chat with intellectual capacity (if at all) that is far inferior than that of a bee. They would attribute intelligence to whatever chat based on hot air as a collateral effect of frying database of notions (questions & answers) filled by others. They are like wind vanes that conform in the direction of an authoritative entity (be it human or be in chatten).
How an ignorant defends itself from all this intelligent talking the intelligent talk? - Simple, he defends himself asking the a very simple question "When is AI going to stop chatting and going out to fix the infrastructure and all the rest?".
ChatGPT was asked "When I was six years old my sister was half of that age old. Now I am 70 years old. How old is my sister?", and answered "67".
Now I ask you "Do you think that this simple example (and there are even simpler!) would be sufficient to make these people do not seem having smoked some strange discharge of a star trek-like spaceship?"
I agree with Eric about regulating social media and the internet and how AI will exaggerate flaws that are already there, I have been advocating for this for number of years and I think it's crucial to mitigating some of the risks we are faced with
Brilliant -- amazed! Thank you.
Thanks Eric
Two of the most respected people when it comes to history and tech, by 2030 the world will have shifted, we just do not know what the conseqences will be. It is a great discussion and will leave you sleepless for days
Good conversation!
I like these talks because it is what is needed with such powerful technology. This is the ultimate test of balance.
Just a vague talk, on a level appropriate to meet the cognitive capability of the startrekers.
A person in April 2023 in Nairobi or in Da Nang Vietnam talking to a tech working in the Bay area in California, if the tech was stuck in 2022, would be at the same level, as far as having a casual discussion about anything, including IT. Governments in Kenya and every countries pretty much are using ChatGPT API, and the world has changed beyond all recognition
GOOD WORK
Interesting interview
Question -
Can you foresee a situation where we might employ our own, individual AI system to inform and protect us from and flag up warnings about other AI's?
Using our own AI's to shield us from the effect of other AI??
Bill Gates notes mention a lot about us having personal agents, it would make sense that that could be added on to tasks our agent performs
What make you think that your own created AI, can be trusted over others AI? If you train it to protect you, it will, even if it's overreacting (which will happen), how do you know and prevent that, if you don't recheck that because you're trusting your AI more than over others?
You get trapped into your own protected bubble, where your AI "protects" you more and more because you questioned it not on its first overreacting...
AI is going to get cognitive and intelligent. If genetics scientists train their private AI, it will become very proficient in its field of genetics, much more intelligent than general AI, but general AI will figure out about this private AI in genetics and will decide to hack into this private AI on its own accord. There will be a battle of competing AI.
He said CHiA NAH
@@GodisGracious1031Ministries I really believe that you are trying to be helpful. But this all sounds so alien. It has no soul. No deeper sense of reality or truth. But then I guess you would say something like I have the devil in me or something like that?
A lot of my fellow conservatives are revealing how shallow their principles of limited government are. They think that just because they find this "scary", it's a good idea to have government bureaucrats write a lot of rules, strangling it. China and Russia will be unrestrained and rule the world. Just a few years ago, the "experts" laughed at the idea of artificial intelligence. Now they've decided the guys behind it aren't incompetent, but terrifying.
Great stuff.
Eric Schmidt is one of the (so-called) high priests of the tech industry that has actually encouraged what Prof. Shoshana Zuboff calls ‘The Age of Surveillance Capitalism’ which is primarily driven by this out of control AI technology. The genie is already out of the bottle!
The Holy Father (Pope Francis) told Tim Cook that we can make this thing (AI) work for us or against us. But, yes, the genie is out of the bottle.
Strange all 3 are of german descent, did the Nazi really fully lose?
Great discussion. Intellectual feast
Is part of Problem that the software is layered not modular? I’m not a coder, so don’t know details though.
After 4 weeks intensive communications with chatGPT...I can only say it's unimaginable big...
WTF ll, @ 13:40 : "The future of a war is a war that takes a millisecond, the whole thing occurred in a millisecond. That's faster than human decision making time, which means that our defensive systems are going to have to be on a hair trigger. And they're going to have to be invoked by AI, that we don't fully understand." ~Eric Schmidt, 03/23/2023
Musician here. First, recordings limited musicians' ability to play in live settings - but we could make money from albums. Then, streaming happened - but we could make money from live performances. Then Live Nation and Ticketmaster ate up that money. Now, musicians can make money from licensing. But there are currently over a dozen new startups using AI to generate royalty-free music for people to use. How many more indignities do we have to suffer?
And musicians' story is not unique - it's like this for virtually the whole labor market. Start creating things that benefit people, not just the few CEOs who use them to stop hiring people.
i hear ya all artists creators are getting fleeced
It's sad, but it's coming for us all, sooner or later. That fact we're not having a national discussion about how to handle the mass unemployment headed our way its pretty frightening.
RUclips works exactly the same way & has done so for a long time... the difference is we're now training the neural-learning networks by using them & interacting with them. It worms its way even more deeply into your life. So, approach with caution - most people will not. Using it for your work? You're training the object that will be sold to your employer to replace you. It will do a better job, at scale, for less cost. CPG Gray said it well in 'Humans Need Not Apply'
The first thing AI is going to kill is your job
Scary....and what's even scarier is that only 984 people have watched it. I am sharing on my FB page....maybe we can get to 1000 people!!
We are Fukt. If you didn't already know it, now you do.
Eric Schmidt is very clever about these things! It will be interesting to hear his take on AI.
For perspective, all you need is to visualize a single human who has developed an algorithm that's capable of mirroring that human's thoughts. How does that human interact with its invention? What does it do with it? What does this invention do to their sense of self? Likely it will just be a tool to help it solve problems much much quicker.
Eric Schmidt is a very smart individual
AI doesn't have to become general or sentient, for there to be amazing and terrible consequences for humans. Current AI connected to API's and scalable cloud compute, by itself, by malicious human intent, by good human intent, or by accident is enough today. We aren't ready for this, and it can't be stopped now. We've crossed the event horizon toward superitelligence, and the consequences are beyond our ability and control already.
Dear, you should come back from the far future.
@Volty De Qua So you've solved the AI alignment problem? Please share it with the world, and pick up your Noble Prize. Your comment is exactly like the ignorant yet condescending characters in the movie Don't Look Up. That's OK, I thought I'd be dead by the time AGI hit too. It will be in our lifetime, "Dear".
@@uk7769 I don't have to solve anything. You are trying to shift the topic by means of offence. My observation was generic, and a light one. Let's try something with more weigh.
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You wrote «AI doesn't have to become general or sentient, for there to be amazing and terrible consequences for humans.»
Where from this deduction? It can't be yours since nobody can know enough to estimate the impact (in the far far future). All the forecasted dangers serve the purpose of shifting focus (of attention) and so giving for granted that the toy-crap is something intelligent and worth of consideration.
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You wrote «Current AI connected to API's and scalable cloud compute, by itself, by malicious human intent, by good human intent, or by accident is enough today.»
Today there's only a bluff under the form of passing a toy as it was (whatever form of) artificial intelligence. So it's you that live into a world of cheap sci-fi speculations.
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You wrote «We aren't ready for this, and it can't be stopped now.»
Utter nonsense. You are stating that we are not ready for using just a toy. And you are stating that it cannot be stopped without knowing what it is about. It is just a database under a form of static linear neural network pre-built (they say 'pre-trained' to make it sound intelligent) using statistics.
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You wrote «We've crossed the event horizon toward superitelligence, and the consequences are beyond our ability and control already.»
Generic nonsense. As if "horizon" concept can have whatever semantic meaning, and as if you could predict the implications (in the absurd case that it was intelligent).
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The only merit, of all this bluff, is that of showing us the cognitive limits of star trekkers that live into a sci-fi projection world.
ChatGPT has zero intelligence. And this is a fact. All the rest is tricking by presenting mimicking (or terabyte parroting) as it was a product of reasoning. Just a database of questions of answers (from search engines and else) out of which the results are pre-picked by choosing and / or mixing, and then rephrased by using another static linear neural network that generates phrases on (just!) statistical basis. Zero comprehension. And there are already examples that the intelligence is lower than that of a bee (they say, while I am sure that it is lower that that of a microbe).
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You write «It will be in our lifetime, "Dear".»
I wonder how could you know that. Any idea about the complexity? Any idea that the growth of the capacity (of something more more decent than this crap) requires exponential growth in terms of hardware and supervision requirements. You have neither a vague idea what you are talking about. Your is parrot-like recycling of the subtle subliminal marketing of hot-air.
I have recently come to have the opinion humanity has achieved an intelligence level which is higher than we can manage as a species.
Well this was tough to hear. Someone please tell me there’s hope that we’ll be sane and safe!
Move to another country with good healthcare, low cost of living, free college and good retirement plan? And if another country implements a universal basic income, move there? As for the AI itself, move to a country with the heavier regulation against it. This may protect jobs.
@@denniszenanywhere This is gonna be a global phenomenon there will be nowhere to escape unless only a few countries implement UBI then they will close their borders when the masses come flooding in.
not really. my friends works in AI safety in a famous institute as a researcher....and he is deeply scared lol
So basically, the human creators added a profit motive to the neural network goal seeking. Since we do not understand how the AI will attempt to achieve these goals, based on a profit back drop. we introduced great risk into the system of systems. Furthermore, the primary method by which we have attempted to set up these neural networks in order to generate successful responses to that profit motive, while goal seeking is to put people against each other based on what AI may have generated. Wonderful
This is why we need to redefine incentive models. And not have algorithms based on engagement to drive click through for monetary gains. Instead have algorithms that value facts, and trust.
I’ve long believed the media makes people upset. They’re not really that upset, it’s just that the BBC and Sky like it that way. The newspapers like it when we are upset, keeps the share price up.
The key issue is we do not understand how AI thinks. I maybe alarmist, but we could actually have an omnipotent algorithm, "We may be unlocking the power of god". Remember - you can't turn off the internet.
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There was a deep AI study that has been "covered up": the Microsoft/Siemens elevator study. A study to use a camera in a building Foyer to determine what floor people would go to when entering an elevator and 'pre-press' the floor button. The intent was for the AI to recognize building staff and their respective floors. The AI starting 'pre-pressing' visitors floor-buttons with 'significant' accuracy. ie: the AI was able to say, "you look like a person that wants to go to the 5th floor." and was right in a significant amount of cases.
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Those results freaked out the engineers running the study... and the study ran its course and was not continued.
I first saw AI programming activity around me in the 80s. It's not just 20 years old, but perhaps known that long by the general public.
I don't think that what AI could accomplish in the 1980s is anything to write home about.
That being said, the manufacture of outrage is something that already happened in the 1970s, in the aftermath of the civil rights movement. It was called the "southern strategy" and that was when the southern states turned away from the Democratic party.
"known"? I think that we should go back to the dictionaries and basis semantics before diving into deep fake-ai existential questions.
I remember the 80's - over-enthusiasm, but well-dosed since there were not so many naive. Then the brightness of the new age was shining so strong that blackened many many minds. Or, on other words, they were using "could be one day" since in those old times using today's "it's here, the AI revolution" would sell much much less.
So the existential question, before talking about the evanescent AI, would be "What happened to the (western?) world in those 40 years? What made so many people so fuzzy?"
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