Buying a CNC Router from China !?# *WATCH* before you buy! Know what you are getting

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  • @flypic1098
    @flypic1098 3 года назад +8

    Another fine tutorial where you include a lot of stuff that most youtubers would not. Thank Roger. Jim

  • @richwhilecooper
    @richwhilecooper 3 года назад +4

    Roger, thanks for your videos. I'm in contact with a UK importer/upgrader of chinese machines in the UK and am speccing up a 120w machine complete with cooling, air assist & filtration system that thanks to you I have insisted on. I have asked for upgraded motors too. It's a complete turn-key solution and while costly, it's going to be worth it. The level of explanation you give is extraordinary. I now realise by spending treble my original budget I will have a machine that will be well supported and will work from day 1 (installation software, and training) and by watching your vids I avoided wasting £3000 I was about to drop without understanding many of the pitfalls.
    Please keep making these instructional videos. They really are excellent.

  • @travisc8293
    @travisc8293 4 года назад +7

    So glad I got me a Haas GM-2 5AX machine. do note I am a tool and die, machinist. everything he says is so right even on a bigger scale

  • @flypic1098
    @flypic1098 3 года назад +1

    Just watched it again as I'm looking at purchasing from China. Thanks again Roger. Jim

  • @sto2779
    @sto2779 2 года назад +2

    22:30 - Well then, you have completely answered my question which no one in the woodworking hobby knows about, how accurate of a CNC machine one needs to produce stunning 3D carvings... my guts was telling me a precision CNC machine that is used by precision machinists (which needs to be top spec machine, using ultra precision linear guide rails, ultra precision ball bearings, cast iron heat treated frame or granite frame, powerful zero runout spindle and etc...) I was seriously thinking 3D carving woodworking doesn't need such high precision CNC until you have answered the question. Thanks for this video, it is the answer and secret of stunning 3D carving woodworking. I never appreciated the wooden frame CNC or all the talk about the new popular CNC machines that costs under $3K which everyone have in their home garage which uses belt driven rails. Now I am confused why precision machinists never talks about doing woodworking... because there is a huge market for precision 3D wood carvings.

  • @thehardwareguy
    @thehardwareguy 4 года назад +5

    Thank you for making this video Roger. It is incredibly valuable.

  • @giuliobuccini208
    @giuliobuccini208 4 года назад +6

    Actually USB data transmission is NOT synchronized, while the old port used for printers (centronics 25 pin parallel port) IS. So, to be honest, the old ports are far more suitable for driving mechanisms or devices in real-time.
    USB ports are far superior in terms of trasmission speed, but rarely you need to send several megabyte per second to a cnc router...
    To summarize, not always what is "new" means also "better".

  • @-Thunder
    @-Thunder 3 года назад +2

    Since this video Roger got rid of Mach 3 / 4 and now uses a dedicated offline CNC controller. That makes more sense to me. I used to work on a HAAS machine and that's how they work (basically). You have a small, dedicated box that boots instantly running G-Code instead of a computer with fairly expensive software.

    • @rogerwebb9600
      @rogerwebb9600  3 года назад +1

      That said, Mach3 and Mach4 are ok too.

  • @Hazdazos
    @Hazdazos 4 года назад +6

    What a great all-encompassing video. Good stuff.

  • @mon3d-designs
    @mon3d-designs 3 года назад +1

    Being a digital 3d sculptor, i have recently moved into CNC and 3d printing and started to create bespoke digital 3d relief sculpts specifically for CNC, just need to build up experience on the CNC machines :) great channel and much information to digest, thanks :)

  • @pigfigjig
    @pigfigjig 3 года назад +1

    Cheers Rodger..mate your education is a game changer already in my pursuit of 3D machining

  • @mr.mrs.t.9292
    @mr.mrs.t.9292 4 года назад +4

    Appreciate your dedication and passion to educate like minded individuals. You are a true inspiration to makers everywhere. THANK YOU!

  • @xavierpascalabengndongo5791
    @xavierpascalabengndongo5791 4 года назад +1

    You do a wonderful job by sharing your knowledge. I learned quite all I know about cnc
    thanks to your videos. Thank you so much!

  • @Bart_Depestele
    @Bart_Depestele 3 года назад +2

    33:41 working on it, thanks for your help

  • @sketchysina
    @sketchysina 4 года назад +2

    Hi roger, thanks so much from creating these videos, it’s inspiring and your wealth of knowledge shows through.

  • @dam2093
    @dam2093 4 года назад +2

    You do a great work! Thank you so much for all of your advices!

  • @superkev202k
    @superkev202k 3 года назад +1

    i work a masterwood project 351....9meters long virtical axis has 25 tools , horizontal has front/back cutters for locks and hinges, then a rotating c axis , ive made a bowl on my old machine just using vertival axis but not really had a chance toplay with this new 1

  • @timbertreats599
    @timbertreats599 4 года назад +1

    Informative video Roger! As always helpful advice

  • @jazee1973
    @jazee1973 2 года назад +1

    can some one please help ...iv bought a 6090 machine i have built it iv installed mach 3 im using a windows 10 laptop but its not doing anything at all as in when i tell mach 3 to start the spindle nothing is happening when i try to jog the machine in mach 3 it doesn't respond ...some help please what I'm i missing im using the usb cable they supplied ...thanks

    • @rogerwebb9600
      @rogerwebb9600  2 года назад

      Hi, use a windows 7 or 8 computer and you need a driver for Mach3 to see the card in your machine

  • @NightshiftCustom
    @NightshiftCustom 3 года назад +1

    just something i see on your cnc is maybe move the spindle motor up as much as you can in the clamping mount so you don't have as much hang out from the main mount plate
    would smooth out your cuts as it would be more ridged :)

  • @markshepard6859
    @markshepard6859 4 года назад +1

    Great explanation of what a good CNC router should consist of. The best communication between computer and router is actually the use of an ethernet cable. Also Mach 3 and 4 are good but can be buggy at times. WinCNC, Centroid Acorn and few others have more advanced features than Mach. I'm just putting my 2 cents into your guide to buying a CNC router.

  • @slap_my_hand
    @slap_my_hand 4 года назад

    I wish there was more information avalible about this style of CNC machine. Every forum post is either something like "I bought the machine and it works" or some horror story from a guy who bought one from the cheapest suplier on Alibaba. Thanks for sharing your knowledge about these machines!

  • @MickyBellRoberts
    @MickyBellRoberts 3 года назад +2

    Good Boxing Day morning, the day after Christmas Y’all.

  • @MrjackieG
    @MrjackieG 3 года назад +1

    Do a noise comparison of a water cooled router versus an air cooled one. You may be quite surprised at the difference in noise of just the machines (no bit) running at 20,000 rpm.

  • @stuartbishop9437
    @stuartbishop9437 Год назад +1

    Hi do you use a acut cnc router and is this one in your youtube video? Thanks you stuart

  • @mcmanon5696
    @mcmanon5696 3 года назад +1

    I love this man!

  • @realsocrates5272
    @realsocrates5272 3 года назад +2

    Roger, this was a great video..... I must ask the brand of the machine you displayed in this video

  • @oscarstone8493
    @oscarstone8493 4 года назад +1

    Very Very good information. I thank you sir.

  • @alpscnc905
    @alpscnc905 3 года назад +1

    thank you for all the info. Thank you for share. i like your vid´s

  • @jondemarall
    @jondemarall 3 года назад +1

    Your videos are fantastic!! I am new to cnc and am looking at purchasing one. I like the one you use. Can I ask what kind of computer you use and is your machine from china and if so where did you purchase. Thanks!!

  • @bafa_tents_services
    @bafa_tents_services 4 года назад +1

    Very important video 👌👍
    Thanks. Am working on making my own home made router CNC Table.

  • @dongkiwakim4970
    @dongkiwakim4970 3 года назад +1

    thanks!

  • @randolphromondt908
    @randolphromondt908 3 года назад +1

    Hi Roger Webb I did see your CNC router 6090 , I am in the stage to buy Chines one ,can I ask which manufacture you bought yours and the model number .Thx

  • @caribguy2007
    @caribguy2007 4 года назад +1

    Love your videos. Question what is the difference between a big setup like this compared to xcarve or shapeoko? Is it just the table and base?

  • @davidwebster4111
    @davidwebster4111 3 года назад +1

    Hi Roger What about NC Studio?

  • @fredmartinez933
    @fredmartinez933 4 года назад +1

    thank you for all the info..thank you for share..

  • @Trin3of7
    @Trin3of7 4 года назад +1

    Hello Roger Can it etch or engrave on granite and what brand is your machine

  • @GiorgiGvimradze1
    @GiorgiGvimradze1 4 года назад +1

    Your suggestion about the connectivity part\ where you prefer USB rather than 25 pin socket is reasonable to care about. But if that would cost you much, the users might find useful to just buy a 25 pin to USB cable which are less than 10 USD or maybe up to 20 in rare cases.

    • @rogerwebb9600
      @rogerwebb9600  4 года назад +1

      Hi Giorgi, 25 pin to USB dos NOT work with Mach3 95% of the time.

    • @GiorgiGvimradze1
      @GiorgiGvimradze1 4 года назад

      @@rogerwebb9600 wow, this is good to know

  • @asgharrezaei0138
    @asgharrezaei0138 4 года назад

    Thank you very much my dear , i quiet alot watch your clips and learn alot , it,s a kind of you to reminder to get the better things. knowllege

  • @dsaworxcarpentrysolutions9155
    @dsaworxcarpentrysolutions9155 2 года назад +1

    Can I have the link for this machine please? Thanks in advance

  • @jusles2203
    @jusles2203 4 года назад +1

    how thin does your metal sheet need to be

  • @manr.9106
    @manr.9106 2 года назад +1

    Light engine oil is not really good to use on the rails. That is a job for way oil! Light engine oil has to many undesirable additives.

  • @jimking9646
    @jimking9646 4 года назад +1

    Ok Thanks

  • @jasonalvey7656
    @jasonalvey7656 4 года назад

    my question is if there is a certain cnc for woodworking and a certain cnc for metals or do they both do the same?

  • @edratcliffe9239
    @edratcliffe9239 4 года назад +2

    Thank you I needed to see this video

  • @mirza55205
    @mirza55205 4 года назад +1

    Knowledge video.... Nice sir

  • @reclusive99
    @reclusive99 3 года назад

    Great video, what's your opinion on the STG 6090? Buy or not to buy thanks

  • @The_Digital_Samurai
    @The_Digital_Samurai 4 года назад

    When lubricating. How do you handle the interior of the bearings without using a pack grease gun?

  • @393strokedcoupe
    @393strokedcoupe 4 года назад

    I think I remember you showing off the production of the machine brand you have Roger. I thought you were affiliated with them somehow, I actually thought you had them produced there for your own company? I apologize if I got that wrong, needless to say, that machine certainly looks top quality. I am very interested in going the dark side myself, CNC that is.😉

  • @donaldrobbins7439
    @donaldrobbins7439 3 года назад +1

    I have always done wood and metal work by hand and have decided to get a CNC router to help with speed. I wanted to ask what you recommend for a good starter. I'm looking to spend about 2000$. I know its not much and I plan to upgrade after awhile. I make beer and Santa sleds for Christmas. The deer stand at 30 inch's tall. Thanks

    • @rogerwebb9600
      @rogerwebb9600  3 года назад

      Go and have a look at my 3018 CNC videos and then my MIDI CNC router videos. the machine you see in this video was $12,000 by the time I got it hear after TAX and then import duty, it is much more $$ now.

  • @jedsim875
    @jedsim875 3 года назад

    By all the info why there is no link where to purchase the CNC?

  • @user-or9kz2ds5y
    @user-or9kz2ds5y 3 года назад +1

    hello, which model is your cnc router? I am going to buy cnc router from chinese conmpany named blu ele and really do not know what it is like. :( can you tell on which company's router can I use aspire program? I learn much from your videos and want to work with the the same router and the program that you are using :( please help me

    • @rogerwebb9600
      @rogerwebb9600  3 года назад

      All help and information for CNC is available on my Patreon pages
      www.patreon.com/user?u=15079773

  • @c.j.crawford676
    @c.j.crawford676 4 года назад

    I see below that you purchased this from BoostCN but could you tell me which model this is please?

  • @FusionMan-ev9yh
    @FusionMan-ev9yh 4 года назад

    How did you add the wheels to your machine Rodger? Weld or bolt?

  • @jimking9646
    @jimking9646 4 года назад +1

    Very Nice

  • @chase_em
    @chase_em 4 года назад

    Roger, thanks for the video. I recall a previous video you've made where you mentioned additional costs/taxes we Australians pay (on top of the purchase and shipping) to get cnc machines into the country. Any chance you could mention and approximate again?

  • @poiik2682
    @poiik2682 2 года назад

    Roger have you every used blue-elephants CNC routers and if so what do you think about them?

    • @rogerwebb9600
      @rogerwebb9600  2 года назад

      I would go and have a look at Avid CNC

  • @garymiceli7321
    @garymiceli7321 4 года назад +1

    how much is that machine

  • @zulfiqarmughal1719
    @zulfiqarmughal1719 2 года назад +1

    👌🌻super good

  • @humad1
    @humad1 4 года назад +1

    Very informative vedio

  • @kenfountain3440
    @kenfountain3440 3 года назад

    Roger I am new to CNC machining as a matter fact I am waiting for my machine to arrive. I enjoy your videos and have a question. When you do a project that will take more than one bit how do you change the first bit and switch to the next one without having to go through the set up process again ? I am sure that is as basic as it gets but I haven't seen a video where someone does that. Thanks for any advice

  • @rhether
    @rhether 3 года назад +1

    Hi Roger, do you have any videos on Chinese Laser machines?

    • @rogerwebb9600
      @rogerwebb9600  3 года назад +1

      Yes I have some videos on my channel on Chinese!?! lasers

  • @airplanefood6121
    @airplanefood6121 4 года назад +4

    wowowo!!

  • @xavierpascalabengndongo5791
    @xavierpascalabengndongo5791 4 года назад

    In Cameroon we have electricity cuts all along the day. Very often, I face electricity cuts while the cnc router is working. How can I eliminate a pass which is already done when current comes back. And how to come back to origin in ncstudio ? Heeelllllp!!!!

    • @gangleweed
      @gangleweed 4 года назад

      You need a device called a UPS which is short for uninterupted power supply which has a large 12 volt battery built into it that provides the short term back up power when the mains goes down, or you can build a large battery bank to provide total power all the time and gets charged over night or when you are not using it.

  • @jamestaylor-hh7vt
    @jamestaylor-hh7vt 4 года назад +1

    Interpolation is just a movement eg linear interpolation (straight line), circular interpolation (arcs), polar interpolation (use of a linear axis and a rotary axis) etc. What you were talking about is helical interpolation (as it helixs down using 3 axis of movement). Not trolling though great video and great guy

  • @brettmasters3626
    @brettmasters3626 3 года назад +1

    how the heck do you work out the g code for these carvings

  • @danadair513
    @danadair513 3 года назад

    I never saw a link to the machine you use! I am interested in purchasing one and I am doing research currently. Would like to look at all of them and make a decision based on that. Thanks in advance!

    • @rogerwebb9600
      @rogerwebb9600  3 года назад

      All help and information for CNC is available on my Patreon pages
      www.patreon.com/user?u=15079773

  • @harldave9850
    @harldave9850 4 года назад

    You are using Mach3 software. I need a GRBL plugin for that program. How do you get it. Or should I say for Mach4 as Mach3 will be no longer
    Supported?

  • @mickaelmarques7735
    @mickaelmarques7735 4 года назад

    thank you very much sir for this very informative video. For a few months I have been interested in CNC machines for a project and it is the most interesting video I have seen so far. Do you think this CNC can machine a piece of wood of 100x18X8 cm with the rotating axis? I’m afraid the z-axis is too low to accommodate a piece of wood this size

    • @rogerwebb9600
      @rogerwebb9600  4 года назад

      You are most welcome, and yes it will

    • @mickaelmarques7735
      @mickaelmarques7735 4 года назад

      @@rogerwebb9600 Thank you very much for your answer. I think I will opt for this model for my project. which company did you buy it from? Thank you again

  • @yuvashankar7820
    @yuvashankar7820 3 года назад +1

    Pulse pre mm linear motion calculations clarify doubt please sir

    • @rogerwebb9600
      @rogerwebb9600  3 года назад

      Ok sure

    • @yuvashankar7820
      @yuvashankar7820 3 года назад

      How to calculate the pulse\mm in Linear motion?
      Can you please send me the calculations of pulses

    • @yuvashankar7820
      @yuvashankar7820 3 года назад

      Helical gear pulse per mm linear and rotary motion

  • @billycross2716
    @billycross2716 3 года назад +1

    punctuation in this title is off putting

  • @DronemanfromNepal
    @DronemanfromNepal 3 года назад

    how about nc studio ?

    • @rogerwebb9600
      @rogerwebb9600  3 года назад

      Hi, I would not use it myself

    • @DronemanfromNepal
      @DronemanfromNepal 3 года назад

      @@rogerwebb9600 i have seen you using nc studio in many videos . what are the cons of nc studio so that you are advising us not to use it ?

    • @rogerwebb9600
      @rogerwebb9600  3 года назад

      I have not used it for over 5 years and I have made videos converting my machine to Mach3 and now I am making videos on converting to an SMC-5-5-N-N offline controller

  • @mikepruett1745
    @mikepruett1745 3 года назад

    hi roger do you remember brenden stemph

  • @rjlatinorjlatino3555
    @rjlatinorjlatino3555 4 года назад

    Dont know your E-Mail.i have some images that I need to convert into Gray-scale,will like 2 know if you be interest on doing it for me

  • @KarawangChannel7
    @KarawangChannel7 4 года назад +1

    Super like

  • @newcomb3451
    @newcomb3451 3 года назад

    Were can I buy your 6012 online link or website? Thank you for all your detailed info on cnc etc.

    • @rogerwebb9600
      @rogerwebb9600  3 года назад

      Hi, the information you need is in this video link.
      ruclips.net/video/SLtZGlXGWI4/видео.html

    • @newcomb3451
      @newcomb3451 3 года назад

      @@rogerwebb9600 Thank You and have a Happy New Year!!

  • @britanniabaptistchurchservice
    @britanniabaptistchurchservice 3 года назад

    Can you please send me information on your CNC Router
    thanks
    I am in Canada and I am a Machinist

  • @ReinsFarm
    @ReinsFarm 3 года назад

    What is the best way to get in contact with you? I've tried the e-mail with no avail. Please let me know.

    • @rogerwebb9600
      @rogerwebb9600  3 года назад

      There is a facility on my Patreon pages for technical assistance
      www.patreon.com/user?u=15079773

    • @ReinsFarm
      @ReinsFarm 3 года назад

      @@rogerwebb9600 Done! Excited to learn more from you

  • @georgemangakis1208
    @georgemangakis1208 4 года назад

    What exact model 6040 router is he using?

  • @Moctop
    @Moctop 4 года назад

    Is this machine capable of overhangs? I suppose you could go in sideways with a bulb-y bit, but I bet programming that would be tricky.

  • @niltontejeda6466
    @niltontejeda6466 3 года назад

    what software do you use to program the drawings?

    • @rogerwebb9600
      @rogerwebb9600  3 года назад +1

      Carveco

    • @niltontejeda6466
      @niltontejeda6466 3 года назад

      @@rogerwebb9600 how much does it cost and do they have online classes? Thanks Roger

    • @rogerwebb9600
      @rogerwebb9600  3 года назад

      Have a look at this video
      ruclips.net/video/deHdbcaGwDA/видео.html

  • @feolender2938
    @feolender2938 4 года назад +1

    Are you Welsh Rog?

  • @andreibarbos6300
    @andreibarbos6300 3 года назад

    Спасибо! Даже не зная английского языка все понятно)

  • @theretired7927
    @theretired7927 4 года назад

    Roger, Fusion 360 is not free for hobbyists as far as i know

    • @rogerwebb9600
      @rogerwebb9600  4 года назад +1

      Yes it is for hobbyists

    • @pentachronic
      @pentachronic 4 года назад

      @@rogerwebb9600 Until today !! They just changed their licensing !!

    • @Ebonyqwe
      @Ebonyqwe 3 года назад

      @@pentachronic still free

  • @johnsobel4409
    @johnsobel4409 4 года назад

    Roder, what do you think of AXIOM cnc routers?

    • @rogerwebb9600
      @rogerwebb9600  4 года назад

      Hi John, a AXIOM CNC router will be about $17,000+. my machine was less that $10,000

  • @rogerwebb9600
    @rogerwebb9600  4 года назад

    Hi, have a look at Avid CNC machines at, www.cncrouterparts.com/
    The Benchtop PRO 2424 2' x 2' the PRO 2436 2' x 3' and the PRO 3636 3' x 3' CNC Router Machine. These machines are extremely rigid and highly accurate, and tell them I sent you ok.

  • @DaveElectric
    @DaveElectric 4 года назад +1

    He knows exactly what he's talking about. Bought a nonsense CNC router recently has all the issues
    Aluminum Extruded Tables. Not cast iron.
    Not Mach3/4 Ready. Nonsense controller.
    Linear rails connected directly to aluminum extrusion so aluminum extrusions cannot be removed or upgraded easily.
    Table slots do not use standard t slots you get with a standard machinist clamp set.
    Stepper motors.

    • @jameswasilchuk9303
      @jameswasilchuk9303 4 года назад

      Where did you buy yours?

    • @DaveElectric
      @DaveElectric 4 года назад

      @@jameswasilchuk9303 Axiom Precision/Powermatic

    • @gangleweed
      @gangleweed 4 года назад

      You only get what you pay for.....tattoo that on your forehead and quote it to the next supplier......but apparently nobody really believes it.

  • @chuxxsss
    @chuxxsss 4 года назад

    Sorry to say db is a references to a level as 20 or 2 uW or some level. You need to reference off dbm which is connected to 1mW. So you cannot say you know what a db is without the reference wattage sorry. Just hide this it is a references for future vlogs. We all make mistakes.

    • @gangleweed
      @gangleweed 4 года назад

      You could say that it's as loud as my lawn mower cutting rough grass.

    • @pentachronic
      @pentachronic 4 года назад +1

      He's talking dBA which is the audio standard not the electrical power levels !! It's common to use the terms dB to mean dBA when talking about sound pressure levels. Go to any rock concert and you'll hear about it!!