American Reacts Germany Imposes Border Controls: Can Schengen Survive?
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On immigration you're missing the point, everyday thousands of people are arriving in Italy, Greece and many other locations on dinghys and through other means. They throw their documents away so you have no idea where to send them back to. They've already arrived at a beach somewhere, so what do you do...? Half the places the people are from don't even have return schemes like Syria
What the channel forgot to mention was that the "swedish" gangs are almost exclusively made of 1st and 2nd generation migrants.
There is a UN treaty that is respected by most countries, on refugees prosecuted because of politics, conscience, religion etc. This is a human right. By not accepting them, Hungary violates not only EU treaties but also UN treaties and treaties on human rights.
But this is a very limited group, restrictions are tight.
Second group are refugees because of war. Also a UN treaty to give those temporary stay and safety. Also not respected by Hungary in violation with UN and EU treaties.
Third group are those who migrate to get a better life. Largest number of people. Those can be refused by countries, and be send back. They only get a temporary stay for the time their request is processed, and cannot relocate to other countries during that time. But if they cannot be expelled for any reason, an EU treaty makes sure that all members take their share, to make sure Greece, Spain and Italy do not get overloaded. Hungary violates that treaty as well.
Fourth group are invited migrants, usually qualified workers and foreign students who apply for EU entry in their home land, before (temporary) migration. After a problemless stay of five years they can apply for a permanent EU stay. With a temporary or permanent permission, people can migrate within the EU to enhance their career, relationship or other reasons. Few will go to Hungary because of discrimination and racism. On the other hand, Hungary uses this procedure to become a gateway to the EU for citizens of Russia, Belarus, and other former USSR countries, who do not qualify for other EU members. With a Hungarian permission of entry, they can go to any Schengen country and stay in Hungary for only a few weeks. Thus overloading others with 'unwanted' people.
But how fer it is in sme villge in Estonia ,get refuse 3000 euro at fund + each refuge free get EU maintned aparment=20+12+12+12m2 size = 4 members of immigrnt fmily + 2 years both parents get free aid 928 euro x2 month, free languge lessons 540 hours free bus trips over Estonia, 2 x everfamily teaheter or museum ticket forth every member 200 euro , free driver licence courses ( 1700 euro ), if get job and slary is less then avarge Estonian ( 1900 euro ) then that money what is less pay tax paier for him trhiu Socialoffice ...but Local pepole must take alone to renovte they aparmenthouse aand if no job then 290 euro /month and average same village salary is 1200 euro minus taxes.= take second job re in Estoniaa 35% workers to get feed family or maintinace aparment or own car ..because linebus go this village twice in day .......
Living in France and this is a huge problem for our safety and civilization
so that's why you don't stop them crossing the channel
Thats why you send them to other countries.... nice one.
@@lukespooky there's an agreement with England that we should park them a bit in Pas-de-Calais. England pays France for that. There's a constant influx of about ten thousand people there waiting for the right time to cross. It's been like that for well over a decade.
@@lukespooky one as a Brit point out that the Conservatives have let in 4.5 million legally to Britain. 88% are unskilled and according to the office for Budget Responsibility, each migrant will cost the tax payer £455,000 over there lifetime and don't contribute to Britain but are a net taker. The boats are an issue of course but legal migration is a disaster.
@@retropaganda8442be specific about this alleged 'agreement'? The French have been paid £500 million to STOP the crossings. That is British tax payers money. France needs to control its borders as do all EU countries. This immigration problem is European.
You're painfully unqualified to have an opinion on the subject matter, and you sound quite susceptible to European radicals' fear-mongering. You're better than this. Read up, man.
That's why he watched this video. To learn. He's entitled to his opinion with the knowledge he has so far. Many who are well versed in the subject have vastly differing opinions on the matter, which really isnt helping us fix the "migrant crisis" we've found ourselves in.
About Hungary: Asylum seekers come to Europe. In order to deal with sometimes insane numbers, the EU decided to distribute them evenly to all of its member countries, so that not a specific country has to host too large numbers of them and doesn't get overwhelmed by them and the financial stress this is putting on them. Hungary refuses to take those migrants that are distributed to them. So Hungary is paying huge fines for violating EU law in this regard. These fines are then used to host these migrants somewhere else (e.g. Germany, France, etc.) instead and the money is helping to pay to host those migrants.
Now instead of starting to take those migrants, they actually started to attract new migrants from Russia and Belarus -which is insane. I assume Hungary likes migrants from a Russian-/Slavic culture more than a muslim or someone from Africa for say.
The Hungarian gov. is pretty stupid. They should have accept the 1300 pep. and that's it. But the problem was: they had a very racist propaganda in play and they couldn't go against themselves with this so they did this... well... after all the pep. will pay it and they don't care. This is not the first. They went against the media control of EU and so on, it' very much similar at the moment as Russia what they do. "The old values are the best" "religion is important", we can go on, that's the same in Putin's propaganda in Russia what he tells to Russians.
as a german i can confirm that migrants from slavic countries are much better intigrating into western european society and willing to work and adopt the local culture than migrants from middle east or africa. This is not only my personal opinion but was shown in different sociological studies. If you take into account that europe has a huge demographic problem which leads to problems finding workers for vacant jobs its obvious one needs immigration to stay compatative. So hungary just wants control over the immigration, which should be a right every countrie has. Uncontrolled immigration leads to draining the walfare state, higher crime rates and the rise of nationalistic and populistic parties.
@@Willit1985 yeah, that’s bullsh… isn’t it? UK had very serious issues for a long time with immigration and working but not with North Africa or India. They have many problems with Hungarian and Polish immigration in number one place. At this point they hate them where they live in bigger numbers. Why? Because they don’t like to work at all but they like the money. The immigration from outside EU works harder than them. Now refugees because of war (thanks to us and USA) are a very different story. That few million people were here because of wars and not standard immigration. So talking about “integration” the same way as slavish people is again nonsense.
You're saying this as if it was a bad thing.
@@nazimelmardiOh, huh, I must have missed the articles about the Polish and Hungarian grooming gangs, or the islamist Slovakian terrorist attacks, or the white african stabbing sprees
Let'sbe clear: You and yours are the problem.
Look what's happening in Ireland. Ireland now has the largest foreign born population per capita in Europe, 23% of the population is foreign born.... now for a while that wasn't too bad but now we have an explosion of illegal migrants from North Africa and the Middle East which is completely changing the culture and identity of Ireland which only has a population of 4.2 million natives, this is a huge problem
Dublin is shocking.
Only 23% ??? In Spain we have 15 million foreigners mostly from The Americas, and not an immigration Police or even policy..
@@BlackHoleSpain and that accounts to 18% of your population.
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Did you change your culture ? Are you muslim now ?
Both Conservative and Labour in Britain have allowed Very high migration. It is changing the indigenous culture and values of Britain as under multiculturalism the migrants do not take on our culture or values. We have self imposed segregation with white suburbs and migrant inner cities. It's led to a rise in crime too. This is leading to people turning to parties like Reform or National Rally in France and this will continue as the consequences of migration continue.
Well said.
All EU member states are members of the Council of Europe, a non-EU body (which predates the creation of tge EEC and EU) and are therefore signed up to the European Convention on Human Rights which requires them to accept asylum seekers. The EU cannot instruct member states to violate the ECHR. The EU could remove the requirement for EU member states to belong to the Council of Europe but it would then be up to the individual states themselves to withdraw individually. Most would baulk at that possibility as even the UK (still an ECHR signatory) has done, despite calls by right wing parties such as the Reform Party to do so.
No one is contemplating the expulsion of Hungary from the EU: expulsions are not legally possible - countries can only leave voluntarily (as happened with the UK). The EU can, however, punish member states by various means including fines. Hungary is resisting having to pay these fines by threatening to send unwanted immigrants to Brussels.
Thank you. A factual and unemotional explanation, often lacking in our national discourse on immigration and worldwide migration generally.
They did sign up to the ECHR treaty, but the courts go far beyond to what member states have signed for, they are making up law themselves. The EC being able to fine member states for not obeying made up rules and breaching "European values" the unelected just pulled out of their asses is quite a stretch too. Rule of law in the EU is no more.
Connor, probably WW II is the only thing you know about modern Germany, but not everything can be explained by that as much as you like to.
That's a fair point!
When the world becomes a more dangerous place countries will revert to keeping themselves safe and leaving their neighbours to look themselves too, it is human nature. It was only a matter of time before something like this happened and it will cause the EU to rethink the Schengen area, which will also create problems with the Single Market. But as the SM is the keystone of the EU itself there are interesting times ahead. Many in the UK who voted to leave the EU were concerned about this type of scenario but we are yet to see controls to our borders.
I highly doubt we will have controls on our borders, the optics will look bad and we simply don't have people with the balls/guts to do the nasty sounding things needed to handle border defences. What nasty things? Well, shouting at people for one, physically handling them for another etc. I recently saw the so called border forces of the UK try and capture drug runners who had huge values of drugs in their boat and all we could muster was a weedy little weak voiced individual asking if they would be so kind to stop their engine and allow the officers to board them and arrest them. Of course they didn't but over and over there was the "For safety can you please turn your engine off, for safety sir..." A proper border force would have shot the outboard motor or tried to disable it.
Hungary agreed with the EU assylum agrrement but does not uphold their part of the deal!
But just like Poland, Hungary has no terrorism against its own people from migration, wish my country looked after its own people like that.
@@christianking3915 Hungary has its own reasons to oppress its own people. Ask the Roma and gay people and students! (and the poor in Hungary!)
Conor to help you understand from an American perspective, Hungary is acting like Texas and has the same problems with migration over their boarders. Just like Texas, they are not happy about it.
hungary has next to none migrants compared to other nations ... stop explaining racism with stupid shit"
My biggest and so far unanswered question is what do we offer here in the uk that isn’t offered in France? I’m not against immigration as long as it adds value to the country. I see too many people here clearly not working just dragging the country down
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It is about common sense. Uneducated people without studies cannot add any value. And is already an invasion.
Look what happens on mediterranean borders, everyweeks there's thousands of people crossing illegally. And every year the ammount is doubled.
We offer a country that speaks English. And far more do stay in France than come to the UK.
We offer them the kind of lifestyle and help we wont offer British born people who live on the streets or our own pensioners.
@@dlarge6502 But that's just not true.
@Shoomer1988 It's absolutely true. Have you seriously not heard about them jumping the queue for social housing??
In Spain 33% of the population are latinos who came by plane as tourists and never left. Sometimes in the subway, foreigners are 75% of the passengers.
The problem with Hungary restricting its immigration is that they have agreed to share the number of immigrants with the other eu countries, and since they are not doing their part, other countries must take more immigrants.
They haven't agreed to that. They are not migrants either, they are supposed to be war refugees.
They didn't. And they should accept about 1300 pep. so it's not that much. Their way how the government handled the border is the problem. They blocked it, then they moved pep. to Austria but not directly instead they moved them to Budapest dropped in the city center so the pep can hate on them as they try to find the way to our train station then they moved to Austria... They didn't care what Austria thinks just leave. That was with every single one of them. They gave permanent paper only to about 300 pep / year. Our government is an a-hole.
@@DenUitvreter You're right, we should be talking about refugees, not immigrants. As members of EU Hungary has agreed to comply with EU law, including the EU's asylum law.
@@Lottaquizzes When did they agree with what?
@@DenUitvreter when they joined. If you join you must follow eu law.
your impression about EU being soft is wrong. Hard approach has been implemented (in Spain they even opened fire). The thing is EU is THE destination and we are not separated by an ocean so it's doable to try reach it. You cannot build a wall on all land borders and hardest - sea. Hence the attempts are using political/economical leverage on countries adjacent to EU like Maroko, Libia or Turkey. Problem with that is that those later turn it around and use as a bargaining chip
Welcome to Texas Passport Control lol
Hungary prevents Ukrainian immigration for example (legit war refugees).
All the Schengen member states are not part of the EU, so even a pan-EU law wouldn't prevent mass immigration coming from Iceland, Norway, etc.
Schengen: no, before we could travel from one country to another within Europe only showing our passport. With Schengen we can just cross the borders - travelling from the most Northern Norway and Sweden to Sicily and Greece 😊
As for migration: even Germany and Sweden are waking up to reality 🤔
About the Swedish "gangsters": the Danish police is very effective and the judges not quite like the ones in Sweden. One of the "gangsters" who was caught, expected that it would be like back home in Sweden - four years behind bars. He was very surprised when the Danish judge sentenced him to 10 years behind bars 😁😂😇🚓
Operation Good Guys - stream on daily motion - mockumentary about the police. late 90's. you will LOVE IT
Even immgrant get leagal at Africa then saftey problem ..little frist EU countries change African driver licence aafter immigrant have 2 years living in EU and no extra test or leaarning Europan traffic rules. Yes some fricn contries driver licence exam is only reserv to box parking. .in practicl test it is all nothing more.
Trust me you don't want to know the Vatican economy, it's very grabby and extremely capitalistic
I end my comment m no controll weapons and drugs traffic too ....
The fault of the Schengen area how it is implemented right now is that they dropped controlled migration within the Schengen area without introducing appropriate restrictions at its outer borders, and that there are vocal opponents of introducing such measures. Regarding crime, there is still a lack of effective cross-country prosecution. Both failures to implement obvious mesures for decades makes politics in Europe look weak, which makes people vote for new radicalized movements.
One thing you need to remember is the EU and Europe are different. While majority of Europe and governments acknowledge a problem.
The EU itself does not. And the EU has its 4 pillars, one being freedom of movement. So they react negatively when european governments do things outside of EU orthodoxy
The EU believes in honoring agreements, and working together to solve the problems (which they do acknowledge, and haven been for many years). The knee-jerk reactions of some national governments does not improve the situation for anyone.
@@KeesBoons to an extent I agree. But some problems need fast solutions. Or you might end up in a too late can’t do anything now situation.
Waiting for bureaucracy to come up with the solution that may be. “Ok now here’s our new perfect plan to help reduce/limit the issue, but while we were discussing 10,000,000 people arrived and it’s too late to do anything now so they must stay”
@@dio6274 Nothing wrong with fast solutions, but these responses are no solutions. Germany has close to 4000 km of border and have only limited means for border controls as a fast "solution". If they can stop 10% of what they are trying to stop, that would already be a major success, but wouldn't do anything to solve the perceived problem. I expect this policy will only increase the number of "illegal" migrants, but only the future can tell. As with many problems we're fighting symptoms, and not resolving any problems.
great comment at 10:42. and i think the newer generations are doing exactly that,not following the boomer way of being overly apologetic and more nationalistic. this can be seen in the age range of AFD voters.
Hungary is doing a great job. They protect their own citizens.
Hungarys governament are filth
Hilarious. They protect nothing. But good job to believe propaganda. :D Literary nobody wants to live here. :D We have extremely low salaries but for that we have the same prices as Germany and now the rent prices go up as heck. Next time believe Putin. Orban says the same mantra.
You got it. The EU rulers love migrants and free movement, and if countries say no to mad EU migration rules they are heavily fined. Watch some videos on what migration has done to European countries. Now do you understand why the UK voted for Brexit 😁
You are right. Although I do not share the same opinion about exiting EU. Would be better to kick of those politicians supporting the EU agenda.
got your so braindead it hurts me
So now, after Brexit, the UK has more migrants than ever, and is further from a solution to handling the migrants than it has ever been.
@@Joan-kr1johear hear
I would love that that would never happen
These EU politicians are like tree resin/sap they are so damn sticky and resilient you get never entirely ride off them whiteout special effort, determination, non usual cleaning detergent using and force
When you realise Hungary is based and actually has a government that puts their own people first, unlike the rest of Europe.
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Define "based".
If by own people you are talking about the people in power, than you are close to the truth. Otherwise you're talking BS.
Have you ever been too rural Hungary? Seen how poor people live? Or just how Orbans people are treated? Come on! Hungary is a corrupt state!
Sure, Hungary has a huge point. That's also the reason why part of our government, the most EU skeptical, is so close to Orban
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Orban is a corrupt nitwit that has turned Europe against Hungary. Way to go. Is he hoping to replace the relationship with European countries with Putin-land? 🤨🤨
If they are? They are stupid as heck. Orban is a propaganda person, not better than Putin himself - or in case of USA, Trump. He literally implemented the same methods as Putin did in Russia, the only thing blocks him now here,is the EU to be worse. He and his "friends" called NER here stole out the whole country by now.
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A funny thing. A few days ago I heard an interview on British radio with a remainer/rejoiner who was trying to put across the case that the UK must rejoin the EU blah blah, usual remainer stuff. Anyway, the interviewer had originally been a remainer but converted to a Brexiteer, a staunch one after watching the EU show their true colours during the 6 years it took us to finally get out (ok we are still trying). He brought this issue, about Schengen and Germany's borders up and but that to the interviewee who basically thought that it was fake news, made up conspiracy stuff somehow involving a bloke in his mums house etc etc. The guy literally had zero clue, just wanted back in as somehow we were better off etc etc and now we are poor and dying and evil for having left.
Remember my friend what goes around comes around in life and it's coming back to you very bad for what you've got done and cost you'll never have any look from now everything will go wrong for you padlock
Don't bother putting videos on for me because I found out that you're living with another woman in your own and you sleeping with her I've kept me peace long enough with you it's over
off your meds?
Fucking weirdo
I'm in your closet.
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Most members of the EU are not in Schengen.
Completely false
I know it's hard to count for some people, but just refrain from these kind of comments if that's your problem.
25 of the 27 EU countries are in Schengen 😂
7:20 it’s simply because of colonisation and exploitation of those countries … Europe lacks almost all resources that you can think of that makes a country/continent superpower 😀 so they prospered to the point where they are today simply by stealing and exploiting americas ,Africa , asia and Oceania 😀 that’s why they are afraid to say no to asylum seekers because those countries are not in a shape to be living in simply because of europes devide and rule policy 😀 and let me tell you another think , the Mesopotamien civilisation, Indus Valley civilisation, Chinese civilisation, Egyptian civilisation, even some Latin American civilisation were far more advanced,prosperous and civilised then any European civilisation that you can think of .. and Europeans are the one that went to these great dynasties/empires for business and then eventually colonised them 😀 it’s very simple why they can’t say no to migrants
7:24 and yes it’s much more complicated then you can think about 😮💨 another example of that - only the British empire stole roughly 45-50 trillion dollars worth of wealth in just 250 years of exploitation of Mughal empire. to put that into prospective it’s roughly 15 times the size of British economy and doesn’t even include all the unfair treaty that prevented these colonies from any prosperity 😮💨 Mughal empires gdp went from 27% of the entire planet’s gdp in 1700s to only 2-3% of global gdp when British left South Asia 😮💨 so yeah it’s a lot more then you can think about
Lol. Another escapee from the men in white shirt.
@@david__026 but had nothing to do with Europe being the centre of the industrial revolution to change GDP ratios?
1800 to 1860 the Uk produced third of the worlds production of pig iron, how much profit did the working class share in?
yes, l'm aware empire officials and businessmen destroyed the local iron industry forcing to buy from Uk
at the same time in the Uk factories were sabotaging by other factories for profit
unregulated capitalism exploits everyone
early 20th century having a huge merchant navy of thousands of vessels
adding 250 years of inflation to crops harvested 250 years ago to gain figures to calculate what was 'stolen'
todays value of those crops is zero
one question, if they were so far more advanced, prosperous civilized and developed, how was it even possible for the supposedly underdeveloped primitive Europeans to conquer them?!
Also your claim that Europe is lacking almost all resources is literally nonsense, Central European countries like Germany, Denmark, Poland, Czech, Hungary, Slovakia,Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, even Ukraine before being torn through the war, as well as France and Sweden are capable to become fully self-sufficient (also Just so you know: many of these countries didn’t even have participated in the colonization of Africa or other countries, the slaves for example are actually the first group of people other Europeans have enslaved centuries bevor a European have made in to the african continent. Which is also the origin of the word slave, The Romans saw the Slavs as nothing more than a people of serfs and servants, which meant that for the Romans every member of the Slavic tribes was automatically their property and born to serve them, which is why for the Romans at some point every serf and servant, even if they did not belong to the Slavic population group, have become a Slave
VERY well said!
Hopefully, all the complainers will let THAT sink in: which I seriously doubt!
The "indigenous" of North America, New Zealand and Australia were oppressed and have mostly been eradicated: those remaining, have nothing to say in their own continent. The South Africans have long endured "apartheid" and are still dealing with the consequences of that oppression and the land grab.
The least Europe could (wisely) do, is to support the economies in the (refugee-) countries and create development possibilities: when there's a serious lack of economic opportunities, people will fight or flee to another safe country!
Leaving your home country, family and friends behind is never your first option (unless you're left no other choice)!
Maybe Europeans should be more reasonable and understanding.
It's a pity, that some European countries that never colonised other continents, now also have to deal with the influx of migrants.
But nevertheless: just let the "far right" take hold over Europe and we'll then see, what becomes of this smart old "wealthy" continent.😏